<br />Souza, we should open a topic for MFFreedom's answer on Q:14.<br /><br />I'm VERY curious if he/she (sorry don't know) can explain that idea any further!<br />
<br /><br />The 2 MJ's have been discussed, I have been throwing that out since 2009 but no one wants to hear. I do not believe that any is used though by anyone, maybe some doubles are. The two MJ's I meant are actually both really MJ. There are blogs (see menu) called it takes two to tango, have you read those?
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I've read some, but stopped because I couldn't understand it. - make it clear for myself that there are 2 MJ's - <br /><br /><br />But MFFreedom said "one being used by Sony" and that triggered me.<br />But I will read the blogs, thanks for the tip! :bearhug:
<br />Souza, we should open a topic for MFFreedom's answer on Q:14.<br /><br />I'm VERY curious if he/she (sorry don't know) can explain that idea any further!<br />
<br /><br />The 2 MJ's have been discussed, I have been throwing that out since 2009[size=18pt] but no one wants to hear[/size]. I do not believe that any is used though by anyone, maybe some doubles are. The two MJ's I meant are actually both really MJ. There are blogs (see menu) called it takes two to tango, have you read those?<br />
<br /><br />When you say no one wants to hear,do you mean all of us,or what :icon_question: :icon_e_confused: ?? Well in that case you are wrong,becasue I said the same thing over and over again :icon_lol: :LolLolLolLol:,but a good portion of people ignore that.Well I guess that it has to be a reason why we as individuals, not think the same way.
1.What is your username and has it always been the same?<br /><br />Snoopy71- It's been the same since day 1 <br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when? <br /><br />The O2 press picture of MJ I saw about a week after he "died". I felt something was “off” about it and started digging on the internet. Started on another death hoax site - got a "mysterious" PM from a member there asking me to research something and found my way here as a result. I've been over here ever since. :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />Get out of the “lime-light” away from the media and pay off some debts. Plus a health/sanity break! <br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />MJ (of course), his children, the Estate, Dr. Murray, a few trusted staff people….possibly FBI/CIA (not sure)...I think members of the family knowing came later. <br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br /><br />Nope. MJ can still accomplish what he wants living in anonymity (death) without the glare of the media (age gracefully). It would only be a comeback for the sake of the fans. His true fans would never forget him anyway, so what would be the point of coming back? <br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br /><br />I doubt it...but just in case…<br /><br />What’s up Mike?! <br /><br /><br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br />Actual planning....maybe 1978 or so? :icon_e_confused: I think his "manifesto" was the first step. :ghsdf:<br /><br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />The 6 months prior to the O2 announcement<br /><br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />People profiting from others hoax research work....also sometimes feeling like we're “lab rats” or some type of science experiment.<br /><br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br /><br />Couldn’t say, don’t watch them- only because it’s usually someone’s interpretation of something.<br /><br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br /><br />Not sure – something did seem odd (it’s why I started digging)<br /><br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />See question #8<br /><br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />1. We never saw a body (in the casket)<br />2. The prediction in the tabloids that he’d be dead in 6 months<br />3. The 911 call / paramedic didn’t recognize MJ<br /><br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br /><br />I'm not telling in open forum...<br /><br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br /><br />Larry King:”He’s still dead right?", Michael's "penguin dance" in TII, Arnold Kleins pitiful rants, Jermaine's...well, (just Jermaine in general), and LaToya when she's acting "kooky".<br /><br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br />I'd be curious to know how many people on here work for TMZ, Sony... or are actually related to the Jacksons in some way.<br /><br /><br />
<br />I've read some, but stopped because I couldn't understand it. - make it clear for myself that there are 2 MJ's - <br /><br /><br />But MFFreedom said "one being used by Sony" and that triggered me.<br />But I will read the blogs, thanks for the tip! :bearhug:<br />
<br /><br />There are huge threads on this with a hundred different opinions, including that one. You are always free to open a new thread about it.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Nice idea Souza !<br /><br />1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br /><br />Rouxie Always been the Same , Not in Every Hoax Forum<br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br /><br />December 2009 , Everything was Really confusing and made no sense<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />$$$ , Taking his health and Shape back on , Exposing Media , and getting His name Cleared.<br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />His Children , Katherine , Ortega , Murray<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br /><br />Yes "Piece by Piece Light Man will be Revealed" why ? Because the Show must Go on And he needs a Closure<br />When ? I don't know , He will come out to the light at the time he wants AKA " BAM" and How ? Same answer unknown<br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br /><br />Yep , Yep and Surely Yep <br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br /><br />I think in the late 80s but the idea became really serious in 2001 Specifically " Invincible " <br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />Not Sure Maybe The home tapes and Moonwalker<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />Money Diggers from OUR ideas you know who i mean , Impostors and Frauds <br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br /><br />This is it.<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br /><br />No.<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />I Think we discussed every little detail but Threads should be discussed again whether it's Debunked or Confirmed<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />Funeral , This is it Both Movie and Ending Song , DaveDave<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br /><br />Mj will talk about our forum when he comes back. Enough for now lol<br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br /><br />Murray's Singing to Anderson Cooper and the slips of Jermaine Jackson<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br /><br />Nothing<br />
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br /> Yes always the same!<br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br />When I was watching the memorial live, I was sure that MJ was going to jump out of his casket. After that I was looking on you tube for videos of MJ and I saw a hoax video about Dave Dave. So I start to read about that for almost half of a year before signing in here <br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br />1- a movie<br />2- something about bad doctors and bad use of different drugs. He probably have been ask to help FBI<br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br />Family for sure and if it's my second choice of reason, well FBI. Not that much people in the option 2. In the option 1, well, everyone around the movie.<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br />Yes . For the when, I can't say. But the why, for both of the option, he will be back. For the How, I imagine it will be big.<br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br />Why not? If it was me, I would want to know what people think. About posting, well, I think he is, but he will never use the ''MJ writing'' (I mean the peace, I love you more, and everything Mj would use).<br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br />For option movie, since a long time.<br />For the option FBI, not that much. probably since the 2005 trial.<br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br />Maybe some of you will hate me, but I think we overlook the double theory in TTI, and in is life.<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br />Bible and numbers.<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br />LunaJo<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br />YES! I think MJ was playing like a not the real MJ.<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br />Umm...hard to say....<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br />1- Dave Dave<br />2- Jermaine Slip-up<br />3- The ''He's still dead by the way''<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br />loll like I said earlier, the Double theory in TII, I don't believe in it <br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br />The slip up and, on a personal side, the wonderful troll in the chat (These boots are made for walking)<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br />No <br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24091.0/topicseen.html
