MIchael Jackson Fans Turn Death House Auction Into Makeshift Shrine

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MIchael Jackson Fans Turn Death House Auction Into Makeshift Shrine<br /><br />12/12/2011 8:45 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF<br /><br /> 1212-michael-jackson-bed-1.jpg<br /><br /><br />The contents of the bedroom where Michael Jackson died are now on display at an auction house in Beverly Hills -- and though the actual death bed was pulled from the event, fans have erected a makeshift memorial in the spot where it was supposed to be displayed. <br /><br />As TMZ previously reported, the bed from the Holmby Hills mansion was yanked from the auction block after the MJ Estate stepped in and asked Julien's Auctions to remove it from the event. <br /><br />Julien's obliged -- but just about every other item from the house, including tables, chairs and a mirror featuring a message scribbled by MJ himself -- can be yours, if the price is right.  <br /><br />
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  • Snoopy71Snoopy71 Posts: 952
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    <br />MIchael Jackson Fans Turn Death House Auction Into Makeshift Shrine<br /><br />12/12/2011 8:45 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF<br /><br /> 1212-michael-jackson-bed-1.jpg<br /><br /><br />The contents of the bedroom where Michael Jackson died are now on display at an auction house in Beverly Hills -- and though the actual death bed was pulled from the event, fans have erected a makeshift memorial in the spot where it was supposed to be displayed. <br /><br />As TMZ previously reported, the bed from the Holmby Hills mansion was yanked from the auction block after the MJ Estate stepped in and asked Julien's Auctions to remove it from the event. <br /><br />Julien's obliged -- but just about every other item from the house, including tables, chairs and a mirror featuring a message scribbled by MJ himself -- can be yours, if the price is right.  <br /><br /><br />
    <br /><br />Wow....are these the things the family didn't collect on moving day? Or things they donated? :?<br /><br /><br />Some of those things look like fan gifts! :shock:......that's messed up, I hope that's just a display table  suspicious//
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Interesting that the bed was the only object pulled from the event.
  • blankieblankie Posts: 2,350
    I do not understand this type of interest.... :(  ???/  ::) Really..... :| :roll:
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Obviously not take all the personal things by Michael in the removal two days after the June 25 and before the second time that the police make the registry rr/<br /><br />090627_jackson_moving_van.jpg
  • why would this auction house allow this ? i don't get it. what would be the benefit to the auction house to have people rambling around in there who more than likely have no chance in ???? purchasing anything and that some of the real buyers might find it a nuisance ? i mean they are not talking about souvenir shop pricing here.<br /><br />i don't mean to be offencesive towards the everyday fan , but you know these people (the auction people) are only in it for one thing.
  • Snoopy71Snoopy71 Posts: 952
    Something caught my eye in the photographs of items to be auctioned. <br /><br />There was a Christmas tree placed by Juliens that was set up for fans to decorate.<br /><br /><br />Have a look at the ornaments :shock:<br /><br />smr1v8.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br />Does it remind you of anything?<br /><br /><br />nyva87.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br />I know Michael liked to keep Christmas decorations up in the house, and with Christmas coming, I can see why they would put up a tree...but who are these babies?<br /><br /><br />...I wonder who orchestrated the ornaments for this tree?!  suspicious//<br /><br /><br />I'm not sure what to make of it. :?<br /><br /><br /><br />http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/slideshow/michael-jackson-memorabilia-auction-15136950<br /><br />
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    So, Michael was supposedly found in the supine position on the floor, by his bed......per the paramedic report.  If that's true, then that's the actual rug he was found on.  It matches the pictures as well.  If that's the case.......pardon me but,  WTF??<br />are they thinking?  I take this as another ruse from TMZ to ruffle our already over-ruffled feathers.  Most people just look at it as another quirky MJ after-death story.  I believe we here are like Picasso, and see things just a little differently.  Stories like these are oddities that the public thrives on.  To us, they represent another facet in this overhoaxed-hoax.....another opportunity to see things for what they really are....hoaxed.  How many times have we seen stories like this?  The orange pants for sale?  The wig for sale?  The drain-hair for sale?  I would not be at all surprised if soon we see, "The MJ Death Mobile (aka ambulance)" up for auction......it's crazy.  I can just see Fire Station 71/LAFD "retiring" that ambulance from the fleet and auctioning it off....just like this house stuff.  <br />Anyways, that's my take on it lol......<br />hope you are all doing well this week......<br /><br />Blessings Always<br /><br />PS> good catch Snoopy71 : )
