Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

empyreal

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."<br /><br /><br />I've been observing this forum for some time now. We’re a group of investigators, right? Let’s do some hardcore investigating together. Let’s combine forces and make this investigation huge. I noticed a majority of you believe Michael faked his death to escape the Illuminati and protect his family. I’m extremely pleased that this investigation has awoken so many of you the facts. The world is not what we thought it was, is it? The way I see it, the “hoax” can be split three ways:<br /><br />1. The “Illuminati” were trying to kill Michael (as he told many people) and he out thought them and managed to escape, saving himself and his family. <br />2. Michael did not out think the Illuminati and they killed him.<br />3. Dr. Murray was responsible for his death. The Illuminati wasn’t involved. <br /><br />NOTE: I’m going to say IF a lot, which I know a lot of you don’t like. The reason I’m doing this is because I don’t want you to know if I think he’s alive or not. I want you all to use your own intuition. YES that part is very important. I think everyone here wants him to be alive. But, I think we should all work together on exposing and figuring out the common denominator for all this- The Illuminati. Because even if they didn’t get him, they’re still trying to and he’s still in danger. He wanted to help us see. I think we need to honor him, alive or dead and HELP HIM this time. <br /><br />Now, a little investigating can eliminate number 3. His own family believes he was murdered and Murray was the “fall guy.” Michael knew what was happening. He knew they were against him. He told so many people they were trying to kill him. He wouldn’t eat or drink because they were trying to poison him. (This is where the rumors came from that he wasn’t eating.) Michael’s records were number one ALL OVER THE WORLD. Everywhere except America, that is. The American government is filled with the most corrupt, power hungry elites of all. They despise Michael Jackson and everything he stands for. Michael spoke of this on numerous occasions, many of which can be found on youtube. He is even quoted in a video saying his records were number one all over the world, except for America. When asked why he said, “I don’t wanna say too much, there’s a conspiracy, I don’t wanna say too much. I’m done.”  The American government has depopulation plans. They study a religion called Eugenics. They plan to kill off a majority of our world’s population using genocide. Michael planned to expose this and many other NWO tactics, which is why many believe he was killed before he got the chance. This is all done behind the curtain. Nobody knows who REALLY runs this country. Much like Murray, the president and visible government are the FALL GUYS. They read from teleprompters and do what they are told. Presidents who fail to comply are killed.  <br /><br />The reason I did not include that this was all a game or “The greatest show on earth” as a theory is because it’s not at all like that. Sure, if Michael comes back, I’m sure it will be THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH. But that was not why he did what he did, if he did. I believe that whole thing was a distraction.<br /><br />We’re all one. We all have a common denominator. Let’s stop trying to get people to believe he alive or believe he’s dead. Because the truth is, those of you who think he’s alive have so much passion and intuition that there is no talking you out of it. And those of you who believe he’s dead are the same way. Go with your own intuition. But, Michael tried so hard to expose what they are doing to us. And he may have paid the ultimate price for trying to share his knowledge. Let’s expose these people!<br /><br />PLEASE do your research. PLEASE look up everything mentioned on here if you are not already familiar with it. <br />If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share. <br /><br />I love you all. <br />We can do this. <br /><br /><br />"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."<br />

Magic_Love_4U

This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.<br />I agree with you, and it should be the focus.

2good2btrue

I also agree 100%, but at the same time, we are trying to find out "WHO" they are too.<br /><br />That will answer the question we all have on this forum.......WHO wanted him dead ??<br /><br />We are still searching for that answer, but we believe, MJ did escape in time.  <br /><br />So how are we going to catch those PUPPET masters ????<br /><br />I personally have done alot of research, we all have, and our common demoninator, is that the ILLUMINATI wanted him dead......<br /><br />Have you seen Louis Farrakhan speeches about this ??  Him completely knows "WHO" they are, and MJ did call him 7 days before the HOAX and asked him for help....Help from the NOI, and it is noted an increased number of BODYGUARDS were seen on the night of the 24th Jne at his house...Hmmmmmmmm<br /><br />

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2good2btrue

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empyreal

@2good Farrakhan is a brilliant man.