Souza, this is a brilliant idea i am supprised you didnt think of this years ago :0) ... ok i dont post much on here, and havnt in the 4 years i have been here even though i 'check in' every day .. i appolagize if my answers are quite long but i thought i could put my thoughts down for the first time in 4 years as i never get involved in board disscusions ;D<br /><br /><br /><br />1. What is your username and has it always been the same? <br /><br />I have always been susiesesitsright seemed the right username as my name is Suzie and ask freinds and family .. I am always right ;0)<br /><br /><br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br /><br />25th June 2009, Jermain Jackson announced his brothers death ... what the hell?? since when??? I thought it was always an official body that announced a death ... the other niggling doubts set in the next day when absolutely nothing made any sense. The biggest thing that played on my mind was the length of time it took to 'bury' Michael.<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />To this day i honestly cant answer that question ... my first thought was that he knew he could not complete the 'this is it' concerts and knew he would be finished if he cancelled ... but since reading lately those hand written notes, I think the TII concert was never meant to take place and that was the begining of Michael's new path in his life.<br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />Jermain without any doubt, Kenny O, the cast and crew of TII and a VERY small group of chosen 'by Michael' friends, def Paris & Prince i have reservations about blanket .... i even have some doubt as to Katherine knowing.<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br /><br />At first it was certainly no, as i could not see Michael going through all that to come back, I think he had his whole new future planned out and i honestly believe, the hoax death is so he can follow his dream of movie making, directing and producing, also you will never convince me that the Cirque Du Soleil Immortal world tour was not produced, mixed and directed by Michael, i think he has been working on that tour a very long time.<br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br /><br />LOL i would love to think he does, ermmm yes i think he does, this forum has had so much publicity his curiosity would have made him check it out, does he post?? maybe .. some posts i read although have no mannerisms of Michael at all, certainly have his way of thinking .... I wont allow myself to believe anyone here is Michael .. that way i dont get dragged in by any troll :0)<br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br /><br />Since the 2005 trial .. i honestly dont believe he even thought about it before then, i think once he was found innocent he decided on a new direction in his life and he had to vanish from view to achieve this and thats why he led a 'nomad' life ... he was laying the foundations for the hoax and his new life.<br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />I think we need to go back and re-examine the days, weeks & months directly after Michael's 'death' with ALL the information we have now.<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />the crazyness that led to every advert, every film, every song, everything in general being disected because it held clues to the 'hoax' Michael is a powerfull man ... but im sorry he is not so powerful that he can sway big companies to place clues in everything filmed, written etc since 2009<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br /><br />I watch so many but take no notice of who made them ... sorry folks who make them .. but they are all equally well researched :0)<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br /><br />I want to say no .. but honestley i really am not sure.<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />The early days just following the 'death'<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />1. Jermain's airport slip up, 2. the ambulance video (sorry i still think that was genuine and the 'how we did it video was damage controll') 3. The children and their reaction at the memorial and funeral, specially Paris's (i can cry on demand) speach at the memorial.<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br /><br />That Michael is alive and well and living in Sevenoaks in kent and i will bump into him in Hamleys toy shop while shopping in London :0) <br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br /><br />Jason pfeiffer and his imagination ... that guy should write fan fiction ... look at fifty shades of grey :0) .... come on Jason think about it, you wouldnt need to leech of Michael's memory anymore you could earn an honest buck :0)<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br /><br />ermmmm ... ok hands up who took the red pill and who took the blue pill?? :0)<br /><br />
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br />My username is ShyBleuEyes, before 2010 it was BleuEyes, due to chatroom problems(i couldnt login anymore, Souza recommended me to change my user name.<br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br />i saw the news on tele and it was real late here,.. that Mj has rushed to the hospital, but hoped it was false alarm. the next day my mom called me really early to tell me MJ had passed away. the following days i thought he was murdered, it was to odd. i kept talking to anyone because it didn't want to settle in my head, and after 2 weeks my sister asked me if i have searched at the internet if he was indeed dead, so we did, and while she quit searching after that day, i went on...<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br />There are more reasons imo, illuminati, aeg(sony), estate, financial debt , and perfoming his best show ever, hoax shock.<br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br />MJ, lol, his family (most of them) Kenny O, Tom M.<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br />I do think it's what j is aiming For, but i do believe the sircomstances has to be right.<br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br />I do believe he checks in every now and then , but mostly by people who support him thorough this hoax.<br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br />I don't know, but i do know it takes some preparation to do something like this big.<br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br />not for now.<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br />The part that we see MJ as some kind of super human/angel.<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br />i like most of them..<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br />Yes<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br />Backs posts.<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br />Dave Dave(larry King) funeral, time (7)<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br />In private i tell anyone who wants to hear it, i don't care what people think of me about MJ hoaxed death<br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br />the chatroom, i had a wonderfull time there.I miss those days.<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?[/b]<br />Just happy here.<br />
