TIAI August 17

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edited September 2011 in TIAI
As most of you know already: the MJ tribute planned for October 8 is exactly 17 years (1 + 7 = 8 ) after the Elvis tribute, which MJ & LMP attended (and this redirect is on 8-17).  And it’s not just Global Live pushing Katherine into this; remember that the family has been behind it (except Jermaine and Randy).  So if the location of the tribute is not a coincidence (Cardiff Wales & Cardiff Giant hoax), then the timing of it is also not a coincidence.<br /><br />TS was not the first to bring up the Elvis connections and parallels, but TS did bring Elvis and MJ to the forefront in 2010 (www.ElvisAndMJ.com); however, the reaction from many was not supportive of bringing Elvis into the MJ hoax, and some even left this forum or the whole hoax over it.  As I have always said, though, the truth will all come out; and one year later, Jackson family members are supporting a tribute, which is very obviously intended to show the Elvis connection.<br /><br />Likewise, TS was not the first to bring up the Illuminati and secret societies aspect of the MJ hoax, but TS did bring this to the forefront in 2009 (www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com); and just like the Elvis aspect, many have opposed TS because of the Illuminati aspect.  Nearly two years later, though, Jackson family members are starting to speak publicly about this as well.  As I have already documented in the July 7 thread, La Toya’s book goes into this aspect a little {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,19778.0.html}.  Furthermore, La Toya has just recently verified the Twitter for Paris {http://twitter.com/#!/latoyajackson/status/100693639176523776}; and Paris herself tweeted in June about the “secret society” aspect, encouraging us to “take time to seek” info about this for ourselves {http://twitter.com/#!/pariisjaxn/status/80390484186509312; http://twitter.com/#!/pariisjaxn/status/80381763427385344}.<br /><br />Those who post regularly on this forum already know most or all of what I’ve said here; but I am including it because there are those not on this forum who still watch the TIAI redirects, and even copy what I post to other forums, etc.  And it’s time for these important aspects of the hoax to be understood by all on this forum, other hoax forums, and YouTube, etc.<br /><br />Getting back to the Elvis connections: the redirect for yesterday (August 16) was a statement by LMP at Graceland {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,20123.0.html}.  Most of the connections there were discovered, and commented upon in that thread; but let me review them here, and add a few points.<br /><br />“ ‘I'll see you next August.’  What does that sound like? --> I'll see you in July!” {lilwendy}.<br /><br />“ ‘Elvis Through His Daughter's Eyes’ … this made me think of Jermaine's book ‘You are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother's Eyes’.” {Sarahli}.<br /><br />“Maybe LMP's ‘entire family’ will include her father.  Elvis fans deserve a BAM too!  They've certainly been waiting long enough.” {Andrea}.<br /> <br />“ ‘...which as you all know as the 35th anniversary will be special time’  To me this was interesting. Why is the 35 anniversary special?” {GINAFELICIA}.<br /><br />The “entire family” if taken literally, would have to include Jesse/Elvis—since he is still alive.  Why is the 35th anniversary special?  Because he will then be 77 years old, the same number as the “death” year (8-16-77).  Also because it will be exactly ten years after the 25th anniversary, when Dr. Hinton said Elvis would be “coming out” at Graceland.  And because “3+5=8” {Yambo3003}; of course 8 is the key number in the Elvis numerology.<br /><br />It will also be in the year 2012, which we all know by now is a major year in MJ’s hoax (“four years” from 2009, and 911 call at 12:21, FBI files, etc).  Of course even if there is an Elvis BAM: he would not be performing again, or even seen in public (other than maybe at Graceland next year).  Now I am not saying with any certainty that Elvis will BAM on 8-16-2012; but I am saying that if he ever does, that would be a very likely time.  Anyone who has read his book knows that Jesse himself would like the general public to know the truth {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,16148.0.html}; but he has pressure from family, and especially EPE.<br /><br />Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!!  Previously, I have given probabilities, possibilities, hints, and clues of a BAM from MJ.  However, this is the very first time that I have given a BAM timing with certainty—not that I am giving an exact day or even year (could be this year or next), but I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended.  I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!<br /><br />
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  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    TS why do you always have to be so smart, organized and precise  bounce/?<br /><br />You perfectionist :mrgreen:.<br /><br />Welcome back, I like this post, and especially the promise you made. <br /><br />(please God keep Mike alive till 2013 so he can come back and keep us alive to see him coming back  bow/)
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
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    <br /><br />Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!!  Previously, I have given probabilities, possibilities, hints, and clues of a BAM from MJ. However, this is the very first time that I have given a BAM timing with certainty—not that I am giving an exact day or even year (could be this year or next), but I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended.  I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!<br /><br /><br />
    <br /> <br />I have a question, TS, that I wanted to address long time ago. You gave lot of dates and probabilities. From which none happened, and I want to ask you why.<br /> <br />-First one was if I remember, 9.09.2009. How would people have understood by that time the importance of NWO, if there are still people now who don't understand it?<br /> <br />- Halloween 2009<br /> <br />-January 2010<br /> <br />- Michael & Elvis- Double BAM this summer?<br /><br /><br />My memory fails me with other probabilities and dates now.<br /> <br />How were people supposed to understand this all by September/October 2009? Considering LaToya's book 2 years after, and how extremelly grave this all looks like? How were people expected to understand this 2 months after June 25 2009? You gave those dates; judging by that, it would mean it was not that complicated. How did it turn into something that complicated now, being delayed over and over again, if this had a probability to end in October 2009?<br /><br />Thank you
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
  • It will also be in the year 2012, which we all know by now is a major year in MJ’s hoax
    <br /><br /><br />Must be a Major year in MJ's BAM too.<br /><br /><br />
    Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!!
