<br />Sunset, I'd would think Nov. 28, for, "See you next Wednesday!" (Thriller)
<br /><br />Although I have given up trying to figure out possible BAM dates because I always let myself down by doing so, I thought this was interesting after reading your post MJonmind and also the posts about Thriller II...........<br /><br />.....just like in the original Thriller short film, Wednesday November 28th 2012 is a full moon :icon_cool:
It took me hours to get this straight enough to post and I'm cross eyed by now and just need to hit post, so if it doesn't make sense to anyone, or if it's off topic by now, I'm sorry. <br /><br />@mindseye, I was counting 70 day periods by adding 70 to each subsequent date and I arrived at 12/4/2012 as the end of the 18th 70 day period. Inclusive would be 12/5 as day 1260 by that count. <br /><br />I use this program: http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html<br /><br />The confusion is when you add 1260 days directly to 6/25/09 and select to have the end date included it gives you 12/6/2012. So does that means I lost a day somewhere in my 2010 calculations? The 12/4/12 exclusive count calculation was based on my last recorded date from the 70 day theory (the one I hoped I didn't need to count past LOL!), 10/11/2011. I double checked all the math and no, I think the confusion lies with the Add to or Subtract from a Date program on that site, and probably similar applications on other date counting sites.<br /><br />Because I calculate the "duration" between 6/25/09 and 12/6/2012 and I come up with 1261 days inclusive so that would make 1260 days on the 5th inclusive.<br /><br />It's confusing and this is where the numbers start to make me go crazy. I had no idea 1260 was a Biblical period of time, much less that it was prophesied in Daniel. I think these numbers are even more interesting now that I do (thank you, Andrea).<br /><br />I think the confusion between 12/5 and 12/6 is the same lesson TS taught us back in 09 with the 9/3-9/9 burial-autopsy=7 days; when people (and computer programs) add a number of days to a date, it is typical to begin counting the day after the original or target date as "day 1", 2 days later as "day 2", because the calculation is xx/xx/xx + [in addition to] xx days= total). So to get an accurate count, you have to add 1259 days to 6/25/09 (day One) to get an inclusive total of 1260 days. December 6th would be 1261 days inclusive.<br /><br />12/5/2012 will be the 1260th day of the hoax, a count that includes (inclusive) day One, 6/25/09. <br /><br />HOWEVER, it is also true that Thursday, 12/6/2012 will be 180 weeks total since MJ died (and 1260 days since).<br /><br />Because a week=7days, and after 6/25/09, the following Thursday was one week since MJ died, not one week AND one day. That would make no sense so you would never refer to that time period as such. You would say it had been one week. The next morning you would say one week and one day... etc.<br /><br />So, much like 8/10/11 and 8/11/11 were both significant for 777 day; 8/10/2011 was day 777 and 8/11/2011 was 111 weeks, both of these days, 12/5/12 and 12/6/12 of significance are approaching.<br /><br />(Ps. remember the 9282 days thing? Pepsi Fire? The Pepsi incident occurred on the 9283rd day, or Day 1 of the second half of MJ's life. :icon_e_wink: <br /><br />Also:<br /><br />Friday, 8/29/58--> Friday, 1/27/84 = 9283 days inclusive, 1326 weeks [birth-Pepsi fire]<br />Thursday 3/5/09--> Thursday, 6/25/09 = 113 days inclusive, 16 weeks [O2-death]<br />Thursday, 6/25/09--> Thursday, 9/3/09 = 71 days inclusive, 10 weeks [death-burial]<br />Thursday, 6/25/09--> Thursday, 12/6/12 = 1261 days inclusive, 180 weeks [death-who knows])
Makes sense to me, bec.<br /><br />December 6, 2012 = 1260 days ( +1 day of simmering) <br /><br />Front: "Do NOT forget the 1 day of Simmering, for it is a consequential and VITAL ingredient of the recipe---Past, Present & Future! Look for it............"
