“The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...

Im_convincedmjaliveIm_convincedmjalive Posts: 1,409
edited July 2010 in References & Similarities
I first have to say I will need people's input and help.
I am not a bible scholar but, I do follow the "holy spirit" and right now I am being lead...

Please add your findings.
Thank you.
Peace

A closer LOOK At The ARK and 777 "Warning"
Taken from TIAI Revealed, Part 8: The End Is Near (R43 - R48)

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This is a subject not being addressed yet. I feel it is the most misunderstood aspect and the most Important warning to us in This "hoax" and "wake up" Call.

R47. Ark of the Covenant
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“The truth will prevail!” For those who are not prejudice, and are willing to examine the evidence carefully, the true Ark will stand out in striking contrast to any and all fake arks. In fact, did you know that the number seven is one of the main keys to unlock the mystery of the true Ark? Did you know that seven will be God’s most important number in the final battle between good and evil?

Almost everyone knows that the Ark of the Covenant was designed to contain the Ten Commandments—which are based on the two main concepts of love for God, and love for mankind (see Matthew 22:36-40); it’s all for love. If everyone in the world was following the Ten Commandments right now, then we wouldn’t need to heal the world—because the world would not be sick!!!

777 and The Ark.
Seven Trumpets Warning...

Joshua 6:4-20 (Amplified Bible)

4And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams' horns; and on the seventh day you shall march around the enclosure seven times, and the priests shall blow the trumpets.

5When they make a long blast with the ram's horn and you hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the enclosure shall fall down in its place and the people shall go up [over it], every man straight before him.

6So Joshua son of Nun called the priests and said to them, Take up the ark of the covenant and let seven priests bear seven trumpets of rams' horns before the ark of the Lord.

7He said to the people, Go on! March around the enclosure, and let the armed men pass on before the ark of the Lord.

8When Joshua had spoken to the people, the seven priests bearing the seven trumpets of rams' horns passed on before the Lord and blew the trumpets, and the ark of the covenant of the Lord followed them.

9The armed men went before the priests who blew the trumpets, and the rear guard came after the ark, the priests blowing the trumpets as they went.

10But Joshua commanded the people, You shall not shout or let your voice be heard, nor shall any word proceed out of your mouth until the day I tell you to shout. Then you shall shout!

11So he caused the ark of the Lord to go around the city once; and they came into the camp and lodged in the camp.

12Joshua rose early in the morning and the priests took up the ark of the Lord.

13And the seven priests bearing the seven trumpets of rams' horns before the ark of the Lord passed on, blowing the trumpets continually; and the armed men went before them and the rear guard came after the ark of the Lord, the priests blowing the trumpets as they went.

14On the second day they compassed the city enclosure once and returned to the camp. So they did for six days.

15On the seventh day they rose early at daybreak and marched around the city as usual, only on that day they compassed the city seven times.

16And the seventh time, when the priests had blown the trumpets, Joshua said to the people, Shout! For the Lord has given you the city.

17And the city and all that is in it shall be devoted to the Lord [for destruction]; only Rahab the harlot and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she hid the messengers whom we sent.

18But you, keep yourselves from the accursed and devoted things, lest when you have devoted it [to destruction], you take of the accursed thing, and so make the camp of Israel accursed and trouble it.

19But all the silver and gold and vessels of bronze and iron are consecrated to the Lord; they shall come into the treasury of the Lord.

20So the people shouted, and the trumpets were blown. When the people heard the sound of the trumpet, they raised a great shout, and [Jericho's] wall fell down in its place, so that the [Israelites] went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
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  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    In the Quran it is mentionned:
    [2:248] Their prophet said to them, "The sign of his kingship is that the Ark of the Covenant will be restored to you, bringing assurances from your Lord, and relics left by the people of Moses and the people of Aaron. It will be carried by the angels. This should be a convincing sign for you, if you are really believers."

    It is in reference of the story of Saul, him being chosen by God to be King and this same history is narrated in the Bible's Book of I Samuel, Ch. 9 and 10.
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    TS said in the update that muslims were also waiting for the Ark to be discovered by "Mahdi", I just wanted to say that "Mahdi" is not mentionned in the Quran so I take this information with grand reserve.

    "On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant, which he said had been kept safe and secure in a church in Axum, Ethiopia. The following day, on 26 June 2009, the patriarch announced that he would not unveil the Ark after all, but that instead he could attest to its current status."
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    I don't understand. If it has really been discovered why decide to keep it secret after having thrown the information that an announcement would be made about it ? And the date of 25 June 2009 is very intriguing. What a "coincidence" !

    When you begin to search for the Ark you realize that it can be everywhere in the world, so many theories are on the internet that I really don't know what to think about it anymore.

    TS also said "When the time is right, there will be further information about the Ark of the Covenant." I'm impatient to know more about it, this subject is very interesting and TS seems to know more.
  • Quoting TS, I know it was mentioned before that it isn't necessary to quote TS but, I am for the simple reason below.

    The first words are "Almost everyone knows" and I think that it is becoming OBVIOUS that almost everyone should KNOW. From what I am seeing in this "hoax" Love has been the ONE thing being forgotten.

    "Almost everyone knows that the Ark of the Covenant was designed to contain the Ten Commandments—which are based on the two main concepts of love for God, and love for mankind (see Matthew 22:36-40); it’s all for love. If everyone in the world was following the Ten Commandments right now, then we wouldn’t need to heal the world—because the world would not be sick!!!"

    It's ALL for L.O.V.E.
    Matthew 22:36-40 (Amplified Bible)

    36 Teacher, which kind of commandment is great and important (the principal kind) in the Law? [Some commandments are light--which are heavy?]

    37 And He replied to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind (intellect).

    38 This is the great (most important, principal) and first commandment.

    39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as [you do] yourself.

    40 These two commandments sum up and upon them depend all the Law and the Prophets.



    @Sarahli,

    Thank you very much for your input. I do have many theories and understanding on this subject. My point in this topic and asking for help was to get more people to think.

    The fact that TS knows what's up shouldn't stop any of us from digging.
    I shall return with more.

    I am lead by "the holy spirit"
    Peace


    I am back. Adding more into the knowledge base....lol

    There is ALOT to gain from this info. It leads to other theories. Connecting the DOTS.
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    From the wiki article...

    The Revelation at Sinai

    Moses with the Ten Commandments by Rembrandt (1659)According to the Bible, Moses remained 40 days and nights atop Mt. Sinai, also called Mount Horeb, receiving God's revelation. Moses then conveyed God's commandments to the Children of Israel in the third month after their Exodus from Egypt. Israel's receipt of the commandments occurred on the third day of preparations at the foot of the mount.

    According to Jewish tradition, God's revelation at Mt. Sinai is a critical moment in the confirmation of the covenant between God and the nation of Israel, and one of the highpoints of Jewish history. Historians are divided as to the location of Mt. Sinai and whether all the tribes that would later constitute David's kingdom were present; some question whether it actually occurred.

    The first revelation
    The Ten Commandments were not the only laws revealed to Moses at Sinai. Exodus 21-23 contain a miscellany of laws conventionally called the "Book of the Covenant". These two revelations are not named until Exodus 24, which refers to a "book of the covenant"(Exodus 24:7) and "stone tablets" (Exodus 24:12) as two parts of the revelation.

    The second revelation
    While receiving the Ten Commandments and the Book of the Covenant, the Children of Israel compelled Aaron to build a calf out of molten gold to serve as an altar for sacrifices to God. Upon seeing this, Moses flung the stone tablets in anger Exodus 32:192; consequently, Moses had to re-ascend Mt. Sinai to receive a new set of tablets from God. This event occasions a recapitulation of the account of God's inscribing two stone tablets Exodus 34:1-4, and conveying the Book of the Covenant Exodus 34:10-28, in a highly condensed form in Exodus 34, what historians call "the Small Covenant Code."

    The TEN COMMANDMENTS:

    According to Jewish tradition, Exodus 20:2-17 constitutes God's first recitation and inscription of the Ten Commandments on two tablets, which Moses presented to the Children of Israel who had left Egypt before placing in the Ark of the covenant. Deuteronomy 5:6-20 consists of God's re-telling of the Ten Commandments to the generation born during the wandering in the desert, and after the revelation at Sinai, prior to their entry to the land of Canaan. According to critical historians, each version was written by a different author (or set of authors) at different times during the history of the Kingdoms of Judah and Israel, or during the Babylonian Exile.


    Combined...
    The Ten Commandments Exodus 20:2–17 Deuteronomy 5:6–21
    2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
    3 Do not have any other gods before me.

    4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

    5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,

    6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

    7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

    8 Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

    9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.

    10 But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns.

    11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.

    12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

    13 You shall not murder.

    14 You shall not commit adultery.

    15 You shall not steal.

    16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

    17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
    6 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
    7 you shall have no other gods before me.

    8 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

    9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me,

    10 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

    11 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

    12 Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you.

    13 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.

    14 But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, or your son or your daughter, or your male or female slave, or your ox or your donkey, or any of your livestock, or the resident alien in your towns, so that your male and female slave may rest as well as you.

    15 Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day.

    16 Honor your father and your mother, as the Lord your God commanded you, so that your days may be long and that it may go well with you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

    17 You shall not murder.

    18 Neither shall you commit adultery.

    19 Neither shall you steal.

    20 Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbor.

