And I am just as sure that he is alive, and will come back in his own time as Michael the man and not Michael the performer! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
And I am just as sure that he is alive, and will come back in his own time as Michael the man and not Michael the performer! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I agree with you. I just wish everyone would stop talking about Michael not coming back or when he will come back or that he's really dead. I strongly believe that if you don't have hope any longer than please don't come on and post negative topics. Those of us that are veterans have been to hell and back for almost a year now. We have the faith to know that the truth will be revealed in due time. We don't post negative topics. Sometimes, it's just better not to say anything. I believe Michael is alive and in time the world will know the truth. Keep the Faith!
And I am just as sure that he is alive, and will come back in his own time as Michael the man and not Michael the performer! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I agree with you. I just wish everyone would stop talking about Michael not coming back or when he will come back or that he's really dead. I strongly believe that if you don't have hope any longer than please don't come on and post negative topics. Those of us that are veterans have been to hell and back for almost a year now. We have the faith to know that the truth will be revealed in due time. We don't post negative topics. Sometimes, it's just better not to say anything. I believe Michael is alive and in time the world will know the truth. Keep the Faith!
Hi There, your key phrase, "strongly believe" hits the nail on the head. I feel the question over whether MJ is dead or alive is a mote point! I did some research on Google a long time ago and found out that it is illegal to bury someone in the US without a signed death certificate! So that alone sealed it for me. All the rest, such as no reference to his death in "This Is It" is simply icing on the cake! Faith conquers all!
well, the movie thing might be a little far fetched. but i am really starting to believe he was in trouble, he feared for his life. his family keeps saying it & he's even said it. so, that would be a very good reason to hoax your own death & he may be being protected somewhere. this theory sounds more & more plausible everyday. he feared for his life, he knew the people that wanted to harm him, he went to authorities or whoever & they are protecting him. & now since people think he's dead they are able to track down the "bad guys" & take them down, making it safe for michael again. i don't see what sounds unlikely about that....in fact it is a huge possibility. conrad murray could either be a pawn used to out the real bad guys or he could be a doctor that was hired BY the bad guys & he's the first step in taking the bad guys down. latoya, jermaine & most of the rest of the family seem to be saying the same thing, michael was in danger & conrad murray didn't act alone & that they know who else was involved. how else would they know that? michael told them. & it is a huge coincidence that the day he "died" & was taken to the hospital the airport was shutdown for an hour, & jermaine out of nowhere confused hospital with airport. "he was no longer with us long before he arrived at the airport". really? that's too much. you're crazy if you don't hear that, think about the airport being shutdown & you don't go hmmm...that's weird. i wonder....
I completely agree!!!! Michael was in trouble, and this hoax wasn't something that was planned over night nor was he an over night sensation. The man was brilliant!!!! He knew the business very well (better than most major stars today), and I do believe that several people wanted to bring him down. His personal chef could've been involved, and drugging him--who knows. Throughout his life, there were very few people that he trusted. You've seen what type of friend Arnie Klein turned out to be. In due time the truth will will prevail but I doubt if he'd ever be safe after exposing such a thing. This thing could be so enormous with millions of dollars involved, I mean we're talking drug trafficking, embezzling, politics, etc. and much bigger than he could handle on his own. If he had to do all of this to be safe--it would be selfish of me to want him back simply for entertainment purposes.
He died and there are people from begining making us believe he is alive, even KO tried it with the end of TII because he knows this is a money machine, and other people tries it only because of the pleasure of being bad people, no one of these people who says Michael is alive has prooved it, we only have ridiculous proofs about Dave Dave and similar things that make people laugh ... I dont want a fight with believers against non believers but the seconds are mourning Michael and the first are laughing about his death.
I agree with the fact that there are lot of contradictions and weird things from beginning, that is why I began to believe....but I have seen lots of comments with jokes and laughs, and sorry but this seems disrespectful because nobody has the definitive proof about the hoax and it could be that Michael was really dead. The only sure thing we have is that he is gone, dead or hidden but gone.