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br />Speeddemon81- yes always the same on any board <br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br />I youtubed his name one day and came across the video of them body being moved and it SAT UP in the helicopter.....sorry for the caps....this clip still takes my breath away<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br />the privacy for him and his children<br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br />his family for sure<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br />I think so......look at all his work.............everytime we think he is gone "there he is again" <br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br />Not so sure about this one....I hope so and if he does I hope I notice <br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br />years at least but not done untill nesseccery<br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br />Im sure we have but not sure what yet<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br />hmmmmm i dunno mostly that he is just gone.....i am a lifelong MJ fan:)<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br />I watch a few and all of them have more info than i would ever be able to find<br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br />the actual day i think we have gotten alittle away from it and it has the most evidence <br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br />the helicopter ride i show everyone cuz i believe its the biggest thing.....I dont know three things off the top of my head though....will get back to you on this<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br />That he planned a death hoax whether he lived or died so that for us he would live forever either way <br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br />not much about this has me laughing<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br /><br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=24091.0
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br />diggyon <br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br /><br />I learned of Michael Jackson's death from the newspaper. I normally feel sad when people die, even if I don't know them. But when I read the article I was shocked because I didn't expect him to die this tragic way. As the article was not informative enough I decided to dig deeper and see what exactly happened to him. As I was looking for more articles days after June 25th the word "fake death" caught my eyes. So I decided to dig deeper and deeper. <br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />At the very beginning I thought that he was sick and tired of his life because celebrities can't lead a normal life like every one else. But after following the hoax I discovered that there are so many reasons.<br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />The family, Kenny Ortega, FBI, CIA, President Obama, Conrad Murray, TMZ, Pearl Jr., The estate, Lisa Marie Presley, close friends and staff.<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br /><br />I think he'll come back in his own time but I don't know how!<br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br /><br />I believe he reads the forum and he posts as a very normal user. I have decided not to suspect anyone. <br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br /><br /> I learned from the forum that the hoax was in the planning for more than 20 years. <br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />Michael's heath condition<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />Paris's speech. She broke my heart. But it was necessary for the hoax. I also don't like the fact that the children are involved in the hoax. <br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br /><br />I think Jonell star's videos are very good. I also like Piano games' channel. I was always waiting for his new videos because he was revealing so many clues.<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br /><br />Yes I do.<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />The funeral and the memorial, clues in the movies..<br /> <br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />The family not grieving neither at the memorial nor at the funeral (Prince chewing gum at daddy's memorial! ! lol) (Jermaine was able to sing so perfectly at the memorial ! ) <br /><br />Dave Dave's interview with Larry King<br /><br />The bogus trial<br /><br /><br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br /><br />Telling people that Michael Jackson is still alive is the craziest thing any believer could say. When I learned about the hoax I was so excited and I wanted to tell every one I know about it. Whenever I talked about it people used look at me and say:" of course he is alive and Elvis is alive too. So you're one of those id****.. (i prefer not continue lol) <br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br /><br />This
> <br /><br />because I know Michael is hiding in plain sight watching us go insane ! <br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br /><br />I think we have been questioning every thing since the hoax started. But I would like to know if there are still clues out there that we have missed<br />
<br />WHO DID DELETE MY POST?? PLS I NEED AN ANSWER.<br />
<br /><br />SANTA CLAUS
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br /><br />Gwynned, never changed<br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br />After seeing TII the 2nd time I was sure he was murdered and watched a couple of videos suggesting the Illuminati killed him. Then I noticed a video on Youtube by Jonnell Star and I was hooked!<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br />I think the hoax is part of an overall plan to defeat the rulers of the world who have used their control over the media, governments, financial institutions and religions to hoodwink the sleeping masses. The result has been near destruction of the planet and a dulled, self indulgent population that, left unchecked, threatened a Hunger Games scenario for the children of the future. <br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br />All of Hollywood.<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br />Yes. So many signs point to a return, including the constant reminders of the MJ name, whether it be in the gossip columns, mention by other prominent stars, new albums, and most recently the hologram. Five seems to be a big number, V (V for Vendetta) being the Latin equivalent and prominent in the hoax, so I am guessing this year (2014). I am assuming he will land his space ship in my yard, knock on the front and ask me to marry him. In all seriousness, I have no idea and expect to be as surprised as anyone else.<br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect? Absolutely. I have plenty of suspicions but don't want to out anyone!<br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain. That is a tough one, but I'm going to say 50 years because I see the hoax as a part of something else that began with the (faked) assassination of JFK. <br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what? Given the scope of the forum, no. However, what interests me most is how the hoax connects to other seemingly non related events, such as V. Stiviano's exposure of Donald Sterling<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less? Family drama.<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel? There are so many, it would be difficult to choose. Jonnell Star is hard to beat as an intro, but I remember being very moved by MagicalExscapism.<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ? Yep<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think? None that I can think of.<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />The autopsy photo, the unofficial death certificate, the different 911 recordings<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha. I believe Michael is preparing us for the Second Coming. <br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years? Conrad Murray's special! I laugh just thinking about it. <br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added? No one outside the hoax could possibly understand how investigating the death hoax of a pop star can change your life. So I am sending a big :bearhug: to everyone here for sharing so many precious and crazy moments. <br /><br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24091.html