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    <br />So, Michael was supposedly found in the supine position on the floor, by his bed......per the paramedic report.  If that's true, then that's the actual rug he was found on.  It matches the pictures as well.  If that's the case.......pardon me but,  WTF??<br />are they thinking?  I take this as another ruse from TMZ to ruffle our already over-ruffled feathers.  Most people just look at it as another quirky MJ after-death story.  I believe we here are like Picasso, and see things just a little differently.  Stories like these are oddities that the public thrives on.  To us, they represent another facet in this overhoaxed-hoax.....another opportunity to see things for what they really are....hoaxed.  How many times have we seen stories like this?  The orange pants for sale?  The wig for sale?  The drain-hair for sale?  I would not be at all surprised if soon we see, "The MJ Death Mobile (aka ambulance)" up for auction......it's crazy.  I can just see Fire Station 71/LAFD "retiring" that ambulance from the fleet and auctioning it off....just like this house stuff.  <br />Anyways, that's my take on it lol......<br />hope you are all doing well this week......<br /><br />Blessings Always<br /><br />PS> good catch Snoopy71 : )<br />
    <br /><br />[size=10pt]Hy Wish  :) !! I understand very well what you say,and I found also very odd this.I hope that the ITEMS you just wrote above will not go to the auction also  :lol:.But you will never know,lol,with this hoax everything is possible  albino/ .Maybe next time they will auction even the Gates with the Christmas wreaths ,lol,that would be even crazier  :shock: .<br />[/size]<br /><br />wenn5315726.jpg<br /><br />[size=10pt]Now what I wan to discuss is the TITLE of the article:  MIchael Jackson Fans Turn Death House Auction Into Makeshift Shrine :? . The words Markeshift SHRINE sounds very disturbing to me  :? . Let's see what a shrine really means:<br />[/size]<br /><br />[size=10pt]A shrine (Latin: scrinium "case or chest for books or papers"; Old French: escrin "box or case")[1] is a holy or sacred place, which is dedicated to a specific deity, ancestor, hero, martyr, saint, daemon or similar figure of awe and respect, at which they are venerated or worshipped. Shrines often contain idols, relics, or other such objects associated with the figure being venerated  :?  :? .[2] A shrine at which votive offerings are made is called an altar. Shrines are found in many of the world's religions, including Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, Chinese folk religion and Shinto, as well as in secular and non-religious settings such as a war memorial.[3] Shrines can be found in various settings, such as churches, temples, cemeteries, or in the home, although portable shrines are also found in some cultures.[4]<br /><br />A shrine may become a focus of a cult image.<br /><br />Religious shrines<br />Shrines are found in most, though not all, religions. As distinguished from a temple, a shrine usually houses a particular relic or cult image, which is the object of worship or veneration, or is constructed to set apart a site which is thought to be particularly holy, as opposed to being placed for the convenience of worshippers. Shrines therefore attract the practice of pilgrimage.<br /><br />Hinduism<br />In Hinduism, a shrine is a place where a god or goddess is worshipped. Shrines are typically located inside a temple known as a mandir, though many Hindus also have a household shrine as well. Sometimes a human is venerated at a Hindu shrine along with a deity, for instance the 19th century religious teacher Sri Ramakrishna is venerated at the Ramakrishna Temple in Kolkata, India.[/size]<br /><br />[size=10pt]To me is pretty clear that this kind of thigs already happened after 25 june 2009.I saw many of them on internet and TV.<br />I don't know who also reads this forum,but Pearl for sure does  :lol: .Recently I wrote something about Idols and legends who never die and live forever.I even put a picture of Donte Jackson about people who vail to some idols.To be more specific,I personally don't agree with this kind of things ,because I don't have any IDOLS,lol  :? .To worship anyone to my opinion is very disturbing and wrong.Now I think I understand why Michael did that BIG STATUE of himself on History tour ,lol and why Mohamed Al Fayed unveild that statue  :lol: this year.[/size]<br /><br />PA-104775141-310x415.jpg<br />23u252d.jpg<br /><br />[size=10pt]To me is pretty clear what this meas and I will not say anything except this  :( :[/size]<br /><br />tumblr_luw7vkUMJh1qjp3yqo1_500.jpg
