I am not going to read the whole thing for sure. The only words caught my eyes are THE END COMES SUDDENLY and THE UNFAITHFUL WILL BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE, & SUMMER IS NEAR. <br />IMO, this means someone WAS UNFAITHFUL that led to hoax the death and MJ will be back in summer of 2013 to 'take over' (4 years to make it right). Sounds like what I thought. Will see.
<br />I am not going to read the whole thing for sure. The only words caught my eyes are THE END COMES SUDDENLY and THE UNFAITHFUL WILL BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE, & SUMMER IS NEAR. <br />IMO, this means someone WAS UNFAITHFUL that led to hoax the death and MJ will be back in summer of 2013 to 'take over' (4 years to make it right). Sounds like what I thought. Will see.<br />
<br /><br />More like: those who didn't pay attention to the hoax and the signs Michael gave will be caught off-guard by his return.
<br />Can’t open this file on this dang computer :computer-losy-smiley: This must be a conspiracy :ghsdf: :Crash: :Crash: :computer-losy-smiley:<br />
<br /><br /><br />I know just how you feel, I was the same earlier today. Hope you managed to get there in the end.<br /><br /><br /> :icon_e_smile:<br /><br />L.O.V.E.<br />
<br />I am not going to read the whole thing for sure. The only words caught my eyes are THE END COMES SUDDENLY and THE UNFAITHFUL WILL BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE, & SUMMER IS NEAR. <br />IMO, this means someone WAS UNFAITHFUL that led to hoax the death and MJ will be back in summer of 2013 to 'take over' (4 years to make it right). Sounds like what I thought. Will see.<br />
<br /><br />More like: those who didn't pay attention to the hoax and the signs Michael gave will be caught off-guard by his return.<br />
<br /><br /><br />NO, I don't think Michael has intention to catch fans/people who believe that he passed away and do not listen to/catch his message. He has enemies whom he wants to surprise, not his fans. Haven't we heard his phone conversations about his concern? MJ loves all his fans-believers, non- believers, does not matter.
Can't deny the parallels and especially the time factor. Grace posted regarding three and a half years and TNZ in their latest twitter longer reminded me of of this three and a half year plan. Time times and half a time <br /><br />http://www.contactmusic.com/news/jackson-has-three-year-comeback-plan_1096999<br /><br />[size=18pt]JACKSON "HAS A THREE YEAR COMEBACK PLAN>"[/size]<br /><br />posted 06 March 2009<br /><br />MICHAEL JACKSON's comeback is expected to extend past his initial ten-date residency in London - he has a $400 million (£283 million), three-year plan to re-conquer the world.<br /><br />The King of Pop faced thousands of fans on Thursday (05Mar09) to announce his short residency at the O2 Arena in July (09).<br /><br />Jackson told the crowd and a gallery of reporters that the shows - dubbed "This Is It" - would be his last performances ever in the U.K.<br /><br />But representatives for concert promoter AEG have revealed the Thriller hitmaker has a gameplan for the relaunch of his career - which will include single releases, new songs, and even a film.<br /><br />Randy Phillips, head of AEG, says, "We're talking to him about helping him figure a new plan for the release of singles, new music.<br /><br />"We have a film development deal that's part of this to do a film, Thriller 3D."<br /><br />And Phillips reveals the deal with Jackson could pull in huge revenues - if things go to plan.<br /><br />He adds,[size=18pt] "If we complete the full three-and-a-half year plan,[/size] he could gross over $400 million in that time. London could be north of $50 million."<br />
<br />@Andrea..... thanks for sharing honey!!<br /><br />@TS..... thank you so much for your 6th Sign and your great effort and contribution to the hoax, you are really brilliant!<br /><br />So guys one Sign left to go!.......is it good or not? :errrr:<br /><br />How is it gonna be?.<br /><br />6th Sign.......BAM.......7th Sign<br /><br /> OR<br /><br />6th Sign.......7th Sign.......BAM<br />
<br /><br />Well Update 7 is after the BAM <br /><br />TS<br />
...update #7 will probably be after BAM.