    21 Neither shall you covet your neighbor’s wife. Neither shall you desire your neighbor’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
  • In the Quran it is mentionned:
    [2:248] Their prophet said to them, "The sign of his kingship is that the Ark of the Covenant will be restored to you, bringing assurances from your Lord, and relics left by the people of Moses and the people of Aaron. It will be carried by the angels. This should be a convincing sign for you, if you are really believers."

    It is in reference of the story of Saul, him being chosen by God to be King and this same history is narrated in the Bible's Book of I Samuel, Ch. 9 and 10.
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    TS said in the update that muslims were also waiting for the Ark to be discovered by "Mahdi", I just wanted to say that "Mahdi" is not mentionned in the Quran so I take this information with grand reserve.

    "On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant, which he said had been kept safe and secure in a church in Axum, Ethiopia. The following day, on 26 June 2009, the patriarch announced that he would not unveil the Ark after all, but that instead he could attest to its current status."
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    I don't understand. If it has really been discovered why decide to keep it secret after having thrown the information that an announcement would be made about it ? And the date of 25 June 2009 is very intriguing. What a "coincidence" !

    When you begin to search for the Ark you realize that it can be everywhere in the world, so many theories are on the internet that I really don't know what to think about it anymore.

    TS also said "When the time is right, there will be further information about the Ark of the Covenant." I'm impatient to know more about it, this subject is very interesting and TS seems to know more.

    Here is my thoughts and theories on the unveiling (hype) of THE ARK...
    News articles to the world.


    It is called deception... the evil one (devil, satan) who roams this earth to deceive and destroy and FOOL God's people, leading them astray and away from God (if he can) and even just people in general into believing that the ARK a man made article, (bobble) would give them the info they need.
    Which is the devil's Job, lol

    When in fact I believe the "true ARK" is as written below. (See Revelation reference). It is not in some false IDOL box but in the heavens with God himself and in his word.

    According to the Book of Revelation, the Ark is in the Temple of God in Heaven in vision: "Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the Ark of his Covenant" (Rev. 11:19 NIV).

    My theory is this that on June 25 2009 The Church was going to unviel a GREAT DECEPTION upon the world to deceive them into thinking they had to worship a golden box..lol

    When ArchAngel Michael "died" on the same day, he is a "positive light" counteracting the "negative" that was about to deceive. When Michael "died" on the same day, No one paid attention to the false Idol and was consumed by The ArchAngel Michael, who is in MY opinion the Seventh Angel warning us of the end times.

    He counteracted falseness with truth and opened up the seventh seals of knowledge.

    Revelation 5:1 (Amplified Bible)
    Revelation 5
    1 AND I saw lying on the open hand of Him Who was seated on the throne a scroll (book) written within and on the back, closed and sealed with seven seals;


    Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
    Revelation 11
    1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.

    2 But leave out of your measuring the court outside the sanctuary of God; omit that, for it is given over to the Gentiles (the nations), and they will trample the holy city underfoot for 42 months (three and one-half years).

    3 And I will grant the power of prophecy to My two witnesses for 1,260 (42 months; three and one-half years), dressed in sackcloth.

    4 These [witnesses] are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth.

    5 And if anyone attempts to injure them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their enemies; if anyone should attempt to harm them, thus he is doomed to be slain. [II Kings 1:10; Jer. 5:14.]

    6 These [two witnesses] have power to shut up the sky, so that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying (their prediction of events relating to Christ's kingdom and its speedy triumph); and they also have power to turn the waters into blood and to smite and scourge the earth with all manner of plagues as often as they choose.

    7 But when they have finished their testimony and their evidence is all in, the beast (monster) that comes up out of the Abyss (bottomless pit) will wage war on them, and conquer them and kill them.

    8 And their dead bodies [will lie exposed] in the open street [(a public square) of the great city which is in a spiritual sense called [by the mystical and allegorical names of] Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

    9 For three and a half days men from the races and tribes and languages and nations will gaze at their dead bodies and will not allow them to be put in a tomb.

    10 And those who dwell on the earth will gloat and exult over them and rejoice exceedingly, taking their ease and sending presents [in congratulation] to one another, because these two prophets had been such a vexation and trouble and torment to all the dwellers on the earth.

    11 But after three and a half days, by God's gift the breath of life again entered into them, and they rose up on their feet, and great dread and terror fell on those who watched them.

    12 Then [the two witnesses] heard a strong voice from heaven calling to them, Come up here! And before the very eyes of their enemies they ascended into heaven in a cloud. [II Kings 2:11.]

    13 And at that [very] hour there was a tremendous earthquake and one tenth of the city was destroyed (fell); seven thousand people perished in the earthquake, and those who remained were filled with dread and terror and were awe-struck, and they glorified the God of heaven.

    14 The second woe (calamity) has passed; now the third woe is speedily to come.

    15 The seventh angel then blew [his] trumpet, and there were mighty voices in heaven, shouting, The dominion (kingdom, sovereignty, rule) of the world has now come into the possession and become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ (the Messiah), and He shall reign forever and ever (for the eternities of the eternities)!

    16 Then the twenty-four elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin], who sit on their thrones before God, prostrated themselves before Him and worshiped,

    17 Exclaiming, To You we give thanks, Lord God Omnipotent, [the One] Who is and [ever] was, for assuming the high sovereignty and the great power that are Yours and for beginning to reign.

    18 And the heathen (the nations) raged, but Your wrath (retribution, indignation) came, the time when the dead will be judged and Your servants the prophets and saints rewarded--and those who revere (fear) Your name, both low and high and small and great--and [the time] for destroying the corrupters of the earth.

    19 Then the sanctuary of God in heaven was thrown open, and the ark of His covenant was seen standing inside in His sanctuary; and there were flashes of lightning, loud rumblings (blasts, mutterings), peals of thunder, an earthquake, and a terrific hailstorm. [I Kings 8:1-6.]


    The Lion of Judah represents Jesus.
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    Revelation 5:5 (Amplified Bible)
    5 Then one of the elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin] said to me, Stop weeping! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root (Source) of David, has won (has overcome and conquered)! He can open the scroll and break its seven seals!

    Peace

    P.S. Anyone can still add to this any knowledge they know. I am NOT the wisest One here, or religious. lol
    I just think and interpret this info and connect DOTS and I am being lead by the holy spirit to see truth and understanding.
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    The Book of Genesis, chapters 6-9, tells how God sends a great flood to destroy the earth because of man's wickedness and because the earth is corrupt.



    Peace
  • I have no religious opinion one way or the other when it comes to interpreting the Revelations. I come into this with no objective or agenda, I am just providing info, after which everyone is entitled to decide whether to believe or not. And everyone is entitled to interpret as they will. That is what free will is all about.

    I am not leaning one way or another with a pre-conceived "knowing". Of whom is The lamb of today (the One who is worthy to open the seven seals) and of whom is Archangel Michael (The seventh angel blowing his trumpet of warnings and pouring out his bowel upon the earth)? My theories are above.
    I am just learning this as I go, studying.


    Peace

    Revelation 5 (Amplified Bible)

    Revelation 5
    1 AND I saw lying on the open hand of Him Who was seated on the throne a scroll (book) written within and on the back, closed and sealed with seven seals;

    2 And I saw a strong angel announcing in a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the scroll? And [who is entitled and deserves and is morally fit] to break its seals?

    3 And no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth [in the realm of the dead, Hades] was able to open the scroll or to take a [single] look at its contents.

    4 And I wept audibly and bitterly because no one was found fit to open the scroll or to inspect it.

    5 Then one of the elders of the heavenly Sanhedrin] said to me, Stop weeping! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root (Source) of David, has won (has overcome and conquered)! He can open the scroll and break its seven seals!

    6 And there between the throne and the four living creatures (beings) and among the elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin] I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God the sevenfold Holy Spirit] Who have been sent [on duty far and wide] into all the earth.

    7 He then went and took the scroll from the right hand of Him Who sat on the throne.

    8 And when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin] prostrated themselves before the Lamb. Each was holding a harp (lute or guitar), and they had golden bowls full of incense (fragrant spices and gums for burning), which are the prayers of God's people (the saints).

    9 And [now] they sing a new song, saying, You are worthy to take the scroll and to break the seals that are on it, for You were slain (sacrificed), and with Your blood You purchased men unto God from every tribe and language and people and nation.

    10 And You have made them a kingdom (royal race) and priests to our God, and they shall reign [as kings] over the earth!

    11 Then I looked, and I heard the voices of many angels on every side of the throne and of the living creatures and the elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin], and they numbered ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands of thousands,

    12 Saying in a loud voice, Deserving is the Lamb, Who was sacrificed, to receive all the power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and majesty (glory, splendor) and blessing!

    13 And I heard every created thing in heaven and on earth and under the earth [in Hades, the place of departed spirits] and on the sea and all that is in it, crying out together, To Him Who is seated on the throne and to the Lamb be ascribed the blessing and the honor and the majesty (glory, splendor) and the power (might and dominion) forever and ever (through the eternities of the eternities)!

    14 Then the four living creatures (beings) said, Amen (so be it)! And the elders of the heavenly Sanhedrin] prostrated themselves and worshiped Him Who lives forever and ever.

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    The Seven Spirits of God
    The Seven Spirits of God are mentioned four times in the Book of Revelation:

    Rev 1:4 - John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

    Rev 3:1 - And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

    Rev 4:5 - And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

    Rev 5:6 - And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

    Sevenfold Ministry of the Spirit
    A common teaching on the seven Spirits claim that Book of Isaiah 11:2 somehow supports the symbolic interpretation of the seven Spirits. Charles Caldwell Ryrie writes in his commentary on Revelation, "The "seven Spirits" likely represent the sevenfold ministry of the Spirit as depicted in Isaiah 11:2." (Revelation - Everyman's Bible Commentary, p. 14)

    Isaiah 11:2 reads, "The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord."