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    <br />So, Michael was supposedly found in the supine position on the floor, by his bed......per the paramedic report.  If that's true, then that's the actual rug he was found on.  It matches the pictures as well.  If that's the case.......pardon me but,  WTF??<br />are they thinking?  I take this as another ruse from TMZ to ruffle our already over-ruffled feathers.  Most people just look at it as another quirky MJ after-death story.  I believe we here are like Picasso, and see things just a little differently.  Stories like these are oddities that the public thrives on.  To us, they represent another facet in this overhoaxed-hoax.....another opportunity to see things for what they really are....hoaxed.  How many times have we seen stories like this?  The orange pants for sale?  The wig for sale?  The drain-hair for sale?  I would not be at all surprised if soon we see, "The MJ Death Mobile (aka ambulance)" up for auction......it's crazy.  I can just see Fire Station 71/LAFD "retiring" that ambulance from the fleet and auctioning it off....just like this house stuff.  <br />Anyways, that's my take on it lol......<br />hope you are all doing well this week......<br /><br />Blessings Always<br /><br />PS> good catch Snoopy71 : )<br />
    <br /><br />[size=10pt]Hy Wish  :) !! I understand very well what you say,and I found also very odd this.I hope that the ITEMS you just wrote above will not go to the auction also  :lol:.But you will never know,lol,with this hoax everything is possible  albino/ .Maybe next time they will auction even the Gates with the Christmas wreaths ,lol,that would be even crazier  :shock: .<br />[/size]<br /><br />wenn5315726.jpg<br /><br />[size=10pt]Now what I wan to discuss is the TITLE of the article:  MIchael Jackson Fans Turn Death House Auction Into Makeshift Shrine :? . The words Markeshift SHRINE sounds very disturbing to me  :? . Let's see what a shrine really means:<br />[/size]<br /><br />[size=10pt]A shrine (Latin: scrinium "case or chest for books or papers"; Old French: escrin "box or case")[1] is a holy or sacred place, which is dedicated to a specific deity, ancestor, hero, martyr, saint, daemon or similar figure of awe and respect, at which they are venerated or worshipped. Shrines often contain idols, relics, or other such objects associated with the figure being venerated  :?  :? .[2] A shrine at which votive offerings are made is called an altar. Shrines are found in many of the world's religions, including Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, Chinese folk religion and Shinto, as well as in secular and non-religious settings such as a war memorial.[3] Shrines can be found in various settings, such as churches, temples, cemeteries, or in the home, although portable shrines are also found in some cultures.[4]<br /><br />A shrine may become a focus of a cult image.<br /><br />Religious shrines<br />Shrines are found in most, though not all, religions. As distinguished from a temple, a shrine usually houses a particular relic or cult image, which is the object of worship or veneration, or is constructed to set apart a site which is thought to be particularly holy, as opposed to being placed for the convenience of worshippers. Shrines therefore attract the practice of pilgrimage.<br /><br />Hinduism<br />In Hinduism, a shrine is a place where a god or goddess is worshipped. Shrines are typically located inside a temple known as a mandir, though many Hindus also have a household shrine as well. Sometimes a human is venerated at a Hindu shrine along with a deity, for instance the 19th century religious teacher Sri Ramakrishna is venerated at the Ramakrishna Temple in Kolkata, India.[/size]<br /><br />[size=10pt]To me is pretty clear that this kind of thigs already happened after 25 june 2009.I saw many of them on internet and TV.<br />I don't know who also reads this forum,but Pearl for sure does  :lol: .Recently I wrote something about Idols and legends who never die and live forever.I even put a picture of Donte Jackson about people who vail to some idols.To be more specific,I personally don't agree with this kind of things ,because I don't have any IDOLS,lol  :? .To worship anyone to my opinion is very disturbing and wrong[size=18pt].Now I think I understand why Michael did that BIG STATUE of himself on History tour [/size] ,lol and why Mohamed Al Fayed unveild that statue  :lol: this year.[/size]<br /><br />PA-104775141-310x415.jpg<br />23u252d.jpg<br /><br />[size=10pt]To me is pretty clear what this meas and I will not say anything except this  :( :[/size]<br /><br />tumblr_luw7vkUMJh1qjp3yqo1_500.jpg<br />
    could you share please as i have always been lost on this one.  i was just reading michael jackson tapes and shmuley seemed to suggest that he felt this move was the beginning of michaels fall from grace as one might say.