And I am just as sure that he is alive, and will come back in his own time as Michael the man and not Michael the performer! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I agree with you. I just wish everyone would stop talking about Michael not coming back or when he will come back or that he's really dead. I strongly believe that if you don't have hope any longer than please don't come on and post negative topics. Those of us that are veterans have been to hell and back for almost a year now. We have the faith to know that the truth will be revealed in due time. We don't post negative topics. Sometimes, it's just better not to say anything. I believe Michael is alive and in time the world will know the truth. Keep the Faith!
Well said sweet1, I agree with all you have said. We have been here and on MJHD since day 1 and I believe MJ is alive. It's been a rollercoaster ride but i'm glad i've gone through it. It's after opening my eyes to the media and a hell of alot more that's going on in the world.
Laughing at him of course not !!! I am not saying this.....I mean people makes jokes about his death because they think he is alive and this is sad for me.... I would like to see more intelligent points of view instead of invented proofs and photoshoped pictures...because there are people who is really bad and are inventing stories, recording voices, editing videos and pictures to make us think he is alive, I am not saying everybody here is like that but I have seen this here and there....sorry for my bad english, I dont know how to explain things correctly <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
One more thing, I am a half believer, just like most of you.
michael like it simple
joseph died
joe not died
fraud, fake?? not at all
the king of pop (jermaine words) is dead
not michael joe jackson
i don´t think will be back as performer but he will let us now... he already did!
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Laughing at him of course not !!! I am not saying this.....I mean people makes jokes about his death because they think he is alive and this is sad for me.... I would like to see more intelligent points of view instead of invented proofs and photoshoped pictures...because there are people who is really bad and are inventing stories, recording voices, editing videos and pictures to make us think he is alive, I am not saying everybody here is like that but I have seen this here and there....sorry for my bad english, I dont know how to explain things correctly <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
One more thing, I am a half believer, just like most of you.
You know, guys, I believe that Michael is alive... very believe... But my common sense steps in more often and often.
So, you really think that MJ could do it with his Doctor? I mean, Michael was on his place and knew what feels there!
And now imagine that if Michael doesn't come back (it's possible, isn't it?) this man will live all his life as Jackson' murder!
Even if Mj returns you really think that the doctor would agree with the Hoax and voluntarily sacrifice his reputation and go through the court?
I'm difficult to believe in it because we all know Michael as a very kind-hearted man...
And I wanna say a couple of words about His family. We're trying hard to avoid a possibility that all of them are the Media people and can controll their feelings very well or... (I know it's very rude) they showed their real faces...
So, please, argue me out of it, because then I can believe completely and it's everything that I want.
EXUSE ME? He'll go in prison !?!?
He got so much money after his "death", he can easily bail himself out <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Sorry for bad English
ILOVEMJ how can u say that mike will come back it may be sooner or it may be later my cousin and a person on here have gone to a psichc and they bout said october my cousin gave in a pic in a envlope the pshic said the mike was alive cause the pic was warm my cousin asked will mike come back she din't say michael she said person any way my cousin said will he come back the pshic yes the person will come back my cousin asked when the pshic said i october my cousin din't tell me wath date and they did not go to the same pshic be cause i we live in ireland don't lose fate he will come back <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
So you nonbelievers actually think that there weren't any motives to fake his own death?
- Lesson to media
- Big loans
"Let me bathe in my own time when I come back in. I’m gonna button my shirt or my jacket or whatever it is. I’m gonna look around a little bit, play with them. Snap my fingers maybe, then BAM!" - Michael Jackson at the very end of "This Is It" film
After that we have seen in these months, I remain convinced that Michael is alive, but I’m not so sure that really he will return.
In that case, maybe he will find a way to confirm to everyone, including non-belivers, he is well and happy, but no more than that.
When I look at the end of the movie "This Is It" (with the music of "Man in the mirror"), it seems to me like a farewell to all and this makes me a little sad.
