Number of Murray's medical license is G7 1169, and in the report is G0 1168. <br /><br /><br /><br />Here is a database of Califonia paramedics. www.centralregistry.ca.gov.<br /><br />EMT32907: Randall A. Johnson. License renewed Year in 2009. There are 22 people with that name in the state of California. None in LA. Probably living in satellite towns. In Long Beach, where he received the license, do not stand any RAJ today, but once a state R Allen J, who is now 59 years old. I say cut him on the list, it can not be our paramedic. So E032907 took a degree in Long Beach, lives in city X and works in LA<br /><br />EMT33663: Erik. A. Lee. It has the oldest license from 9/18/2008. The name is so common that it's hard to appreciate our man.<br /> <br />EMT51210: Chad B Brazee, only in California. Stay in Irvine, has licensed from Ventura and working in LA. Is 27 years old, graduated from Santa Margarita Catholic High School in 2001. The weird part is that this guy took license in April 2010. But I guess it has renewed it. Unless the real EMT51210 done with ambulances and Brazee has inherited ID.<br />All three have taken out LA's licenses. All three are qualified as EMT, ambulance technicians, but do not know how high the rank is, because there are four levels of EMT paramedic is highest (2 years training). It seems that Randall was head of the team, because he is the one who completed the paperwork and led rescue operation. Ambulance type ALS (Advanced Life Support), as was 71, had to be at least two paramedics, according to the protocol. Can be all three paramedics (but I doubt, or all three basic EMT). To become a paramedic you just need to have 18 and $ 70. The problem is that Johnson's paramedic-firefighter (graduate of Long Beach City FD). So the head of the rescue operation of MJ's firefighter. It is clear that just as the ambulance was equipped (though the pictures do not see that either), paramedics were some guys emerging, in any case paramedics<br /> <br />Sorry, out of names, you can not learn anything from these people, they have done nothing astounding in their lives, they dont have blogs, ,dont have pictures, do not sit on the net and, especially, did not do in their lifes interviews about MJ.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Firefighter paramedic we talked, Jeff Mills, there he is even paramedic, licensed P25527.<br /> <br /><br />I looked out of curiosity and after Steve Ruda, press officer of the LAFD. .His License is valid for only one year,he is fireman and, from what I found on the net, he didn`t covered another case than ours. Basically, LAFD has another spokesman.<br /><br />The paramedics....<br />What do we know about them?<br />● Nothing. Just as there are good guys, anonymous heroes that saves lives<br />● They tried to revive Michael Jackson but without success<br />● appeared as witnesses in the trial<br /><br /><br />Paramedics to check licenses<br />Senneff and Blount<br />● UPS! Not match those in the report<br />● Martin Blount - P16415<br />● Richard Senneff - P01230<br /><br /><br /><br />Who are these people?<br />● Some have taken Michael on a stretcher <br />● Others have signed the report<br />● But who were in the process?<br /><br />Martin Blount <br />● A bald guy withblack skin<br />● It was in ambulance<br />● It was"Towards the head "<br /><br />Who's Blount?<br />● The one in the left?<br />● But no black skin<br />● And no air pump, as said in the trial<br /><br />Richard Senneff <br />● A blond, light-skinned<br />● "The patient's head was between my knees"<br />● Is the one in the right?<br />● But that's dark and fatter<br /><br />inadvertence<br />● Appearance changed<br />● Other licenses than in port<br />● None appears in the picture<br />● Plus 100 discrepancies in statements<br />Paramedics from the process are false witnesses<br />● Do not participated in the events of June 25, 2009<br />● But what are the real paramedics?<br />● appeared at the hearings, but we have not been allowed to see them<br />● However, the cameras have captured some paramedics who were on the witness list<br /><br />You know these witnesses in uniform paramedics?<br /><br /><br /><br />They are paramedics who answered the call to 911!<br />● Senneff and Blount are just extras!<br /><br /><br /><br />credits goes here https://sites.google.com/site/whereismichaeljackson
Is it possible that BOTH a dummy and a corpse were used that day? After all, we spent a whole level trying to figure out whether the court was a hoax court or a sting court and it turned out to be both. I do remember a post by TS saying that more than one option could have been used, but I don't have the time to search for it now. Do you guys remember something about there being two "bodies" in the helicopter? One with straps and one without? One could be a corpse and one could be a dummy (used for the autopsy photos?). Although I'm not sure what the reasoning behind that would be, I'm just thinking out loud.