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    <br />Something caught my eye in the photographs of items to be auctioned. <br /><br />There was a Christmas tree placed by Juliens that was set up for fans to decorate.<br /><br /><br />Have a look at the ornaments :shock:<br /><br />smr1v8.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br />Does it remind you of anything?<br /><br /><br />nyva87.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br />I know Michael liked to keep Christmas decorations up in the house, and with Christmas coming, I can see why they would put up a tree...but who are these babies?<br /><br /><br />...I wonder who orchestrated the ornaments for this tree?!  suspicious//<br /><br /><br />I'm not sure what to make of it. :?<br /><br /><br /><br />http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/slideshow/michael-jackson-memorabilia-auction-15136950<br /><br /><br />
    didn't he say that he saw God in the faces of children? if so all the baby pics make sense to me. just like some have crosses and pics of Jesus or Mary.<br /><br /><br /><br />i also remember that one chick describing debbies apartment as a shrine to michael . ;)
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    @applehead....what a true statement about things being loved, and people being used.  It's a very sad state of mind when items replace the human existence.  There is way too much emphasis on what a person has rather than the amount of love in their heart.  I absolutely believe we are here for a better purpose than what we have become.......a world in chaos.  The love of hate that flows through the veins of so many is disrespectful to God and all that is holy.  It's sad. <br /> <br />Very interesting what you say about idols also.  So many never saw the irony in Michael's larger than life statue of himself.  He's the last person on earth to idolize himself.  Idols are an image of grandeur that most people just think as "fluff".  You make an excellent point of how dangerous an "idol" can become.  Raving fans that idolize Michael, or anyone, are not being true to themselves....and they don't even realize it.  <br /><br />A "fan shrine" like we see for Michael is another unnecessary reality.  I suppose I understand the first time on June 25th.  The shock of it all can be overwhelming.  People need to express themselves.  Sometimes the mere act of setting out a flower or lighting candle is their way of saying, "I love you".  However, to repeat this and repeat this and repeat this.....too much. <br /> <br />OMGosh....tell me the gates and wreaths aren't going to "auctioned"...... :roll: I can see it happening, unfortunately.  Who in their right mind, would want something like that?  I love Christmas decorations, however, if I truly believed Michael was dead....I couldn't have these around me.  Another blatant attempt at 1) making money off all things MJ 2) another example of how people place more value on objects than love of others.  <br /><br />Great post applehead....thank you for all that information on shrines/idols etc. It's indeed a sad state we are in.  <br />Have a most beautiful day!  You're awesome.  <br /><br />Blessings Always
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    <br />@applehead....what a true statement about things being loved, and people being used.  It's a very sad state of mind when items replace the human existence.  There is way too much emphasis on what a person has rather than the amount of love in their heart.  I absolutely believe we are here for a better purpose than what we have become.......a world in chaos.  The love of hate that flows through the veins of so many is disrespectful to God and all that is holy.  It's sad. <br /> <br />Very interesting what you say about idols also.  So many never saw the irony in Michael's larger than life statue of himself.  He's the last person on earth to idolize himself.  Idols are an image of grandeur that most people just think as "fluff".  You make an excellent point of how dangerous an "idol" can become.  Raving fans that idolize Michael, or anyone, are not being true to themselves....and they don't even realize it.  <br /><br />A "fan shrine" like we see for Michael is another unnecessary reality.  I suppose I understand the first time on June 25th.  The shock of it all can be overwhelming.  People need to express themselves.  Sometimes the mere act of setting out a flower or lighting candle is their way of saying, "I love you".  However, to repeat this and repeat this and repeat this.....too much. <br /> <br />OMGosh....tell me the gates and wreaths aren't going to "auctioned"...... :roll: I can see it happening, unfortunately.  Who in their right mind, would want something like that?  I love Christmas decorations, however, if I truly believed Michael was dead....I couldn't have these around me.  Another blatant attempt at 1) making money off all things MJ 2) another example of how people place more value on objects than love of others.  <br /><br />Great post applehead....thank you for all that information on shrines/idols etc. It's indeed a sad state we are in.  <br />Have a most beautiful day!  You're awesome.  <br /><br />Blessings Always<br />
    <br />wishingstar your post helped to make applehead's clearer for me . thank you. <br />i have noticed how michael doesn't mind so much to use a little bit of ''bragging rights" when referring to some achievement or such, but when someone else starts to speak about him in that manner he seems to get all sorts of uncomfortable.