    Wikisource has original text related to this article:
    Isaiah (KJV)
    Wikisource has original text related to this article:
    Revelation (KJV)
    1 — the Spirit of the Lord;
    2 — the Spirit of wisdom;
    3 — the Spirit of understanding;
    4 — the Spirit of counsel;
    5 — the Spirit of might;
    6 — the Spirit of knowledge;
    7 — and the Spirit of the fear of the LORD.
    "There you have the one Spirit in the seven-fold plenitude of His power." (Revelation, by Harry A. Ironside, p. 15-16)

    However, what is written above is not what is written in the text of Scripture (Proverbs 30:5-6). First of all, there are not even seven "Spirits" mentioned in Isaiah 11:2 as Ironside expounds. The passage begins with "The Spirit of the Lord." Then, describing this Spirit He declares, "the Spirit of wisdom and understanding," and the remaining. It does not say, as Ironside explains, "the Spirit of wisdom and the Spirit of understanding." Ironside modifies the entire passage putting in "Spirits" where there are none. The latter 6 describe the first. Therefore, even if we were to follow his scheme there would only be six (unless the Septuagint was followed, which adds an extra "Spirit" ["the spirit of the fear of God"] and adds an extra "and godliness"). But, in reality, the passage only has 3 (or 4 when including the LXX additions, which are part of what is known as the deuterocanonicals for the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches, and the Apocrypha for Protestants).

    The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him,

    1. the Spirit of wisdom and understanding
    2. the Spirit of counsel and might
    3. the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord

    Seven Angels
    Revelations 1:4-5 suggests the exalted state of the seven Spirits which are before God's Throne. In the two verses, John sends greeting of grace from God, from the seven who are before God's throne, and from Jesus Christ in Heaven to the seven churches in Asia.

    In other places of the Bible, there are also references to a group of seven spiritual beings, always said to be standing in the Presence of God in Heaven. Revelations 8:2 states that there are seven angels who stand before God.

    Also, Revelations 15 states that there are seven angels who come out from the Temple in Heaven to pour out God's wrath upon the world.

    In Luke 1:19, Gabriel stated to the priest Zachariah that he is an angel who stands in the Presence of God; this identifies Gabriel as one of the seven Spirits of God.

    The phrase "seven Spirits of God", if understood as seven angels, would convey the meaning "seven spiritual beings (spirits) of (closest to, belonging to) God's Presence". The same meaning is conveyed in the name "Israel" which means "Prince of God", meaning a prince belonging to God's court (a prince of God), not a prince over God.

    Seven Anointed Men
    Since there is only one Holy Spirit, the "seven spirits of God" (Rev 5:6) have been understood by some to mean the Holy Spirit anointing on seven men who have been used by God to direct the Church throughout its history. [1] This understanding is supported by the reference to the "seven spirits" as "seven lamps" (Rev 4:5 - and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.). The ministry of John the Baptist was also likened to a lamp (John 5:35 NKJV - John was a lamp that burned and gave light, and you chose for a time to enjoy his light.)

    William Branham identified these seven men as the messengers ("angels") to the seven churches in Revelation chapters 2 and 2. He named them as: Paul, Irenaeus, Martin of Tours, Columba, Martin Luther, John Wesley, and the final messenger as "Elijah". Those who follow Branham's teachings, believe that in fact he was the seventh messenger

    Other Interpretations
    The seven Spirits might also correspond to the seven Virtues (Dunamis), or the seven Potencies of God: Courage, Fortitude, Temperance, Justice, Hope, Faith, Charity. In the New Testament, the term "Dunamis" (translated as Virtues) suggests a class of exalted spiritual beings; the same perhaps parallel to the "chief Princes" (Sar rishown) in the Old Testament, of which Michael is stated to be one (Daniel 10:13).


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  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    I agree with you that it is an interesting coincidence that they would announce the revealing of the ark of covanent in Ethiopia, on the day that Michael supposedly died, and then change their minds. A revealing of the start of the hoax actually!! It has certainly been true with this whole MJ investigation that whatever aspect you look deeper into, it only raises more questions than when you started. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchto ... 1/cherubim<!-- m --> This discusses JW views on Jesus and Satan being the two cheribim that are on the Ark of the Covenant.http://housebuiltupontherockjesuschrist ... aphim.aspx<!-- m --> This is a thorough discussion on why Jesus is Michael the Archangel (not JW), which I recommend reading!

    Here are the verses that talk about Satan being the cheribim that covers ( as in covers the ark). Ezekiel 28:14, 16:

    "Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."

    "By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire."

    There are so many claims on where the ark is, if you've checked out sites. I lean towards Ethiopia because it is main African country with Hebrew Israelites in it, and in the book of Maccabees it says Jeremiah hid the ark in a cave after the temple was destroyed. Anyways, if Satan fell from his high position, then perhaps it has to do with why the ark lost its importance after the destruction of Solomon's temple. The temple and the ark never regained their prominence as to being the place where God resided. I believe that's because it was only a picture to start with. The whole Bible is one big story, and complex series of pictures, illustration, parables for all mankind, in layers upon layers of truths and mysteries. You mentioned already, that in the New Testament the ark is only written of as residing in heaven. The Bible says God created all things, and says God created evil. I believe God created Satan for the role of adversary, villian if you will. After the violent end of the story, all will be restored, at the consumation of all things.

    On another note, you mentioned the Lion of Judah, and Judah is one of the 12 tribes of Israel, but the specific brother with the lineage to Jesus. Here's Michael with the 777 shirt, the crown and lion (of Judah?).
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    @Im_convincedmjalive

    I know we should dig deeper by ourselves but I would like to dig deeper in what TS has found also <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> . I hope he'll share his findings so that we can study them too like I study what you post here <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    I totally agree with this: if people followed the 10 commandements this world would be a much much better place.

    I love your theory about deception. It makes sense because on the 26th everybody was talking about Michael's "death" and the "false" Ark would not have got the attention required.

    God bless you.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    You know like the Quran the Bible may be coded mathematically... we should maybe search in this direction...
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    The Bible has been examined thoroughly by many Jewish scolars and others, for its number codes, and thus hidden messages by the positioning of the Hebrew letters in the original text, which with the advent of the computer and special software for codes, has made hunting for messages relatively easy--and almost any message can be found. Here is one site trying to debunk the theory. <!-- m -->http://www.nmsr.org/biblecod.htm<!-- m --> I've read the book "Signature of God" by Grant Jeffrey, years ago and was amazed, but there are those who see another side. <!-- m -->http://www.ingermanson.com/codes/books/jeffrey.php<!-- m -->
    On the other hand, if scientists and mathematicians were to look at many of the numerology threads we have going here, they might annalyze them to shreds as well. I always think truth is somewhere in the middle. We need the checks and balances that other critiques can bring to our excited minds. I think that on this site, we have open discussion, but with thankfully for the most part polite critisism, that helps to balance us.
  • I agree with you that it is an interesting coincidence that they would announce the revealing of the ark of covanent in Ethiopia, on the day that Michael supposedly died, and then change their minds. A revealing of the start of the hoax actually!! It has certainly been true with this whole MJ investigation that whatever aspect you look deeper into, it only raises more questions than when you started. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchto ... 1/cherubim<!-- m --> This discusses JW views on Jesus and Satan being the two cheribim that are on the Ark of the Covenant.http://housebuiltupontherockjesuschrist ... aphim.aspx<!-- m --> This is a thorough discussion on why Jesus is Michael the Archangel (not JW), which I recommend reading!

    Here are the verses that talk about Satan being the cheribim that covers ( as in covers the ark). Ezekiel 28:14, 16:

    "Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."

    "By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire."

    There are so many claims on where the ark is, if you've checked out sites. I lean towards Ethiopia because it is main African country with Hebrew Israelites in it, and in the book of Maccabees it says Jeremiah hid the ark in a cave after the temple was destroyed. Anyways, if Satan fell from his high position, then perhaps it has to do with why the ark lost its importance after the destruction of Solomon's temple. The temple and the ark never regained their prominence as to being the place where God resided. I believe that's because it was only a picture to start with. The whole Bible is one big story, and complex series of pictures, illustration, parables for all mankind, in layers upon layers of truths and mysteries. You mentioned already, that in the New Testament the ark is only written of as residing in heaven. The Bible says God created all things, and says God created evil. I believe God created Satan for the role of adversary, villian if you will. After the violent end of the story, all will be restored, at the consumation of all things.

    On another note, you mentioned the Lion of Judah, and Judah is one of the 12 tribes of Israel, but the specific brother with the lineage to Jesus. Here's Michael with the 777 shirt, the crown and lion (of Judah?).

    @MJonmind

    Thank you for this info. I would not have known where to look. I will say I agree with the theory that the "two cherubim" are Archangel Michael and Satan/Lucifer (when he/it was in Angelic form before falling from heaven to Earth) Satan was booted out, lol

    I am going to go one step further here with my theory and adding onto what you stated about Satan being designed to play the role of villian/adversary, I absolutely agree and I will say why I do believe that, because I am going to reveal a "Vision" I had back in 1998...

    I was living in Waikiki, Hawaii at the time and I began to watch programs on television at that time that dealt with Revelations and End Times. I don't get "Visions" often. But, when I do they are very reveiling and make very powerful statements.

