EDIT.. "ANONYMOUS" HACKS INTO "SONYS ENTIRE CATALOG ".....

2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
edited January 2012 in News
http://isohunt.com/torrents/Michael+Jackson+FULL<br /><br />Taaj Malik just posted this on facebook............ ARE YOU HEARING ME!!!  <br /><br />http://isohunt.com/torrents/Michael+Jackson+FULL <br /><br /><br />Probably better be quick or it may be gone soon......Good luck and OMG....quick...I need a big USB stick  /bravo/ /bravo/<br /><br /><br />http://teammichaeljackson.com/anonymous-to-hack-sony-on-monday<br /><br />
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  • wish I knew how. I have bit torrent, dont know how to use it though !!
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    Maybe another member can help you...I have no idea either.........<br /><br />BUT BIGGER news is that Anonymous is on a war on the web.....<br /><br /><br /> [size=12pt]Spread the word and RT - FTC's "federal online security site" was hacked tonight by #Anonymous to support #opMegaupload[/size]<br /><br />https://twitter.com/#!/YourAnonNews
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    Maybe I'm ignorant of something here, but isn't it right that people should pay for entertainment in the way they did when they had to go off to the shops to buy 45s and videos? (Showing my age here!)<br /><br />Technology and the internet should not allow people to get hold of stuff for free, someone, somewhere, has to pay and I suspect it's ultimately the artists that suffer.
  • mjfansince4mjfansince4 Posts: 1,030
    this was on piratebay.com (another bit torrent site)........<br /><br />fzaeer.jpg<br /><br />shit is going down
  • emulikemulik Posts: 1,009
    on 1327392571:
    <br />this was on piratebay.com (another bit torrent site)........<br /><br />fzaeer.jpg<br /><br />shit is going down<br />
    <br /> /bravo/ that 4 and 5 years comparison sounds really bizzare!
  • what about when the record labels exploit the artist?
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    on 1327392171:
    <br />Maybe I'm ignorant of something here, but isn't it right that people should pay for entertainment in the way they did when they had to go off to the shops to buy 45s and videos? (Showing my age here!)<br /><br />Technology and the internet should not allow people to get hold of stuff for free, someone, somewhere, has to pay and I suspect it's ultimately the artists that suffer. <br />
    <br /><br />I do agree with you, but I also see Anonymous's point...  I will not be downloading anything from the free torrants, mainly because I am too scared to.  <br /><br />I just hope this action, proves a point, and shows that people do have a voice, and we do have power in numbers..................God bless to all.....Security sites have also been hacked....<br /><br />One poster wrote this on his wall  "KILLUMINATI"
  • /bravo/<br /><br />I love Annonymous - They kick ass!~
  • gwynnedgwynned Posts: 1,361
    on 1327392571:
    <br />this was on piratebay.com (another bit torrent site)........<br /><br />fzaeer.jpg<br /><br />shit is going down<br />
    <br /><br />Good catch.  Money is more valuable than a human life, I guess.<br /><br />Does anyone else find this Anonymous thing a little preposterous?  I am on their side (or on Michael's side :)), but I'm not buying the story.  Seems to me it's a cover story for a more clandestine operation to expose the truth to the world in a dramatic fashion.  After all, artists LIE to reveal the truth, no?
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    I am not jumping on that wagon.<br />The issue is more complex. In the web and elsewhere, companies are not bad and individuals are not good - per se. There are two sides to the medal and it is not black or white but grey and darkgrey.<br /><br />I do not agree that a whatever privately mixed youtube video with some underlaying music in only 80% quality is taken off the web or not authorized to be watched because "this and that has made copyright claims or did not agree to pay royalties". This is taking money for copies and not for the original and is exceeding common sense.<br />I also do not agree to include wikipedia e.g. into any royalties program. wikipedia is not a field to take / pay royalties since wikipedia is distributing common knowledge and is properly linking to origin and further information.<br /><br />I however fully agree that there is NO way that artists and their distributing companies are not getting paid for their originals that are being distributed illegally. There is intellectual property and there is a right to protect this from abuse and rights' infringement. The web is no free space for everything and also google has lost many lawsuits already for infringement of personal rights.<br /><br />Be careful to download. It is not only illegal in the U.S. <br />You might catch some malware in addition. Torrent sites are known for that.<br />Plus you never know who might be behind this and will store your IP address for whatever intention afterwards.<br /><br />For me, it is a natural component of an upright attitude to not go for illegal activities.<br />Michael would not have undertaken all those efforts for the Motown catalogues and supported all those artists if he would not have known that the music business and living of their craft and talents has become very difficult for artists. Many can not live from creating music.<br />In fact, the music industry was much dependent on Michael's comeback because business is doing so bad due to illegal internet activies. I have read statements that were indicating that they put their hopes on Michael to turn the market around.<br /><br />I am not jumping on that wagon and will buy my copies with my money.<br />Or else this music would not be worth anything, would it?