    <br /><br /><br />It also feels good to know an end date, now I feel I can enjoy this hoax even more...cause that's what I kinda struggled with, thinking it will be NEVER ENDING.
  • ???/  Another TIAI another delay... <br />Guess I got used to it...<br /> <br />What is the purpose of this TIAI? Is there anything for us to investigate? Any leaf pattern?
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    TS, thank you for this - I kind of thought you'd been 'wasting' posts on uncharacteristic chit-chat so that your 77th could be something meaningful!!<br /><br />Now I wonder what constitutes a BAM in your eyes!
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I think bamsday was planned like everything else. TS probably had other reasons to point out those dates as possibilities. Elvis back in the hoax, you sure know how to empty a forum TS! :lol: :lol: :lol:<br /><br />And come and chit-chat away whenever you want, I think it's nice. I also think it's nice you gave the absolute deadline, it's comforting although still a long ass time to wait, if it will last that long anyway. <br /><br /> bearhug

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    I'm all shook up. elvis_/
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    <br /><br /><br /><br />Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!! <br /><br />
    <br />Hello TS!<br />To tell you the truth, from the day TII was realized I knew MJ would be back after the famous 4 years would have been passed. He said it himself. He warned the fans it would be a long waiting process. <br />But I thought it would be 2013  confused/
  • Anyway i think I should change this smiley face  confused/ into these ones  party/ michael-jackson/ mj_bad/ lol
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    You know TS - even if let's say after 2012 you will be proved wrong - I got to tell you this: You are an amazing person. <br /><br />You built your TIAI "system" with so much care and logic and everything that I could never get mad with you. And neither with myself for following you.<br /><br />But for the meantime I hope your prediction will come true  michael-jackson/.<br /><br />
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    There are still things that have no answer, and I quote TS from September 2009.<br /> <br />Others say that if he comes back, it won’t be for years. But that would hardly qualify as "soon and very soon". Furthermore, if he did not go into permanent hiding, then he has a reason for coming back; and that would be publicity and/or to show that you can’t trust the media. So when would be a good time to do this? After a few years, when the media and the public aren’t thinking much about MJ anymore?? No, the best time to do this is NOW—while the news is still hot!<br /><br /><br />How did it change gradually from "So when would be a good time to do this? After a few years, when the media and the public aren’t thinking much about MJ anymore?? No, the best time to do this is NOW" (September 2009) to "January 1st 2013" as the deadline? Counting also a lot of other dates that never happened. This is what has no answer and I can't understand. If this all was planned, then why so many wrong dates?