    My conscious mind said "WTF is this Revelations crap all about?" I got scared, so my mind shut down and shut it out. My subconscious and my "Visions" are triggered by subliminal messages I see in things, so a "Vision" was triggered and I saw:

    That this is a GRAND design planned by God, everyone and everything belong to him, including Satan. My "Vision" came to me in a non-threatening way and made it a silly game so that I could easily accept and see that this is supposed to happen like this and everything is gonna be aight!

    I saw God and Satan playing a game of chess: God is in control of his chess pieces ( his chosen people) and Satan is in control of his chess pieces ( his children of the world ) this is the Ultimate chess game designed by GOD and in the end he will win, no matter what happens in between.

    The fact is God needs a worthy opponent to also keep him on his toes but in the end he controls the game no matter what. He owns us and he owns Satan.

    Also I want to say that when I made this topic, I already knew "who" would respond.

    And both of you did.

    Peace
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    P.S. Since the "hoax" has dealt with numerology and there has been ample proof to me that indeed it plays a HUGE role in our lifes, out of curiousity I did a reading on my own name today and my birthdate...I am not worried about my name and identity being anonymous, I am also posting this info because I found it absolutely fasinating the words surrounding my name, and birthdate, you might say I was blown away, <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> lol

    also I posted this to some what give more validity to my "Visions" and the belief I hold in them and being lead by the "holy spirit"
    Numerology for Robin Van Noy for 7/17/2010

    In Your Public Life...
    Words that embody things that may be a part of you are "Circus, Copper, Crown, Hermit, Hunger, Ice, Invader, Nation, Number, Obelisk, Pulse, Sacrifice, Sound, Stone".

    Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Africa, Agility, Ambition, Aurora, Author, Authority, Barbarism, Beast, Beauty, Bitter, Boat, Change, Chariot, Cocktail, Compulsion, Conversation, Craving, Cross, Dazzle, Death, Defiance, Energy, Fire, Forest, Gold, Intimidation, Iridium, Jackal, Judge, Jury, Luck, Melody, Messiah, Mink, Monkey, Occult, Ocean, Omen, Opium, Palace, Pinnacle, Prayer, Radio, Redemption, Rich, Rock, Seer, Sentiment, Shepherd, Shout, Spring, Sterility, Tantra, Tarot, Tide, Time, Vassal, Violet, Vixen, Vulture, Warlock, Weapon, Wisdom".


    In Your Spiritual Life...
    Words that embody things that may be a part of you are "Arrow, Commerce, Dance, Doctor, Genius, Hand, Humor, Job, Madness, Red, Skull, Spiral, Tactics, Thorn, Voyage".
    Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Ancestor, Blues, Butcher, Council, Dragon, Engineer, Entertainment, Finger, Glory, Grotto, Halloween, Island, Joker, Martyr, Mouth, Mustang, Neptune, Player, Power, Rook, Scream, Shackle, Slave, Stars, Theater, Tiger, Unholy, Virtue".

    Explanation
    The reading above combines your public name, nickname, birth name, and birthdate with today's date in order to determine which words equate to your life today. The different ways in which words can be associated with you are:
    Identity: These are words whose numeric value is an exact match. For example, the numeric value of "Adolf Hitler" is 110, which is the same numeric value as "Osama Bin Laden" (as bad luck would have it, Adolf and Osama share the same Tarot card and birth path as well). Identities are common in some fundamental way, although the commonality may be very obscure. You might think of words as the siblings of their identities.

    Product: These are words whose numeric value is a superset of another. For example, the numeric value of "Fulfillment" is 130, which is a superset of the numeric value of "Peace", which is 30. Products are things that you can create from their components.

    Component: These are words whose numeric value is a subset of another. For example, the numeric value of "Sex" is 48, which is a subset of the numeric value of "Sharon Stone", which is 148. Components are things that make up a product.

    Mirror: These are words whose numeric value is a digit by digit reflection. For example, the numeric value of "Rose" is 57, whereas the numeric value of "Thorn" is 75. Mirrors are things that belong together, either as compliments or as opposites. Like a thorn to a rose, mirrors are often unrelated in what they offer, but inextricably connected nonetheless. Words are sometimes thought of as the allies or enemies of their mirrors.

    Cause: These are words whose value matches the secondary numeric value of another. For example, the date "9-11-2001" has a numeric value of 14 (9+1+1+2+0+0+1=14), the word "Warning" has a numeric value of 86, and the word "Martyr" has a numeric value of 95. If you add up the digits of "Warning" (8+6=14) and "Martyr" (9+5=14), the results equal the value of "9-11-2001". Causes are things that precede their effects.

    Effect: These are words whose secondary numeric value matches the value of another. For example, the numeric value of "Winter" is 89, and the numeric value of "Ice" is 17. If you add up the digits of "Winter" (8+9=17), the result equals the value of "Ice" (17). Effects are things that follow their cause.

    Distant: These are words whose secondary numeric values are an exact match. For example, the numeric value of "Rome" is 51, "War" is 42, and "Conquest" is 114. If you add up the digits (5+1=6, 4+2=6, 1+1+4=6), each one equals 6. Distants are things that are loosely related, like cousins within a family.

    Italics: The words in your reading that appear in italics are more strongly associated with you than the other words in the same category. For example, if your reading included the line "Distant: trance, struggle, victory", then all three of these words would be loosely related to you, but the word struggle would be the most significant among them.

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    Maybe this is why The word Monkey surrounds my name? lol
    I wrote this.
    a new discovery.. i like it, xoxo <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->Monday, June 7, 2010 2:52 AM
    From: "Robin <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> xoxo" <mistresscherrymoon@yahoo.com>Add sender to ContactsTo: DMovieguy237


    [youtube:1xn5o8xo]


    I just discovered something I had NO idea about. This is awesome.


    This was a email to Dmovie27 when I was working with him on theories.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    @ Im_convincedmjalive
    Indeed God owns everything and will win in the end no matter what happens in between. I love the chess game vision. Satan has a limited power here on earth (God protects true believers) and for a limited period of time and only under God's will. God is all Powerful.

    The numerology description is very interesting and the numeric values of words too. How did you made the reading ? I mean is it on the internet ?
    Just another question. How did you know who was going to answer your topic ? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->

    @MJonmind
    Regarding the Bible code, just wanted to say that I don't need it to believe in God and His Books. I just am skeptic on people who try by every means to discredit God's religion. In general those who dismiss the fact that codes can be found in the Scriptures are non-believers. I am still digging deeper into it to found out more. As you say there are two sides in the story but I've studied enough the Quran code to know that it's a reality so why not for the Bible.

    Regarding the Ark I thought about something and the announcement made by the church of Ethiopia. Michael announced his "This Is It" concerts in London. Can London be a key ? Just throwing ideas out there.

    God bless you.
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    1 THEN I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, robed in a cloud, with a [halo like a] rainbow over his head; his face was like the sun, and his feet (legs) were like columns of fire.

    Based on the first description and then watching this video, hmm makes ya think? That is Mike under the rainbow holding it up?
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    The Seventh Angel...
    Opening the seven seals

    Revelation 10 (Amplified Bible)

    Revelation 10
    1 THEN I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, robed in a cloud, with a [halo like a] rainbow over his head; his face was like the sun, and his feet (legs) were like columns of fire.

    2 He had a little book (scroll) open in his hand. He set his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land,

    3 And he shouted with a loud voice like the roaring of a lion; and when he had shouted, the seven thunders gave voice and uttered their message in distinct words.

    4 And when the seven thunders had spoken (sounded), I was going to write [it down], but I heard a voice from heaven saying, Seal up what the seven thunders have said! Do not write it down!

    5 Then the [mighty] angel whom I had seen stationed on sea and land raised his right hand to heaven (the sky),

    6 And swore in the name of (by) Him Who lives forever and ever, Who created the heavens (sky) and all they contain, and the earth and all that it contains, and the sea and all that it contains. [He swore] that no more time should intervene and there should be no more waiting or delay,

    7 But that when the days come when the trumpet call of the seventh angel is about to be sounded, then God's mystery (His secret design, His hidden purpose), as He had announced the glad tidings to His servants the prophets, should be fulfilled (accomplished, completed).

    8 Then the voice that I heard from heaven spoke again to me, saying, Go and take the little book (scroll) which is open on the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the land.

    9 So I went up to the angel and asked him to give me the little book. And he said to me, Take it and eat it. It will embitter your stomach, though in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey.

    10 So I took the little book from the angel's hand and ate and swallowed it; it was as sweet as honey in my mouth, but once I had swallowed it, my stomach was embittered.

    11 Then they said to me, You are to make a fresh prophecy concerning many peoples and races and nations and languages and kings.


    Connecting DOTS.
    Peace
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    2 Peter 3 (Amplified Bible)

    2 Peter 3
    1 BELOVED, I am now writing you this second letter. In [both of] them I have stirred up your unsullied (sincere) mind by way of remembrance,

    2 That you should recall the predictions of the holy (consecrated, dedicated) prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior [given] through your apostles (His special messengers).

    3 To begin with, you must know and understand this, that scoffers (mockers) will come in the last days with scoffing, [people who] walk after their own fleshly desires

    4 And say, Where is the promise of His coming? For since the forefathers fell asleep, all things have continued exactly as they did from the beginning of creation.

