I AGREE WITH THE REMARK ABOUT THE AMBULANCE PHOTO.........OH PLEASE!!!!DONT EXPECT US TO BELIEVE MICHEAL WAS UNRECOGNISABLE............SO CAN ANYONE SUGGEST HOW ON EARTH YESTERDAYS CIRCUS ADDS UP........FOR THE LIFE OF ME I CANT FIGURE THIS OUT.......DO YOU THINK WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH THE TRIAL GO AHEAD........JUST AS MICHEAL WENT TO TRIAL????.......SO AS TO PROVE THE POINT............THEN........BAM.............XXXXXX.........I AM INTERESTED TO HEAR OTHER IDEAS.......
I wonder if that is why dad wants to go to court over the photo they realise they have made a mistake and as you say anybody knows that Michael how could you not know and in that picture he does not lokk old or asian
I hardly ever post anything anymore but I am a medical transcriptionist and I can assure you the autopsy report listed online is not legally authentic. I have transcribed 1000s of these reports over the last 25 years and fully understand the legalities of these reports and their confidentiality when they are to be used in a criminal trial. The information contained in the autopsy that is posted online goes far beyond what is standard or customary which is unexplainable and only lends itself to more incredibility. There is also the use of three different names included on the autopsy, consults, toxicology and neuropathological testing: Michael Jackson, Michael J. Jackson, Michael Joseph Jackson, all under the same file name and case number. That is not standard and constitutes inconsistencies that point to its invalidity for the entire record. In addition to its inauthenticity the information regarding the neuropathological testing cannot be true as it is stated. The timelines reflected in those sections also grossly contradict the storyline that was reported by the media who said they got their information from the coroner. Autopsy reports are highly confidential documents when the information contained in them is to be used in a criminal trial. That is all I had to say.
i hope this is true, but on another thread someone emailed the coroners office and they confirmed it was a ligit document. i dont know which thread now as so many
From the time I first heard about the "leaked autopsy photos" until reading about the release of the report, I've thought that htis whole thing has just gotten creepily moribd. I mean, come on, you guys. we're sitting around reading reports that shouldn't even be aloud to see the light of day outside of a legal and medical institution.
I don't think this report could be real, especially because I would think it would be part of the documents used in the trial. Although, if the person is selected to be on the jury, they would not be allowed to expose themselves to any media outlet.
Now I'm curious, though, someone remarked that this was a hoax but not by michael, what did you mean?
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I loved Michael, but I think its time to face it... He is gone.
The DL is a formallity, they knew who Michael Jackson was, who wouldn't.
He didn't need DNA, His family was all there and id'ed him as well.... I would love to find a big hole in this autopsey report, but there isn't one.
yes, there is: i believe that it reads 'normal' next to 'scalp' on the external examination report. and there should have been mentioned that he had a large burn scar on his scalp, or not? to my knowledge, scars stay with you for life, even when treated. and he had transplants on his scalp to cover the burnt parts, so there should have been visible scars somewhere on the scalp. you cannot get rid of one scar and not create another one. at least i wouldn't think so.
MIchael has discoid lupus not systemic lupus. U can die from systemic lupus, u can't live more than 10 or 15 years maximum. IF he had this type of lupus he will be gone since a long time ago. U can't die from discoid lupus. It's mostly a skin condition.
Hopefully he wasn't actually terminally ill like reports have said & didn't actually only have 6 months to live. This autopsy report makes it seem like he was & if it was possible he smoked marijuana hopefully it wasn't for medical use. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
I found this on page 14 of the report:
"There is a dark skin discoloration resembling a tattoo on the anterior half of the scalp."
It's in the section about scars/tattoos, and I think those of you who didn't find this were looking at a different section, which talked about abnormalities (which probably means something else).
Maybe this is the scar left from the 1984 Pepsi burning incident?
I've just posted this on another topic about the autopsy report, so thought I would post here too incase it's any help...
I've just spent the past hour and a bit reading through the autopsy report, with a medical professional relative. They agreed that some points seemed to contradict each other, but noted a few things which particularly stood out to them...
1. The autopsy mentions a 1.5cm globulated mass located in the left adrenal gland and also a 0.2cm mass in the right kidney (neither of which should be there). She pointed out that if these masses were malignent, it is possible that they had spread from one to the other (meaning the person who was autopsied had a form of cancer which had started to spread. However, she did say that there is just as much chance these masses could have been benign (not cancerous). But the point she was making was, it was extremely strange that these masses/tumours were not investigated/discussed further, when the rest of the autopsy went into so much detail.
2. Also, she found it odd that with so much detail was given on the poor condition of the lungs, them being inflamed etc. Although it states this wasn't severe enough to be the cause of death, she pointed out that someone who suffered it to that extent, would show obvious effects of it in day to day life. i.e. would not be able to sing and dance, like MJ did on the This Is It DVD.