In all honesty and when I consider how long this has been going, how can we ever know what really happened? We go round and round in circles with the mental gymnatics .... so TS ....<br /><br />Here's the silver platter.... now dish out the facts dude! ::)<br /><br />
<br />Yes but the "stalker" fan saw something on the stretcher so that refutes the nothing theory.<br /><br />Maybe the staff wasn't supposed to see that bent upright knee like the Leave Me Alone dummy has (haha). Face or no face, that's kind of a dead (ha) giveaway.<br /><br />Is anyone really going to cover the face of a patient having trouble (or not) breathing unless they're dead? And privacy reasons? They're inside a private home/within a fully fenced/gated courtyard. Is that face covering report substantiated or just another rumor?<br /><br />Remember other rumors that they put MJ's wig on before transporting him (hahahahahahahaaaa ugh).<br />
<br /><br />Was that fan at the house or UCLA? And would that also be one of the stalker fans who set up TINI?? If so, I think you know what I think about them. :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />As for the other stuff, could be a rumour, though I do vaguely remember the face covering bit from someone's testimony in the trial. But even if they said it, it still doesn't mean they actually did it.<br /><br />(And of course, if they HAD covered his face there'd be no ambulance pic, except of course that was done the other day!)<br /><br />..... and didn't they also find and take MJ's driving licence for identification purposes - or maybe he needed it himself to drive the ambulance! :LolLolLolLol:<br /><br />Bring on Sarahli's silver platter .....! :icon_lol:
<br />..... and didn't they also find and take MJ's driving licence for identification purposes - or maybe he needed it himself to drive the ambulance! :LolLolLolLol:<br /><br />
<br /><br /><br />Nice one! :icon_lol: THAT could be a clue for sure.<br /><br /><br /><br />@flory24 - thanks for posting that info. I tried the database with Senneff's and Blount's names, they only come up under the paramedic license category, not EMT or Advanced EMT. Those first 3 names you listed are EMT licenses, not paramedic licenses. But you're right, the license numbers don't match (not even close) to what's on the ambulance report. But they also misspelled Michael's name and got his birthday wrong so the whole document is rife with errors. Could be dismissed as sloppy paperwork but it's probably to provide a loophole of some sort.<br /><br /><br /><br />Unrelated note - I saw my phone's little light flashing just now, meaning I have an email. It was from michaeljackson.com and the subject line is "Get Ready for Michael Jackson" LOL, that's all I could see as the subject on my phone's screen but when I opened it, it was for the BAD 25 special this Thursday. :icon_lol:
Bec, thanks so much for clarifying things. Your memory and reasoning is sharp. Though I’m amazed you haven’t given in to TS’s insistence MJ wasn’t there. TS and you don't budge an inch. <br />
TS taught me this during the study of the Carrolwood gates video (when we were trying to prove one day of filming or two) which removed the watersprouts from the shrubs along side the entrance of the house. Low resolution has large pixels which pick up the major background color and enlarge it to create a square of that single color, effectively erasing all subtle detail within that square of space, resulting in the appearance of a flat surface as opposed to one that has minor detail; too minor for the resolution to pick up on film.
<br />What a great teacher he’s been! Giving us teaser bits and forcing us to discover the rest.<br /><br />Bec<br />
Yes but the "stalker" fan saw something on the stretcher so that refutes the nothing theory.
<br />Yes she thought the body was too short to be MJ. The MJ casket was described as too short. The autopsy pic with the rumpled sheets didn’t show MJ’s feet. <br />I like how the dummy shown on the previous page was just the torso, and then when put with the legs, the cloth covering the privates maybe covers the joining line also.<br /><br />Andrea<br />
It is quite odd that only 2 of 4 had to testify, especially when Murray's actions that day were a major focus of the trial. I would think the prosecution would want all 4 paramedics to testify, I mean, they called a witness from a cell phone company about Murray's texts/calls that day so why not get the full picture from 4 key witnesses who were actually there with Murray? Maybe there was an agreement in place that the other 2 would participate in the events that day but wouldn't have to testify. And their lack of testimony definitely leaves a space available for MJ. And if MJ wasn't on the stretcher then he would most assuredly be in disguise.