    5 For they willfully overlook and forget this [fact], that the heavens [came into] existence long ago by the word of God, and the earth also which was formed out of water and by means of water,

    6 Through which the world that then [existed] was deluged with water and perished.

    7 But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been stored up (reserved) for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly people.

    8 Nevertheless, do not let this one fact escape you, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.

    9 The Lord does not delay and is not tardy or slow about what He promises, according to some people's conception of slowness, but He is long-suffering (extraordinarily patient) toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn to repentance.

    10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will vanish (pass away) with a thunderous crash, and the [material] elements [of the universe] will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.

    11 Since all these things are thus in the process of being dissolved, what kind of person ought [each of] you to be [in the meanwhile] in consecrated and holy behavior and devout and godly qualities,

    12 While you wait and earnestly long for (expect and hasten) the coming of the day of God by reason of which the flaming heavens will be dissolved, and the [material] elements [of the universe] will flare and melt with fire?

    13 But we look for new heavens and a new earth according to His promise, in which righteousness (uprightness, freedom from sin, and right standing with God) is to abide.

    14 So, beloved, since you are expecting these things, be eager to be found by Him [at His coming] without spot or blemish and at peace [in serene confidence, free from fears and agitating passions and moral conflicts].

    15 And consider that the long-suffering of our Lord [His slowness in avenging wrongs and judging the world] is salvation (that which is conducive to the soul's safety), even as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the spiritual insight given him,

    16 Speaking of this as he does in all of his letters. There are some things in those [epistles of Paul] that are difficult to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist and misconstrue to their own utter destruction, just as [they distort and misinterpret] the rest of the Scriptures.

    17 Let me warn you therefore, beloved, that knowing these things beforehand, you should be on your guard, lest you be carried away by the error of lawless and wicked [persons and] fall from your own [present] firm condition [your own steadfastness of mind].

    18 But grow in grace (undeserved favor, spiritual strength) and [recognition and knowledge and understanding of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (the Messiah). To Him [be] glory (honor, majesty, and splendor) both now and to the day of eternity. Amen (so be it)!

    Peace
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Michael is taking us by the hand through a wild and wacky land and story. What Michael is doing in his masterful hoax in all its intricasies, IMO in a tiny mini-way parallels what God is doing in the Universe and more specifically on planet earth and throughout history. Michael is the man behind the curtain, the Wizard of Oz as the characters in his story go along the yellow brick road. God is the "Old Man" (meant respectfully) behind the curtain of mystery of time as all His creatures, celestial or earthly carry out their stories and lives. They are overcoming hurtles and challenges on the yellow brick road of time with God fully in control and orchestrating everything including twists and turns, and all deceptions and evil. We are only beginning to understand the special calling God had on Michael's life from birth, and which will continue to unfold in the days, months, years ahead. I believe God, like Michael has a crazy sense of humor. Here is Michael singing "If'n I was God."

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    Here's the lyrics:

    If'n I was God
    Well, just for spite
    I wouldn’t set the sun at night
    ’Til everyone was treated right
    By everyone else they see

    If’n I was God
    I’d fix it so without explaining
    Folks would know
    They’d know what’s going on inside
    Of everyone else like me

    Nobody hurt nobody else
    Oh, no, I wouldn’t let it be
    Nobody have a need to pray
    Except for thanking me

    If n I was God
    I’d make us wise
    So everyone could realize
    That everywhere beneath the sun
    Everyone needs everyone

    And, God, that ain’t half
    What I would do
    If ’n I were you

    Oh, yeah
    If ’n I was God
    I’d make us wise
    Everybody touch everybody’s hand
    Oh, yeah
    Reach out and touch
    Somebody’s hand
    You got to love everybody, yeah
  • @ Im_convincedmjalive
    Indeed God owns everything and will win in the end no matter what happens in between. I love the chess game vision. Satan has a limited power here on earth (God protects true believers) and for a limited period of time and only under God's will. God is all Powerful.

    The numerology description is very interesting and the numeric values of words too. How did you made the reading ? I mean is it on the internet ?
    Just another question. How did you know who was going to answer your topic ? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->

    @MJonmind
    Regarding the Bible code, just wanted to say that I don't need it to believe in God and His Books. I just am skeptic on people who try by every means to discredit God's religion. In general those who dismiss the fact that codes can be found in the Scriptures are non-believers. I am still digging deeper into it to found out more. As you say there are two sides in the story but I've studied enough the Quran code to know that it's a reality so why not for the Bible.

    Regarding the Ark I thought about something and the announcement made by the church of Ethiopia. Michael announced his "This Is It" concerts in London. Can London be a key ? Just throwing ideas out there.

    God bless you.

    @Sarahli,

    There is the link to where I did the reading.
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    Roflmaoooo@The words for todays reading. There are words in this list and yesterdays that I would know how much they really apply to my current lifestyle.. lol

    Numerology for Robin Van Noy for 7/18/2010
    In Your Public Life...
    Words that embody things that may be a part of you are "Cage, Champagne, Gazelle, Language, Passage".

    Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Allure, Artist, Atlantis, Constellation, Decision, Dolphin, Freemason, Ghost, Gladiator, Heroin, Husband, Jungle, Justice, Knight, Knowledge, Leather, Playboy, Priest, Retreat, Romance, Rough, Society, Spite, Tornado, Travel, Truth, Tundra, Watcher, Wealth, Whore, Worm".


    In Your Spiritual Life...
    Words that embody the people or things that you interact with are "Amulet, Bullet, Cathedral, Despair, Failure, Fashion, Lover, Lust, Money, Pilot, Reason, River, Rocket, School, Slut, Sweet, World".

    Words that embody things that may be a part of you are "Anarchy, Courage, Dance, Duty, Fascism, Fury, Galaxy, Hand, Honor, Job, Lizard, Red, Robot, Secret, Shadow, Vatican, Vogue".

    Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Business, Comfort, Diplomat, Jealousy, Journey, Marathon, Obsession, Painting, Pestilence, Porcupine, Sister, Smooth, Spotlight, Stability, Thunder, Torture, University".


    Explanation
    The reading above combines your public name, nickname, birth name, and birthdate with today's date in order to determine which words equate to your life today. The different ways in which words can be associated with you are:
    Identity: These are words whose numeric value is an exact match. For example, the numeric value of "Adolf Hitler" is 110, which is the same numeric value as "Osama Bin Laden" (as bad luck would have it, Adolf and Osama share the same Tarot card and birth path as well). Identities are common in some fundamental way, although the commonality may be very obscure. You might think of words as the siblings of their identities.

    Product: These are words whose numeric value is a superset of another. For example, the numeric value of "Fulfillment" is 130, which is a superset of the numeric value of "Peace", which is 30. Products are things that you can create from their components.

    Component: These are words whose numeric value is a subset of another. For example, the numeric value of "Sex" is 48, which is a subset of the numeric value of "Sharon Stone", which is 148. Components are things that make up a product.

    Mirror: These are words whose numeric value is a digit by digit reflection. For example, the numeric value of "Rose" is 57, whereas the numeric value of "Thorn" is 75. Mirrors are things that belong together, either as compliments or as opposites. Like a thorn to a rose, mirrors are often unrelated in what they offer, but inextricably connected nonetheless. Words are sometimes thought of as the allies or enemies of their mirrors.

    Cause: These are words whose value matches the secondary numeric value of another. For example, the date "9-11-2001" has a numeric value of 14 (9+1+1+2+0+0+1=14), the word "Warning" has a numeric value of 86, and the word "Martyr" has a numeric value of 95. If you add up the digits of "Warning" (8+6=14) and "Martyr" (9+5=14), the results equal the value of "9-11-2001". Causes are things that precede their effects.

    Effect: These are words whose secondary numeric value matches the value of another. For example, the numeric value of "Winter" is 89, and the numeric value of "Ice" is 17. If you add up the digits of "Winter" (8+9=17), the result equals the value of "Ice" (17). Effects are things that follow their cause.

    Distant: These are words whose secondary numeric values are an exact match. For example, the numeric value of "Rome" is 51, "War" is 42, and "Conquest" is 114. If you add up the digits (5+1=6, 4+2=6, 1+1+4=6), each one equals 6. Distants are things that are loosely related, like cousins within a family.

    Italics: The words in your reading that appear in italics are more strongly associated with you than the other words in the same category. For example, if your reading included the line "Distant: trance, struggle, victory", then all three of these words would be loosely related to you, but the word struggle would be the most significant among them.



    As for the "knowing" who and "how":

    1 Corinthians 12 (Amplified Bible)
    1 Corinthians 12

    1 NOW ABOUT the spiritual gifts (the special endowments of supernatural energy), brethren, I do not want you to be misinformed.
    2 You know that when you were heathen, you were led off after idols that could not speak [habitually] as impulse directed and whenever the occasion might arise.

    3 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking under the power and influence of the [Holy] Spirit of God can [ever] say, Jesus be cursed! And no one can [really] say, Jesus is [my] Lord, except by and under the power and influence of the Holy Spirit.

    4 Now there are distinctive varieties and distributions of endowments (gifts, extraordinary powers distinguishing certain Christians, due to the power of divine grace operating in their souls by the Holy Spirit) and they vary, but the [Holy] Spirit remains the same.

    5 And there are distinctive varieties of service and ministration, but it is the same Lord [Who is served].

    6 And there are distinctive varieties of operation [of working to accomplish things], but it is the same God Who inspires and energizes them all in all.

    7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the [Holy] Spirit [the evidence, the spiritual illumination of the Spirit] for good and profit.