  • I really don´t know what to think of this. :o Put a christmas tree there,why????? It doesn´t make any sence to me. /scream/
  • Snoopy71Snoopy71 Posts: 952
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    <br />I really don´t know what to think of this. :o Put a christmas tree there,why????? It doesn´t make any sence to me. /scream/<br />
    <br /><br />Well, I guess it could be interpreted two ways.<br /><br />1) Since the auction is being held during Christmas season, they decided to add a tree in celebration of the holidays.<br /><br /> or <br /><br />2) Juliens knew of Michael's love for Christmas and decided to add a Christmas tree in remembrance for fans to decorate.<br /><br /><br />....It is strange though that they didn't include the wreaths hanging from the gates... unless they simply aren't pictured.  :?<br /><br />
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    The shrine of the king of pop, ..that died on June 25, 2009, it is as well
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    <br />I just feel sad for these people who loved Michael so much, and they want to be near anything that touched him, to slightly ease the real pain in their hearts (I've felt it myself when I thought he was dead). But if they took the time to investigate they would know and believe that he is still alive.  The hoax information is readily available to anyone making a 5 minute search. But of course MJ has sent out disinformation people like Karen Faye to spearhead the "true" horrors of his death, and how deluded we hoaxers are; the family also. Throughout history much loved individuals have inspired followers set up shrines/worship centres, so that's nothing new, just human nature.  It gives them a sense that they are somehow reaching the revered dead one supernaturally, and gaining God's blessing on them for personal needs.  If MJ was truly dead, I could easily see a new religion started and growing into the next generation (see the many shrine-like websites).  But he's alive, and sees all this, with a bit of a smile on his face.  He knows what's going on, and it's all part of the plan.<br /><br /><br />Wishingstar, also the syringe was for sale.  Another suggestion for an article to sell-- the stained shirt in the closet!
  • MaryKMaryK Posts: 1,732
    I feel sad for them, too....<br /><br />You know, when I imagine being a "regular" fan, thinking that he´s dead, I would not be able to ease my pain with that.<br />Just walking on that carpet that the paramedics (allegedly  :mrgreen:) laid him down on at the foot of the bed would make me throw up, scream and cry...all at the same time.<br />These fans are really torturing themselves  :(
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    Here is the main link to Julien's:<br /><br />http://www.juliensauctions.com/<br /><br />Seems to be a lot more info....<br /><br />Thanks for syringe remembrance MJonmind....so many items!!!  <br /><br />Blessings
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    <br />So, Michael was supposedly found in the supine position on the floor, by his bed......per the paramedic report.  If that's true, then that's the actual rug he was found on.  It matches the pictures as well.  If that's the case.......pardon me but,  WTF??<br />are they thinking?  I take this as another ruse from TMZ to ruffle our already over-ruffled feathers.  Most people just look at it as another quirky MJ after-death story.  I believe we here are like Picasso, and see things just a little differently.  Stories like these are oddities that the public thrives on.  To us, they represent another facet in this overhoaxed-hoax.....another opportunity to see things for what they really are....hoaxed.  How many times have we seen stories like this?  The orange pants for sale?  The wig for sale?  The drain-hair for sale?  I would not be at all surprised if soon we see, "The MJ Death Mobile (aka ambulance)" up for auction......it's crazy.  I can just see Fire Station 71/LAFD "retiring" that ambulance from the fleet and auctioning it off....just like this house stuff.  <br />Anyways, that's my take on it lol......<br />hope you are all doing well this week......<br /><br />Blessings Always<br /><br />PS> good catch Snoopy71 : )<br />