<br />It’s true that what WASN’T mentioned or focused on throughout the hoax and trial, speaks volumes as well. MJ's been cleverly selective to weave the story-line which the fans and public bought wholesale. If we hoaxers were organizing the trial, we would have blown the whole hoax wide open :icon_twisted: :icon_lol: and spoiled everything.<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />... I feel that all the major segments of this world are under the sting...which might include, the justice system, the media, pharmaceuticals, finances, politics (?)<br />and then finally the public (including fans, the non-believers, who think murray is guilty)<br />
<br /><br /> :th_bravo:<br /><br />This answer is close enough, for our purposes. In fact, the focus of the sting is not even the subject of Level 7 (that was Level 4--which had a lot of good investigation and discussion, but the fullest answer on this will not come until after BAM).<br /><br />
<br />... I just have to add, along with the sole reason we are speculating that Blount might be an FBI agent is because TS is pushing this theory and we are trying to resolve it somehow... the sole reason we accept that Blount was not scheduled to work that shift is because TS says so. The pic that was posted in 2009 of the LAFD shift schedule was never substantiated to be current on 6/25/09 (as it was posted at a later date--schedules can/do get changed), which is why the topic long ago got ditched. We are only running with this story line now because "TS says so"... unless I'm missing some information.
<br /><br />Agreed, it is speculation that Blount is FBI, merely because I mentioned him--especially since that is NOT why I mentioned Blount.<br /><br />Also agreed that the schedule picture may not have been current on 6-25-09, and schedules can change. For the purpose at hand, though, it doesn't really matter; in fact, the point that schedules can change (even unexpectedly) is my main reason for bringing up Blount.
<br />... I feel that all the major segments of this world are under the sting...which might include, the justice system, the media, pharmaceuticals, finances, politics (?)<br />and then finally the public (including fans, the non-believers, who think murray is guilty)<br />
<br /><br /> :th_bravo:<br /><br />This answer is close enough, for our purposes. In fact, the focus of the sting is not even the subject of Level 7 (that was Level 4--which had a lot of good investigation and discussion, but the fullest answer on this will not come until after BAM).<br />
<br /><br />Broad perspective is close.<br />Makes the sting an artistic one and not a criminal one.
<br />It does make sense that the sting targets would be "them", those who think they run the world behind the scenes. Truth will only prevail once those who have been lying to everyone have been exposed. It's been a central theme of TIAI in the past 3 years. They have always been my favorite choice for sting targets, it'll be a wake-up call. Best to get them post-BAM when Michael has the world's attention.
<br />... I feel that all the major segments of this world are under the sting...which might include, the justice system, the media, pharmaceuticals, finances, politics (?)<br />and then finally the public (including fans, the non-believers, who think murray is guilty)<br />
<br /><br /> :th_bravo:<br /><br />This answer is close enough, for our purposes. In fact, the focus of the sting is not even the subject of Level 7 (that was Level 4--which had a lot of good investigation and discussion, but the fullest answer on this will not come until after BAM).<br />
<br /><br />Broad perspective is close.<br />Makes the sting an artistic one ...
<br />Agreed, it is speculation that Blount is FBI, merely because I mentioned him--especially since that is NOT why I mentioned Blount.<br /><br />Also agreed that the schedule picture may not have been current on 6-25-09, and schedules can change. For the purpose at hand, though, it doesn't really matter; in fact, the point that schedules can change (even unexpectedly) is my main reason for bringing up Blount.<br />
<br /><br />Ok - so schedules change - yep indeedy.<br /><br />We have no idea who changed it or why, or even if in fact it really was changed...and yes it is all speculation that Blount is FBI...so what was the reason for him having his shift changed and bring him into that shift on that day? <br /><br />If he's not FBI then maybe it just was a simple having to cover someone else off sick. I seriously have no idea why his shift was changed when I don't have all the facts....until then it IS all speculation.<br /><br />...why was it important to mention his change in shift anyway - if indeed that is what occurred?
Come on, TS, don't get into high blood pressure on this.<br />We are wracking our brains away and are spending trillions of hours to support this case and find the truth.<br /><br />If you state that broad perspective is ok for your (plural = several persons) purposes for now, you imply that the individual criminal sting (multiple choice following) <br /><br />a) cannot be mentioned for some reasons, <br />b) is not important for us to know <br />c) is not important for us to know for now<br />d) is not focus to be discussed (now)<br />e) is not what we should be thinking of<br />f) is not what you want us to look at<br />g) is not an opportune subject to discuss for third party reasons<br />h) is something to remain behind the curtain<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />or whatever other reason one may find for not getting into a precise "this is it".<br /><br />Mercy, ok?<br />We are still going big circles, still buying more time and at least speaking for myself: I am really tired of that.<br />I might be too blind, too, like the rest of this world, but this doesn't mean we need to shake desktops.<br />;-)<br />
I'm just reading along as I don't seem to have anything new or relevant to add, but I would like to add this thought. <br />TS pointing out that Blount had a shift change and was brought in indicates to me that there were less than we think involved in the initial hoax death scene. This sort of variable makes it hard to control such an operation. <br />This is why I'm going with there was a body there that day, and that not all the paramedics would have been in on it. Simply doing their job. Remembering the warm room temperature, the staff being sent out before the removal among a few things seem to be indicating the most likely scenario.