<br />My guess about Michael's comeback timing:<br /><br />1- November 27th' 2012: BAM (Thursday - middle of the week)<br /><br />2- November 29th' 2012: TS' 7th Sign<br /><br />3- November 30th' 2012: 30th Thriller Anniversary + Thriller 3D movie release<br />
<br /><br />Why November 27th? Ya know somethin' :suspect: :icon_e_surprised: :icon_lol:<br />
<br /><br />Yes I know it all, I am Michael in disguise :icon_lol: :LolLolLolLol:<br />it's because 27th is in the middle of the week, just guessing that's all, anyway any day will be ok to me.....Michael please let me know before you BAM just to be ready!! :michael_jackson-1135:<br />
<br /><br /> :icon_lol: Wazzup my moonwalking friend? <br />@MJ yeah can we get an exclusive, promise we won't tell <br /><br />
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<br />@UYI.......I see you are up to your old tricks, lol......yes, you know it all : ) I am sure our buddy, ItsHer, would concur :icon_lol:<br />Great posts you have going on, by the way....thank you! Yes, it would be nice for a little pre-bam warning to ready ourselves! <br />Good to see you around.......<br />
<br /><br />Umm noooo :icon_lol: Where is she anyway? No I don't know everything, but most of it yes...lol, JKS<br />Thank you Wishing, it's good to see you as well and I ALWAYS love your posts. Yeah I'm trying to read the threads as much as I can while I study for exams, I still have 3 to go and they finish on November 16th so I won't be on here as much or post as much.<br />Yes it would be nice to get a pre-bam warning just for the mere fact I don't want to miss out on the BAM. Oh and FYI @MJ please don't BAM on Nov 5-7 or Nov 16th, I have exams, Sincerely UYI. :icon_geek:<br /><br />@Andrea and @Bec, so are you saying, by your calculations December 6 is a potential BAM date?<br />
<br />It took me hours to get this straight enough to post and I'm cross eyed by now and just need to hit post, so if it doesn't make sense to anyone, or if it's off topic by now, I'm sorry. <br /><br />@mindseye, I was counting 70 day periods by adding 70 to each subsequent date and I arrived at 12/4/2012 as the end of the 18th 70 day period. Inclusive would be 12/5 as day 1260 by that count. <br /><br />I use this program: http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html<br /><br />The confusion is when you add 1260 days directly to 6/25/09 and select to have the end date included it gives you 12/6/2012. So does that means I lost a day somewhere in my 2010 calculations? The 12/4/12 exclusive count calculation was based on my last recorded date from the 70 day theory (the one I hoped I didn't need to count past LOL!), 10/11/2011. I double checked all the math and no, I think the confusion lies with the Add to or Subtract from a Date program on that site, and probably similar applications on other date counting sites.<br /><br />Because I calculate the "duration" between 6/25/09 and 12/6/2012 and I come up with 1261 days inclusive so that would make 1260 days on the 5th inclusive.<br /><br />It's confusing and this is where the numbers start to make me go crazy. I had no idea 1260 was a Biblical period of time, much less that it was prophesied in Daniel. I think these numbers are even more interesting now that I do (thank you, Andrea).<br /><br />I think the confusion between 12/5 and 12/6 is the same lesson TS taught us back in 09 with the 9/3-9/9 burial-autopsy=7 days; when people (and computer programs) add a number of days to a date, it is typical to begin counting the day after the original or target date as "day 1", 2 days later as "day 2", because the calculation is xx/xx/xx + [in addition to] xx days= total). So to get an accurate count, you have to add 1259 days to 6/25/09 (day One) to get an inclusive total of 1260 days. December 6th would be 1261 days inclusive.<br /><br />12/5/2012 will be the 1260th day of the hoax, a count that includes (inclusive) day One, 6/25/09. <br /><br />HOWEVER, it is also true that Thursday, 12/6/2012 will be 180 weeks total since MJ died (and 1260 days since).