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br />Unbreakable1 was Terror2k10 .<br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br /><br />It started the same day I found out about the death. I had a funny feeling then found derick clonz site then the original mj death hoax site and I was convinced something was going on.<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />I think he showed us in ghosts video that some people just wanted him out of the picture. So he did but the thing is he is not where they think he is "dead" he really is in a place with no name because no one knows where he is.But he is still watching everything,Until it IS TIME TO FINISH IT. Unfinished BUsiness.<br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />His family,Lawyers,FBI,Murray and maybe a few others.<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return.<br /><br />I think he always planned to return and he knows you give just enough to keep the people wanting even more and after the bma award show I feel like I miss him even more which is what i feel he wanted.MJ never goes small time,one time he was asked what would you like to do in the future." his answer "Shock the World".So It has to be something big where the whole world is watching.<br /><br />Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect? <br /><br />I believe he has written on the forums,I have a feeling he has been multiple people in the hoax,but conrad is one i got a feeling from when he speaks in MJ like words.<br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning?<br /><br />I think this has been in the planning before the pepsi accident,so in the 80s is my answer.<br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />Of course we had to miss some stuff when you look really hard i feel it is easy to miss the little clues. But we believed and I think that is a huge thing because we saw through the lies.<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />The accusations being brought back about child molestation,but I feel that is the way to ruin the mans name even after he is not around to defend himself.<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel? There are so many, it would be difficult to choose. tie = Jonnell Star and pearl have some good ones.<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ? <br /><br />I do not think that was the man at o2 arena.that was just my first impression and I am sticking with that.that walk he had when he walked in there did not seem like the man.<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />None I think we are ready for the greatest show to begin,lets just wait.<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />His music speaks volumes to me.the Autopsy picture and death certificate. There is just so much to question i could go on and on.<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share!<br /><br />Well my belief is that in this world sometimes be it God or the creator send us a person with such a good heart that they have the ability to grab the attention of the world. If these people become to big of a threat,they are assasinated. Mj was getting to vocal so he became a threat and knew they were out to get him. But the smooth criminal outsmarted them and hoaxed his death before they could actually kill him.<br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years? Conrad Murray's special! <br /><br />The dave dave interview,it just felt like I was watching Mj before my eyes,making fools of the world and non-believers. Like in your face do you know who I am?<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br /><br />I just think we should just keep watching I feel things are gearing towards its climax. :multiplespotting:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br /><br />kruszkova<br /><br />2.What made you look into the hoax and when?<br /><br />I don't remember exactly but I think it was about 2010 - but I had a lot stuff in my mind and it was just an information, now I have time to watch, think etc.<br />It started when I explored the Illuminati.<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />Honestly I don't know. I feel close to him but for real I don't know him and it can be everything. But I have a little idea - I think it can be because of one simply reason - he doesn't want new lies, tabloids, I think he was feared that his image will be worse and worse, he doesn't want to be remember as a person as tabloids writes. <br />And i think the other possibility is desire to live a normal life. Because he never had that and he couldn't even try like he tried with the case of childhood.<br />He could be tired that is all. <br /><br />4.Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />For sure Murray, doctors, lawyers, family<br /><br /><br />5.Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return.<br /><br />In my opinion he wants to come back. But maybe something happened while this time of hiding and he will not.<br />Maybe everything will be okay but someone will not let him and give him reason why he should not to. <br />He wants to come back from his heart but if we are talking about mind - I don't think so.<br />He made do much things to leave and you know he did it for some reason, not a little reason. So why should he. <br />But IF i will die haha<br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect? <br /><br />I don't know if he reads this forum but he reads internet for sure, or people who are in the hoax. They have to know what people know and MJ was always curious of everything. <br />And he is so happy that fans are believing and loving him even if he is not here <br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning?<br /><br />I think he always had a thinks like that but a real planning started about 2005. <br /><br />8.Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />Oh boy sure we missed something it is impossible not to miss. But I don't know what.<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />Conrad Murray he is so weird <br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel? There are so many, it would be difficult to choose. tie = Jonnell Star and pearl have some good ones<br /><br />I like series "MJ is alive? The weird list (part X)"<br /><br />11.Do you think O2 guy was MJ? <br /><br />Oh yes of course it was him. He acted weird but it was him I have no doubt for that.<br /><br />12 What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />Don't know.<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?'<br /><br />Umm I like this question.<br />So for sure it would be -<br />- death certificat<br />- calling for 911 (from other adress)<br />- behavior of his family and friends<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share!<br /><br />Omg yes of course. <br />I am not a believer if we talk about God BUT I believe in something. I don't know what - maybe in good. So I believe that MJ was a test for a people. You know h e could be even a Jesus and people would not believe him and do things they did. It is sad but a right value system is not wanted. You know he was so good that people thought "he is so weird" <br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years? <br /><br />Joe Jackson.<br /><br />
Just joined...however I have studied the forum for the past two years. As a newbie, I will give a few of these questions a shot.<br /><br />1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br /><br />Echo. Always the same.<br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br /><br />To start I was bewildered by the MJ TII press conference. The energy was off. A disconnect. Then the 50 performances tour...over the top and unrealistic. Perplexing...did not harp, just sat back and watched it all unfold.<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />Too complex for me to phantom. To hide? To stop the downward spiral? Recovery? Rejuvenation?<br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />100%? MJ and I cannot name the other. Too controversial. Anyone else involved are pawns. <br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br /><br />If he comes back, he will be un recognizable to the masses. And he may be back. However, MJ will not return as a public figure because it was grueling and cruel. <br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br /><br />Hmmmmmmm. Read? Yes. His ego drives his curiosity. Posts? Most likely not.<br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br /><br />Clueless.<br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />No opinion.<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />The public appearances and interviews of those that are involved. If you cannot tell the truth, then just don't say anything.<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br /><br />Not one stands out.<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br /><br />No.<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />Discuss more about the attending medical staff at the hospital. <br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />I do not think that I can make a non-believer reconsider. I will ask a non-believer to think about this, people reveal that they are hiding something by the way that they hide it. A non-believer needs to apply himself or herself to study and make their own conclusion. <br /><br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br /><br />I believe that when Jermaine used the word "airport " instead of "hospital" that it was a genuine Freudian slip. <br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br /><br />Dr. Conrad Murray's girlfriend on the witness stand. A train wreck.<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br /><br />No, not at this time.<br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24091.html