    8 To one is given in and through the [Holy] Spirit [the power to speak] a message of wisdom, and to another [the power to express] a word of knowledge and understanding according to the same [Holy] Spirit;

    9 To another [wonder-working] faith by the same [Holy] Spirit, to another the extraordinary powers of healing by the one Spirit;

    10 To another the working of miracles, to another prophetic insight (the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose); to another the ability to discern and distinguish between [the utterances of true] spirits [and false ones], to another various kinds of [unknown] tongues, to another the ability to interpret [such] tongues.

    11 All these [gifts, achievements, abilities] are inspired and brought to pass by one and the same [Holy] Spirit, Who apportions to each person individually [exactly] as He chooses.

    12 For just as the body is a unity and yet has many parts, and all the parts, though many, form [only] one body, so it is with Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).

    13 For by [means of the personal agency of] one [Holy] Spirit we were all, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free, baptized [and by baptism united together] into one body, and all made to drink of one [Holy] Spirit.

    14 For the body does not consist of one limb or organ but of many.

    15 If the foot should say, Because I am not the hand, I do not belong to the body, would it be therefore not [a part] of the body?

    16 If the ear should say, Because I am not the eye, I do not belong to the body, would it be therefore not [a part] of the body?

    17 If the whole body were an eye, where [would be the sense of] hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where [would be the sense of] smell?

    18 But as it is, God has placed and arranged the limbs and organs in the body, each [particular one] of them, just as He wished and saw fit and with the best adaptation.

    19 But if [the whole] were all a single organ, where would the body be?

    20 And now there are [certainly] many limbs and organs, but a single body.

    21 And the eye is not able to say to the hand, I have no need of you, nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

    22 But instead, there is [absolute] necessity for the parts of the body that are considered the more weak.

    23 And those [parts] of the body which we consider rather ignoble are [the very parts] which we invest with additional honor, and our unseemly parts and those unsuitable for exposure are treated with seemliness (modesty and decorum),

    24 Which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so adjusted (mingled, harmonized, and subtly proportioned the parts of) the whole body, giving the greater honor and richer endowment to the inferior parts which lack [apparent importance],

    25 So that there should be no division or discord or lack of adaptation [of the parts of the body to each other], but the members all alike should have a mutual interest in and care for one another.

    26 And if one member suffers, all the parts [share] the suffering; if one member is honored, all the members [share in] the enjoyment of it.

    27 Now you [collectively] are Christ's body and [individually] you are members of it, each part severally and distinct [each with his own place and function].

    28 So God has appointed some in the church [for His own use]: first apostles (special messengers); second prophets (inspired preachers and expounders); third teachers; then wonder-workers; then those with ability to heal the sick; helpers; administrators; [speakers in] different (unknown) tongues.

    29 Are all apostles (special messengers)? Are all prophets (inspired interpreters of the will and purposes of God)? Are all teachers? Do all have the power of performing miracles?

    30 Do all possess extraordinary powers of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?

    31 But earnestly desire and zealously cultivate the greatest and best gifts and graces (the higher gifts and the choicest graces). And yet I will show you a still more excellent way [one that is better by far and the highest of them all--love].

    And Thank you to both of you for helping in bringing forth truth, one step at a time.

    I would say if you feel London is important, investigate it.

    Peace
  • Michael is taking us by the hand through a wild and wacky land and story. What Michael is doing in his masterful hoax in all its intricasies, IMO in a tiny mini-way parallels what God is doing in the Universe and more specifically on planet earth and throughout history. Michael is the man behind the curtain, the Wizard of Oz as the characters in his story go along the yellow brick road. God is the "Old Man" (meant respectfully) behind the curtain of mystery of time as all His creatures, celestial or earthly carry out their stories and lives. They are overcoming hurtles and challenges on the yellow brick road of time with God fully in control and orchestrating everything including twists and turns, and all deceptions and evil. We are only beginning to understand the special calling God had on Michael's life from birth, and which will continue to unfold in the days, months, years ahead. I believe God, like Michael has a crazy sense of humor. Here is Michael singing "If'n I was God."
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    Here's the lyrics:

    If'n I was God
    Well, just for spite
    I wouldn’t set the sun at night
    ’Til everyone was treated right
    By everyone else they see

    If’n I was God
    I’d fix it so without explaining
    Folks would know
    They’d know what’s going on inside
    Of everyone else like me

    Nobody hurt nobody else
    Oh, no, I wouldn’t let it be
    Nobody have a need to pray
    Except for thanking me

    If n I was God
    I’d make us wise
    So everyone could realize
    That everywhere beneath the sun
    Everyone needs everyone

    And, God, that ain’t half
    What I would do
    If ’n I were you

    Oh, yeah
    If ’n I was God
    I’d make us wise
    Everybody touch everybody’s hand
    Oh, yeah
    Reach out and touch
    Somebody’s hand
    You got to love everybody, yeah

    "I believe God, like Michael has a crazy sense of humor. Here is Michael singing "If'n I was God."

    I absolutely agree 100% with this and the rest of your statement. Yesterday when I wrote my "vision" I didn't want to offend people so I left out the part where I saw God chuckling and having a good laugh playing chess with the devil, knowing in his mind he was gonna win but allowed satan to think he had the upper hand (only for a moment) like a tease.

    Peace
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  • This INFO deals with prophecy, I had NO clue at the time when I wrote this to Dmovie27 what would come of it, or how I knew it. My tweets are from my cherrymoon808 twitter account dated as such. I also have never watched V at all... (all the way through) I have only seen bits and pieces on the youtube.

    I didn't know at the time when I tweeted the Monte Cristo scenes that it is referenced in V.

    In a message dated 5/22/2010 11:56:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <!-- e -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8zVglXFO7A&NR=1<!-- m --> 4:52 PM Mar 21st via web

    the old man asks dude: have you named the bricks yet? lol I suppose that's when you know you've really lost it, lol. this shall pass 3:49 PM Mar 21st via web

    lol, old man says: forgive my intrusion, I have been digging for 5 years. He lol @ the irony of ending up in another cell. 3:47 PM Mar 21st via web

    this is what the Ghost of Jealousy looks like <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEnmzxH9NhM&NR=1<!-- m --> currently watching this movie 3:23 PM Mar 21st via web

    I absolutely love love love this movie, count of monte cristo! I saw it in 2001 <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzULuO1cBSc<!-- m --> 2:48 PM Mar 21st via web


    In a message dated 5/22/2010 10:16:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <!-- e -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasper<!-- m -->
    I will get into the ARK and 777, Archangel Michael.. opening the seals...concept to if ya want?
    Also Ruby is the color of a stone in the breast plate also so is <!-- m -->http://www.dihcro.com/sardius.html<!-- m -->

    Lion..
    Leo
    <!-- m -->http://www.catholic-saints.info/catholi ... symbol.htm<!-- m -->

    Scroll down on this link and the reference to revelations and the opening of the seals..


    BTW This is the email that caused him to crash the channel..lol

    Just looked this up, I REALLY got To get MY life together... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    Revelation 21 (Amplified Bible)
    Revelation 21
    1 THEN I saw a new sky (heaven) and a new earth, for the former sky and the former earth had passed away (vanished), and there no longer existed any sea.

    2 And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, all arrayed like a bride beautified and adorned for her husband;

    3 Then I heard a mighty voice from the throne and I perceived its distinct words, saying, See! The abode of God is with men, and He will live (encamp, tent) among them; and they shall be His people, and God shall personally be with them and be their God.

    4 God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall be no more, neither shall there be anguish (sorrow and mourning) nor grief nor pain any more, for the old conditions and the former order of things have passed away.

    5 And He Who is seated on the throne said, See! I make all things new. Also He said, Record this, for these sayings are faithful (accurate, incorruptible, and trustworthy) and true (genuine).

    6 And He [further] said to me, It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I [Myself] will give water without price from the fountain (springs) of the water of Life.

    7 He who is victorious shall inherit all these things, and I will be God to him and he shall be My son.

    8 But as for the cowards and the ignoble and the contemptible and the cravenly lacking in courage and the cowardly submissive, and as for the unbelieving and faithless, and as for the depraved and defiled with abominations, and as for murderers and the lewd and adulterous and the practicers of magic arts and the idolaters (those who give supreme devotion to anyone or anything other than God) and all liars (those who knowingly convey untruth by word or deed)--[all of these shall have] their part in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone. This is the second death.

    9 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls filled with the seven final plagues (afflictions, calamities) came and spoke to me. He said, Come with me! I will show you the bride, the Lamb's wife.

    10 Then in the Spirit He conveyed me away to a vast and lofty mountain and exhibited to me the holy (hallowed, consecrated) city of Jerusalem descending out of heaven from God,

    11 Clothed in God's glory [in all its splendor and radiance]. The luster of it resembled a rare and most precious jewel, like jasper, shining clear as crystal.

    12 It had a massive and high wall with twelve [large] gates, and at the gates [there were stationed] twelve angels, and [on the gates] the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were written:

    13 On the east side three gates, on the north side three gates, on the south side three gates, and on the west side three gates.

    14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundation [stones], and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

    15 And he who spoke to me had a golden measuring reed (rod) to measure the city and its gates and its wall.

    16 The city lies in a square, its length being the same as its width. And he measured the city with his reed--12,000 stadia (about 1,500 miles); its length and width and height are the same.

    17 He measured its wall also--144 cubits (about 72 yards) by a man's measure [of a cubit from his elbow to his third fingertip], which is [the measure] of the angel.

