<br />Gina, I think many people contributed great info to that thread. We did our best with what we know.<br /><br />Mjonmind he could very well be yelling at us lol, but I don't know. The smilies could mean anything. I did notice no one seems to care to post much about any theory in the 11-11-11 thread or any thread really. Or is it just me?<br />
<br /><br />[size=10pt]No is not just you,lol ,I noticed also geek/ !!!! I think that the fact of not posting has to do with all this DECEPTION,which is ongoing.Michael's family keep saying about the same stuff for more than 2 years now.The only difference is that at one point they change their story,by saying the opposite,lol :? .Well in the end,it's not very important what family tells,not for me anyway,lol.Michael,told ,over and over again,not to believe a thing,if is not from his own mouth,and since he is kinda missing in action..............I will don't beLIEve anything anymore,even if it comes,from Latoya,Jermanine,Harvery, or ETC geek/ .[/size]
It think he posted all those quotes from the family, then did a :shock: face because he's shocked that people still think Michael's dead, or maybe he's shocked that some soldiers still believe there was/is no illuminati after him, when he's given us all this evidence that there in fact is. (Jack Gordon saying "we got him!" in Starting Over, etc.) .....? :?
okay, I have been saying for months now that if BAM would be in 2011, that it would be today, so I am reading this redirect in a completely different way. Certainly when I looked at what is underlined. I am fully aware that I can be wrong, because I have been wrong on many dates before, but never was a date so perfect in my book. Plus even the believers are not expecting anything today, most of them are disappointed and sad.<br /><br />TS emphasizes on this date, by posting it in caps. Coincidence? When I look at TS' last update (under username TS), it was posted exactly 1 year ago today, at 11:30. Not only that, but the 11th paragraph was called "Eleven thirty", which could mean 11/11/30 or 2011/11/30. He also redirected to a clock in October 2010 that said 11:30. The update was numbered at 6.5. Not 6a or 7, but 6.5. TS pointed out that 6+5 is 11, but 6x5 is 30. 11/30 again. Was this a prediction?<br /><br />BACK had a 7 day theory: 7 days + 1 day of simmering. Today is 1 day of simmering since the sentencing yesterday, but if you take 777 days, it would require 111 days of simmering (111 x 7 days + 1 day of simmering). Today is day 888 of the hoax... Although it's day 334 of the year, 333 days have passed (it can't all be perfect, this comes pretty close to perfect). 888+333=1221.<br /><br />Sybolism of 888: The Christ, the resurrection, the baptism. Symbol of the Redemption. By its composition, this number is considered as perfect. <br />http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu888.php<br /><br />888 is also considered the number of the Holy Spirit, infinity, eternal life. 333 is symbolizing spiritual and/or physical awakening.<br /><br />Today is also the 29th anniversary of the Thriller album. The Biblical meaning of 29: combination of 20, the number of expectation, and 9, the number of judgment.<br /><br />888 is Elvis' number. <br /><br />Today is a Wednesday. Thriller short film: "See you next Wednesday"<br /><br />And Adi found out: "What is even more interesting is that from 25th June 2009 to 30th November 2011 it is 2 years, 5 months, 6 days (inclusive)....recognise those numbers????? 25/6"<br /><br />I don't want to give you all false hope, but I can't help but being carefully excited today. Whether for a BAM or some other major thing, I don't know. Don't shoot me if I'm wrong okay?
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
What I simply don't understand is WHY if these dates are planned and cannot be coincidence nothing ever happens on these days? As well as with the August 11th and the "tremendous backlight" that Front talked about which proved itself to be nothing in fact. Why if these dates look so perfect and almost impossible to get this by coincidence nothing ever happens?
Might be nothing, but it's also Cities for Life Day today. Symbolic monuments in hundreds of cities all over the world will be illuminated as a statement against the death penalty. <br /><br />Throughout the world, more than 500 CITIES FOR LIFE<br />enlighten a symbolic monument<br />AGAINST THE DEATH PENALTY,<br />to affirm their participation to the initiative<br />NO JUSTICE WITHOUT LIFE<br /><br />http://www.santegidio.org/no_death_penalty/2005/pdm_edit_en.htm<br />
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I guess we have to expect the unexpected. As soon as someone says it will happen on a certain day, I think, it won't happen that day now. Sorta like:<br />
<br /><br />Matthew 24:36<br />[color=rgb(0, 19, 32)]"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.[/color]
<br /><br /><br />No death penalty! Next should be prison conditions for many countries, and wrongful convictions.