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The autopsy report is real, Michael has gone forever.
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I loved Michael, but I think its time to face it... He is gone.
The DL is a formallity, they knew who Michael Jackson was, who wouldn't.
He didn't need DNA, His family was all there and id'ed him as well.... I would love to find a big hole in this autopsey report, but there isn't one.
Where do you know from, that the family identified him?
And there a lot of little holes in it....
Do you lose hope just because this report came out?
I do not even think that this report is real. TMZ is a tabloid and I don't think that they would get a real coroner report for the public... Remember TMZ are the only who got this "Report"
LaToya identified him at the hospital. Aside from her and Jermaine and the kids no other family member ever saw Michael "dead". Not even his parents.
In the report the detective who was at the hospital describes all the medical equipment that was attached to the body. LaToya and the kids went in to say good-bye before that, and she described him as looking like he was sleeping. I don't know about you, but I don't think I would want the kids to their dad with tubes and stuff attached to him. And then have Paris try to get a heart necklace around his neck? I just can't see that.
ok guys,
So the report mentions a scar in the lower right quadrent, which usually indicates an appendectomy.
I've googled and can't find if MJ had his appendix removed? Does anyone else know?
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I noticed that too...I don't know the answer to whether he had his removed, but I also noticed that later on in the report it mentions that the appendix is present?
Please, STOP saying that report is fake and that you 100% sure that MJ is alive, if you don't have any proof to support that. You are hurting me and other people with this rollercoaster. I want to move on and see CM going to jail, but its so diificult to focus in healing and waiting for justice when so many people are giving most likely FALSE hope about Michael being alive...it hurts so much...
Venus7, I understand how hard all of this is for you. I too go between loosing hope and hoping he's alive. If you truly want to move on, then maybe this hoax site isn't for you. The only way I could really let go would be to just leave this site and do just that...move on.
I wish you peace and L.O.V.E.
Yes, nobody is forcing you to read these posts. If you truly believe MJ to be dead, then leave the site and calm your mind.
why is there a place to talk about THE MURDER THEORY if your not allowed to talk about the murder theory ? At least without someone dogging you about not thinking or perceiving things the same way you do? Let me tell you & maybe its the age difference ,I'm 48 ,but my perception of things going on with Mj is vastly different than most . I look at some of these hoax video's ,and some of them are just absolute nonsense .And then I see other people commenting "Oh you are a genius " on the same video that I thought was nonsense . And I watched them all . Probably multiple times . I am on several other Sites some hoax sites some not . I looked at the NWO & illuminati stuff {long before MJ Died } The MK ultra stuff {before I ever saw this site } I been studying since he died and was a fan my whole life since like age 7 . And I just don't understand how some people perceptions are so different . Some are more gullible than others .I am definitly not gullible at my age .I'm no genius , but I am not a fool either .There is a hoax ,but it wasn't Michael that pulled it ,in my opinion .
I don't think people are gullible if they favor him being alive. If you believe that theory about murder that's your business but your opinion is no better than anyone else theories on here. Just because your almost 50 don't make you wiser than someone who is younger. Seem like you're trying to insult people's intelligence on here. You can express yourself without being disrespectful to others opinions. That's called being mature. Once again this is a death hoax web site so most opinions will favor him being alive. Not trying to beef with you but please be respectful with your comments. Especially since your older be an example.
why is there a place to talk about THE MURDER THEORY if your not allowed to talk about the murder theory ? At least without someone dogging you about not thinking or perceiving things the same way you do? Let me tell you & maybe its the age difference ,I'm 48 ,but my perception of things going on with Mj is vastly different than most . I look at some of these hoax video's ,and some of them are just absolute nonsense .And then I see other people commenting "Oh you are a genius " on the same video that I thought was nonsense . And I watched them all . Probably multiple times . I am on several other Sites some hoax sites some not . I looked at the NWO & illuminati stuff {long before MJ Died } The MK ultra stuff {before I ever saw this site } I been studying since he died and was a fan my whole life since like age 7 . And I just don't understand how some people perceptions are so different . Some are more gullible than others .I am definitly not gullible at my age .I'm no genius , but I am not a fool either .There is a hoax ,but it wasn't Michael that pulled it ,in my opinion .
I don't think people are gullible if they favor him being alive. If you believe that theory about murder that's your business but your opinion is no better than anyone else theories on here. Just because your almost 50 don't make you wiser than someone who is younger. Seem like you're trying to insult people's intelligence on here. You can express yourself without being disrespectful to others opinions. That's called being mature. Once again this is a death hoax web site so most opinions will favor him being alive. Not trying to beef with you but please be respectful with your comments. Especially since your older be an example.
Well said - I'm 56 btw. By the same token, you could be referred to as gullible if you believe the murder theory. We are all here to find the truth, whatever it may be.
I loved Michael, but I think its time to face it... He is gone.
The DL is a formallity, they knew who Michael Jackson was, who wouldn't.