Souza

on 1322959631:

<br />This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.<br />

<br /><br />Well that's pretty insulting to the members that have been investigating this very same topic for 2 years already on here.

paula-c

on 1322959224:

<br />"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."<br /><br /><br />I've been observing this forum for some time now. We’re a group of investigators, right? Let’s do some hardcore investigating together. Let’s combine forces and make this investigation huge. I noticed a majority of you believe Michael faked his death to escape the Illuminati and protect his family. I’m extremely pleased that this investigation has awoken so many of you the facts. The world is not what we thought it was, is it? The way I see it, the “hoax” can be split three ways:<br /><br />1. The “Illuminati” were trying to kill Michael (as he told many people) and he out thought them and managed to escape, saving himself and his family. <br />2. Michael did not out think the Illuminati and they killed him.<br />3. Dr. Murray was responsible for his death. The Illuminati wasn’t involved. <br /><br />NOTE: I’m going to say IF a lot, which I know a lot of you don’t like. The reason I’m doing this is because I don’t want you to know if I think he’s alive or not. I want you all to use your own intuition. YES that part is very important. I think everyone here wants him to be alive. But, I think we should all work together on exposing and figuring out the common denominator for all this- The Illuminati. Because even if they didn’t get him, they’re still trying to and he’s still in danger. He wanted to help us see. I think we need to honor him, alive or dead and HELP HIM this time. <br /><br />Now, a little investigating can eliminate number 3. His own family believes he was murdered and Murray was the “fall guy.” Michael knew what was happening. He knew they were against him. He told so many people they were trying to kill him. He wouldn’t eat or drink because they were trying to poison him. (This is where the rumors came from that he wasn’t eating.) Michael’s records were number one ALL OVER THE WORLD. Everywhere except America, that is. The American government is filled with the most corrupt, power hungry elites of all. They despise Michael Jackson and everything he stands for. Michael spoke of this on numerous occasions, many of which can be found on youtube. He is even quoted in a video saying his records were number one all over the world, except for America. When asked why he said, “I don’t wanna say too much, there’s a conspiracy, I don’t wanna say too much. I’m done.”  The American government has depopulation plans. They study a religion called Eugenics. They plan to kill off a majority of our world’s population using genocide. Michael planned to expose this and many other NWO tactics, which is why many believe he was killed before he got the chance. This is all done behind the curtain. Nobody knows who REALLY runs this country. Much like Murray, the president and visible government are the FALL GUYS. They read from teleprompters and do what they are told. Presidents who fail to comply are killed.  <br /><br />The reason I did not include that this was all a game or “The greatest show on earth” as a theory is because it’s not at all like that. Sure, if Michael comes back, I’m sure it will be THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH. But that was not why he did what he did, if he did. I believe that whole thing was a distraction.<br /><br />We’re all one. We all have a common denominator. Let’s stop trying to get people to believe he alive or believe he’s dead. Because the truth is, those of you who think he’s alive have so much passion and intuition that there is no talking you out of it. And those of you who believe he’s dead are the same way. Go with your own intuition. But, Michael tried so hard to expose what they are doing to us. And he may have paid the ultimate price for trying to share his knowledge. Let’s expose these people!<br /><br />PLEASE do your research. PLEASE look up everything mentioned on here if you are not already familiar with it. <br />If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share. <br /><br />I love you all. <br />We can do this. <br /><br /><br />"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."<br /><br />

<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Welcome empyreal, i would like to read their knowledge i have a very open mind

alfarle

on 1322959224:

<br />"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."<br /><br /><br />I've been observing this forum for some time now. We’re a group of investigators, right? Let’s do some hardcore investigating together. Let’s combine forces and make this investigation huge. I noticed a majority of you believe Michael faked his death to escape the Illuminati and protect his family. I’m extremely pleased that this investigation has awoken so many of you the facts. The world is not what we thought it was, is it? The way I see it, the “hoax” can be split three ways:<br /><br />1. The “Illuminati” were trying to kill Michael (as he told many people) and he out thought them and managed to escape, saving himself and his family. <br />2. Michael did not out think the Illuminati and they killed him.<br />3. Dr. Murray was responsible for his death. The Illuminati wasn’t involved. <br /><br />NOTE: I’m going to say IF a lot, which I know a lot of you don’t like. The reason I’m doing this is because I don’t want you to know if I think he’s alive or not. I want you all to use your own intuition. YES that part is very important. I think everyone here wants him to be alive. But, I think we should all work together on exposing and figuring out the common denominator for all this- The Illuminati. Because even if they didn’t get him, they’re still trying to and he’s still in danger. He wanted to help us see. I think we need to honor him, alive or dead and HELP HIM this time. <br /><br />Now, a little investigating can eliminate number 3. His own family believes he was murdered and Murray was the “fall guy.” Michael knew what was happening. He knew they were against him. He told so many people they were trying to kill him. He wouldn’t eat or drink because they were trying to poison him. (This is where the rumors came from that he wasn’t eating.) Michael’s records were number one ALL OVER THE WORLD. Everywhere except America, that is. The American government is filled with the most corrupt, power hungry elites of all. They despise Michael Jackson and everything he stands for. Michael spoke of this on numerous occasions, many of which can be found on youtube. He is even quoted in a video saying his records were number one all over the world, except for America. When asked why he said, “I don’t wanna say too much, there’s a conspiracy, I don’t wanna say too much. I’m done.”  The American government has depopulation plans. They study a religion called Eugenics. They plan to kill off a majority of our world’s population using genocide. Michael planned to expose this and many other NWO tactics, which is why many believe he was killed before he got the chance. This is all done behind the curtain. Nobody knows who REALLY runs this country. Much like Murray, the president and visible government are the FALL GUYS. They read from teleprompters and do what they are told. Presidents who fail to comply are killed.  <br /><br />The reason I did not include that this was all a game or “The greatest show on earth” as a theory is because it’s not at all like that. Sure, if Michael comes back, I’m sure it will be THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH. But that was not why he did what he did, if he did. I believe that whole thing was a distraction.<br /><br />We’re all one. We all have a common denominator. Let’s stop trying to get people to believe he alive or believe he’s dead. Because the truth is, those of you who think he’s alive have so much passion and intuition that there is no talking you out of it. And those of you who believe he’s dead are the same way. Go with your own intuition. But, Michael tried so hard to expose what they are doing to us. And he may have paid the ultimate price for trying to share his knowledge. Let’s expose these people!<br /><br />PLEASE do your research. PLEASE look up everything mentioned on here if you are not already familiar with it. <br />If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share. <br /><br />I love you all. <br />We can do this. <br /><br /><br />"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."<br />

<br /><br /><br />This is a great post. A lot to think about. I have been watching this youtuber who is of the Muslim belief, and they basically point all of the significance behind Michael Jackson's videos ....a lot of things that I would have NEVER caught on to if it weren't for this "hoax" case scenario. Anywho, I questioned the owner of the page about the CD covers of Blood on the Dance Floor, AND the "Michael" cd, and they basically told me that the illuminati made the Michael CD just to mess with our heads. That left me totally confused. Not only that, but the fact that the owner of this youtube page is adamant in their belief that MJ is indeed gone. Other than that, the main thing that left me confused is that if the Illuminati produced the cover of the Michael cd, why would they leave so many clues as to MJ being alive? 

paula-c

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on 1322959631:

<br />This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.<br />

<br /><br />Well that's pretty insulting to the members that have been investigating this very same topic for 2 years already on here. <br />

<br /><br /><br /><br />It is true there are members with a good analytical mind and with good research

empyreal

@alfarle I've thought about that over and over again. These people are extremely crafty. Let's say they did manage to kill Michael. They could easily make it seem like a hoax to cover their tracks. And since everything is eerily similar to Elvis's death (which a LOT of people believe is a hoax) it would make it even more believable. Everything they do is closely connected with their numerology, which we've seen a LOT of during this whole ordeal. Kind of like this.. http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm

empyreal

@Souza I'm sorry, please don't be offended. I know you've been here from the start, and I commend you for being so devoted. There are a lot of extremely intelligent people on here and I completely understand that the newbie has to earn their rep.