<br /><br />Because a week=7days, and after 6/25/09, the following Thursday was one week since MJ died, not one week AND one day. That would make no sense so you would never refer to that time period as such. You would say it had been one week. The next morning you would say one week and one day... etc.<br /><br />So, much like 8/10/11 and 8/11/11 were both significant for 777 day; 8/10/2011 was day 777 and 8/11/2011 was 111 weeks, both of these days, 12/5/12 and 12/6/12 of significance are approaching.<br /><br />(Ps. remember the 9282 days thing? Pepsi Fire? The Pepsi incident occurred on the 9283rd day, or Day 1 of the second half of MJ's life. :icon_e_wink: <br /><br />Also:<br /><br />Friday, 8/29/58--> Friday, 1/27/84 = 9283 days inclusive, 1326 weeks [birth-Pepsi fire]<br />Thursday 3/5/09--> Thursday, 6/25/09 = 113 days inclusive, 16 weeks [O2-death]<br />Thursday, 6/25/09--> Thursday, 9/3/09 = 71 days inclusive, 10 weeks [death-burial]<br />Thursday, 6/25/09--> Thursday, 12/6/12 = 1261 days inclusive, 180 weeks [death-who knows])<br />
<br /><br />Thanks Bec, Andrea and Mindseye, wow you are all very very smart, you all have me numberfied. <br /><br />Ok so I read your post and I wanted to ask a few questions and clarify a few things:<br /><br />Your counting 70 days from 25/6/09?<br />Are you counting 25/6/09 as Day 1?<br />What is significant about 1260 in the prophesy of Daniel?<br />
Actually UYI, that IS the date (Dec ~6th) I've had in mind but I don't really "like" predicting BAM dates just because. If it doesn't happen that day, then I DO expect SOMETHING hoax related to happen that day, although what I don't know. But I do have a feeling it will be December...but anytime this year would be great. I think we're as ready as we can be, or nearly anyways.
<br />...<br />What is significant about 1260 in the prophesy of Daniel?<br />
<br /><br />From my understanding, 1260 prophetic days = 1260 literal years. The time period is mentioned 7 times in the Bible prophecies. I really suck at explaining this sort of thing so here is a visual aid that might help. Also take a look at my other two post quotes on the previous page and google it as well for a better understanding. <br /><br /><br /><br />From here: http://www.bibleprophecytruth.com/prophecy-resources/bible-prophecy-charts.aspx<br /><br />There is also a visual of the 70 weeks from the same link.<br /><br />
@Andrea, thank you, I understand it now, you explained it really well :bearhug:<br /><br />When you put it like that, it's amazing, it all makes sense now, thanks again :icon_razz:
<br />Makes sense to me, bec.<br /><br />December 6, 2012 = 1260 days ( +1 day of simmering) <br /><br />Front: "Do NOT forget the 1 day of Simmering, for it is a consequential and VITAL ingredient of the recipe---Past, Present & Future! Look for it............"<br />
<br /><br />Great quote, and timely.<br /><br />I'm looking for it I'm looking for it. Everything note worthy happens on the day One after the significantly numbered day. All those dates I listed, also:<br /><br />death--> burial, 6/25/09->9/3/09 71 days<br />burial-->last day TII was in theaters, 9/3/09->11/12/09 71 days<br />last day of TII--> 7 month hoax anniversary, 11/12/09->1/25/09 71 days<br />7 month hoax anniversary--> Murray's arrest, 1/25/10->4/5/10 71 days <br />Murray's arrest--> first court date, 4/5/10->6/14/10 71 days <br />first court date--> second court date, 6/14/10->8/23/10 71 days<br />second court date-->______(I have no event recorded for 11/1/10), 8/23/10->11/1/10 71 days <br />11/1/10--> 1/10/11, next day 1/11/11 Murray's Pre-Lim trial ends, 72 days<br />--1/11/11-->1/25/11 Arraignment = 22 days inclusive, 7+7+7+1 day of simmering.<br />
<br /><br />Ok so I read your post and I wanted to ask a few questions and clarify a few things:<br /><br />Your counting 70 days from 25/6/09?<br />Are you counting 25/6/09 as Day 1?<br /><br />
<br /><br />Yes, 70 day periods starting from 6/25/09/day One.