<br /><br />Level 7 will be done by November 29th<br /><br />TS_comments<br />
I said we would finish level 7 by November 29
<br /><br />Sign 7 will be done by the end of this year, I'd probably say before the BAM since we will have Update 7 after.<br /><br />TS_comments<br />
For sure, all three 7's will be done by the end of 2012: Level 7, Update 7, and Sign 7 (777).
your supposed to have all the knowledge at your fingertips...lol...
i'm "supposed to" ? allegedly? :icon_geek: :icon_lol:<br /><br />Oh someone's being very witty, SimWittyK, huh, huh? :icon_lol:<br /><br />
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but I read it again and I think I get the main parts of what TS is saying.
Ohh pleeeez enlighten me :bowdown:<br />
<br /><br />Ok well I only understand the basics, if I get something wrong my bad, feel free to correct me. So this is my interpretation;<br /><br />Introduction<br /><br />-The end is coming, we will not know the day or time<br />-Destruction will be upon the earth from the hands of God<br />-A prophesy (when they say 'Peace and Security', destruction will be upon them) will be fufilled. This is just the start of a war against God and the world<br />-When it says they will see the 'Son of man coming' it isn't literal, it just means they world will know who is bringing upon this destruction<br /><br />The Unfaithful Will be Caught by Surprise<br /><br />-TS explains that "this generation" means OUR generation, we are the last generation, we will see the 'sign of the times' and the end of the world (Armageddon) <br />-The faithful (the ones worshipping God) will NOT know when they end will be, no one knows, not even the Son of God will know;<br />“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only" (Matt 24:36)<br />-But by the signs and the prophesies we will know that the end is near<br />-The unfaithful will be caught by surprise as they will not expect it (remember in Noah's day) no one believed him and then when the floods came, the people were running to the mountain tops to try and save themselves<br />-69 weeks WERE interpreted as Christ's FIRST coming, but the last week was thought to represent the tribulation (destruction)<br />-And then something about what if the chapters in Daniel was fulfilled and the end was less than 7 years (which I personally don't understand because if we won't know the day, then how will we know the period)<br /><br />The Time Is Fulfilled <br /><br />The Commandment to Restore and to Build Jerusalem <br />-I don't understand a whole chunk of this area<br /><br />Seven Weeks, and Threescore and Two Weeks<br />-Don't understand<br /><br />Messiah means Anointed<br />-Christ = Messiah<br />-So Jesus is the Messiah<br /><br />The 15th Year of Tiberius Caesar <br />-Don't know about this section<br /><br />The Seventieth Week<br /><br />-Understanding what the last week (7 years...(does anyone know why a week equals 7 yrs?) of the 70 weeks<br /><br />And After Threescore and Two Weeks<br />-Jesus' death comes after the 69 week prophesy so this means the 69 week does not point to his death<br /><br />Can you count to 70?<br />-I don't get the 300 weeks (~2,000 years) bit<br /><br />The Prince Shall Come<br />-The Prince is Jesus as Daniel 11:22 and Daniel 9:25 have established, so the Prince cannot be the antichrist<br />-The Prince will destroy the city and the sanctuary and will come at the end of the 69 week prophesy<br /><br />The People of the Prince <br />-The Princes people are Titus and his soldiers as they were the ones to directly/physically destroy Jerusalem and the Temple<br />-Not God's chosen ones or the Jews <br /><br />The Only Possible Antecedent <br />-The Messiah (Jesus) shall confirm the Covenant for one week (which is the 70th week) and shall cause the sacrifice and oblation (act of worship) to cease<br />-This was confirmed when Jesus died, the earth quaked and the temple veil was torn (so animal sacrifices were no longer required), Jesus was now the ultimate/perfect sacrifice, because since sin entered through the world through one man it would take another perfect man<br /><br />In the Midst of the Week<br />-Messiah would be sacrificed in the middle of week 70 (which is 7 yrs and in the middle of that 7 yrs (3 1/2 yrs) was Jesus' baptism and death)<br /><br />Until Seventy Times Seven<br />-I don't know about this one<br /><br />The Abomination of Desolation in Daniel<br />-Abomination and desolation continuing till the end of time<br />-Apostles ask Jesus when will the conclusion of the system of things will be/sign of the times<br />-Jesus prophesied to them;<br />“Look out that nobody misleads you,for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many" (Matthew 24:4,5)<br /><br />Thou Knewest Not the Time Prophesy in Daniel<br />-I really don't know
I am reading this Sign very slowly...taking my time in between sections. I have to admit I am having trouble understanding it but I will persist.<br /><br />Just wanted to ask what is probably a lame question for some here....but does anyone have an inkling of what the different colours and bolded words, underlined words, capitalised words etc might mean/represent? They are almost like a code......I thought maybe they may make up some kind of message to decipher. I think they are kind of throwing me a bit whilst I read.