RK

If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share.

<br /><br />I'm listening. [size=12pt]They[/size] have always seemed a somewhat large group, and vague and ambiguous.  We tend to only see the ones being manipulated by the attached strings. If this will indeed bring greater clarity and understanding, then let's do this.

scorpionchik

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on 1322959631:

<br />This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.<br />

<br /><br />Well that's pretty insulting to the members that have been investigating this very same topic for 2 years already on here. <br />

<br /><br />EXACTLY!  <br /><br />@empyreal<;br />"PLEASE do your research. PLEASE look up everything mentioned on here if you are not already familiar with it. <br />If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share."<br /><br />Good morning America........Do we have another mister/miss X?  You have a lot of knowledge, good for you, just jump in and share it. We are allowing u since research has been done already and we are kinda resting.

Souza

Just to clarify: my comment was mainly directed at Magic_Love_4U (see quote).

Australian MJ BeLIEver

have noticed an influx of newbies in the past few weeks. (have no freedom of speech as i am only 3 months at this site - plus one as a guest, so 4 months in total...)<br /><br />but yeah, just saying... lots of new people are signing up. in my opinion, there is incredible research here from many wonderful minds in this forum. i think its VERY important for newbies to go back and read the archived info before sharing theories.. remember this is 2 years of real time info to catch up on. so it will take a while to get through it and then even more time to try digest and comprehend the info....<br /><br />it really is quite important. i dedicate half of my forum time everyday, to read old posts.

all4loveandbelieve

on 1322959631:

<br />This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.<br />I agree with you, and it should be the focus.<br />

<br /><br />Ah! really? Thank you, I have been in this forum for 2 yrs, and others have done wonderful investigations. I feel that you haven't read everything in this forum.. It is a little insulting to us that have been here for a very long time. I welcome you to this forum, and looking forward in reading your posts. Maybe you can come up with more accurate informations.. blessings.

empyreal

Alright let me clear a few things up quick. <br /><br />1. I'm not claiming to be a Miss/Mr X. Haha I'm just a regular 17 year old. <br />2. I'm a newbie to this account. But I'm certainly no newbie to the information I've been studying since I was 13. (Illuminati, NWO) When the news said Michael died I instantly wanted to figure out what happened, because instinctively I thought of the Illuminati first. I've only lurked this forum for a few months, though.<br />3. I feel bad that the people who have been here a long time are getting offended. I don't want any tension all I wanted to do is start an group where everyone has a common denominator to work on. Where there would be no "he's alive / he's dead" fights. <br /><br />These people either killed Michael or they're after him. Don't you want to just get to the bottom of it? I know for a fact that I don't like these people. I want them exposed. I want the whole world to know. Let's pretend we're all equal on this forum. Pretend we all signed up on exactly the same date. Or we can just forget sign up dates. We can all just work together on this. For Michael and for the world.