Souza I agree, it's exactly how I read this post. The 'NOVEMBER' being in all caps means something. It could have two meanings, one being 'keep the faith' and the other being 'BAM' lol.<br /><br />It is a perfect day in hoax numerology so we will see. I won't shoot you, and nobody shoot me lol >:o. I think it's okay to be a little excited, and if nothing happens....oh well.<br /><br />Applehead, in my opinion we do have to take into account what the family says. It doesn't mean everythings true ofcourse; but that's for us to figure out. Decipher between deception and truth. If we don't listen to them than we don't have much of anything. People are probably not posting theories because we've posted them all lol.
<br />okay, I have been saying for months now that if BAM would be in 2011, that it would be today, so I am reading this redirect in a completely different way. Certainly when I looked at what is underlined. I am fully aware that I can be wrong, because I have been wrong on many dates before, but never was a date so perfect in my book. Plus even the believers are not expecting anything today, most of them are disappointed and sad.<br /><br />TS emphasizes on this date, by posting it in caps. Coincidence? When I look at TS' last update (under username TS), it was posted exactly 1 year ago today, at 11:30. Not only that, but the 11th paragraph was called "Eleven thirty", which could mean 11/11/30 or 2011/11/30. He also redirected to a clock in October 2010 that said 11:30. The update was numbered at 6.5. Not 6a or 7, but 6.5. TS pointed out that 6+5 is 11, but 6x5 is 30. 11/30 again. Was this a prediction?<br /><br />BACK had a 7 day theory: 7 days + 1 day of simmering. Today is 1 day of simmering since the sentencing yesterday, but if you take 777 days, it would require 111 days of simmering (111 x 7 days + 1 day of simmering). Today is day 888 of the hoax... Although it's day 334 of the year, 333 days have passed (it can't all be perfect, this comes pretty close to perfect). 888+333=1221.<br /><br />Sybolism of 888: The Christ, the resurrection, the baptism. Symbol of the Redemption. By its composition, this number is considered as perfect. <br />http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu888.php<br /><br />888 is also considered the number of the Holy Spirit, infinity, eternal life. 333 is symbolizing spiritual and/or physical awakening.<br /><br />Today is also the 29th anniversary of the Thriller album. The Biblical meaning of 29: combination of 20, the number of expectation, and 9, the number of judgment.<br /><br />888 is Elvis' number. <br /><br />Today is a Wednesday. Thriller short film: "See you next Wednesday"<br /><br />And Adi found out: "What is even more interesting is that from 25th June 2009 to 30th November 2011 it is 2 years, 5 months, 6 days (inclusive)....recognise those numbers????? 25/6"<br /><br />I don't want to give you all false hope, but I can't help but being carefully excited today. Whether for a BAM or some other major thing, I don't know. Don't shoot me if I'm wrong okay?<br />
<br /><br /><br />you know what.. even though i am not expecting anything today (if for any reason, more out of protecting myself) but this is a perfect post (numbers wise) its as perfect as a post can be.... everything adds up.... if something were to happen on any day - these numbers really do indicate today is the day.... i cant believe it. i am have gone over this post three times and it makes sense more than any other dates do...<br /><br />i really cant believe my eyes...<br /><br />
Can I ask why everyone is so opposed to AEG being the illuminati everyone is talking about ??<br /><br />Does everyone know about the evils behind this empire, mainly Philip Aschultz ???<br /><br />I feel that no-body is even achnowledging the information I have, and after two and a half years of hours of research and years of neglecting my son, my duties and my homework and my social life, that its all been for nothing....... :'(<br /><br />I look at the facts, not assumptions......I don't know why others dont want to look at some real evidence I have, but decide to accept everything else they read from the media and treat that as gospel.... Yes Michael had god-like qualities, but he is not God. He is a unique human being, but has sinned as has shortcommings just like all of us. <br /><br />God gave him a gift of creativity and dance and music, and he has always used it for the good of others. But as far as the illuminati and secret societies go, he also was a threat to them, because he knew what was going on, and used his music to expose these mind-controlling beasts..<br /><br />I know for a fact that MJ was going to talk about the NWO during his concerts, and threats have been made on his life for doing so....that's why this became more urgent than ever to pull off this hoax, and if I was Michaels daughter, son, sister, brother, mother or father, I would whatever it takes to keep him safe.<br /><br />The MK ultra programming has been around for years...it hapenned to so many other artists that spoke the truth and rebelled, and it was just a matter of time before they would a assasinate MJ too...<br /><br />Loius Farrankhan got a phone call from Michael a week before his disappearance, and begged him for help.<br /><br />Louis Farrankhan protected MJ during the 2005 trial allegations, and provided him with many of his NOI security guards, and some of them still remained until the end.......<br /><br />The drill is a significant part of the NOI army.....and as you are all aware, The Drill has been such a dominant part of the message being spread around the world....<br /><br />Please spend some time reading this blog and tell me what you think....it has many answers to complete the puzzle.<br /><br />OK Murray was lured into this too good to be true arrangement, and took the bait.<br /><br />I truly admire him for being so humble in make such a sacrifice to help Michael expose the real murders....and I say that, because MJ is dead to the world...and that's what the bad guys need to believe, in order to fish out the real people responsible...<br /><br />The clues are already out there........MJ's family suing the promotors of This Is It....what more evidence do we need.....<br /><br />Murray will talk soon, but not until it is safe enough to do so.........If he is in jail, they can't get him and kill him too. Its the safest place for him to be...........<br /><br /><br />http://mindcontrolblackassassins.wordpress.com/
Your right Souza that is pretty perfect...<br /><br />Also in the same redirect you mentioned, TS says this;<br /><br />
Speaking of Thriller, 11:30 (PM) is “close to midnight ... the midnight hour is close at hand”. So 11:30 also represents near the end (end of the day, or end of the hoax, or end of the world, etc).