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br />Its her, the same, yesterday, today and could be 4ever. <br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br />The interview at Neverland with Larry King, Jermaine and his “flies circus” :thjajaja121:, suggesting that something smells about everything Jermaine says, or even at Neverland in general!<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br />Multiple personal reasons (lifelong, heartfelt personal goals behind the scenes, such as "loosing the bonds of wickedness, opening eyes, setting the captives free, turning many to righteousness", oh, and revealing his massive 30 year Illusion :icon_e_surprised:, etc ), but mostly to top everything ANY performer has ever done, as The Greatest Show On Earth, [glow=red,2,300]Ever[/glow].<br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br />I believe MJ has had people keeping his secrets, small and large, since the mid 70s, beginning with concealing his birth certificate (I don’t think it was concealed until then)! Those in on the Hoax include everyone in the Liberian Girl, This Is It, and MJ Death, Memorial & Funeral films; Every celebrity who has also mysteriously “died” under dramatic, almost soap opera circumstances (David Carradine, JFK Junior), especially with a significant other (of theirs) dying soon after; Michael’s immediate family, friends and everyone on his payroll, including those who said :icon_albino: they “dressed” or we “saw”, :icon_rolleyes: handle his “corpse”; Every celebrity who has publicly commented on his death, including President Obama, Donald Trump, Paul McCartney, Larry King and Whitney Houston, who whadda ya know, has died herself, now! I also believe that he has cleared such a humongous cloak and dagger deception with National Security, for legal reasons and his own safety (the government :suspect: doesn’t like grandiose surprises which make them appear inept and stooge-like), which would necessarily include the President of the U.S., and as many Federal and local law enforcement people as it takes to turn a blind eye on purpose to things which are part and parcel of MJ’s Illusion. Also every person who has assisted MJ in OTHER hoaxes, probably as practice efforts leading up to the REAL THING, such as his fake marriages and fake Pepsi commercial mishap. His Hoax Biographers Randy Taraborelli and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach :icon_eek: , and all his attorneys! It would be quicker to name those NOT in on this hoax. :LolLolLolLol: Oh yeah, Evan Chandler, Jack Nicholson, and Dame Elizabeth Taylor, too. She would not have cooked in the heat for hours at his funeral unless she knew HE would know and be disappointed if she simply sneaked out sparing herself that torture! She knew he had not died. <br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br />Of course he will come back---what kind of movie plays no ending credits?? What kind of actor in a play takes NO bow at the end????? But, will anyone believe it is really him? Nah. His own long time fans don’t even recognize him now from the millions of pictures of his doubles. When and how? Errr, “Remember remember, the 5th of November…” Idk how, but I expect some fireworks. Perhaps he is making a movie for theater release, an O.J. type narrative called "How I Did It" which the trailer will suggest another kind of movie, but he will :WTF: really use to 'splain THAT he did it (Hoax his death) and how. :icon_e_wink: Don't choke on yer popcorn, when he walks back in to yer life!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: ha ha ha ha <br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br />Heck, YES! He LIKES to watch. (And, I think he simply can’t resist playing with us!) Not to mention the pure genius, of inventing a way to anonymously keep his finger on Fan Pulse, so he can act accordingly if it begins to weaken (or, race dangerously :icon_e_wink:)…I have had many suspects. When I actually believe the person we think we “know” as “Michael Jackson” is not a fictional character being played by cleverly handpicked actors, but a puppet Master lurking over his favorite project, I suspect :animal0017: those who display a certain wry and challenging wit, almost mocking us. Remember, this is a guy who believes he can get with any female on earth, according to the conversation leading into the album song, You Rock My World. The “peacockery” (display and stomp ) is unmistakable to me in certain posts, but whether I am right or not remains to be seen. I suspect “he” has spoken to every one of us at one time or another. Very, very sociable and quietly friendly guy. Makes you wish he was real. <br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br />THIS Hoax was seeded into being in the late seventies. I think he spent at least a decade perfecting his magic trickery and effects for his live shows, and when his solo Thriller film took off like wildfire, he realized that he could actually pull even a Rabbit of THIS magnitude out of his hat. He’s stated that since his dad Joseph scared him that one night by appearing in the open window wearing some frightful mask, he NEVER forgot that FEELING (of THRILLING FRIGHT and of course in his Moonwalker book, he shared his heartfelt dream to MAKE people FEEL things very strongly through his work). What’s more rattling than shock and fear and death? And, to take the edge off it all, he DID foretell it all in his lyrics over the years, what he WOULD do---just so as not to give anyone a [size=18pt]real [/size]heart attack. But of course, EVERYONE completely forgot it-- if anyone ever DID even get what he was doing, beforehand, and the world cried like the brokenhearted hopeless anyway!<br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br />Yesssssssss! I think we need to take another, deep look at the Liberian Girl video. And I also wonder why NO one has mentioned that the movie Men In Black is on TV two - four times a week ALL this year so far! I’ve never seen a movie played so much in my entire life watching TV. I believe there is something in that movie which relates to this Hoax, and that it will keep playing until someone spots it. It dawned on me a few years ago, that if an industrious individual had a burning desire to make movies all his life, he would NOT wait until he was middle aged to do it! Someone else might, “after the kids leave the nest” or, to gather some start-up money, or some other excuse, but NOT Michael Jackson, someone whose every project turns automatically into pure gold, WHY would HE wait until he was fifty years old and now that movies are mostly digital??? I think he has been making movies since the eighties, no matter WHOSE names are on them. :icon_eek: And Men In Black is significant to this Hoax in a big way, whether he made it, wrote it, or as a sponsor, just tucked something into it, subliminally, as Hollywood is notorious for. What else could [glow=red,2,300]Keep Watchin [/glow]mean?? Unless he meant keep watchin for JESUS, but it seems to me that that has been abandoned here, right? or not? :icon_e_confused:<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br />Vicious arguing between fellow BeLIEvers. Not so much anymore, but it has been hairy at times. So unpleasant. Passengers here, on this adventure, saying say rude things under cloak of Usernames, with no respect or consideration for a fellow rider’s feelings, which they would never say to anyone in person. (Which they would never say to MJ himself or anyone representing him as an insider here, either, if they knew.) Some of it may have been started by Mr. “Wanna Be Startin Somethin” himself ???, but, it’s still the part I liked least.<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br />I don’t think “MJ” is MJ!! I think he has consistently hired that part out after Thriller… :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br />Liberian Girl short film, and why each person is in Michael’s video? What do each of them have to do with MJ? Also, films which have Michaelish elements in them, possibly on purpose, as pawprint-proofs leading straight to him!!!!