In the words "... snap my fingers maybe then bam ", I don' t know if "maybe" refers to "bam" or to “snap my fingers” (sorry, maybe it's because I do not know the English language so well).
In any case we'll see and I try to be positive.
First...... I just want to say that I lost hope many times since Michael died or "died".
But every time I think "this is it, he must be dead" something inside just doesn't want to believe it, my mind just can not accept it as long as we had NE title 6 months prior to June 25th saying that Michael Jackson will be dead in 6 months, as long as we have the weird O2 press conference, as long as we have Teddy Riley and Akon believing he is alive....... ok maybe the last 2 shouldn't count anyway because they could be motivated by money, even if I think they are rich enough to not do this to Michael for money....
Anyway, we have the strange Dave Dave appearance, we have Michael's own words in TII "it's an adventure, a great adventure, there's nothing to be nervous about" - he speaks like he is in charge of everything, giving the others directions of what is about to be...... having all these, even if often I lose hope, I still can not believe Michael is dead.
If MJ is alive, this isn't something he thought up to have fun and play a joke...he is in trouble. Latoya and Jermaine both eluded to the type of trouble he was in...believe what they say or not, the truth is, MJ was wanted dead and I am sure that if MJ really is dead...MJ never saw a bottle of proponol and it was put there after the deed was done to look like MJ had it every night and was familiar with it. MJ had a lot of things people wanted and even if he is "dead"...there is so much to find out....If he is alive, this "hoax" comes from high places...
wow <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> what if she was right <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
It could be very well be that the FBI is involved. They released documents on Dec. 22, 2009 proving his innocence on the child abuse allegations and the fact they knew someone was trying to kill him.
"In response to Freedom of Information Act requests, the Bureau has released its investigative files on the late entertainer Michael Jackson, who died earlier this year.
The records total 333 pages, divided into seven files. They detail the FBI’s investigation of a man who threatened to kill Jackson, as well as various forms of assistance to California authorities in two cases involving allegations that Jackson had abused children. It should be emphasized that none of these allegations were ever proven in court."
You remember what Kenny O said in the courtroom... tomorrow is the start of the illusion. To me we are part of the ARG but on a larger scale and I believe Michael has implemented all forms of medium to tell his story, including internet, film, television and so on. I think it has been well planned for years. No one has ever thought to combine the two forms of medium at this large of scale and only Michael could have pulled this off. I have said this right from the beginning since about August 2009. This is part illusion/part film/documentary. He is using every form of medium to convey his story in real time and some not in real time.
"An alternate reality game (ARG) is an interactive narrative that uses the real world as a platform, often involving multiple media and game elements, to tell a story that may be affected by participants' ideas or actions."
I believe this is not about a hoax per se, this is about his vision and what he sees for the future. He was always ahead of his time and people's heads (particularly the non-believers) haven't even ventured to think that way. The This is It movie is just a segment of his final "performance". The court hearing is another "segment" and so on....think about it as reading a book.
In the end no matter what, he is clearing his name and trying to make this world a better place.
You remember what Kenny O said in the courtroom... tomorrow is the start of the illusion. To me we are part of the ARG but on a larger scale and I believe Michael has implemented all forms of medium to tell his story, including internet, film, television and so on. I think it has been well planned for years. No one has ever thought to combine the two forms of medium at this large of scale and only Michael could have pulled this off. I have said this right from the beginning since about August 2009. This is part illusion/part film/documentary. He is using every form of medium to convey his story in real time and some not in real time.
"An alternate reality game (ARG) is an interactive narrative that uses the real world as a platform, often involving multiple media and game elements, to tell a story that may be affected by participants' ideas or actions."
I believe this is not about a hoax per se, this is about his vision and what he sees for the future. He was always ahead of his time and people's heads (particularly the non-believers) haven't even ventured to think that way. The This is It movie is just a segment of his final "performance". The court hearing is another "segment" and so on....think about it as reading a book.
In the end no matter what, he is clearing his name and trying to make this world a better place.