    18 The wall was built of jasper, while the city [itself was of] pure gold, clear and transparent like glass.

    19 The foundation [stones] of the wall of the city were ornamented with all of the precious stones. The first foundation [stone] was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony (or white agate), the fourth emerald,

    20 The fifth onyx, the sixth sardius, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst.

    21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each separate gate being built of one solid pearl. And the main street (the broadway) of the city was of gold as pure and translucent as glass.

    22 I saw no temple in the city, for the Lord God Omnipotent [Himself] and the Lamb [Himself] are its temple.

    23 And the city has no need of the sun nor of the moon to give light to it, for the splendor and radiance (glory) of God illuminate it, and the Lamb is its lamp.

    24 The nations shall walk by its light and the rulers and leaders of the earth shall bring into it their glory.

    25 And its gates shall never be closed by day, and there shall be no night there.

    26 They shall bring the glory (the splendor and majesty) and the honor of the nations into it.

    27 But nothing that defiles or profanes or is unwashed shall ever enter it, nor anyone who commits abominations (unclean, detestable, morally repugnant things) or practices falsehood, but only those whose names are recorded in the Lamb's Book of Life.




    Well, better not pressure them about it or they'll put MJ on it too, like they did the other list.

    Strange if TS believes Elvis is alive, why he's on it then.

    I've always loved John Candy and all his movies. I hope you don't mind. All these people have dreams about Michael and I'm so jealous. But <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> I DID have a dream about John Candy many years ago, and it stuck in my mind. I got it several months after he died. Okay, I was driving along in my car at night. For some reason I had a closed casket in the back that I was transporting. Then all of a sudden the casket started opening (I was freaked!) Up sits John Candy. Well we ended up having a long chat, driving along.The rest is so fuzzy I can't remember.

    Don't feel bad. I don't get Dreams about MJ. I do however get "Visions".

    These are NOT "Visions" with specific faces to them. I get the creepy scary "Visions". The magician side of this "hoax". Like opening portal holes with a swirling finger over the ground and releasing the demons (from HELL) to roam the land and disturb believers or non-believers testing them and their Faith.

    This is a "Vision" from 2 days ago. It woke me from my sleep. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
    Before The Hidden message TMZ article.
    Check out that thread and what was wrote and discovered.

    Peace
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    And I was referring to This Thread:
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    The words Warlock, Finger and Messiah surrounding my name.. hmm?

    Freaky
    Peace
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  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    United Kingdom

    In 2003, historical author Graham Phillips traced the route of the Ark through research using Biblical texts as being taken to Mount Sinai in the Valley of Edom by the Maccabees, along with other religious treasures. Phillips claims it remained there until the 1180s, when Ralph de Sudeley, the leader of the Templars who apparently found the Maccabean treasure at Jebel al-Madhbah, returned home to his estate at Herdewyke in Warwickshire, UK, taking the treasure with him.

    Ireland

    During the turn of the 20th century British Israelites carried out some excavations of the Hill of Tara in Ireland looking for the Ark of the Covenant – the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland campaigned successfully to have them stopped before they ruined the hill.

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  • United Kingdom

    In 2003, historical author Graham Phillips traced the route of the Ark through research using Biblical texts as being taken to Mount Sinai in the Valley of Edom by the Maccabees, along with other religious treasures. Phillips claims it remained there until the 1180s, when Ralph de Sudeley, the leader of the Templars who apparently found the Maccabean treasure at Jebel al-Madhbah, returned home to his estate at Herdewyke in Warwickshire, UK, taking the treasure with him.

    Ireland

    During the turn of the 20th century British Israelites carried out some excavations of the Hill of Tara in Ireland looking for the Ark of the Covenant – the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland campaigned successfully to have them stopped before they ruined the hill.

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    Right On!
    Key word: IMO Think "Templars" Knights <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: -->
    Follow that. <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights<!-- m -->

    I bet there is a whole big box of Pandora's INFO on this ARK we aren't even half way there of knowing.

    Thanks for this info.

    Peace
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Knights Templar

    "Many of the Templar legends are connected with the Order's early occupation of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and speculation about what relics the Templars may have found there, such as the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant."
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    There is a list on wiki with the countries associated with the Knights Templar and they have a lot of Temples in the UK : <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pl ... ts_Templar<!-- m -->


    I made a reading with the site you gave me and this part was interesting:

    Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Adversary, Affair, Alien, Ally, America, Animal, Anticipation, Apocalypse, Audio, Cabaret, Camera, Circle, Coin, Demand, Dream, Duke, Flesh, Globe, Home, I Ching, Invention, Joke, Jubilation, Key, King, Lens, Lion, Lock, Moonlight, Resistance, Snake, Submission, Surrender, Synergy, Tomb, Trumpet, Typhoon, Universe".
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Regarding the Ark I remembered an article on TMZ and the picture of a chest with supposed messages from fans to Michael. I was keeping thinking about it and I realized that the chest could represent the Ark and the messages "divine revelations" kept hidden in a safe place...

    In the Quran it is mentionned that Abraham also wrote something, "leaves of Abraham" but these "papers" have never been discovered and I alos read somewhere that "fakes" have even been created. How smart. Maybe that these writings of Abraham, the true and original ones are in the Ark...

    [87:18] This is recorded in the earlier teachings.
    [87:19] The teachings of Abraham and Moses.

    [53:36] Was he not informed of the teachings in the scripture of Moses?
    [53:37] And Abraham who fulfilled?
    [53:38] No soul bears the sins of another soul.
    [53:39] Every human being is responsible for his own works.
    [53:40] And everyone's works will be shown.
    [53:41] Then they will be paid fully for such works.
    [53:42] To your Lord is the final destiny.
    [53:43] He is the One who makes you laugh or cry.
    [53:44] He is the One who controls death and life.

    Along with the 10 commandements God tells us (via the teachings of Abraham ?) that a soul is responsible for her deeds only. Therefore the popular belief that Eve (and Adam as well but most of the time they put the blame on Eve) is responsible is bogus. Also the story of Jesus is wrong. He cannot have been crucified to purify people from their sins. This is obviously unfair and God is all about Justice.

    Also it means that we have to think for ourselves because we will be judged as individuals.
    God has given a brain to everyone we must use it to investigate and search for the truth especially in these times where all the information is more easily accessible. And do it for ourselves. If we search for The Truth, God will guide us in the right path.

    I digress sorry it was about the Ark. Well maybe that the Ark contains other "Scriptures"...
  • Lol… I followed My own advice.
    Connected DOTS and there is SO much more to THIS than we are aware of.

    Key word: IMO Think "Templars" Knights
    Follow that. <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights<!-- m -->

    “I bet there is a whole big box of Pandora's INFO on this ARK we aren't even half way there of knowing.”

    "A Templar Knight is truly a fearless knight, and secure on every side, for his soul is protected by the armour of faith, just as his body is protected by the armour of steel. He is thus doubly armed, and need fear neither demons nor men." Bernard de Clairvaux, c. 1135, De Laude Novae Militae—In Praise of the New Knighthood

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    Around 1119, two veterans of the First Crusade, the French knight Hugues de Payens and his relative Godfrey de Saint-Omer, proposed the creation of a monastic order for the protection of these pilgrims. King Baldwin II of Jerusalem agreed to their request, and gave them space for a headquarters on the Temple Mount, in the captured Al Aqsa Mosque. The Temple Mount had a mystique, because it was above what was believed to be the ruins of the Temple of Solomon. The Crusaders therefore referred to the Al Aqsa Mosque as Solomon's Temple, and it was from this location that the Order took the name of Poor Knights of Christ and the Temple of Solomon, or "Templar" knights. The Order, with about nine knights, had few financial resources and relied on donations to survive. Their emblem was of two knights riding on a single horse, emphasizing the Order's poverty.

    Side Note:
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    London Connections:

    With their military mission and extensive financial resources, the Knights Templar funded a large number of building projects around Europe and the Holy Land. Many of these structures are still standing. Many sites also maintain the name "Temple" because of centuries-old association with the Templars. For example, some of the Templars' lands in London were later rented to lawyers, which led to the names of the Temple Bar gateway and the Temple tube station. Two of the four Inns of Court which may call members to act as barristers are the Inner Temple and Middle Temple.
    Distinctive architectural elements of Templar buildings include the use of the image of "two knights on a single horse", representing the Knights' poverty, and round buildings designed to resemble the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

    The Knights Templar have become associated with legends concerning secrets and mysteries handed down to the select from ancient times. Rumors circulated even during the time of the Templars themselves. Freemasonic writers added their own speculations in the 19th century, and further fictional embellishments have been added in popular novels such as Ivanhoe, Foucault's Pendulum, and The Da Vinci Code, modern movies such as National Treasure and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, as well as video games such as Broken Sword, and Assassin's Creed.

    The Dome of the Rock, one of the structures at the Temple Mount
    Many of the Templar legends are connected with the Order's early occupation of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and speculation about what relics the Templars may have found there, such as the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant. That the Templars were in possession of some relics is certain. Many churches still display holy relics such as the bones of a saint, a scrap of cloth once worn by a holy man, or the skull of a martyr; the Templars did the same. They were documented as having a piece of the True Cross, which the Bishop of Acre carried into battle at the disastrous Horns of Hattin. When the battle was lost, Saladin captured the relic, which was then ransomed back to the Crusaders when the Muslims surrendered the city of Acre in 1191. The Templars were known to possess the head of Saint Euphemia of Chalcedon. The subject of relics also came up during the Inquisition of the Templars, as several trial documents refer to the worship of an idol of some type, referred to in some cases as a cat, a bearded head, or in some cases as Baphomet. This accusation of idol worship levied against the Templars has also led to the modern belief by some that the Templars practiced witchcraft. However, modern scholars generally explain the name Baphomet from the trial documents as simply a French misspelling of the name Mahomet (Muhammad).