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br />{One} would be the uncanny, spot on mention or actual predictions in his works, lyrics and short films, of events, situations, sentiments and people :icon_exclaim: <br />{Two} would be “The Estate” hitting the ground RUNNING, with regard to tripling his net worth, when his death was supposedly a paralyzing shock to everybody. Sudden death tends to bring everyone to their knees for a good while, not instantly mobilize personnel enough to crank out three Hoax films and what else do ya know? A live Hoax Death website (Amy's, I mean) <br /><br />{Three} would be just the speed with which the whole CIRCUS sprung up right on the tail of the reported “death”, as if it were serious, expeditious, :omg: :omg: damage control :affraid: :affraid:. There was the “announcement” of MJ taken to the hospital and a small vigil of locals outside holding their breaths, then, at the hour of death and into the night, hoards of overwrought people sobbing their hearts out. I think maybe three of them interviewed were MJ-plants, to dramatize the mourning process---especially the chubby lady holding her little boy to her chest and scaring him to death, bawling all over him as if MJ was his daddy... but the MILLIONS of OTHER sobbing people were very real, and it appeared to me to be the world’s turn to shock MJ out of his royal sox, and into scurrying to stop all the real crying he really, really had not prepared himself for :icon_exclaim: This guy scripts e v e r y thing, even some hysterical mourners...and I felt some apprehensive alarm there--hard to describe---when the audience took over the "stage" there, and almost became the story!! THE very NEXT DAY, Larry King and Jermaine Jackson played like Groucho and Harpo Marx (respectively), at Neverland. Then Auntie Jemima (the syrup lady), MJ’s “spiritual advisor” came out of the woodwork saying he was begging her for drugs…<br /><br />On Thursday when a newsman was all choked up as he reported MJ dead, I believed it was real. :'( But by Monday, not so much. It was just too ridiculous, even though it got worse and worse, over the top! the details, I mean. I posted already on this subject somewhere here, and I have used these arguments on non believers without success. But, whatever; Jesus predicted once that sometimes people won’t even believe when one “comes back from the dead”. I know that is true! If MJ does reappear, swearing that this whole death adventure was a Hoax, some will still not believe it. He already knows this and had documented proofs over and over in his work and history that yes, it HAS been planned and carried out according to that plan since whenever he thought it up. The truth will be in the math, I think.<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br />I KNOW people already think I am crazy. If I told you, it would frighten the crap out of you. I think Michael Jackson discovered something when he was studying the human brain, and when he exposes this, it WILL be the greatest demonstration of freedom EVER--just as someone said!! :bowdown: :bowdown: Go WATCH Men In Black. People will not believe it, but he will be able to prove he has used this :icon_albino: technology himself on the world to accomplish his Illusion. <br />It’s not the ONLY thing this Hoax will have accomplished, but everything he has planned is related to RE-conditioning folk to think for themselves, to right wrongs, and to give everyone with “an ear to hear” the facts they have needed for decades and decades in order [size=14pt]TO[/size] think correctly for themselves. There will be some who will go back asleep, just as surely as a person rolls over on their other side to continue sleeping, though awakened briefly, but it won’t be that he didn’t change the rest of their world, ANYWAY, too. :michael_jackson-1135: ??? :over-react-smiley:. For some of us, he’s had our full, rapt attention for five years. Souza said he was trying to make us SEE. I think his reappearance will be the other shock, the second "shoe drop", the :icon_e_biggrin: awaited shock, one more chance to wake everyone up, so as many as possible can “see”. :multiplespotting:<br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br />Jermaine's flies---SO annoying :icon_lol: until I calmed down and "got it"--- omiGOSH!; the notion of Michael Jackson begging for anything from anyone, let alone drugs :TongueOutSmiley: ; my being referred to as “Its who”. :icon_e_surprised: Hysterical! And, way before that, Ginafelicia remarked one time, in her way, “Why oh why, am I here obsessing over Michael Jackson, when I should be out spending my husband’s money?” I thought, “WHAT?? :icon_e_surprised: YEAH, does the guy even know your heart is not his???” But then I realized no one could resist Michael Jackson’s spell, and yes, you know her sweety had to wait around for her to get her “MJDHI fix” every day. Hah ha ha ha. :icon_lol: That tickled me for months---picturing every time she posted, her husband and his money with cobwebs on them, in the back seat of the Hoax coach, while she worried about MJ online!! She was funnier than cr@p. Haven’t heard from her in a while. :icon_e_sad:<br />Oh, and I think Michael Jackson is [size=24pt]THE[/size] nuttiest. I’ve enjoyed discovering this. I never knew. :icon_e_biggrin:<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br />Yes. I wanted to explore more, what “new career” or shocking new turn in life MJ could possibly have planned for himself, which he or others thought might anger or upset some of his fans. We talked about it a while back, for a few pages and then, without coming to any conclusions, nevermore. We know he has been at work these last five years, producing all kinds of entertainment. When is this change in his career, supposedly, to commence? Is it one of those, "Is That Scary For Ya?", just a rumor to make us all mad, or has he already shifted into his new career, right under our noses? I think the latter. But it’s nothing to get huffy about, so maybe I am wrong. Any thoughts? Also, I think we've become quite a little club here, and as such we should each be issued a Secret Decoder Ring :icon_exclaim: :icon_bounce: :icon_albino: :bearhug:<br /><br />JK. :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24091.0.html<br />
I know I've said it many times before but I love your writing Its her! I don't agree with everything you say but it would certainly be amazingly awesome if the gist of your theory ever turns out to be correct. I don't have your confidence, but you always remind me of how it might be, and take me to a happy place, even if just for a few moments! :icon_e_biggrin:
<br />I know I've said it many times before but I love your writing Its her! I don't agree with everything you say but it would certainly be amazingly awesome if the gist of your theory ever turns out to be correct. I don't have your confidence, but you always remind me of how it might be, and take me to a happy place, even if just for a few moments! :icon_e_biggrin:<br />
<br /><br />Aaaaaawwwwww! :bearhug: Thank you for telling me! :icon_e_smile:
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br /><br />Iamhere4mj – on here, yes<br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br /><br />I was at work when I heard the news and just like everyone else I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. As I watched all of the news reports that night calmness overcame me and I knew Michael was alive. The reason is very personal and for some it would sound absolutely bizarre.<br /><br />Maybe this belongs in question 14! LOL!<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />I believe that the hoax was not to be as it has turned out to be.<br /><br />I think Michael was pulling off the hoax to get back at the media (it started with that radio show) and to see how the world really viewed him but something happened. Either he or his kids were in danger and something had to be done.<br /> <br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />Most of the Jackson family, Kenny, Travis, some of the This Is It crew, Branca and McClain, FBI, some of the LAPD, Conrad Murray, Nicole Alvarez, Alberto Alvarez, his kids of course, Randy Phillips and so on.<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br /><br />I have believed with my whole heart that Michael would return up until recently. Maybe because so much time has gone by and there is less and less information being reported, but then I go over everything again and I ask myself, how could he not come back?<br /><br />There is no way he would be away from his kids forever. I do think he sees them but not as much as he should.<br /><br />Michael will slip in quietly (maybe as Miss Blondie), play with us and then BAM! Not sure of any specific date though.<br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br /><br />You bet he reads the forums – I believe he was also on the LKL blogs! I don’t know if he posts on forums but every once in a while there is a post that comes out of nowhere and you never see another post from that person again.