<br /><br />It seems like the time, but it also seems too predictable.<br /><br />Also in another redirect TS spoke about similar things to this redirect...about what the 'truth' means..<br /><br />
On June 14, 2010, Janet tweeted this: “It’s time the fans know the truth …”<br />{Jun 14th via web;
verified account}. What “truth” was Janet referring to, that was then “time” for the fans to “know”? Perhaps that MJ is dead, and he was murdered? If so, that is nothing that hasn’t been said many times already. Furthermore, if MJ is alive, then murder would not be the “truth”—instead, the hoax would be the truth. Yet nearly three months have passed since then, and no hoax truth has come out publicly from the Jacksons.<br /><br />What we do know for sure is that: “It’s all going to come out; it’s all going to unfold.” {}. This is what Jermaine said back in February, 2010; and it was stated in the context of the “airport” slip, so we know he meant the hoax is all going to come out {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7010}.<br /><br />Jermaine also reiterated this again on Larry King interview in June, 2010. “[Larry:] Do you think we’ll ever find out the whole story? [Jermaine:] Yes! Yes! You know why, because his [MJ’s] family is not going to let it not happen. ... We’re going to do everything in our power as a family to make sure the world knows what really happened.” {}.
I am not against the "AEG is bad guy" theory at all. But that would mean they gained behind the scenes, because looking at the surface: AEG lost as well here. AEG had money to gain if MJ would have done the shows. I also believe TII was Michael's idea (as a MOVIE, not a series of concerts), and not AEG's. AEG could be the bad guy, of course, but how? What was the plan?
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
The New John Gill Exposition<br /> <br />[size=10pt]Luke 11:30[/size]<br /><br />For as Jonas was a sign to the Ninevites…<br />As he was by lying three days and three nights in the whale's belly, [size=10pt]and then cast on shore alive; which sign, or miracle was wrought to confirm his mission and message, and to engage the Ninevites to give credit to him, and repent, or they might assure themselves they would be utterly destroyed; [/size] [size=14pt]so shall also the son of man be to this generation;<br />by lying three days and three nights in the heart of the earth, and then rising again from the dead the third day; and which should be done to confirm the truth of his Messiahship, and to declare him to be the Son of God with power, and to engage persons to believe in him; and to assure that wicked generation, that in case they remained, after such a sign, impenitent and unbelieving, wrath would come upon them to the uttermost[/size];<br /><br /> party/ party/ party/ afraid/ afraid/
Hi Everyone.....My head hurts from these last couple of days! Souza I believe in your numbers, you put so much into your thoughts and observation. Today would make sense. Carefully excited is a good way to look at today. I believe Michael would want us excited and shocked as well as the rest of the world, yesterday could have been to obvious. So we wait. I don't feel sad and I am not loosing hope after all of this time all the info we have, we know Michael is alive. We just have to wait. That's the hard part. As for AEG, I have this strange feeling that they are going to be the ones backing this whole hoax.....for profit and other reasons. But don't shoot me down, I just have a feeling. Let's face it, they have a lot of money and when you have such a project as this you need financial backing. I am just thinking maybe they will end up being someone who is helping Michael in some way? Take care everyone, remember to breath, this is all a test. We will be fine. Love to All
@2good2btrue - i very much believe in the things you speak of in your post... i think that you will be suprised that many others do too...<br /><br />in fact it was these things you speak of that lead me to discover MJDH in the first place...