Awesome Bec :icon_e_biggrin: That helps. I've been using the same calculator site, but it depends on whether add the extra day. <br /><br />Both your and Andrea's post got me thinking of other dates, such as December 18, 2003, Jackson was charged, and also noted 9/3/03 was Michael's fan b-day party, the 9/3/09 funeral.<br /><br />This also caught my attention.... <br /><br />"The word “weeks” here is translated from Strong’s #7620; it is used for a period of seven days—not only<br />elsewhere in Daniel (10:2,3,13), but also in several other Scriptures (see Leviticus 12:5; Deuteronomy 16:9,10,16;<br />2 Chronicles 8:13; Ezekiel 45:21; etc). So 69 weeks would be 483 days (69 x 7 = 483)."<br /><br />So I thought of weeks instead of days for 483 and calculated...<br /><br />From and including: Wednesday, September 3, 2003<br />To, but not including : Thursday, December 6, 2012<br />It is 3382 days also= 7 but if the day was included = 17<br />483 weeks (rounded down) <br /><br />but idk :Pulling_hair: 71 21 11 important numbers and nov.29 dec.6, 12, 21 stand out.<br /><br />And also...<br />From and including: Thursday, September 3, 2009<br />To and including: Thursday, December 6, 2012<br /><br />It is 1191 days = 12<br />170 weeks <br />
I just remembered that December 6th is the day MJ collapsed while rehearsing for a live concert that was supposed to be broadcasted world wide to approx 250 million people and he was taken to hospital.<br /><br />I never knew this but supposedly MJ was 'near death'<br /><br />The Doctor that helped MJ said;<br />
"Mr. Jackson was in critical condition, Alleyne said. He was dehydrated. He had low blood pressure. He had a rapid heart rate. He was [size=14pt]near death[/size]."
So that was in 1995 when MJ was to be doing the televised show with Marcel Marceau. I remember the wide spread speculation that Michael was pulling a fast one to get out of that performance. <br />There sure are a lot of 6's found in that date. 6th December 1995..... 6; 6+6=12;6+6+12=24.<br />These numbers are sending me crazy.
Why are we trying so hard to prove 2012?<br />What is the risk of TS being labelled a "fake informer" as to MJ Bam date just in case 2012 does not show the action we would like to see? Hasn't TS been a valid and rich source of knowledge to date? I am sure TS has been called a "fake informer" many times before just for ignorant rejection of the matters he discusses. He risks only to lose contact to hands that would not hold onto a rock anyway.<br /><br />Would MJ not coming to theaters in 2012 change anything of MJ's very truth?<br />What about our own very truth? And why would this rich soil need any date of "approval in the flesh"?<br /><br />It is sure easier to prepare for Christmas and get into Christmas feelings. There is a deep pleasure of preparing for known celebration dates. There's only one strong disadvantage: a day has only 24 hrs and thus a date turns into past quickly. Morning after headache.<br /><br />What we are witnessing is the "piece by piece" stretching of time for as long as can be. The interesting feature of this journey is: the more we explore, the more we realize we still don't know anything - mystery keeping our breath in exact the shape the master likes it to be. Mind jogging exercises prevent from dementia and growing old, lol. This could go on like forever and we still would not know "how". Some among us even fear the end because we enjoy the journey so much.<br /><br />As to me, I do not count on any date, not in 2012 or later.<br />I am constantly preparing my days as if Christmas happened tomorrow. Ha, I fail many times but I keep trying to stay awake.<br />My time's enrichment is not dependent on any given structure but I take e.g. this out of it: time, structure and awareness are essential for giving value to life. Value is a constitutional basis for love. <br />We were given a VIP seat in educating ourselves about value while being entertained to the bone. If we would not be constantly given extraordinary value by TS, he would not put so tremendous effort behind his condensed explanations.<br />I personally do not care whether any date will come true or not or whether we got the dates right. <br />It is about much more than that I'd say.<br /><br />All your recaps and calculations are great btw. <br />Just wanted to add that no matter what, TS will not be a "fake informer" to me, although I am not doing well in Old Testament.<br /><br />Blessings, much love and safety to all.