<br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br /><br />I think Michael had thought about a hoax many times over the years but every time it was about to happen something delayed it. But it couldn’t be delayed anymore.<br /><br />I think it started when he left the US in 2005. <br /><br />Does everyone remember the recording studio he was at in 2006?<br /><br />Well on their website after Michael passed, there was this:<br /><br />After being left fall into a dilapidated state, the stud farm and house was purchased by Paddy and Claire Dunning, the owners of the award-winning Grouse Lodge Recording Studios and Coolatore House. It was purchased in trust for their client, Mr. Michael Jackson, who had hand-picked the house to become his Irish estate. Michael was recording nearby and had a deep love for Ireland. Creatively and personally the country allowed him a freedom he had not experienced in years. And the first stages of what would have been the comeback of the century were plotted in Westmeath. Working with the very best in local labour and working to designs Jackson had made with a local architect. Amongst many features was a state-of-the-art wooden extension which features four brand-new bathrooms and culminates in a spectacular roof garden with 360 degree panoramic views of the Westmeath countryside.<br /><br />Sadly, he never got to see the finished house which Paddy and Claire, who are also members of the Georgian society, restored to its former glory in 2009. The future is what you make of it.<br /><br />The above has been replaced with this:<br /><br />After being left fall into a dilapidated state, the stud farm and house was purchased by Paddy and Claire Dunning, the owners of the award-winning Grouse Lodge Recording Studios and Coolatore House and members of the Georgian society. It was restored to its former glory in 2009 and is now available for rent.<br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />Because of all of the information that we have and at the speed it was given, we have overlooked a lot of things and should always go back in time and re-look at things. <br /><br />Since I am somewhat new here, I haven’t had a chance to go over all of the posts and see what has been talked about.<br /><br />My favorites are the autopsy report, the ambulance at the hospital (that day and the other day) and the 02 press conference.<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />All of the bickering.<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br /><br />I don’t watch hoax videos anymore.<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br /><br />YES!<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />Who is buried at Forest Lawn?<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />I only need one: Listen to the beginning of Hold My Hand. Michael says I’m Alive and akon says They got it MJ. <br /><br />What more proof do you need than Michael saying he is alive and akon confirming what the believers have known all along?<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br /><br />I believe there are two Michaels. And who would be the other Michael? I believe it’s Brandon, Marlon’s twin.<br /><br />1. That odd statement from Marlon about Brandon at the memorial and a transcript that I found from CNN where someone stated that Brandon had spearheaded the whole thing.<br />2. There are 10 children depicted in the Michael cd mural – Brandon is painted in as being around 12 years old and if you look close enough it is like he is hiding between Michael and Marlon.<br />And who could look more like Michael other than a family member?<br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br /><br />Probably when Blanket wiped his hand on his mouth and then shook Oprah’s hand during the interview with the kids and Katherine and Joe.<br /><br />The most surprised moment was when Miss Katherine stated in the Oprah interview that Dr. Murray told her that Michael was no longer with them. All along it had been made to be that there was no contact between Murray and the family at the hospital.<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br /><br />I’ve been going through the autopsy threads and maybe I missed it, but I’m not seeing anything discussing the diabetes test that had been done. It came back that the diabetes was well under control.<br /><br />If that autopsy was not on Michael and Michael didn’t have diabetes, then who was that test done on? Or does Michael have diabetes?<br /><br />Also, there are huge similarities between Michael’s and Whitney’s deaths. It is a possibility that Whitney is still alive.<br />
<br />1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br /><br />Iamhere4mj – on here, yes<br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br /><br />I was at work when I heard the news and just like everyone else I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. As I watched all of the news reports that night calmness overcame me and I knew Michael was alive. The reason is very personal and for some it would sound absolutely bizarre.<br /><br />Maybe this belongs in question 14! LOL!<br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />I believe that the hoax was not to be as it has turned out to be.<br /><br />I think Michael was pulling off the hoax to get back at the media (it started with that radio show) and to see how the world really viewed him but something happened. Either he or his kids were in danger and something had to be done.<br /> <br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />Most of the Jackson family, Kenny, Travis, some of the This Is It crew, Branca and McClain, FBI, some of the LAPD, Conrad Murray, Nicole Alvarez, Alberto Alvarez, his kids of course, Randy Phillips and so on.<br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br /><br />I have believed with my whole heart that Michael would return up until recently. Maybe because so much time has gone by and there is less and less information being reported, but then I go over everything again and I ask myself, how could he not come back?<br /><br />There is no way he would be away from his kids forever. I do think he sees them but not as much as he should.<br /><br />Michael will slip in quietly (maybe as Miss Blondie), play with us and then BAM! Not sure of any specific date though.<br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br /><br />You bet he reads the forums – I believe he was also on the LKL blogs! I don’t know if he posts on forums but every once in a while there is a post that comes out of nowhere and you never see another post from that person again.<br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br /><br />I think Michael had thought about a hoax many times over the years but every time it was about to happen something delayed it. But it couldn’t be delayed anymore.<br /><br />I think it started when he left the US in 2005. <br /><br />Does everyone remember the recording studio he was at in 2006?<br /><br />Well on their website after Michael passed, there was this:<br /><br />After being left fall into a dilapidated state, the stud farm and house was purchased by Paddy and Claire Dunning, the owners of the award-winning Grouse Lodge Recording Studios and Coolatore House. It was purchased in trust for their client, Mr. Michael Jackson, who had hand-picked the house to become his Irish estate. Michael was recording nearby and had a deep love for Ireland. Creatively and personally the country allowed him a freedom he had not experienced in years. And the first stages of what would have been the comeback of the century were plotted in Westmeath. Working with the very best in local labour and working to designs Jackson had made with a local architect. Amongst many features was a state-of-the-art wooden extension which features four brand-new bathrooms and culminates in a spectacular roof garden with 360 degree panoramic views of the Westmeath countryside.<br /><br />Sadly, he never got to see the finished house which Paddy and Claire, who are also members of the Georgian society, restored to its former glory in 2009. The future is what you make of it.<br /><br />The above has been replaced with this:<br /><br />After being left fall into a dilapidated state, the stud farm and house was purchased by Paddy and Claire Dunning, the owners of the award-winning Grouse Lodge Recording Studios and Coolatore House and members of the Georgian society. It was restored to its former glory in 2009 and is now available for rent.