<br />... If he's not FBI then maybe it just was a simple having to cover someone else off sick. ...
<br /><br /> :icon_idea:<br />
<br /> <br />or could it be possible that Blount was shifted as a part of the sting...I mean to say that Blount is not any FBI agent, but he's been brought into this whole hoax situation to reveal something... ???<br /><br />thank u for quoting BTW! <br /><br />edit: I sort of feel that Blount was nervous during the trial...<br />he might have been, without his notice, used as a tool....
<br />... I just have to add, along with the sole reason we are speculating that Blount might be an FBI agent is because TS is pushing this theory and we are trying to resolve it somehow... the sole reason we accept that Blount was not scheduled to work that shift is because TS says so. The pic that was posted in 2009 of the LAFD shift schedule was never substantiated to be current on 6/25/09 (as it was posted at a later date--schedules can/do get changed), which is why the topic long ago got ditched. We are only running with this story line now because "TS says so"... unless I'm missing some information.
<br /><br />Agreed, it is speculation that Blount is FBI, merely because I mentioned him--especially since that is NOT why I mentioned Blount.<br /><br />Also agreed that the schedule picture may not have been current on 6-25-09, and schedules can change. For the purpose at hand, though, it doesn't really matter; in fact, the point that schedules can change (even unexpectedly) is my main reason for bringing up Blount.<br />
<br /><br />Again, unless I'm missing or overlooking some information, there is no evidence that there WAS a paramedic shift shift change on 6/25/09. For all we know it could have been the regularly scheduled shift, a day like any other, on 6/25/09. We're only speculating there was a shift change because, TS, you are suggesting as such in your posts. What makes you say there was a shift change? Maybe the schedule changes weekly in rotating fashion. Maybe it had just changed quarterly or whathaveyou right before the pic was taken in 2009. Maybe it had been that way for years until some time in July 2009, maybe someone retired/transferred/got fired/quit. Blount didn't mention anything about a shift change or working with an unfamiliar team in his testimony, and neither did Senneff, I haven't even heard media rumors to this account. I'm curious about your supportive evidence for this theory.<br /><br />But if it doesn't really matter, and your point is only that schedules change, I hope the Big Picture that we are supposed to get is not that Schedules (ahem) Change (cough) Unexpectedly.
Here is part of Senneff's testimony. Quite an interesting portion of it I think.<br /><br />At about 5:32 he talks about not recognising the patient and then at a "point later" he learned that the patient was Michael Jackson.<br /><br />At around 8:20 he talks about the EKG monitor being hooked up to the patient and that the patient had flat lined.<br /><br />At around 10:30 he talks about how he asked Dr M what was the patients underlying condition and when Dr M didn't answer satisfactorily he went on to explain to Dr M the "the reason I am asking is because I see an underweight patient, I see an IV and I see medication vials on the night stand.."<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />This part below is also very interesting - Senneffs testimony from about 3:00 he talks about how his observations of the patient and the condition of the patient did not line up that the episode had happened not too long before they arrived at the house (according to what Dr M told them). <br /><br />He talks about how the patients skin was very cool to the touch, eyes open dry and pupils dilated and when he hooked up the EKG machine it showed he was flat lined & the capnography reading was low<br /><br /><br /><br />
Okay, here is my theory:<br />Blount was Michael in disguise! Shift change was necessary for Michael to enter the scene and cover up things. <br /><br />We can come out with sooooo many theories. It is not easy to know what really happened during that day. We just don't have enough clues and hints. :icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />Did TS confirm that Michael has left the country a couple of days before June 25th?? I guess I missed that part!