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    <br />what about when the record labels exploit the artist?<br />
    Amen,sister. /bravo/
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    on 1327392571:
    <br />this was on piratebay.com (another bit torrent site)........<br /><br />fzaeer.jpg<br /><br />shit is going down<br />
    <br /><br />Good catch.  Money is more valuable than a human life, I guess.<br /><br />Does anyone else find this Anonymous thing a little preposterous?  I am on their side (or on Michael's side :)), but I'm not buying the story.  Seems to me it's a cover story for a more clandestine operation to expose the truth to the world in a dramatic fashion.  After all, artists LIE to reveal the truth, no?<br />
    <br /><br />Wow! This is the 1st time I saw this pic! Its makes a great point.
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    <br />I am not jumping on that wagon.<br />The issue is more complex. In the web and elsewhere, companies are not bad and individuals are not good - per se. There are two sides to the medal and it is not black or white but grey and darkgrey.<br /><br />I do not agree that a whatever privately mixed youtube video with some underlaying music in only 80% quality is taken off the web or not authorized to be watched because "this and that has made copyright claims or did not agree to pay royalties". This is taking money for copies and not for the original and is exceeding common sense.<br />I also do not agree to include wikipedia e.g. into any royalties program. wikipedia is not a field to take / pay royalties since wikipedia is distributing common knowledge and is properly linking to origin and further information.<br /><br />I however fully agree that there is NO way that artists and their distributing companies are not getting paid for their originals that are being distributed illegally. There is intellectual property and there is a right to protect this from abuse and rights' infringement. The web is no free space for everything and also google has lost many lawsuits already for infringement of personal rights.<br /><br />Be careful to download. It is not only illegal in the U.S. <br />You might catch some malware in addition. Torrent sites are known for that.<br />Plus you never know who might be behind this and will store your IP address for whatever intention afterwards.<br /><br />For me, it is a natural component of an upright attitude to not go for illegal activities.<br />Michael would not have undertaken all those efforts for the Motown catalogues and supported all those artists if he would not have known that the music business and living of their craft and talents has become very difficult for artists. Many can not live from creating music.<br />In fact, the music industry was much dependent on Michael's comeback because business is doing so bad due to illegal internet activies. I have read statements that were indicating that they put their hopes on Michael to turn the market around.<br /><br />I am not jumping on that wagon and will buy my copies with my money.<br />Or else this music would not be worth anything, would it?<br />
    <br /><br />Great post, Grace. I fully agree.<br /><br />I support Anonymous if their only intent is to prove a point but I can't when they go to the extreme of allowing people to download music and entertainment for free when it normally would be paid for. It's no different than a mob running through a street vandalizing stores and stealing their merchandise.<br /><br />Blessings to all.
  • Topic<br />Stop Online Piracy Act<br /><br />Friday, Jan 20, 2012 10:19 PM 21:33:32 UTC+0100<br /> [size=12pt]Reid bows to online protest <br /><br />Protest against SOPA derails the Senate bill favored by the majority leader[/size]<br /><br />After Wednesday’s one-day  blackout of Wikipedia, Craigslist and scores of other sites to protest the House of Representatives’ Stop Online Piracy Act and its Senate companion, Protect IP Act; after Google’s collection of a reported 7 million petition signatures; after seven co-sponsors of the Senate bill repudiated it and dozens of other rejected it, attention turned to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a supporter of the legislation. What would he do in response to the historic digital outcry?<br /><br />On Friday morning, Reid settled the matter. “In light of recent events,” read a statement sent out by his office, “I have decided to postpone Tuesday’s vote on the PROTECT I.P. Act.”<br />
    http://www.salon.com/2012/01/20/reid_caves_in_response_to_online_protest/singleton/<br /><br />I must say I prefer Wikipedia's and Google's protest actions.<br /><br />Sue Gardner, executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation, said: <br />"The Wikimedia Foundation welcomes these developments. This is another step towards the ultimate destruction of these two pieces of proposed legislation. But let's be clear, these bills are not dead. They will return, and when they do, they must not harm the interests of the hundreds of millions of people who contribute to the free and open internet.<br />"The blackout was led by millions of ordinary internet users, and the people who make projects like Wikipedia possible - writers, photographers, editors and illustrators. They sent a clear message to Congress: don't mess with free expression, don't destroy the free and open Internet, don't do the bidding of traditional corporate interests. This is a moment in history when the people who create and share works on the internet as part of the free knowledge movement, and the people who depend on access to those works, are asking to be heard and to have their freedom of speech protected."<br />http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Statement_on_Jan_20_events_in_Washington<br />True,<br /><br />though...<br /><br />true too:<br /><br />
