SCIENTOLOGY - LISA MARIE AND MJ CONNECTION
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I was watching a BBC documentary yesterday evening (link below), what disturbed me as much as anything was the amount of pyramids symbolism in the Scientology Logos (Illuminatti Links <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->) which I had never considered before, and the way the "religeon" is carried out, the confessions which are video taped, the way people are followed and controlled! It was most disturbing. Did this happen to Michael when he married Lisa Marie, did they try to get him into Scientology and to control him, when he and Lisa parted, if what we were shown on the TV is true, once they were no longer married Lisa would not be allowed to contact him <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Before watching this programme I had no knowledge of Scientology at all and it made me feel <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> It really made me begin to wonder. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
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last nights programme <!-- m -->http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 8_09_2010/<!-- m -->
Before watching this programme I had no knowledge of Scientology at all and it made me feel <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> It really made me begin to wonder. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
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last nights programme <!-- m -->http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 8_09_2010/<!-- m -->
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Hopefully, people will research more about it and learn how it harms people.
This is an excert from the link below its quite revealing
The Michael Jackson Scientology recruiting story is intriguing. Celebrities who bring in other BIG celebrities (like Mimi Rogers who brought in Tom Cruise) are treated even more royally inside the organization.
The speedy Lisa Marie Presley Michael Jackson marriage fits the classic profile of Scientology celebrity recruiting and in some ways is similar to the conveniently fast Travolta Marriage.
Michael Jackson was a highly vulnerable target. He had just come out of a drug rehabilitation program, went through child molesting charges, and his career was slumping. Lisa Marie reportedly chased him and wouldn't take no for an answer.
Michael Jackson is the ultimate plum to Scientology. In Scientology's mind one Michael Jackson can bring in millions of new young and naive members.
A fanatical Scientologist would easily marry or divorce to prove his or her total dedication to "bringing in" millions of people (clearing and controlling the planet.) Those celebrities who have been through the OT III initiation know that "clearing the planet" really means they are one of the elite aliens trapped here. They know the Scientology secret initiations woke them up to their real identity and world historic destiny, and that they will have to go back out into the galaxy and eventually re-fight the old space war. (The Scientology secret initiation process produces a fanatical loyalty at a virtually irrational level.)
Is Lisa Marie a Scientology fanatic? She was married to a Sea Org member who signed a "billion year" contract. She has lived extensively at Scientology centers. By this time she has probably passed the OT III initiation. It's well within the scope of Scientology covert operations and loyalty testing for her to have been on a celebrity recruiting operation for acquiring Michael Jackson.
Michael Jackson may be Scientology's current #1 celebrity recruiting target. Unfortunately, going from the PR nightmares of his recent past into the world's most dangerous satanic cult will not be the best way to improve his marketability. He may find that what he gets with Lisa Marie may not be worth the "marriage" benefit.
The parallels make one wonder, did Scientology offer Lisa Marie Presley as an easy public relations solution to Jackson's sexual identity problems and his potential child molesting problems? Getting married after being considered a homosexual or a child molester is a good way to quash those notions in the public's eye. Was this another Travolta Kelly Preston quick marriage orchestrated for public relations benefit?
If Jackson is being manipulated to get in, will he ever dare go public? If he is not in yet, are Scientology and Lisa Marie slowly isolating him by replacing his non Scientology staff and advisors with pro Scientology people to effect the final conversion? Will Jackson and his staff smell the con, and distance themselves completely and permanently from Lisa Marie and the cynical Scientology celebrity manipulators? Only time will tell...
have also found the following which mentions mj specifically. <!-- m -->http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/celeb1.htm<!-- m -->
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The Scientologist conspiracy: It's bigger than you think Barry Perlman
February 9, 1995 Where are all the copies of Michael Jackson's "Thriller"? As far as I know, it still stands as the greatest-selling album of all time. Yet very few people I know actually own a copy (or admit to owning a copy) of "Thriller." I still own my original vinyl copy, complete with scratches and authentic record-album hissing, but where are all the millions upon millions of others? When I finally forced myself to contemplate seriously the answer to this cultural dilemma, it became crystal clear.