<br />Here is part of Senneff's testimony. Quite an interesting portion of it I think.<br /><br />At about 5:32 he talks about not recognising the patient and then at a "point later" he learned that the patient was Michael Jackson.<br /><br />At around 8:20 he talks about the EKG monitor being hooked up to the patient and that the patient had flat lined.<br /><br />At around 10:30 he talks about how he asked Dr M what was the patients underlying condition and when Dr M didn't answer satisfactorily he went on to explain to Dr M the "the reason I am asking is because I see an underweight patient, I see an IV and I see medication vials on the night stand.."<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />This part below is also very interesting - Senneffs testimony from about 3:00 he talks about how his observations of the patient and the condition of the patient did not line up that the episode had happened not too long before they arrived at the house (according to what Dr M told them). <br /><br />He talks about how the patients skin was very cool to the touch, eyes open dry and pupils dilated and when he hooked up the EKG machine it showed he was flat lined & the capnography reading was low<br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />so do you mean to say that there was no dummy, but a corpse?<br /><br />
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<br />Okay, here is my theory:<br />Blount was Michael in disguise! Shift change was necessary for Michael to enter the scene and cover up things. <br /><br />We can come out with sooooo many theories. It is not easy to know what really happened during that day. We just don't have enough clues and hints. :icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />Did TS confirm that Michael has left the country a couple of days before June 25th?? I guess I missed that part!<br />
<br /><br />if we go by your theory, it would mean ALL the paramedics are in the hoax...<br />
<br />http://www.firehouse.com/search/:70336/martin-blount:70324/vv<br /><br />I found this link. It says: "One thing is for sure in EMS – whenever you start your shift, you do..."<br />I clicked on the link to read more, but it says one needs to login, and register...<br />so I definitely can't, cause i'm not a fireman...<br />I thought that i might get some information about the shift of Martin Blount from A to C.<br /><br />Anyways quoting this:<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=18185&p=317143#p317161 from im_convincedmjalive<br />
Debunking the theory of the paramedics who arrived at Michael's house on 6/25/2009 being FBI. Only 1 key person is needed at Fire station 71. That is the fire captain. <br /><br /><br /> Paramedic Blount A shift. Paramedic Senneff C shift BOTH REAL. NOT FBI. <br />http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... spita.html<br /><br />Michael Jackson hearing: Paparazzi, fans hampered paramedics from getting stricken pop star to hospital<br />January 6, 2011 | 10:58 am <br /><br />A paramedic who tried in vain to save Michael Jackson’s life testified Thursday that an unruly crowd of paparazzi and tourists outside the pop star’s home hampered efforts to get to the hospital recalled Los Angeles City Fire Department paramedic Richard “It’s a circus out there. It’s unbelievable,” Richard Senneff of the scene outside Jackson’s Holmby Hills mansion June 25, 2009. <br /><br />The witness testified on the second day of testimony at a hearing to determine whether there is enough evidence to try Dr. Conrad Murray for involuntary manslaughter.
<br /><br />has this Martin Blount shift thing been discussed before in this forum?
Ok, what if the fact that schedules can change unexpectedly means that Blount was not meant (in MJ's planning) to be on duty that day (but was called in unexpectedly), and therefore he was not in on the hoax (while the others may have been). Cat amongst the pigeons from Scene One? Someone not meant to be there walking in on the 'live' set?<br /><br /> :LolLolLolLol: Actually this doesn't make sense, given that he was the one working at 'MJ's head - out of all of them, he must've been aware of whatever 'the body' was.<br /><br />So, I'll change my original sentence to: the fact schedules can change unexpectedly could mean that Blount was not meant to be on duty that day (but was called in 'unexpectedly' to suit MJ's planning), and therefore he was definitely in on the hoax (while all the others may not have been).<br /><br />But, as has been pointed out we're only talking about this because TS mentioned it. We don't normally take his word for anything - which doesn't bode well @TS, for when/if you reveal yourself!! :icon_lol: :icon_e_surprised:
so do you mean to say that there was no dummy, but a corpse?