  • sandythymesandythyme Posts: 365
    All I can say is I believe in God, Michael Jackson, myself (Michael taught me this) and to add to my list TS.  Thanks TS I have always believed in you.  You made my day!  I have found that our world has become very impatient, this hoax has taught us about life, listening, looking and believeing.  Many have left because they didn't believe and were....impatient.  Also, from the beginning if you informed us of a "BAM" timing, this whole site probably would not have happened.  People would think oh yeah, he'll be back and that's it.  But you made us work hard and find answers and drive our families and friends crazy because Michael is in our heads 24/7 and basically it's pass the salt and oh yeah Michael.  I am not even going to think what if there is no bam, because it's all there, the evidence is there.  It couldn't be more in plain site.  We continue on.  Thanks TS, it's a good day.  Take care, Love to All and especially to you TS  penguin/
  • Thank you TS for giving us food for thoughts and enlightment :) <br /> <br />8 is a hoax significant number + if there's gonna be a Bam, it'll be in 2012 + Michael's "See you in July" makes<br />Bamsday on July 8th, 2012 bounce/ Just a wild guess ;)
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
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    <br /><br /><br />It also feels good to know an end date, now I feel I can enjoy this hoax even more...cause that's what I kinda struggled with, thinking it will be NEVER ENDING.<br />
    <br /> <br />This is my biggest fear too. I sometimes stay and think about this all and picture myself in 2012 or 2013, with no answers, not knowing what happened, and being left with the doubt forever. And the vision of seeing this all reaching to a point when we'll be told "it's over, get back to your life, that was all. There won't be any comeback because it's too dangerous and it was decided this way". And we'll forever remain with the doubt about what happened. I'm just thinking out loud my biggest fears.<br /><br />That's the reason why I feel no peace, because it's been more than 2 years, time in which I've been here, consuming myself, losing nights reading and digging into things, and everything you all know and experienced (let downs, hopes crushed, etc.). I just can't feel at peace with this thought to never have the answers to all this. I know others have different ways to see this all, but to me this has been going inside myself since day one...
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    "four years" from 2009....it's not the number is it TS? That word is also spelled, "fore".<br />"Fore" is an adverb meaning: in front of, before, earlier, etc. <br /><br /><br />The statement by MJ "We have four years to get it right."  It's not four, it's fore.  "We have fore years to get it right."<br />Fore years prior to 2009 is 2005...the year of the trial.  Study the fore years...the years prior to 2009.  <br /><br /><br />I like this post, TS.....thanks for a bit of "summer school"... I have some more thoughts, but will have to continue later....life is calling! Blessings to you always......even if January 1, 2013 comes about! <br /><br /><br />Have a beautiful day.
  • "I've always wanted to be able to tell stories, you know, stories that came from my soul. I'd like to sit by a fire and tell people stories - make them see pictures, make them cry and laugh, take them anywhere emotionally with something as deceptivelysimple as words. I'd like to tell tales to move their souls and transform them. I've always wanted to be able to do that. Imagine how the great writers must feel, knowing they have that power. I sometimes feel I could do it. It's something I'd like to develop. In a way, songwriting uses the same skills, creates the emotional hights and lows, but the story is a sketch. It's quicksilver. There are very few books written on the art of storytelling, how to grip listeners, how to get a group of people together and amuse them. No costumes, no makeup, no nothing, just you and your voice, and your powerful ability to take them anywhere, to transform their lives, if only for minutes." Michael Jackson. Congradulations Michael!!! You did it!!! You've made us cry and laugh and you totally changed our lives forever! And I'm sure that we have a lot more to expirience before the BAM :) I wish I could spend more time here, I don't want to miss anything.                              LOVE to all!!! :) 
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    <br />....well, Michael said that teniamos 4 years to do it.<br /><br /><br /> I hope that we do not have to wait so much as the fans of Elvis and to meet this way<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />SuperStock_1599-13833.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> :lol: :lol:<br /><br /><br /><br />Yesterday i ask TS to be a little more explicit, thanks
  • salmasalma Posts: 3
    well i think that those 4 years that michael was talking about, to make a change..etc, was about[size=12pt] the 4 presidential years given to the president barack obama,[/size] remember....  moonwalk_/
  • JukeBoxJukeBox Posts: 378
    the end of 2012 is still a long way to go... yet i can't believe how far we've come since June 25 2009... Even though the waiting is sometimes tiring, i still can't help but imagine how excited the world is going to be upon learning that MJ, AND Elvis are still alive. <br />just a thought that ran through my head: perhaps the MJ Bam and Elvis Bam would happen at the same time, for effectiveness (doubling the shock) and for corroboration (both families claiming that they are the real MJ and Elvis; what are the chances of both families admitting their deaths have been faked, or having a fake replacement?). if that happens, Bam could fall on a day that involves both multiple 8s and 7s. the 35th 'death' anniversy of Elvis seems like a reasonable date, for reasons stated by TS.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Quickly and briefly,<br /><br />if we are to accept 2005-2009 being 4 years (which I do), then 2009-2012 is only 3 years. 2009-1/1/2013 would be 3.5 years.<br /><br />I find it interesting that TS didn't mention the upcoming trial at all in this post  errrr<br /><br /><br /><br />