All those copies of "Thriller" were never actually printed. This media hoax was strategically designed by none other than the mysterious cult of Scientologists, brilliant manipulators who are out to make the "big bucks" to support their own religious endeavors. L. Ron Hubbard's landmark book "Dianetics" also boasts inflated sales numbers, a ploy to increase the credibility of the Scientologist belief system in the eyes of America. Those millions of copies of "Dianetics" were never widely distributed but rather were sold back and forth among members of the church of Scientology, creating the illusion that a huge audience was reading the book.
Why, you may ask, would the Scientologists care enough about Michael Jackson to put out the effort? Well, if you must know, Michael Jackson is a Scientologist, although I can't be completely sure. Michael is certainly involved in some secretive shady activity or another, and all those mysterious cult organizations must somehow be involved with each other. All the money for such imitation religions flows to the same place--although the exact location remains widely unknown--and all of them look out for each other.
When a person joins one of these churches, part of the deal is a committed pledge of a significant percentage of that person's annual income. When celebrities like Michael Jackson join one of the churches, a lot of money is at stake. Churches like Scientology bend over backwards to ensure that the celebrity stays popular because: The more money the celebrity makes, the more money the church draws in.
As a result, celebrities such as Michael Jackson who often suffer from bad publicity look to their cult leaders for a way out. When everyone was concerned that Michael and his sister Janet were really the same person (since they were never seen in the same place at the same time--and they did have the same artificial nose for a while), the Scientologists made sure that the whole world witnessed the two together, hugging at some awards show. Just look at Michael's recent marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, well-known to be a Scientologist.
Michael was trying to recover from his child molestation scandal and his general reputation for being a weirdo; Lisa Marie was fighting off rumors that she was a lesbian; they both have amazing amounts of money.
Do the math: It's all a Scientologist set-up. They do it all the time.
Look at other Hollywood cover marriages. Kirstie Alley, a Scientologist, was married off to divert our attention from her alleged drug problems and ballooning weight. John Travolta, another one, was married off to a pretty blonde to prove his perennially questionable heterosexuality. Not to mention Tom Cruise, the perfect example of all. His first arranged marriage failed because Mimi Rogers was no longer willing to pretend that they were happy. Nicole Kidman was brought in and bribed with fame in exchange for staying with Tom for the publicity. They get tons of good publicity on Hard Copy and the others, quite a rarity indeed. Someone is paying for that publicity. It's the church of Scientology, making sure that no one doubts Tom Cruise's status as leading hunk and happy family man.
(Could he perhaps be gay?) Don't act surprised. This is just a sliver of what is going on behind our backs, and it's not just the Scientologists doing it. All across this great land of ours, hoax upon hoax is being pushed past us. We all heard as children that Mikey of the Life commercials died when he ate a bunch of Pop Rocks and drank Cokes and exploded. Pop myth or merchandising ploy by Pepsi-Cola, Gobstoppers and Rice Krispies, all in cahoots? We heard that Cindy Brady grew up to be a porn star.
Benign rumor or set-up by the Partridge Family people? You be the judge.
And there's no reason to think it's all going to stop any time soon;
it's been going on forever. Between 1790 and 1820 in Britain, some underground politicos staged a series of 19 suicides of Parliament members as a cover-up for an attempted coup d'etat. They weren't suicides, but murders. The more-than-20 other statesmen who were said to have "lapsed into insanity" were merely scared for their lives;
even King George III went a little crazy in anticipation.
You know, you don't have to believe me that all this stuff goes on.
It's only yourself you're fooling. What's the matter? A little paranoid, paranoid, paranoid...
Barry Perlman is a Trinity senior.
I am just gathering information, for your consideration an area which hasnt been researched. I dont believe Michael was a scientologist, but I think he had a very close call <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
<!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> God this man has serious issues, he is not in control of his life <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> This is a good example of mind control taken in conjunction with the BBC panorama program it really is <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
So, if Lisa Marie Presley, and her Pricella Presley were both Scientologists at the time she was married to Michael <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> then maybe they were supposed to recruit him into Scientology, maybe that is the reason that she would not have children with Michael, because Scientologists only have children with another Scientologist <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> I have never thought about the reason why Lisa wouldnt have children with Michael until now, maybe This is It ? her current husband is also a Scientologist and they have children. Lisa Marie has been a Scientologist since the age of 18 years. Elvis was totally against Scientology.
TS can you help me out here?
Maybe that's the reason why they divorced? Maybe she wanted to have kids with him as well but felt the pressure of the Scientology church?
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Be worth checking into how many of his 'circle' and 'friends' were also part of this religion...AHEM..sorry CULT.