    Roughly 4 out of 5 digital music downloads in the U.S. are via P2P and other unauthorized services.<br />In the last 10 years, the major music labels' direct employment in the U.S. fell from about 25,000 people in 1999 to less than 10,000 today - a drastic reduction of over 60% in people who enable the creation and development of new music
    .<br />http://www.musicunited.org/1_whocares.aspx<br /><br />my thoughts are controversial on this matter. I'm against SOPA which controls and takes away our internet freedom, though musicians and artists (and I'm not talking about multi money making enterprises like Sony) should be protected against increasing internet piracy.<br /><br />Duff McKagan absolutely made a point here: <br /><br />
    <br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]Quit Whining About SOPA and PIPA. Where's the Public Outrage Over Internet Piracy?[/size]<br /><br />By Duff McKaganThu., Jan. 19 2012 at 5:30 AM<br />Sitting in my usual chair, watching my usual a.m. updates on CNN's Headline News, Wednesday morning, I, like every other American tuned in to at least one form of media, was inundated with verbiage about anti-piracy legislation known as PIPA and SOPA. <br /><br />The legislation's meant to combat theft of creative works like movies and music from overseas web sites. But when I turned to the Twitter and Facebook, I saw an overwhelming dog pile of support against the bills. Excuse me, but where were you all when piracy started to decimate the music industry? Why didn't you take a stand against that? Those free records felt good, huh?<br /> <br />The fury from the Internet class is that the broad language in the pieces of legislation will be bad for start-ups, might prevent the next YouTube, or give the government the ability to take down a whole site because of one link to copyrighted works. In short, they're opposed to the legislation because they think it will be bad for the Internet business. <br /><br />Bad for business. Anti-piracy legislation could be bad for the Internet business. It almost takes my breath away. Internet piracy has claimed half of the recorded music business, and made the prospect of making a living as a musician harder for artists of all rank and file. Why didn't Google, or Facebook, or Wikipedia ever stand in solidarity with musicians, actors, and writers - most of whom have never known fame and fortune - as their works were stolen with no recourse on their sites?<br /><br />Where are the "fans," the lovers of music? Why have they never stood up and taken a stand for the men and women in front of and behind the microphone? Yes, yes, this is all boring, right? It's typical that the "rich rock guy" would be spouting from his golden pulpit. But let me tell you something, the working stiffs at recording studios and record stores that have had to close thanks to rampant internet piracy never were rich, but they are out of a job.<br /><br />Are people really actually pissed off because Wikipedia is going "black" for a day? Because people feel that their First Amendment rights are really being threatened? Or is it because they're afraid of losing free access to Deadwood and the Black Keys? Or are they worried that the next YouTube won't be able to build a business model off the unwitting investment of copyrighted material that users uploaded for free while investors and start-ups glibly proclaimed that they couldn't be responsible for actions users took? Wikipedia has thousands of volunteers and brags that they keep the site's content accurate. Why can't they regulate more rigorously for copyright violation, too? Too much of a bother?<br /><br />Should the government be able to shut down Facebook because one user posts a link to copyrighted content? Of course not. But should Facebook and Google do a better job monitoring - and stop profiteering off- their users' access to illegal content? Absolutely. And, you know what, they're smart enough to figure it out. <br /><br />When it comes to creative industries, we're not talking in the hypothetical. Recording studios all around the world have had to close. So have record stores. Movie studios have suffered. Many, many jobs have been lost. Many peoples' livelihoods have been affected. The people who make or who have made money from record sales are not the "bad guy," the pirater and the stealer are. Period. So, where's the public outcry?<br /><br />As a practicing musician who has seen his industry turned upside down, and see how piracy has hurt every artist from chart-toppers to indie start-ups, this PIPA upheaval is a slap in the face.<br /><br />If, as the claim goes, the social media masses were able to overturn the regime in Egypt, they can certainly turn the tide on Internet piracy. <br />
    http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2012/01/quit_whining_about_sopa_and_pi.php<br /><br /><br />L.O.V.E.<br />
  • People had better get use to Anonymous because I don’t think they are leaving anytime soon.  They are becoming notorious and don’t hide behind idle chatter.  When they strike, they go for the jugular.