Dontwalkaway

I think you are right empyreal.  We need to expose them in order to help Michael and also The World.  Let's do it.

scorpionchik

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<br />Alright let me clear a few things up quick. <br /><br />1. I'm not claiming to be a Miss/Mr X. Haha I'm just a regular 17 year old. <br />2. I'm a newbie to this account. But I'm certainly no newbie to the information I've been studying since I was 13. (Illuminati, NWO) When the news said Michael died I instantly wanted to figure out what happened, because instinctively I thought of the Illuminati first. I've only lurked this forum for a few months, though.<br />3. I feel bad that the people who have been here a long time are getting offended. I don't want any tension all I wanted to do is start an group where everyone has a common denominator to work on. Where there would be no "he's alive / he's dead" fights. <br /><br />These people either killed Michael or they're after him. Don't you want to just get to the bottom of it? I know for a fact that I don't like these people. I want them exposed. I want the whole world to know. Let's pretend we're all equal on this forum. Pretend we all signed up on exactly the same date. Or we can just forget sign up dates. We can all just work together on this. For Michael and for the world. <br />

<br /><br />I personally am not offended teen. You are got late in here to suggest to study illuminati whereas that homework has been passed already. You and I, and Michael J Jackson along with his Army of Love cannot fight against army of illuminaty chatting about it on this forum or even trying to do something.<br />Expose? they have been exposed long time ago, we have  journalist video who has been studying and following illuminati for years. There are videos, books, articles about them out there. It is not a secret.<br />Someone tried to kill MJ and I believe he is alive and escaped with no return. Simple.<br />Your turn without preface.

ilovemjforever

on 1322963814:

<br />@alfarle I've thought about that over and over again. These people are extremely crafty. Let's say they did manage to kill Michael. They could easily make it seem like a hoax to cover their tracks. And since everything is eerily similar to Elvis's death (which a LOT of people believe is a hoax) it would make it even more believable. Everything they do is closely connected with their numerology, which we've seen a LOT of during this whole ordeal. Kind of like this.. http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm<br />

I have to agree.This people are very crafty,as well as powerful.Although i believe Michael outsmarted them,i still realize there is a chance that they could be the ones doing the hoaxing.I just cant get it out of my head,that these people own the media,but yet they televise the trial,knowing that M.J faked his death.That does not add up to me.What if there reason for the hoax,is to distract us and keep us occupied,while they are ironing out their plan for the NWO.Don't get me wrong i believe that Michael is alive,but i choose to be open to the possibility that maybe we are being tricked by the puppet masters.Remember they are the masters of deception.

Dontwalkaway

It may not be a secret but in my opinion not many people have woken up.  They don't really know about it or they don't believe it.  If it gets to the main stream media it may wake more people up.  If it is about a big star then more people will pay attention.    I think that is the goal.

empyreal

Without preface? Ma'am, you suggested that I might be another "Mr/Miss X" so I clarified and explained who I am. I understand this is frustrating and you've been at it a long time but please don't snap at me just because I'm new to this username, and a teenager. I don't have the mindset of a teenager so that should be all that matters. Otherwise, you don't know me at all. If I hadn't said my age you'd never know and you wouldn't be able to discriminate and call me "teen". Actually, you said some judgmental things right off the bat, before I even mentioned my age. I'm not sure what I did to make you mad but I'm sorry that it led to this. I know I'd never discriminate against you, especially for your age. <br /><br />As far as them being exposed, of course many people have tried. And there is a little bit of exposure. But there are still a lot of people who don't have a clue. My mission isn't over until the world knows. Also, I wasn't claiming that could fight against them by "chatting in this forum." I know there's so much work to do that it's nearly impossible. NEARLY. I came here first because I know you all are a bunch of intelligent people. I also mentioned in the first post that I was happy a lot of you already know about the Illuminati. I knew you guys already studied it. But it's not over. So I don't think I'm late. It's never too late. <br /><br />I hate arguing. Let's just be friends? We're both fighting the good fight. We have no reason to not get along. <br /><br /> bearhug<br />

scorpionchik

You want to say you are mature for your age. Good for you or may be not for different reasons. But that's off the topic. What is your theory of hoax and its connection to illuminati, and who are they in relation to Michael?

alfarle

on 1322963814:

<br />@alfarle I've thought about that over and over again. These people are extremely crafty. Let's say they did manage to kill Michael. They could easily make it seem like a hoax to cover their tracks. And since everything is eerily similar to Elvis's death (which a LOT of people believe is a hoax) it would make it even more believable. Everything they do is closely connected with their numerology, which we've seen a LOT of during this whole ordeal. Kind of like this.. http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm<br />