    <br /><br />[size=10pt]Hy Wish  :) !! I understand very well what you say,and I found also very odd this.I hope that the ITEMS you just wrote above will not go to the auction also  :lol:.But you will never know,lol,with this hoax everything is possible  albino/ .Maybe next time they will auction even the Gates with the Christmas wreaths ,lol,that would be even crazier  :shock: .<br />[/size]<br /><br />wenn5315726.jpg<br /><br />[size=10pt]Now what I wan to discuss is the TITLE of the article:  MIchael Jackson Fans Turn Death House Auction Into Makeshift Shrine :? . The words Markeshift SHRINE sounds very disturbing to me  :? . Let's see what a shrine really means:<br />[/size]<br /><br />[size=10pt]A shrine (Latin: scrinium "case or chest for books or papers"; Old French: escrin "box or case")[1] is a holy or sacred place, which is dedicated to a specific deity, ancestor, hero, martyr, saint, daemon or similar figure of awe and respect, at which they are venerated or worshipped. Shrines often contain idols, relics, or other such objects associated with the figure being venerated  :?  :? .[2] A shrine at which votive offerings are made is called an altar. Shrines are found in many of the world's religions, including Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, Chinese folk religion and Shinto, as well as in secular and non-religious settings such as a war memorial.[3] Shrines can be found in various settings, such as churches, temples, cemeteries, or in the home, although portable shrines are also found in some cultures.[4]<br /><br />A shrine may become a focus of a cult image.<br /><br />Religious shrines<br />Shrines are found in most, though not all, religions. As distinguished from a temple, a shrine usually houses a particular relic or cult image, which is the object of worship or veneration, or is constructed to set apart a site which is thought to be particularly holy, as opposed to being placed for the convenience of worshippers. Shrines therefore attract the practice of pilgrimage.<br /><br />Hinduism<br />In Hinduism, a shrine is a place where a god or goddess is worshipped. Shrines are typically located inside a temple known as a mandir, though many Hindus also have a household shrine as well. Sometimes a human is venerated at a Hindu shrine along with a deity, for instance the 19th century religious teacher Sri Ramakrishna is venerated at the Ramakrishna Temple in Kolkata, India.[/size]<br /><br />[size=10pt]To me is pretty clear that this kind of thigs already happened after 25 june 2009.I saw many of them on internet and TV.<br />I don't know who also reads this forum,but Pearl for sure does  :lol: .Recently I wrote something about Idols and legends who never die and live forever.I even put a picture of Donte Jackson about people who vail to some idols.To be more specific,I personally don't agree with this kind of things ,because I don't have any IDOLS,lol  :? .To worship anyone to my opinion is very disturbing and wrong[size=18pt].Now I think I understand why Michael did that BIG STATUE of himself on History tour [/size] ,lol and why Mohamed Al Fayed unveild that statue  :lol: this year.[/size]<br /><br />PA-104775141-310x415.jpg<br />23u252d.jpg<br /><br />[size=10pt]To me is pretty clear what this meas and I will not say anything except this  :( :[/size]<br /><br />tumblr_luw7vkUMJh1qjp3yqo1_500.jpg<br />
    could you share please as i have always been lost on this one.  i was just reading michael jackson tapes and shmuley seemed to suggest that he felt this move was the beginning of michaels fall from grace as one might say.<br />
    <br /><br />[size=10pt]Suspicious mind I don't know why but I feel Michael was used by people all his life.When a human being is used he automatically becomes AN OBJECT,to make money or just for fun  :cry: .Michael did that statue of himself becasue he was BIG,I mean "VERY BIG" ,but it seems that in fact he was LITTLE for the people around him.Like he said to Smuley all he wanted is TO BE LOVED,nothing more,even if that meant to be a star or famous ,so that he could get that love from fans.From a small child he was used for making money,then later in life, maybe he realised that many people around him,were there just because he was THE KING OF POP.Can you imagine how he felt,can you imagine how it is to be a MACHINE that fuells the BUSSINESS,for the fucking money  :cry: ??? OMG so much pain, :cry: .Now that you talk about that book,all the tears are coming back to me,because I remember what Michael told Smuley.I'm sure that in the end Michael wanted to get rid of the KING OF POP stigma and he wanted to be loved for the person not for the personality.I remember how he told Smuley about people who meet him and how that people were so amazed how simple and humble he is in "real life".Some