    The Holy Grail quickly became associated with the Templars, even in the 12th century. The first Grail romance, the Le Conte du Graal, was written around 1180 by Chrétien de Troyes. Perhaps twenty years later Parzival, Wolfram von Eschenbach's version of the tale, refers to knights called "Templeisen" guarding the Grail Kingdom. Another hero of the Grail quest, Sir Galahad (a 13th-century literary invention of monks from St. Bernard's Cistercian Order) was depicted bearing a shield with the cross of Saint George, similar to the Templars' insignia: this version presented the "Holy" Grail as a Christian relic. However, in the extensive documents of the Templar inquisition there was never a single mention of anything like a Grail relic,let alone its possession by the Templars. In reality, most scholars agree that the story of the Grail was just that, a fiction that began circulating in medieval times.

    One legendary object that does have some connection with the Templars is the Shroud of Turin. In 1357, the shroud was first publicly displayed by the family of the grandson of Geoffrey de Charney, the Templar who had been burned at the stake with Jacques de Molay in 1314. The shroud's origins are still a matter of controversy, but in 1988, a carbon dating analysis concluded that the shroud was made between 1260 and 1390, a span that includes the last half-century of the Templars' existence. The validity of the dating methodology has subsequently been called into question, and the age of the shroud is still subject of much debate.

    Connected to Templar Knights.
    Side Note:
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  • This is out of order, There is a section of this research that I am having trouble posting. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->

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    Judaism regards the Temple Mount as the place where God chose the Divine Presence to rest, it was from here the world expanded into its present form and where God gathered the dust used to create the first man, Adam. The site is the location of Abraham's binding of Isaac, and of two Jewish Temples. According to the Bible the site should function as the center of all national life - government, judicial, economical (during the 2nd Temple period), and, of course, religious center. From that location the word of God will come out to all nations, and that is the site that all prayers are focused at. The first was built by Solomon the son of David in 957 BCE and destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BCE. The second was constructed under the auspices of Zerubbabel in 516 BCE and destroyed by the Roman Empire in 70 CE. Jewish tradition maintains it is here the Third and final Temple will also be built. The location is the holiest site in Judaism and is the place Jews turn towards during prayer. Due to its extreme sanctity, many Jews will not walk on the Mount itself, to avoid unintentionally entering the area where the Holy of Holies stood, since according to Rabbinical law, some aspect of the Divine Presence is still present at the site. It was from the Holy of Holies that the High Priest communicated directly with God. The ark of covenant and the tablets may still be buried in one of the many underground cavities at the site.


    Located In:
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    The oldest part of the city, the City of David, was settled in the 4th millennium BCE, making Jerusalem one of the oldest cities in the world. Jerusalem is the holiest city in Judaism and has been the spiritual center of the Jewish people since c. 1000 BCE, when David the King of Israel first established it as the capital of the united Kingdom of Israel (Psalms 122), and his son Solomon commissioned the building of the First Temple in the city. Jerusalem is also considered a holy city in Christianity and contains a number of significant Christian sites, and, due to the mentioning of 'The Farthest Mosque' in the Qur'an (Sura al-Isra) and the subsequent building of a mosque called 'the Farthest Mosque' on the Temple Mount, Islam regards Jerusalem as its third-holiest city.


    This IS just scratching the surface.
    Peace
  • This should be after shroud of Turin. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->

    Connecting DOTS to Tweets, lol
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    Why would I play the Milllenium Dome?
    4:59 PM May 6th via web

    Key words “DOME” “Millenium”
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    A millennium is a period of time equal to one thousand years (from the Latin phrase mille, thousand, and annus, year), often but not necessarily related numerically to a particular dating system.
    Like maybe "The second Coming of Christ"…? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->

    <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Dome<!-- m -->
    This article is about the Dome's use as a Millennium exhibition. For its post-redevelopment use as an entertainment district, see The O2 (London).
    Millennium Dome
    The Millennium Dome, often referred to simply as The Dome, is the original name of a large dome-shaped building, originally used to house the Millennium Experience, a major exhibition celebrating the beginning of the third millennium. Located on the Greenwich Peninsula in South East London, England, the exhibition opened to the public on 1 January 2000 and ran until 31 December 2000. The project and exhibition was the subject of considerable political controversy as it failed to attract the number of visitors anticipated, leading to recurring financial problems.
    While all of the original exhibition and associated complex has since been demolished, the canopy or shell of the dome still exists, and it is now a key exterior feature of the The O2 The Prime Meridian passes the western edge of the Dome.
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  • Going back to Key word "DOME" this should be after Millineum Dome info about London

    Templar Knights>>>Dome of The Rock
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    The Dome of the Rock is an Islamic shrine and major landmark located on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

    The Dome of the Rock is an Islamic shrine and major landmark located on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. It was completed in 691-692, making it the oldest existing Islamic building in the world. The site's significance stems from the religious beliefs regarding the rock, known as the Foundation Stone, at its heart.

    The first headquarters of the Knights Templar, Al Aqsa Mosque, on Jerusalem's Temple Mount. The Crusaders called it the Temple of Solomon, as it was built on top of the ruins of the original Temple, and it was from this location that the Knights took their name of Templar.

    <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Aqsa_Mosque<!-- m -->
    Al-Aqsa Mosque also known as al-Aqsa, is an Islamic holy place in the Old City of Jerusalem. The site that includes the mosque (along with the Dome of the Rock) is also referred to as al-Haram ash-Sharif or "Sacred Noble Sanctuary", a site also known as the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism, the place where the First and Second Temples are generally accepted to have stood. Widely considered as the third holiest site in Islam, Muslims believe that Muhammad was transported from the Sacred Mosque in Mecca to al-Aqsa during the Night Journey. Islamic tradition holds that Muhammad led prayers towards this site until the seventeenth month after the emigration, when God ordered him to turn towards the Ka'aba.

    Located On:
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    The Temple Mount, also known as Mount Moriah and by Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary, is a religious site in the Old City of Jerusalem.

    Judaism regards the Temple Mount as the place where God chose the Divine Presence to rest, it was from here the world expanded into its present form and where God gathered the dust used to create the first man, Adam. The site is the location of Abraham's binding of Isaac, and of two Jewish Temples. According to the Bible the site should function as the center of all national life - government, judicial, economical (during the 2nd Temple period), and, of course, religious center. From that location the word of God will come out to all nations, and that is the site that all prayers are focused at. The first was built by Solomon the son of David in 957 BCE and destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BCE. The second was constructed under the auspices of Zerubbabel in 516 BCE and destroyed by the Roman Empire in 70 CE. Jewish tradition maintains it is here the Third and final Temple will also be built. The location is the holiest site in Judaism and is the place Jews turn towards during prayer. Due to its extreme sanctity, many Jews will not walk on the Mount itself, to avoid unintentionally entering the area where the Holy of Holies stood, since according to Rabbinical law, some aspect of the Divine Presence is still present at the site. It was from the Holy of Holies that the High Priest communicated directly with God. The ark of covenant and the tablets may still be buried in one of the many underground cavities at the site.

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    Moriah is the name given to a mountain range by the Book of Genesis, in which context it is given as the location of the sacrifice of Isaac. Traditionally Moriah has been interpreted as the name of the specific mountain at which this occurred, rather than just the name of the range. The exact location referred to is currently a matter of some debate.

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    The Book of Genesis is the first book of the Hebrew Bible, the first of five books of the Torah, which are called the Pentateuch in the Christian Old Testament.

    Genesis contains some of the best known biblical stories, including the Hebrew account of the creation of the world, Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel, the Call of Abraham, Abraham and the sacrifice of Isaac, Esau and Jacob, the marriage of Jacob, Jacob and Laban, Sarah and Pharaoh, Sarah and Abimelech, the battle of the Vale of Siddim, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jacob's wrestling with the angel at Peniel, Joseph and his coat of many colours, Joseph and the interpretation of Pharaoh's dreams, Onan and his sin, the seduction of Lot by his daughters, the Blessing of Jacob, the purchase of the cave of Machpelah, and others. Structurally, it consists of the "primeval history" (chapters 1–11) and cycles of Patriarchal stories (chapters 12–50)—Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (renamed, Israel), and concluding with Joseph. Modern critical scholarship believes that the Book of Genesis reached its final form in the 5th century BC, with a previous history of composition reaching back into the 6th and 7th centuries.

    Located In:
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    The oldest part of the city, the City of David, was settled in the 4th millennium BCE, making Jerusalem one of the oldest cities in the world. Jerusalem is the holiest city in Judaism and has been the spiritual center of the Jewish people since c. 1000 BCE, when David the King of Israel first established it as the capital of the united Kingdom of Israel (Psalms 122), and his son Solomon commissioned the building of the First Temple in the city. Jerusalem is also considered a holy city in Christianity and contains a number of significant Christian sites, and, due to the mentioning of 'The Farthest Mosque' in the Qur'an (Sura al-Isra) and the subsequent building of a mosque called 'the Farthest Mosque' on the Temple Mount, Islam regards Jerusalem as its third-holiest city.

    Full Circle back to the beginning.
    This IS just scratching the surface.
    Peace
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