<br /><br />LOL, I didn't even notice that. It also makes 9 (1+1+3+0+2+0+1+1)
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
<br />okay, I have been saying for months now that if BAM would be in 2011, that it would be today, so I am reading this redirect in a completely different way. Certainly when I looked at what is underlined. I am fully aware that I can be wrong, because I have been wrong on many dates before, but never was a date so perfect in my book. Plus even the believers are not expecting anything today, most of them are disappointed and sad.<br /><br />TS emphasizes on this date, by posting it in caps. Coincidence? When I look at TS' last update (under username TS), it was posted exactly 1 year ago today, at 11:30. Not only that, but the 11th paragraph was called "Eleven thirty", which could mean 11/11/30 or 2011/11/30. He also redirected to a clock in October 2010 that said 11:30. The update was numbered at 6.5. Not 6a or 7, but 6.5. TS pointed out that 6+5 is 11, but 6x5 is 30. 11/30 again. Was this a prediction?<br /><br />BACK had a 7 day theory: 7 days + 1 day of simmering. Today is 1 day of simmering since the sentencing yesterday, but if you take 777 days, it would require 111 days of simmering (111 x 7 days + 1 day of simmering). Today is day 888 of the hoax... Although it's day 334 of the year, 333 days have passed (it can't all be perfect, this comes pretty close to perfect). 888+333=1221.<br /><br />Sybolism of 888: The Christ, the resurrection, the baptism. Symbol of the Redemption. By its composition, this number is considered as perfect. <br />http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu888.php<br /><br />888 is also considered the number of the Holy Spirit, infinity, eternal life. 333 is symbolizing spiritual and/or physical awakening.<br /><br />Today is also the 29th anniversary of the Thriller album. The Biblical meaning of 29: combination of 20, the number of expectation, and 9, the number of judgment.<br /><br />888 is Elvis' number. <br /><br />Today is a Wednesday. Thriller short film: "See you next Wednesday"<br /><br />And Adi found out: "What is even more interesting is that from 25th June 2009 to 30th November 2011 it is 2 years, 5 months, 6 days (inclusive)....recognise those numbers????? 25/6"<br /><br />I don't want to give you all false hope, but I can't help but being carefully excited today. Whether for a BAM or some other major thing, I don't know. Don't shoot me if I'm wrong okay?<br />
<br /><br />Great post, Souza. I am so ready to wear my "Told You So" T-shirt! Thanks, TS, for the redirect. Still keeping the faith. L.O.V.E.
<br />Can I ask why everyone is so opposed to AEG being the illuminati everyone is talking about ??<br /><br />Does everyone know about the evils behind this empire, mainly Philip Aschultz ???<br /><br />I feel that no-body is even achnowledging the information I have, and after two and a half years of hours of research and years of neglecting my son, my duties and my homework and my social life, that its all been for nothing....... :'(<br /><br />I look at the facts, not assumptions......I don't know why others dont want to look at some real evidence I have, but decide to accept everything else they read from the media and treat that as gospel.... Yes Michael had god-like qualities, but he is not God. He is a unique human being, but has sinned as has shortcommings just like all of us. <br /><br />God gave him a gift of creativity and dance and music, and he has always used it for the good of others. But as far as the illuminati and secret societies go, he also was a threat to them, because he knew what was going on, and used his music to expose these mind-controlling beasts..<br /><br />I know for a fact that MJ was going to talk about the NWO during his concerts, and threats have been made on his life for doing so....that's why this became more urgent than ever to pull off this hoax, and if I was Michaels daughter, son, sister, brother, mother or father, I would whatever it takes to keep him safe.<br /><br />The MK ultra programming has been around for years...it hapenned to so many other artists that spoke the truth and rebelled, and it was just a matter of time before they would a assasinate MJ too...<br /><br />Loius Farrankhan got a phone call from Michael a week before his disappearance, and begged him for help.<br /><br />Louis Farrankhan protected MJ during the 2005 trial allegations, and provided him with many of his NOI security guards, and some of them still remained until the end.......<br /><br />The drill is a significant part of the NOI army.....and as you are all aware, The Drill has been such a dominant part of the message being spread around the world....<br /><br />Please spend some time reading this blog and tell me what you think....it has many answers to complete the puzzle.<br /><br />OK Murray was lured into this too good to be true arrangement, and took the bait.<br /><br />I truly admire him for being so humble in make such a sacrifice to help Michael expose the real murders....and I say that, because MJ is dead to the world...and that's what the bad guys need to believe, in order to fish out the real people responsible...<br /><br />The clues are already out there........MJ's family suing the promotors of This Is It....what more evidence do we need.....<br /><br />Murray will talk soon, but not until it is safe enough to do so.........If he is in jail, they can't get him and kill him too. Its the safest place for him to be...........<br /><br /><br />http://mindcontrolblackassassins.wordpress.com/<br />