Value is a constitutional basis for love. <br />We were given a VIP seat in educating ourselves about value while being entertained to the bone. If we would not be constantly given extraordinary value by TS, he would not put so tremendous effort behind his condensed explanations.<br />I personally do not care whether any date will come true or not or whether we got the dates right. <br />It is about much more than that I'd say.<br /><br />All your recaps and calculations are great btw. <br />Just wanted to add that no matter what, TS will not be a "fake informer" to me,
<br />Makes sense to me, bec.<br /><br />December 6, 2012 = 1260 days ( +1 day of simmering) <br /><br />Front: "Do NOT forget the 1 day of Simmering, for it is a consequential and VITAL ingredient of the recipe---Past, Present & Future! Look for it............"<br />
<br /><br />Great quote, and timely.<br /><br />I'm looking for it I'm looking for it. Everything note worthy happens on the day One after the significantly numbered day. All those dates I listed, also:<br /><br />death--> burial, 6/25/09->9/3/09 71 days<br />burial-->last day TII was in theaters, 9/3/09->11/12/09 71 days<br />last day of TII--> 7 month hoax anniversary, 11/12/09->1/25/09 71 days<br />7 month hoax anniversary--> Murray's arrest, 1/25/10->4/5/10 71 days <br />Murray's arrest--> first court date, 4/5/10->6/14/10 71 days <br />first court date--> second court date, 6/14/10->8/23/10 71 days<br />second court date-->______(I have no event recorded for 11/1/10), 8/23/10->11/1/10 71 days <br />11/1/10--> 1/10/11, next day 1/11/11 Murray's Pre-Lim trial ends, 72 days<br />--1/11/11-->1/25/11 Arraignment = 22 days inclusive, 7+7+7+1 day of simmering.<br />
<br /><br />Wow, Great Job Bec. This is amazing and mindblowing. So the 1260 days plus one day of simmering brings us to December 6, 2012. This is also a few weeks short of 42 months. So it seems like were following Daniel's prophesy. I'll go back and see the calculations. Thanks so much for all your work. :icon_razz:<br /><br />Love You All
06/25/2009--> 12/04/2012 = 180 weeks exactly, (18) 70 day periods exactly, Thursday to Thursday, 1260 days.<br />
<br /><br />1260 days is a Biblical time period. 42 months or 3.5 years (!) - all the months having 30 days. There is mentions of the 1260 days both in Daniel and Revelations. :icon_eek:<br /><br />I just found this: <br /><br />
Biblical use of the 1260 day/years<br /><br />Daniel 7.25<br />And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.<br /><br />A Time = 1 year<br />Times = 2 years<br />Dividing of Times = 1/2 year.<br />360 X 3 =1080 180 = 1260 <br /><br />Daniel 12.7<br />And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. <br /><br />Rev. 11.2<br />But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.<br />Rev. 11.3<br />And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.<br /><br />Forty two months = 42 X 30 = 1260<br /><br />Two hundred and threescore = 1260<br /><br />Rev. 12.6<br />And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. <br /><br />Rev. 12.14<br />And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.<br /><br />Rev. 13.5,8<br />And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months...and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. <br /><br />This same power depicted as controlling religious affairs for 1260 years, will again arise. It's deadly wound healed. Together with the "power of the dragon" and "force of the second beast" the world will be brought to a crises. (See Rev. 13) Therefore it is imperative that we understand this issue.<br />
<br /><br />From here and there's more to read - http://dedication.www3.50megs.com/dan/1260.html<br /><br />[size=8pt](The 1260 days from June 25th has been my own little bamsday date that I've had in the back of my mind for quite a while now)[/size]<br />
<br /><br />Didn't the number 18 have significance also ? Didn't Conrad Murray wear that number ? I think it means life or to live. I'll have to look back.