Excellent post, Shelby. I remember reading months ago about ARG and it's crossed my mind several times as the one thing that remains a constant possibility. He is using all forms of media in his message and at the same time he is righting some horrible wrongs. Yes, he's always been ahead of his time.
If my memory serves me right, in an ARG not everything is scripted because it starts in one direction but people who aren't aware of the ARG can and will take it in many directions. I'm not sure I've explained that correctly but it reminds me of so many people who may not be aware that they are in an ARG (us, for example) but it's taken on its own life form. That, in my opinion, could be why we get so many conflicting messages. Either way, I'm sure Michael is sitting back laughing - and for that, I'd be happy to humor him.
As Jermaine told Larry King, "yes, I believe he's somewhere" <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Tonight on TV they showed snips of a show coming up about millionares who go into the unfortunate parts of the world and see desperate situations and how people have to live without food, water, without basically anything. These millionares give these people lots and lots of money, and guess what was playing as the theme song? HOLD MY HAND. The emotion I felt was overwhelming. He makes the difference HAPPEN.
I'm blanking...what's ARG??
And it's FANTASTIC that that show is using Michael's song. I seen Ellen Degeneres using Michael's music a lot lately to dance to on her show too!!
I'm blanking...what's ARG??
And it's FANTASTIC that that show is using Michael's song. I seen Ellen Degeneres using Michael's music a lot lately to dance to on her show too!!
Alternatve Reality Game - see the definition in bold in my post above.
This caught my eye months ago when OPUS released its book and you were to get a key code to enter the "reality game". Mine never worked and I believe nothing else became of it. But when I first got the email from OPUS about it, it directed me to this reality game site... and that is what got me thinking.
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I agree with you. I just wish everyone would stop talking about Michael not coming back or when he will come back or that he's really dead. I strongly believe that if you don't have hope any longer than please don't come on and post negative topics. Those of us that are veterans have been to hell and back for almost a year now. We have the faith to know that the truth will be revealed in due time. We don't post negative topics. Sometimes, it's just better not to say anything. I believe Michael is alive and in time the world will know the truth. Keep the Faith!
Hi There, your key phrase, "strongly believe" hits the nail on the head. I feel the question over whether MJ is dead or alive is a mote point! I did some research on Google a long time ago and found out that it is illegal to bury someone in the US without a signed death certificate! So that alone sealed it for me. All the rest, such as no reference to his death in "This Is It" is simply icing on the cake! Faith conquers all!
Stay blessed!
I completely agree!!!! Michael was in trouble, and this hoax wasn't something that was planned over night nor was he an over night sensation. The man was brilliant!!!! He knew the business very well (better than most major stars today), and I do believe that several people wanted to bring him down. His personal chef could've been involved, and drugging him--who knows. Throughout his life, there were very few people that he trusted. You've seen what type of friend Arnie Klein turned out to be. In due time the truth will will prevail but I doubt if he'd ever be safe after exposing such a thing. This thing could be so enormous with millions of dollars involved, I mean we're talking drug trafficking, embezzling, politics, etc. and much bigger than he could handle on his own. If he had to do all of this to be safe--it would be selfish of me to want him back simply for entertainment purposes.
Well said sweet1, I agree with all you have said. We have been here and on MJHD since day 1 and I believe MJ is alive. It's been a rollercoaster ride but i'm glad i've gone through it. It's after opening my eyes to the media and a hell of alot more that's going on in the world.
I believe the truth will come out.
One more thing, I am a half believer, just like most of you.
joseph died
joe not died
fraud, fake?? not at all
the king of pop (jermaine words) is dead
not michael joe jackson
i don´t think will be back as performer but he will let us now... he already did!
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I undertand.
So, you really think that MJ could do it with his Doctor? I mean, Michael was on his place and knew what feels there!
And now imagine that if Michael doesn't come back (it's possible, isn't it?) this man will live all his life as Jackson' murder!
Even if Mj returns you really think that the doctor would agree with the Hoax and voluntarily sacrifice his reputation and go through the court?