<br /><br />I will read the blogg. I came across much of what you have written in my early days of research, and yes I agree much is true IMO. I dont post much, my policy read all say nothing and investigate fully.<br /><br /><br />Dont be disappointed, we all find our ways to the truth in different ways as we are all different in or own individual ways.<br /><br /><br />It has not all been for nothing you have learnt much in your search for the truth. <br /><br /><br />Blessings<br /><br />Keep the faith<br /><br /> bearhug<br /><br /><br />
<br />okay, I have been saying for months now that if BAM would be in 2011, that it would be today, so I am reading this redirect in a completely different way. Certainly when I looked at what is underlined. I am fully aware that I can be wrong, because I have been wrong on many dates before, but never was a date so perfect in my book. Plus even the believers are not expecting anything today, most of them are disappointed and sad.<br /><br />TS emphasizes on this date, by posting it in caps. Coincidence? When I look at TS' last update (under username TS), it was posted exactly 1 year ago today, at 11:30. Not only that, but the 11th paragraph was called "Eleven thirty", which could mean 11/11/30 or 2011/11/30. He also redirected to a clock in October 2010 that said 11:30. The update was numbered at 6.5. Not 6a or 7, but 6.5. TS pointed out that 6+5 is 11, but 6x5 is 30. 11/30 again. Was this a prediction?<br /><br />BACK had a 7 day theory: 7 days + 1 day of simmering. Today is 1 day of simmering since the sentencing yesterday, but if you take 777 days, it would require 111 days of simmering (111 x 7 days + 1 day of simmering). Today is day 888 of the hoax... Although it's day 334 of the year, 333 days have passed (it can't all be perfect, this comes pretty close to perfect). 888+333=1221.<br /><br />Sybolism of 888: The Christ, the resurrection, the baptism. Symbol of the Redemption. By its composition, this number is considered as perfect. <br />http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu888.php<br /><br />888 is also considered the number of the Holy Spirit, infinity, eternal life. 333 is symbolizing spiritual and/or physical awakening.<br /><br />Today is also the 29th anniversary of the Thriller album. The Biblical meaning of 29: combination of 20, the number of expectation, and 9, the number of judgment.<br /><br />888 is Elvis' number. <br /><br />Today is a Wednesday. Thriller short film: "See you next Wednesday"<br /><br />And Adi found out: "What is even more interesting is that from 25th June 2009 to 30th November 2011 it is 2 years, 5 months, 6 days (inclusive)....recognise those numbers????? 25/6"<br /><br />I don't want to give you all false hope, but I can't help but being carefully excited today. Whether for a BAM or some other major thing, I don't know. Don't shoot me if I'm wrong okay?<br />
<br /><br />Wow! Really great post Souza! Thanks! /bravo/ I have previously thought about the November 30...and now the day has come. I will not shoot anybody if nothing happens today ::P I am hoping bounce/ The 30th of November fits so well with the numerology! I don't put to much expectation on this day. Rather astonished, than disappointed. I'm pondering on how Michael would BAM. Leap in front of a camera and yell "I'm alive", isn't that fanciful. Maybe he would jump out of his 'tomb'?... 'Cause this is Thriller, Thriller Night! Aaaaow! mj_bad/<br /><br />And thanks TS for the redirect! Hope you're doing fine today <br /><br />L.O.V.E. and hugs to you! bearhug
<br />What I simply don't understand is WHY if these dates are planned and cannot be coincidence nothing ever happens on these days? As well as with the August 11th and the "tremendous backlight" that Front talked about which proved itself to be nothing in fact. Why if these dates look so perfect and almost impossible to get this by coincidence nothing ever happens? <br />
<br /><br /><br />We won't find the answer for this question anytime soon, unfortunately, and btw, nothing will happen today. If it's meant to happen, it will happen when noone expects it, regardless the numerology. IMO
Souza, will you stop believing if nothing happens today? <br /><br />What about the Elvis' BAM in January? If this has to be a double Bam - Elvis must be first.<br /><br /><br />
<br />There is more to the story. There are other people involved and Jermaine validates the fact that Conrad Murray is the "fall guy". I don't believe that Michael Jackson would have an innocent man imprisoned although I do believe that this is an essential part of the hoax. Conrad Murray said "If I told the truth I would be exhonorated" Therefore, the whole truth has not been revealed to us as of yet. The Civil trial is in September 2012, keep the faith!<br />
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.""For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.""For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.""For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."