<br />Makes sense to me, bec.<br /><br />December 6, 2012 = 1260 days ( +1 day of simmering) <br /><br />Front: "Do NOT forget the 1 day of Simmering, for it is a consequential and VITAL ingredient of the recipe---Past, Present & Future! Look for it............"<br />
<br /><br />Great quote, and timely.<br /><br />I'm looking for it I'm looking for it. Everything note worthy happens on the day One after the significantly numbered day. All those dates I listed, also:<br /><br />death--> burial, 6/25/09->9/3/09 71 days<br />burial-->last day TII was in theaters, 9/3/09->11/12/09 71 days<br />last day of TII--> 7 month hoax anniversary, 11/12/09->1/25/09 71 days<br />7 month hoax anniversary--> Murray's arrest, 1/25/10->4/5/10 71 days <br />Murray's arrest--> first court date, 4/5/10->6/14/10 71 days <br />first court date--> second court date, 6/14/10->8/23/10 71 days<br />second court date-->______(I have no event recorded for 11/1/10), 8/23/10->11/1/10 71 days <br />11/1/10--> 1/10/11, next day 1/11/11 Murray's Pre-Lim trial ends, 72 days<br />--1/11/11-->1/25/11 Arraignment = 22 days inclusive, 7+7+7+1 day of simmering.<br />
<br /><br />Wow, Great Job Bec. This is amazing and mindblowing. So the 1260 days plus one day of simmering brings us to December 6, 2012. This is also a few weeks short of 42 months. So it seems like were following Daniel's prophesy. I'll go back and see the calculations. Thanks so much for all your work. :icon_razz:<br /><br />Love You All<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br />1260 days is 42 months exactly because Biblical months are each 30 days which also works out to be exactly 3.5 years.<br /><br /><br /><br />
Didn't the number 18 have significance also ? Didn't Conrad Murray wear that number ? I think it means life or to live. I'll have to look back.
Thanks Andrea that's exactly the picture I was thinking about. The one with Conrad Murray wearing the number 18. You counted 18 sets of 70. If you use biblical months of 30 days then the 42 weeks works out also. It looks like everything is working out perfectly. <br /><br />I'm so excited ! :th_bravo: <br /><br /><br /><br /> :woohoo2: And we ain't seen nothing yet !
<br />Thanks Andrea that's exactly the picture I was thinking about. The one with Conrad Murray wearing the number 18. You counted 18 sets of 70. If you use biblical months of 30 days then the 42 weeks works out also. It looks like everything is working out perfectly. <br /><br />I'm so excited ! :th_bravo: <br /><br /><br /><br /> :woohoo2: And we ain't seen nothing yet !<br />
<br /><br />It is exciting to see what these numbers do. It was bec who counted the 18 sets of 70 and got 1260. I got 1260 based on a conversation I had with someone here back in February about what that time period in Daniel and Revelations revealed.<br /><br />About the 42 months, that number is very interesting. Adding all the numbers of MJ's birthday individually gives you 42:<br />8+2+9+1+9+5+8 = 42. Adding the numbers of the "death" day gives you the reverse 24. 6+2+5+2+0+0+9 = 24.<br /><br /><br /><br />(I realize that's a popular jersey because of Kobe, lol, but still)<br /><br />Back to the number 42, look at this google screen shot. (I blacked-out my location)<br /><br /><br /><br /> :icon_lol:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(number)<br /><br /><br />I think I've gone way off topic :errrr: (apologies), I'll go back to page one and started reading Sign 6 again.
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