<br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />Because of all of the information that we have and at the speed it was given, we have overlooked a lot of things and should always go back in time and re-look at things. <br /><br />Since I am somewhat new here, I haven’t had a chance to go over all of the posts and see what has been talked about.<br /><br />My favorites are the autopsy report, the ambulance at the hospital (that day and the other day) and the 02 press conference.<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />All of the bickering.<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br /><br />I don’t watch hoax videos anymore.<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br /><br />YES!<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />Who is buried at Forest Lawn?<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />I only need one: Listen to the beginning of Hold My Hand. Michael says I’m Alive and akon says They got it MJ. <br /><br />What more proof do you need than Michael saying he is alive and akon confirming what the believers have known all along?<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br /><br />I believe there are two Michaels. And who would be the other Michael? I believe it’s Brandon, Marlon’s twin.<br /><br />1. That odd statement from Marlon about Brandon at the memorial and a transcript that I found from CNN where someone stated that Brandon had spearheaded the whole thing.<br />2. There are 10 children depicted in the Michael cd mural – Brandon is painted in as being around 12 years old and if you look close enough it is like he is hiding between Michael and Marlon.<br />And who could look more like Michael other than a family member?<br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br /><br />[size=24pt]Probably when Blanket wiped his hand on his mouth and then shook Oprah’s hand during the interview with the kids and Katherine and Joe.[/size]<br /><br />The most surprised moment was when Miss Katherine stated in the Oprah interview that Dr. Murray told her that Michael was no longer with them. All along it had been made to be that there was no contact between Murray and the family at the hospital.<br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br /><br />I’ve been going through the autopsy threads and maybe I missed it, but I’m not seeing anything discussing the diabetes test that had been done. It came back that the diabetes was well under control.<br /><br />If that autopsy was not on Michael and Michael didn’t have diabetes, then who was that test done on? Or does Michael have diabetes?<br /><br />Also, there are huge similarities between Michael’s and Whitney’s deaths. It is a possibility that Whitney is still alive.<br />
<br /><br />Yes that was "fun" lol :LolLolLolLol:......but wait and see Blanket in "action" again ,he did not want to be kissed by Toy .The way he turned his head tho lol :icon_lol: ! <br /><br />
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?<br /><br />My username is NJackSwing91 and it has remained the same since I started posting (which was fairly recent). <br /><br />2. What made you look into the hoax and when?<br /><br />I started looking into the hoax after watching MJ music videos, which was earlier this summer. I was surprised to see the videos for Hold My Hand and Hollywood Tonight because I didn’t realize they had released an album in 2010. Starting in the Fall 2008 up until a couple years ago, I had some personal/family hardships so I couldn’t keep up with MJ news. I was devastated when they reported his ‘death’ in 2009. I remember hearing about the trials afterwards, but couldn’t look into them more. <br /><br />3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?<br /><br />I believe his reasons to hoax his death has something to do with the 2005 trial. <br /><br />4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?<br /><br />Everyone that was at Carolwood that morning on 6/25/2009 (Conrad, security, children, nannies, cook), paramedics, high-ranking individuals that work at UCLA Medical Center, and high-ranking individuals that work for the government (local, state, and federal) know the details on how Mj faked his death that day, although not everyone knows why, where to find him, or what he's up to right now. I believe there are many others that know MJ had faked his death, but were never given the details on how he pulled it off or where he is located. They were simply paid off to do a certain task and then keep their mouth shut (Coroner, medical professionals during the trial, AEG, some people at Sony). I think the less information they know the more likely the hoax will work. I think the Jackson family did not know immediately that MJ faked his death, but have eventually learned about it through their network of people (except Jermaine…I think he knows everything). They, too, do not have information about how it was done or where to find MJ. <br /><br />5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?<br /><br />Yes, I believe MJ will return, but he will make it appear as if he wasn’t planning to return at all. He would plan it out as if someone had slowly uncovered all the facts and then call him out on it revealing his exact location. OR he would make it look like he had been kidnapped. I think he is waiting to uncover some truth about people behind the 2005 trial. <br /><br />6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?<br /><br />I believe MJ reads the forum as an observer. <br /><br />7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.<br /><br />I believe MJ has been planning his death since the end of the 2005 trial and that he used help from the Nation of Islam. When I say this, I don’t mean the Nation itself (as an organization) was involved, just that Mj used members of the Nation to help him. He had to wait a few years to pull this off because of the Marc Schaffel and Deiter Weisner lawsuits, but also to collect more information on people. <br /><br />8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?<br /><br />I’m still reading through previous posts, so I don’t know yet if anything has been overlooked.<br /><br />9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?<br /><br />I don’t like reading tabloids. They have nothing to do with the hoax. But, I end up reading their reports anyway looking for clues or inconsistencies.<br /><br />10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?<br /><br />The best hoax video I’ve found so far is the one where they research the origins of the stretcher seen in the gurney picture. The stretcher he is laying on is from early 2002 and UCLA no longer used this type of stretcher in 2009. I like the channel MJHoax4Believers the best. I also follow Pearl Jr. videos.<br /><br />11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?<br /><br />Yes<br /><br />12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?<br /><br />I think we should discuss the 2005 trial more. Is it a coincidence that there now has been child abuse allegations once every decade since the 90s? There are people behind this and I think MJ is trying to reveal them. They may be persons that we may not even know.<br /><br />13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?<br /><br />The Weekly World News re-posting that MJ would fake his death on 6/20/09. Someone must have known what was going on or MJ was behind this. The second one would be the stretcher video I spoke of earlier. I can’t think of a third one, yet.<br /><br />14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.<br /><br />I believe members of the Nation of Islam have helped immensely in the planning and the execution of the ‘faked death.’ There are some aspects of the hoax that they do not oversee (like the Sony Believe Campaign). I believe MJ has different people working on different parts of the hoax. Right now, I believe some members of the NOI are working with MJ to help uncover truth about people behind the 2005 trial. The Nation and its members are still a mystery to me, but I hope to do more research on them especially people associated with MJ and his family. I read a lot of news reports that are unfavorable to the Nation and I don't completely agree with some of the Nation's views or beliefs. But, this is a very large organization with a large network of people and may have the resources to help with the hoax. Also, some members may only follow the Nation to a certain extent and not actually convert. <br /><br />15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?<br /><br />I don’t think I laughed really hard at anything the past 5 years. Again, I had some things going on in my life so I couldn’t really pay attention. <br /><br />16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?<br /><br />No.
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."