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    <br />People had better get use to Anonymous because I don’t think they are leaving anytime soon.  They are becoming notorious and don’t hide behind idle chatter.  When they strike, they go for the jugular.<br />
    <br /><br />
    [size=12pt]People had better get use to Anonymous because I don’t think they are leaving anytime soon  [/size]
    <br /><br />That's one of the reasons that I won't be a follower of Anonymous.
  • Whether one follows them or not doesn’t seem to deter them once their minds are made up.  So…
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    I do not believe that this " law " sopa/pipa is only to protect copyright or against piracy, they want to control the entire content on the internet, the cursed position believe the policemen of the world
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    <br />I do not believe that this " law " sopa/pipa is only to protect copyright or against piracy, they want to control the entire content on the internet, the cursed position believe the policemen of the world<br />
    <br /><br />Paula - I believe you are right. But there is a fine line and it appears as though Anonymous is crossing them unafraid.
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Violence never resolves an issue. It is clever negociating and convincing that clears path.<br /><br />You cannot go loot shops and distribute the goods you have stolen for free just because somebody had declared they wanted you to identify yourself the next time you wanna go shop.<br />Go tell them why it is nonsense to identify yourself in the future. Give them a reasoning with cost and profit, glue a price tag on the case with the names of blocked / consumed ressources, opportunity cost, required time, spent $$$ and you will see how many ideas will find their way back into a drawer or even better into storage S which is the shredder.<br /><br />Salespersons think in terms of their customer not in their own range. <br />That's how they sell garbage and make you happy with it.<br />Understand your vis-à-vis and you will get them do what you want.<br />The best of class know what the customer wants before the customer wants it.<br />That's the art of it.<br /><br />Clever beats power. Always.<br /><br />Nobody is helpless unless he has lost feet, hands and brain.
  • TinkTink Posts: 1,175
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    on 1327392171:
    <br />Maybe I'm ignorant of something here, but isn't it right that people should pay for entertainment in the way they did when they had to go off to the shops to buy 45s and videos? (Showing my age here!)<br /><br />Technology and the internet should not allow people to get hold of stuff for free, someone, somewhere, has to pay and I suspect it's ultimately the artists that suffer. <br />
    <br /><br />I do agree with you, but I also see Anonymous's point...  I will not be downloading anything from the free torrants, mainly because I am too scared to.  <br /><br />I just hope this action, proves a point, and shows that people do have a voice, and we do have power in numbers..................God bless to all.....Security sites have also been hacked....<br /><br />One poster wrote this on his wall  "KILLUMINATI"<br />
    <br /><br />I do hope you all realize, that this group calling itself "Anonymous" is a bunch of Pirates. What they've done, is HARM the artists, by releasing their music for free!<br /><br />They've also earned themselves multiple seats in Club Fed, for breaking countless Federal and Inter Country laws now. I have no love for them. Mark my words, they will be made an example of.
  • This SOPA  thing has MORE TO DO WITH FREEDOM OF ALTERNATE INTERNET. Once again if the government can shut down the alternate sources of internet, & only control what they want you to know... period..... This whole music piracy thing is "smoke & mirrors" for what they REALLY want to do. They want to shut down internet & the president sees fit. Just put the "kill switch" out there, & there goes any other souce of alternate media. Remember the government owns almost media... including You Tube, so if there's videos out there government may feel you'll be standing up for your rights,.........they just have You Tube pull it. The government tried slapping piracy violations against some music companies, & shut down companies while being investigated, which turned out to be bogus claims, it was just the way government operates, always outside the law, all criminal activity seems to go away. Why do you think China is rebelling? They already have sensored internet. And they know they are being lied to, so they are trying to find other ways to get true information. That is what our government wants for us. More rights being taken away, shut down ALTERNATE SOURCE OF INFORMATION. The government wants American's to get news information from their "paid sources" like MSNBC, FOX NEWS, ETC..... how dare we look else where .... we shoudl just believe what they tell us......don't question authority.....start being dumb down....you can think for yourself.....