of them even started crying cause they thought,Michael would be arogant being the star he is.The problem with with people,even with me,is that WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE,UNTIL IS GONE  :cry:.We take the PEOPLE WE THINK WE LOVE FOR GRANTED,and when they are gone,it's to late to do something and we are stricken by pain  :cry: .Who knows maybe in the end Michael realised that the love he wanted from people and fans, was a selfish thing because,he had already "enough" .Out there are many,many people who doesen't have not even a 10 % of what he has now.In life you can't have all,life is not PERFECT,is something unreal.You can have a little bit from everything but not all.When you have money,you don't have love ,and when you have love ,maybe you don't have money.Like I said LIFE IS NOT PERFECT and we have to be HAPPY with what we have today,because "TOMORROW" ,may not even happen  :cry: .[/size]<br /><br />[size=10pt]I've Been A Victim Of A Selfish<br />Kind Of Love<br />It's Time That I Realize<br />That There Are Some With No<br />Home, Not A Nickel To Loan <br />Could It Be Really Me,<br />Pretending That They're Not<br />Alone?<br /><br />[/size]
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    I don't know what to make of this but I feel sad for those fans really.
  • emulikemulik Posts: 1,009
    @Applehead... /bravo/ you are absolutely right...perfect post!
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    [size=12pt]Despite only few of the items having a personal connection to the singer and his family, auctioneers are expecting an impressive turn out at the sale on Saturday. <br /><br />"Even though these weren't items that belonged to him, they were items that surrounded him in the final months of his life. Anything associated with Michael Jackson is highly collectible," said auctioneer Darren Julien[/size]<br /><br />There is no real personal items in that house....the family removed those items, days after MJ's death.<br /><br />The owner of the BelAir Mansion, is selling off these items, as the house was FULLY FURNISHED.
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    <br />[size=12pt]Despite only few of the items having a personal connection to the singer and his family, auctioneers are expecting an impressive turn out at the sale on Saturday. <br /><br />"Even though these weren't items that belonged to him, they were items that surrounded him in the final months of his life. Anything associated with Michael Jackson is highly collectible," said auctioneer Darren Julien[/size]<br /><br />There is no real personal items in that house....the family removed those items, days after MJ's death.<br /><br />The owner of the BelAir Mansion, is selling off these items, as the house was FULLY FURNISHED.<br />
    <br /><br />[size=12pt]"Even though these weren't items that belonged to him, they were items that surrounded him in the final months of his life. Anything associated with Michael Jackson is highly collectible,"[/size]<br /><br />[size=10pt]Like I said THINGS are being LOVED ,and PEOPLE USED!!! This is so sad but unfortunately true  :(  Even if that stuff were not Michael's people still wanted A PIECE of HIM,a piece of THINGS HE supposely THOUCHED  :?!!!!![/size]
  • skywaysskyways Posts: 745
    Ahhh Michael@@ - here we go on  CHRISTMAS SALE!!<br />I belive that Mr. Shrine STUDY human nature sooo well - and make Very sure that future of his children wl b Well Secure Before His official Passing and he even SIGN EVERY PIECE OF SOMEONELSE FURNITURE 4 Better Price!<br />LOL @ LOL
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    My search came up with this.<br /> <br /> MIchael Jackson Fans Turn Death House Auction Into Makeshift Shrine<br /> <br /> MIJ<br /> FT<br /> DH<br /> AIMS<br /> <br /> MIJ -> MI10 (j = 10th letter) <br /> FT = featuring<br /> DH = Dept of Health<br /> AIMS<br /> <br />
    MI10, or Military Intelligence, section 10, was a department of the British Directorate of Military Intelligence, part of the War Office. It was responsible for weapons and technical analysis during World War II. The group was merged into Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI10<br /> <br /> <br /> MIJ may also indicate MiJackson or MIJAC music.<br /> <br /> <br /> In any case this is not an article about fans and an auction.<br /> It is about a better place IMHO the more as it says MAKESHIFT - MAKE A CHANGE.<br /> That's what it says to me.<br /> <br />
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