<br /><br />I don't know "what" there was that day.....none of us do, except perhaps for possibly 2 members here *cough cough*. However my opinion is that it was either a real body or a life like dummy. But I am leaning more towards a real body.<br /><br />[size=10pt]If[/size] it was a real body, I am thinking of the use of "alleged victim" and "alleged date" in the reading of the verdict. A real body being used most likely would have died on a different date and also certainly wasn't Michael Jackson.<br /><br />I think the 2 videos I posted above of Senneff's testimony under oath goes a bit towards supporting the theory of a real body being used - he indicates he didn't know the patient was Michael Jackson straight away until a "point later" (I wonder how much later that "point" was?), the patient was underweight, was hooked up to an IV drip and there were medication vials on the night stand, the patient was basically already dead because he had flat lined and the timing of the episode did not match up with what he observed of the physical signs of the patient. I mean for all we know the body may have been a terminally ill hopsice patient who had been on life support at Carolwood.<br /><br />I have been looking at the testimony of the Emergency Doctor too - Dr Richelle Cooper - it is long and I will have to go back and find the exact section - but at one point she is asked does she know the time of the death of Michael Jackson and replies she didn't know and that he was clinically dead when he arrived at the ER at UCLA. <br /><br />There was also the testimony of the UCLA Cardiologist Dr. Thao Nguyen who also testified that she thought he was dead on arrival at UCLA ( again I have to go back and rewatch her testimony) and find the section.<br /><br />Having said all that - it's speculation on my part stemming from how I am interpreting the information I have watched and listened to.<br /><br />
Also agreed that the schedule picture may not have been current on 6-25-09, and schedules can change. For the purpose at hand, though, it doesn't really matter; in fact, the point that schedules can change (even unexpectedly) is my main reason for bringing up Blount.
<br />The fact he was put on shift C that day randomly shows the hoax would work even if unforeseen changes happen, as they do in a fast-paced world. So where does that leave us if perhaps the EMT’s were not in on the hoax? They were all just doing their job that day. To prepare for executing this hoax, like the old series Mission Impossible, MJ had to know perfectly the regular daily routine and possible variation of every one of the groups of people involved in the hoax, so that even if there were some slight changes, it wouldn't be drastic enough to derail the main event.<br /><br />Adi<br />
I mean for all we know the body may have been a terminally ill hopsice patient who had been on life support at Carolwood.
<br />No one was allowed upstairs in that room besides MJ, the kids and Murray, for we don't know how long--pehaps months. The Michael Bush 'Dressing the King of Pop' book was going to give some proceeds to a Hospice, can't remember location. Also Elvis used a patient on life-support, pulling the plug on 'death' day, and we know the many hoax parallels were planned on purpose. But instead of the problematic melting wax 'Elvis' in the coffin, MJ's dummy is state of the art. Back to 100 Carolwood, perhaps this patient was given by close family members of a friend of MJ (or arranged by FBI). Kai Chase said she saw Murray dragging oxygen tanks out every day, which is what life-support requires plenty of. But Murray only came to the house in the evening to get ready for MJ staying the night. So who would look after the patient, and Murray may not even be a real doctor. Tohme said he wasn't a practising doctor. There must have been another full-time live-in doctor doing the necessary care, which would likely involve a lot of equipment, meds, etc. EMT's didn't see any when they arrived, but they could have been hidden in another room immediately after the 'doctor' pulled the plug. Remember all that nonsense about Randy J. not having the key and Front said he went in the front door and slipped out the back door. http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg356018.html#msg356018 Did someone slip out the back door that was involved? Wasn't there talk about some mysterious other person in the house that day by Latoya or someone, that they suspected helped murder MJ? Okay, so then the day after MJ died, Janet and Latoya were in the house doing whatever, with the big U-haul van who knows if they were setting the next scene for the next 'act'. <br /><br />My list for who's in could then be:<br /><br />Yes: Bodygaurd Alberto Alverez, his sister Nicole, Murray, Coroner, head Doctor or nurse at UCLA that dealt with the body on the gurney pic, Kenny Ortega, Randy Phillips, John Branca, MJ's kids and immediate family, Travis Paine, Karen Faye, Harvey Levin, Judge, DA, Defense and clerk in trial, and certain other trusted close friends and sponsors.<br /><br />No: Other bodyguards, all EMT's, UCLA staff, house employees, dancers, etc. <br /><br />TS, is this minimal enough?<br />
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<br />http://www.firehouse.com/search/:70336/martin-blount:70324/vv<br /><br />I found this link. It says: "One thing is for sure in EMS – whenever you start your shift, you do..."<br />I clicked on the link to read more, but it says one needs to login, and register...<br />so I definitely can't, cause i'm not a fireman...<br />I thought that i might get some information about the shift of Martin Blount from A to C.<br /><br />Anyways quoting this:<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=18185&p=317143#p317161 from im_convincedmjalive<br /> <br /><br />has this Martin Blount shift thing been discussed before in this forum?