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    on 1327470256:
    <br />This SOPA  thing has MORE TO DO WITH FREEDOM OF ALTERNATE INTERNET. Once again if the government can shut down the alternate sources of internet, & only control what they want you to know... period..... This whole music piracy thing is "smoke & mirrors" for what they REALLY want to do. They want to shut down internet & the president sees fit. Just put the "kill switch" out there, & there goes any other souce of alternate media. Remember the government owns almost media... including You Tube, so if there's videos out there government may feel you'll be standing up for your rights,.........they just have You Tube pull it. The government tried slapping piracy violations against some music companies, & shut down companies while being investigated, which turned out to be bogus claims, it was just the way government operates, always outside the law, all criminal activity seems to go away. Why do you think China is rebelling? They already have sensored internet. And they know they are being lied to, so they are trying to find other ways to get true information. That is what our government wants for us. More rights being taken away, shut down ALTERNATE SOURCE OF INFORMATION. The government wants American's to get news information from their "paid sources" like MSNBC, FOX NEWS, ETC..... how dare we look else where .... we shoudl just believe what they tell us......don't question authority.....start being dumb down....you can think for yourself.....<br />
    <br /><br /><br />Yes!  This is also what I think, Paula mentioned this as well.  I really don't think 'they' care about how many people in the industry such as musicians, writers, actors and others working in the field are becoming poorer.<br /><br /><br />I'm wondering what's going to happen to Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, and Kim Kardashian for their approval of Sopa, because they also have been warned that they're next (Operation Blackout and Mayhem).  (3rd video above)
  • TinkTink Posts: 1,175
    I think that fair use, when people say, use Youtube, and will either sing a favorite song, or use clips of a song, for real time things going on. Give them credit, and where to purchase the music. I also would feel better, if the person did pay the dollar for the song, so they aren't just pirating it blatantly.<br /><br />Just seems to me, people have talent they'd love to share, and they could put out videos of it, and then sell the music of studio quality in Itunes, along with merchandise. But their songs are their money, and they need to protect what they can.<br /><br />"Fair Use" needs to be defined, so children and grandparents don't get into trouble, posting births in their family, or showing pageants. Proud things done at school and church, shouldn't become something that the FBI comes after you for.<br /><br />We need to come to the table, and talk about what is fair use, and what is blatant theft, what is comedy, etc.<br />But assaulting Sony's catalog and giving it away to whomever wants to download it, that violates untold amounts of laws, including people downloading to their individual computer, handing it over to friends, sharing hard drives, then finding better things to to with "their money," when it belongs to the artists it was just stolen from!! Just because a Pirate says, "Come and take it, I'm making a point," doesn't mean I went around in Mercedes with helicopters watching, as people walked off what they felt they were entitled to from Best Buy from the RIOTs! Within a few days, people felt so guilty, they lefts the items on the curb, for the police to please, take it away, it was a mistake and I'd gotten carried away, so sorry! Same mentality going on with Anonymous with songs right now. Give it back, don't take part of it! Don't give them any reason to do something so disgusting again!<br /><br />I firmly believe that Anonymous SHOULD be held accountable for ALL the downloads they encouraged, while they were being Pirates! Disgusting display of Power!! I've been concerned about being online at all, as I don't want my computer absconded with, and used as part of this nightmare!<br /><br />Musicians should be paid for their music, every time it's downloaded to be listened too! Artists are starving, the award shows are when they rent dresses and tuxedos, to look like what they used to all the time. Never meant they lived big, but at least they had a home and a car!!
  • Musicians should be paid for their music, every time it's downloaded to be listened too! Artists are starving, the award shows are when they rent dresses and tuxedos, to look like what they used to all the time. Never meant they lived big, but at least they had a home and a car!!
    <br /><br />I think that most of the general public (me included) only sees the glitz and glam and we aren't shown much of the struggle because that doesn't abode well with the "image" that is trying to be portrayed.<br /><br />One thing that American Idol and X-Factor has done for me is awaken me to the fact that very few make it to a Michael Jackson or Diana Ross status. And fewer yet remain there. Most struggle to even be seen and some who are seen are only there for a very short time. It's a brutal life with little security.<br /><br />In fact, look at the Jacksons if you need any more proof. At one time they were on top of the world and yet most of them struggled to make ends meet in the industry that fed them well when they were younger. Look at the acts in the Casino's and lounges - you'll notice that it's the stars of yester-year who were once able to fill arena's and now can barely fill a casino room.<br /><br />It may be a smoke and mirror sort of demonstration but if it can't be done legally it shouldn't be done at all. That is just my humble opinion. I don't like censorship any more than the next person but I can't justify the means if it's done illegally.<br /><br />When people download that music from Sony, one needs to remember that they are ultimately stealing from Michael and his heirs. He's worked hard for what he has - shouldn't he also reap the rewards? I think so.<br /><br />As Marlon continues to say..."Study Peace".<br /><br />Blessings to each of you.
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