<br />I am reading this Sign very slowly...taking my time in between sections. I have to admit I am having trouble understanding it but I will persist.<br /><br />Just wanted to ask what is probably a lame question for some here....but does anyone have an inkling of what the different colours and bolded words, underlined words, capitalised words etc might mean/represent? They are almost like a code......I thought maybe they may make up some kind of message to decipher. I think they are kind of throwing me a bit whilst I read.<br />
<br /><br />I think it is just for emphasis (underlined words) and highlighted words of the same colour are like words i.e you, us yourselves, ye (are all in green). I guess more of the key and important points. When I first read Sign 6 that is the first thing I did, I looked at all the highlighted words and underlined words but didn't fine anything. But who knows, can't put it past TS.
<br />Can't deny the parallels and especially the time factor. Grace posted regarding three and a half years and TNZ in their latest twitter longer reminded me of of this three and a half year plan. Time times and half a time <br /><br />http://www.contactmusic.com/news/jackson-has-three-year-comeback-plan_1096999<br /><br />[size=18pt]JACKSON "HAS A THREE YEAR COMEBACK PLAN>"[/size]<br /><br />posted 06 March 2009<br /><br />MICHAEL JACKSON's comeback is expected to extend past his initial ten-date residency in London - he has a $400 million (£283 million), three-year plan to re-conquer the world.<br /><br />The King of Pop faced thousands of fans on Thursday (05Mar09) to announce his short residency at the O2 Arena in July (09).<br /><br />Jackson told the crowd and a gallery of reporters that the shows - dubbed "This Is It" - would be his last performances ever in the U.K.<br /><br />But representatives for concert promoter AEG have revealed the Thriller hitmaker has a gameplan for the relaunch of his career - which will include single releases, new songs, and even a film.<br /><br />Randy Phillips, head of AEG, says, "We're talking to him about helping him figure a new plan for the release of singles, new music.<br /><br />"We have a film development deal that's part of this to do a film, Thriller 3D."<br /><br />And Phillips reveals the deal with Jackson could pull in huge revenues - if things go to plan.<br /><br />He adds,[size=18pt] "If we complete the full three-and-a-half year plan,[/size] he could gross over $400 million in that time. London could be north of $50 million."<br />
<br /><br />Thanks for this reminder RK.<br /><br />Using the accession year method, MJ (a king) "died" in the middle of the year, making it an accession year, or year 0. Inclusive reckoning would have us round up 3 1/2 years to 4 - "we have 4 years to get it right or its irreversible then...we're done" - it makes more sense to say 4 years instead of 3 1/2.<br /><br />So 3 1/2 years brings us to this December (going from 6/25/09)...does this mean we are approaching the middle of the last 7 years? Was that the true meaning of what MJ was saying in TII? And what happens then... but we're not supposed to know when, right? <br /><br /><br />Thanks again TS for this latest Sign. I had a much better comprehension (I think) on the 2nd reading and once again, what you've presented makes sense and you have a lot to back it up. The 69 weeks prophecy by Daniel is indeed, amazing. Mind = blown.