<br /><br />Wow....I've never thought about it from that perspective. Great observation. I really do hope he beat them to the punch. But besides the fact that the Illuminati could be indeed playing with us mentally and emotionally, yet and still, his family throws off a lot of clues. They do keep saying that he was "murdered"...just like Jimmi Hendrix was murdered(illuminati involved)...tupac and so forth. Sigh.....I know why, without really KNOWING "why". It's crazy how I even had a dream last night that everyone in the world finally found out the truth. If it were only that easy. We just have to keep researching for the truth with 3rd eye, third ear, and hearts and minds open.

alfarle

on 1322971053:

<br />Alright let me clear a few things up quick. <br /><br />1. I'm not claiming to be a Miss/Mr X. Haha I'm just a regular 17 year old. <br />2. I'm a newbie to this account. But I'm certainly no newbie to the information I've been studying since I was 13. (Illuminati, NWO) When the news said Michael died I instantly wanted to figure out what happened, because instinctively I thought of the Illuminati first. I've only lurked this forum for a few months, though.<br />3. I feel bad that the people who have been here a long time are getting offended. I don't want any tension all I wanted to do is start an group where everyone has a common denominator to work on. Where there would be no "he's alive / he's dead" fights. <br /><br />These people either killed Michael or they're after him. Don't you want to just get to the bottom of it? I know for a fact that I don't like these people. I want them exposed. I want the whole world to know. Let's pretend we're all equal on this forum. Pretend we all signed up on exactly the same date. Or we can just forget sign up dates. We can all just work together on this. For Michael and for the world.<br />

<br /><br /><br />I really like the way you mediate and think. Your aura so far is very refreshing about the topic because I'm starting to observe that some on here aren't even really entitled to their OWN opinion without getting called out on it or cyberly jumped on . It's a serious conversation piece and research but shouldn't be serious  to the point where offensiveness takes place. We should ALL be in this TOGETHER as MJ would want it...as ONE. It's all for L.O.V.E. and that's the way we should speak to each other....with love. So thanks for the fact on that matter. And thanks for being so persistent and optimistic about your pursuit of exposing the evil doers in this case. #Welcome! bearhug 

alfarle

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<br />@alfarle I've thought about that over and over again. These people are extremely crafty. Let's say they did manage to kill Michael. They could easily make it seem like a hoax to cover their tracks. And since everything is eerily similar to Elvis's death (which a LOT of people believe is a hoax) it would make it even more believable. Everything they do is closely connected with their numerology, which we've seen a LOT of during this whole ordeal. Kind of like this.. http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm<br />

I have to agree.This people are very crafty,as well as powerful.Although i believe Michael outsmarted them,i still realize there is a chance that they could be the ones doing the hoaxing.I just cant get it out of my head,that these people own the media,but yet they televise the trial,knowing that M.J faked his death.That does not add up to me.What if there reason for the hoax,is to distract us and keep us occupied,while they are ironing out their plan for the NWO.Don't get me wrong i believe that Michael is alive,but i choose to be open to the possibility that maybe we are being tricked by the puppet masters.Remember they are the masters of deception.<br />

<br /><br />I too believe he is alive. I will stand by that til the day I die. haha. But you're right...."what if"? It's a HUGE puzzle that we have yet to figure out and there is still yet sooooo much for us to learn ...even outside of the topic of the Illuminati . The owners of that youtube page I described seemed to have so much inside info as for what certain videos meant, and were SO stagnant in their belief that MJ was dead, I was just nearly laughed at when I spoke on MJ being alive. They still spoke with love being of the Muslim belief so that made me feel a bit better and a bit open minded to the fact that the Illuminati could indeed be a part of this hoax. It's always good to keep an open mind to BOTH sides of where things could be coming from. We have to have eyes like a fly....Millions of visions. haha.  :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: :? 8-)