So angry after watching that last night.They are so rude and the guy who runs it :@ wanted to use him as my kickboxing bag for a few hours.EUGH.
They go after,chase,follow,harrass,people,lie,bug phones,have spies everywhere...it was unreal.
He might not have been so paranoid after all....
They also try and recruit people they know have A LOT of money to put into the cult as you have to pay to go up the ranks and it can go into hundreds of thousands of Dollars and as has been said he was at a vunerable time in his life,he needed that stability and guidence from someone....that someone being LMP aka a brainwashed cult member.
CULT not religion.Brainwashing people into signing their life away and living on a compound like sing sing but slightly more cushy..is not a religion.
Tell you one thing for sure,they aint getting me to sign up <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Thank you emeraldcity, I had been thinking that way myself regarding the Elvis connection, it would be a reason why Elivs might consider returning after all this time.
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BTW, where in the U.K. are you from? I live in Oz now but originally come from Liverpool and still feel very English at heart <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Peace & love, emerald xo
is this a blog?
@Emeraldcity Im in Suffolk, but originally from Leicestershire. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Thank you for your input, its good to know Im not alone in my thinking <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> I believe there is much more to come out before the end of this.
This is just a google search regarding Joel Orsteen to demonstrate he is in fact also a Scientologist who has a connection with Dr Murray, there is quite a bit to read if you have the time. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I agree with both of you... I don't think Lisa is much into Scientology anymore. I've heard she's been removed from some of their websites and the rumor is she may have left the religion; I hope & pray she has. MJ said it was all head & no heart. He did visit the so called "church". They may have tried to convert him but failed. That said I don't believe that's why LMP married him. I believed she truly loved him; not the icon. There were forces within his ugly inner circle tearing them apart as well as her Mother's meddling. They were secretly seeing each other l o n g before the allegations on the DL; she was NOT happy in her current marriage. She didn't chase him, he hit on her while she was still married. Also She AND Liz were there to help him during his rehab; not just Liz. Lisa went to her for help.
I don't believe the bit about Joel Olsteen being a Scientologyst. I know someone involved in the Church & ministry who knew his father...they would be appalled. Although he did secretly meet & pray with Murry.
"Presley Finds English Home Near Scientology Base
LISA MARIE PRESLEY has bought a $12 million (£8 million) estate in England close to the former world headquarters of the Church of Scientology, according to a U.K. report.
The singer has lived in California since her father Elvis passed away in 1977, but she recently revealed plans to set up home in England - putting her five-bedroom ranch up for sale at just under $9 million (£6 million).
The King's daughter has now found her perfect British home in the town of Tunbridge Wells, Kent, which lies close to the town of East Grinstead, Sussex - where Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard settled in 1959 after moving from the U.S., reports Britain's The Sun.
The 11-bedroom pad has an indoor pool, cinema, sauna - as well as a lake in its huge grounds.
Presley is a devout follower of the controversial religion, insisting it stopped her "going mad or killing herself" and helped her quit drugs as a teen."
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Of course, maybe she chose that town because of a different reason, and only the media found out this connection.
"emeraldcity wrote:
Just looking at this from another angle ... do you think, in light of the hoax, that LMP (and perhaps other high profile celebrities) might be masquerading as Scientologists in order to expose the corruption and brainwashing that goes on within their organisation? We know that Elvis was very much against Scientology, and if we believe he is alive and in contact with his daughter, then imagine how he would feel knowing Lisa Marie was a fully-fledged member of a cult he abhorred."
But unfortunately her mother is a scientologist too, as I know... <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientologist<!-- m -->
Anyway, I don't know what to think of her, and I don't know what to think of the sunflowers either which the fans bring to FL since LMP asked us.
I do believe this maybe at least part of the reason for the quick marriage and divorce, and why there were no children <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Just one of many Cults...sad but true. But if Scientology was the reason for Lisa marrying MJ don't you think her Mother would have been more enthusiastic? Or the "Church"? She wasn't; she was against the marriage from the beginning. I think her meddling & MJ's ugly inner circle had a lot to do with the marriage failure. Lisa has said that they did try to get pg right away but she had some condition with her blood; I can't remember what it's called at the moment, but she wrote about it on her MySpace blog at one time, it caused a lot of miscarriages. That can be too much for a woman to bare along with all the other pressures of church & mother...