5D.<br /><br />length<br />width<br />height<br />active participation (in movie: let it rain for real)<br />tIME (stretched, pressed, flipped, condensed to one momment, jump, time warp, time is relative)<br /><br />and all that by taking off our shades not by putting some on<br />witnessing God rewriting history through His servants
<br /><br /><br /><br />I'm truly hoping for fun stuff happening on Nov. 30---anything will be appreciated!! Anything at all, don't want to say any words starting with B... :icon_lol:<br /><br />Andrea<br />
Using the accession year method, MJ (a king) "died" in the middle of the year, making it an accession year, or year 0. Inclusive reckoning would have us round up 3 1/2 years to 4 - "we have 4 years to get it right or its irreversible then...we're done" - it makes more sense to say 4 years instead of 3 1/2.<br /><br />So 3 1/2 years brings us to this December (going from 6/25/09)...does this mean we are approaching the middle of the last 7 years? Was that the true meaning of what MJ was saying in TII? And what happens then... but we're not supposed to know when, right?
<br />You know it's an interesting concept to use the Signs as parables to MJ's life, hidden clues. And in the TII, Threatened, MJ stands in crucifixion pose with ghosts/spirits descending from the sky perhaps symbolizing the second coming of Christ. <br />It also seems rather mysterious to me, that though TS's Signs talk about Biblical prophesy fulfillment in Jesus's first coming, he says not a peep about Jesus' second coming, only EOW. Strange, unless...<br /><br />
<br />I am not going to read the whole thing for sure. The only words caught my eyes are THE END COMES SUDDENLY and THE UNFAITHFUL WILL BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE, & SUMMER IS NEAR. <br />IMO, this means someone WAS UNFAITHFUL that led to hoax the death and MJ will be back in summer of 2013 to 'take over' (4 years to make it right). Sounds like what I thought. Will see.<br />
<br /><br />More like: those who didn't pay attention to the hoax and the signs Michael gave will be caught off-guard by his return.<br />
<br /><br /><br />NO, I don't think Michael has intention to catch fans/people who believe that he passed away and do not listen to/catch his message. He has enemies whom he wants to surprise, not his fans. Haven't we heard his phone conversations about his concern? MJ loves all his fans-believers, non- believers, does not matter.<br />
<br /><br />I agree that Michael loves all his fans; that's why he gave them signs in the first place. If they didn't pay attention to those signs/clues, they will be shocked. Clearly, it wasn't his intention to shock them (he gave them clues). Still, both enemies and fans will be surprised. They thought he was dead, and all of a sudden he comes back? What do you think their reaction will be? I expect some jaws to drop :affraid:. His enemies might try to run and hide. The non-believing fans might get excited, some might stay in denial, some might get mad lol. Not his fault though, he warned them ahead of time. They will all be surprised for not paying attention. <br /><br />The believers on the otherhand will just be :multiplespotting: :woohoo2: :bearhug:<br /><br />Actually, we'll be surprised too because we don't know how exactly he's making that return and what that will look like specifically. Are we suppose to keep watching the sky for an "MJ air" blimp to come in the clouds?
Guys you're amazing! I'm having a hard time reading the latest sign but because of your posts, it makes it easier for me to understand what it is saying. Thanks!<br />@Bec, thanks for posting the pages!
It is IS, in part, a fan sting. TS straight up admitted it on more then one occasion, when pressed. They are being taught a lesson, just like the media.<br /><br />But it's all for love. L.O.V.E.<br /><br />@MJonmind, you read my mind with the B word. I hope we will get a heads up... maybe a little inside scoop? A little "save the date" card of sorts?