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    <br /><br /><br /><br />Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!! <br /><br />
    <br />Hello TS!<br />To tell you the truth, from the day TII was realized I knew MJ would be back after the famous 4 years would have been passed. He said it himself. He warned the fans it would be a long waiting process. <br />But I thought it would be 2013  confused/ <br />
    <br /><br />Whoo Hoo! Inclusive reckoning...  :)  <br />See you in July; MJ<br />See you in Aug; LMP/Jessie <br />Double BAM? moonwalk_/ elvis_/ party/ <br /><br />What Ever Happens TS bearhug
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Ok I been thinking about this thing.<br /><br />Ever since TS said he would support false theories from time to time I've been looking at his posts differently.<br /><br />When Front posted the NIN thing I remembered the redirect to Year Zero.<br /><br />So the wheels have been turning and some pieces to the puzzle have fallen into place. I think.<br /><br />I think TS is the ARG, as in, the side tangents are like little rabbit holes; the FBI involvement, the Illuminati forces, the murder plot foiled and subsequent escape, the Elvis is going to BAM too story... all little ARG style rabbit holes for those who want to get that deep to fall into and follow for entertainment value.<br /><br />As in... the hoaxers are being hoaxed too. Everyone gets a turn. The media gets hoaxed by the death reports, and then subsequently by the stories "leaked" and dropped all over the place by friends/family. The non-believer fans are being hoaxed 2nd hand by the media reports and then directly by the new album and the "fake" vocals within it. Meanwhile, we, the hoaxers have been hoaxed by the elaborate TS ARG. We think we are smarter then everyone else; but in reality, we are just thinking differently, and so have fallen into our own special, personal rabbit hole of this multi-layer production. TS is hoaxing US.<br /><br />In other words, we are also a "mark", to borrow a Barnum reference. TS is the hook to capture this mark, the hoaxer.<br /><br />It's just amazingly fantastical theatric drama, isn't it? Very Hollywood.
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    <br />Ok I been thinking about this thing.<br /><br />Ever since TS said he would support false theories from time to time I've been looking at his posts differently.<br /><br />When Front posted the NIN thing I remembered the redirect to Year Zero.<br /><br />So the wheels have been turning and some pieces to the puzzle have fallen into place. I think.<br /><br />I think TS is the ARG, as in, the side tangents are like little rabbit holes; the FBI involvement, the Illuminati forces, the murder plot foiled and subsequent escape, the Elvis is going to BAM too story... all little ARG style rabbit holes for those who want to get that deep to fall into and follow for entertainment value.<br /><br />As in... the hoaxers are being hoaxed too. Everyone gets a turn. The media gets hoaxed by the death reports, and then subsequently by the stories "leaked" and dropped all over the place by friends/family. The non-believer fans are being hoaxed 2nd hand by the media reports and then directly by the new album and the "fake" vocals within it. Meanwhile, we, the hoaxers have been hoaxed by the elaborate TS ARG. We think we are smarter then everyone else; but in reality, we are just thinking differently, and so have fallen into our own special, personal rabbit hole of this multi-layer production. TS is hoaxing US.<br /><br />In other words, we are also a "mark", to borrow a Barnum reference. TS is the hook to capture this mark, the hoaxer.<br /><br />It's just amazingly fantastical theatric drama, isn't it? Very Hollywood.<br />
    <br /><br />Well THAT was depressing. :lol: You sure know how to crash a party Bec!  <br />But I understand what you're saying.
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    <br />Ok I been thinking about this thing.<br /><br />Ever since TS said he would support false theories from time to time I've been looking at his posts differently.<br /><br />When Front posted the NIN thing I remembered the redirect to Year Zero.<br /><br />So the wheels have been turning and some pieces to the puzzle have fallen into place. I think.<br /><br />I think TS is the ARG, as in, the side tangents are like little rabbit holes; the FBI involvement, the Illuminati forces, the murder plot foiled and subsequent escape, the Elvis is going to BAM too story... all little ARG style rabbit holes for those who want to get that deep to fall into and follow for entertainment value.<br /><br />As in... the hoaxers are being hoaxed too. Everyone gets a turn. The media gets hoaxed by the death reports, and then subsequently by the stories "leaked" and dropped all over the place by friends/family. The non-believer fans are being hoaxed 2nd hand by the media reports and then directly by the new album and the "fake" vocals within it. Meanwhile, we, the hoaxers have been hoaxed by the elaborate TS ARG. We think we are smarter then everyone else; but in reality, we are just thinking differently, and so have fallen into our own special, personal rabbit hole of this multi-layer production. TS is hoaxing US.<br /><br />In other words, we are also a "mark", to borrow a Barnum reference. TS is the hook to capture this mark, the hoaxer.<br /><br />It's just amazingly fantastical theatric drama, isn't it? Very Hollywood.<br />
    <br /> <br />Well stated, Bec.  party/
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