I'm difficult to believe in it because we all know Michael as a very kind-hearted man...
And I wanna say a couple of words about His family. We're trying hard to avoid a possibility that all of them are the Media people and can controll their feelings very well or... (I know it's very rude) they showed their real faces...
So, please, argue me out of it, because then I can believe completely and it's everything that I want.
P.S.: sorry for my English
He got so much money after his "death", he can easily bail himself out <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Sorry for bad English
L.O.V.E
- Lesson to media
- Big loans
"Let me bathe in my own time when I come back in. I’m gonna button my shirt or my jacket or whatever it is. I’m gonna look around a little bit, play with them. Snap my fingers maybe, then BAM!"
- Michael Jackson at the very end of "This Is It" film
In that case, maybe he will find a way to confirm to everyone, including non-belivers, he is well and happy, but no more than that.
When I look at the end of the movie "This Is It" (with the music of "Man in the mirror"), it seems to me like a farewell to all and this makes me a little sad.
In the words "... snap my fingers maybe then bam ", I don' t know if "maybe" refers to "bam" or to “snap my fingers” (sorry, maybe it's because I do not know the English language so well).
In any case we'll see and I try to be positive.
Bye
But every time I think "this is it, he must be dead" something inside just doesn't want to believe it, my mind just can not accept it as long as we had NE title 6 months prior to June 25th saying that Michael Jackson will be dead in 6 months, as long as we have the weird O2 press conference, as long as we have Teddy Riley and Akon believing he is alive....... ok maybe the last 2 shouldn't count anyway because they could be motivated by money, even if I think they are rich enough to not do this to Michael for money....
Anyway, we have the strange Dave Dave appearance, we have Michael's own words in TII "it's an adventure, a great adventure, there's nothing to be nervous about" - he speaks like he is in charge of everything, giving the others directions of what is about to be...... having all these, even if often I lose hope, I still can not believe Michael is dead.
wow <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> what if she was right <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
"In response to Freedom of Information Act requests, the Bureau has released its investigative files on the late entertainer Michael Jackson, who died earlier this year.
The records total 333 pages, divided into seven files. They detail the FBI’s investigation of a man who threatened to kill Jackson, as well as various forms of assistance to California authorities in two cases involving allegations that Jackson had abused children. It should be emphasized that none of these allegations were ever proven in court."
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"An alternate reality game (ARG) is an interactive narrative that uses the real world as a platform, often involving multiple media and game elements, to tell a story that may be affected by participants' ideas or actions."
I believe this is not about a hoax per se, this is about his vision and what he sees for the future. He was always ahead of his time and people's heads (particularly the non-believers) haven't even ventured to think that way. The This is It movie is just a segment of his final "performance". The court hearing is another "segment" and so on....think about it as reading a book.
In the end no matter what, he is clearing his name and trying to make this world a better place.
Excellent post, Shelby. I remember reading months ago about ARG and it's crossed my mind several times as the one thing that remains a constant possibility. He is using all forms of media in his message and at the same time he is righting some horrible wrongs. Yes, he's always been ahead of his time.
If my memory serves me right, in an ARG not everything is scripted because it starts in one direction but people who aren't aware of the ARG can and will take it in many directions. I'm not sure I've explained that correctly but it reminds me of so many people who may not be aware that they are in an ARG (us, for example) but it's taken on its own life form. That, in my opinion, could be why we get so many conflicting messages. Either way, I'm sure Michael is sitting back laughing - and for that, I'd be happy to humor him.
As Jermaine told Larry King, "yes, I believe he's somewhere" <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
And it's FANTASTIC that that show is using Michael's song. I seen Ellen Degeneres using Michael's music a lot lately to dance to on her show too!!
Alternatve Reality Game - see the definition in bold in my post above.
This caught my eye months ago when OPUS released its book and you were to get a key code to enter the "reality game". Mine never worked and I believe nothing else became of it. But when I first got the email from OPUS about it, it directed me to this reality game site... and that is what got me thinking.