Hiya, all!<br /><br />after quick reading that pdf, I have a question It seems to me, that what I read between lines and, seeing the political debates going on, that some of the parts referred in to the pdf and before, could lead to some kind of "mormon profecy" that many are waiting for.<br /><br /><br />The mormons believe that Israelites must return to their land and then "the father" would come to eart (they also believe that they are the chosen to rule the world because they are some kind of reincarnated spirits from the past. A bit odd, considering that Romney, who is a mormon, could become the next USA president :over-react-smiley:) )<br /><br /><br />TS, what has Michael Jackson "death" to do with the texts you are posting? :Pulling_hair: :computer-losy-smiley:
use_your_illusion: you are such a sweetheart to try and help me get it better! Thank you for the effort of writing all that!! :bearhug:<br />I see that we are both on "the same page" of not getting pretty much anything of it!<br /><br /><br />My only possible way of understanding these signs posted by TS is that we don't have to take them literally, they must somehow represent symbolically the death hoax and the return of Michael! it's all an allegory I guess!!<br />But in order to get the hidden meaning related to the hoax, we must somehow understand the literal meaning of those texts!! Which for me it's impossible! I mean it's very hard to even read all that, let alone understanding it! But IDK I think that once we manage to grasp the meaning of the actual text, we will be able to "visualize" the parallels to the death hoax!<br /><br />So far the only parallels that i could "SEE" are these:<br />- nobody knows when the BAM will be (BAM of Michael equals the second coming of Christ here)<br />- the beLIEvers know there will be a BAM but they don't know when<br />- the non-beLIEvers will be fully SHOCKED when Michael returns very much ALIVE (just like the unfaithful people were panicked when they saw that Noah was right!! and they started running on the top of the mountains to save their lives, that's pretty much how the non-believers and Michael's haters will feel like when Michael returns ALIVE and victorious!)<br />- Just like ADI thinks, I also beLIEve that the terms highlighted in colors and everything are an important CLUE! I think this is precisely why TS took the effort of putting this sign into a PDF format even with the risk of most of us not being able to download that! He wanted to make sure we realize the importance of those COLORED terms.<br />- Those words colored do not make any sense to us for now... I guess we should just keep that in mind for now and in the near future we will be able to correlate/connect them with the next clues/event that we will receive. It's all a puzzle , remember? and we gradually receive some pieces of it...and sometimes certain pieces don't seem to fit , until the next time we receive some more pieces!<br /><br />Well that's what I could understand so far... and most probably I'm wrong !! lol
My guess about Michael's comeback timing:<br /><br />1- November 27th' 2012: BAM (Thursday - middle of the week)<br /><br />2- November 29th' 2012: TS' 7th Sign<br /><br />3- November 30th' 2012: 30th Thriller Anniversary + Thriller 3D movie release
Daniel 9: 26 "After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. "<br /><br />Daniel 9:27 "He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. "<br /><br />@Ellyd ..you was fast...i was going to post that too... :LolLolLolLol:
<br />Hiya, all!<br /><br />after quick reading that pdf, I have a question It seems to me, that what I read between lines and, seeing the political debates going on, that some of the parts referred in to the pdf and before, could lead to some kind of "mormon profecy" that many are waiting for.<br /><br /><br />The mormons believe that Israelites must return to their land and then "the father" would come to eart (they also believe that they are the chosen to rule the world because they are some kind of reincarnated spirits from the past. A bit odd, considering that Romney, who is a mormon, could become the next USA president :over-react-smiley:) )<br /><br /><br />TS, what has Michael Jackson "death" to do with the texts you are posting? :Pulling_hair: :computer-losy-smiley:<br />
<br /><br /><br />hi gema, good to see you. where does your info on what mormons believe come from? not criticizing just wondering if it is a source you can post for us . one thing i have found to be an added perk about this site is having the opportunity to learn more about jw via aussie and ford, muslim by sarahli and others so it would be great to learn about mormons also . i was actually reading something a week or so ago about their views but did not see any mention of what you stated. have to look at all sources right. i have wondered from time to time if what we were looking at in ts post could be coming from a mormon point of view , i have even had one in mind i thought it could be from time to time. :icon_lol: :suspect:
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