He didn't need DNA, His family was all there and id'ed him as well.... I would love to find a big hole in this autopsey report, but there isn't one.
Where do you know from, that the family identified him?
And there a lot of little holes in it....
Do you lose hope just because this report came out?
I do not even think that this report is real. TMZ is a tabloid and I don't think that they would get a real coroner report for the public... Remember TMZ are the only who got this "Report"
LaToya identified him at the hospital. Aside from her and Jermaine and the kids no other family member ever saw Michael "dead". Not even his parents.
In the report the detective who was at the hospital describes all the medical equipment that was attached to the body. LaToya and the kids went in to say good-bye before that, and she described him as looking like he was sleeping. I don't know about you, but I don't think I would want the kids to their dad with tubes and stuff attached to him. And then have Paris try to get a heart necklace around his neck? I just can't see that.
Cause he's most likely alive and kicking! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
The autopsy report is real, Michael has gone forever.
If this is what you think, then seriously, gtfo. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
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I explained my point afterwards at another comment. Respect, please.
If I am still here it is because I want to believe, but every day it is being a harder job.
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1. The autopsy mentions a 1.5cm globulated mass located in the left adrenal gland and also a 0.2cm mass in the right kidney (neither of which should be there). She pointed out that if these masses were malignent, it is possible that they had spread from one to the other (meaning the person who was autopsied had a form of cancer which had started to spread. However, she did say that there is just as much chance these masses could have been benign (not cancerous). But the point she was making was, it was extremely strange that these masses/tumours were not investigated/discussed further, when the rest of the autopsy went into so much detail.
LaToya identified him at the hospital. Aside from her and Jermaine and the kids no other family member ever saw Michael "dead". Not even his parents.
In the report the detective who was at the hospital describes all the medical equipment that was attached to the body. LaToya and the kids went in to say good-bye before that, and she described him as looking like he was sleeping. I don't know about you, but I don't think I would want the kids to their dad with tubes and stuff attached to him. And then have Paris try to get a heart necklace around his neck? I just can't see that.
The heart pendant story is a little uncredible. LaToya mentions they tried to put it on his neck but that was not possible so it was wrapped around his wrist. According to LaToya, Paris wanted to keep wearing her half always, however I never saw it. She did wear some silver/blue-ish pendant at the memorial, but at later pictures there was no trace of a pendant around her neck, at least not the one of the memorial.
LaYoya's story about the necklace is totally false,i mean when she said that Paris bought the necklace after Michael's "passing", then put one part of it in Mike's casket and the other part kept to herself,it's obvious that LaToya made it up,cause Paris was spotted with the same neckalece(with only one part of it)with Mike and Prince some days before Michael's "passing", u can clearly see the necklace,here is the hoax video of it if u havent seen it yet. Michael Jackson- -Michael Jackson -The Ultimate Hoax-Episode15
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I don't think this report could be real, especially because I would think it would be part of the documents used in the trial. Although, if the person is selected to be on the jury, they would not be allowed to expose themselves to any media outlet.
Now I'm curious, though, someone remarked that this was a hoax but not by michael, what did you mean?
yes, there is: i believe that it reads 'normal' next to 'scalp' on the external examination report. and there should have been mentioned that he had a large burn scar on his scalp, or not? to my knowledge, scars stay with you for life, even when treated. and he had transplants on his scalp to cover the burnt parts, so there should have been visible scars somewhere on the scalp. you cannot get rid of one scar and not create another one. at least i wouldn't think so.
"There is a dark skin discoloration resembling a tattoo on the anterior half of the scalp."
It's in the section about scars/tattoos, and I think those of you who didn't find this were looking at a different section, which talked about abnormalities (which probably means something else).
Maybe this is the scar left from the 1984 Pepsi burning incident?
Don't worry I've never loss hope <!-- s
I've just spent the past hour and a bit reading through the autopsy report, with a medical professional relative. They agreed that some points seemed to contradict each other, but noted a few things which particularly stood out to them...
1. The autopsy mentions a 1.5cm globulated mass located in the left adrenal gland and also a 0.2cm mass in the right kidney (neither of which should be there). She pointed out that if these masses were malignent, it is possible that they had spread from one to the other (meaning the person who was autopsied had a form of cancer which had started to spread. However, she did say that there is just as much chance these masses could have been benign (not cancerous). But the point she was making was, it was extremely strange that these masses/tumours were not investigated/discussed further, when the rest of the autopsy went into so much detail.
2. Also, she found it odd that with so much detail was given on the poor condition of the lungs, them being inflamed etc. Although it states this wasn't severe enough to be the cause of death, she pointed out that someone who suffered it to that extent, would show obvious effects of it in day to day life. i.e. would not be able to sing and dance, like MJ did on the This Is It DVD.
So it is not just novices, that are noticing strange things in the report. <!-- s
If this is what you think, then seriously, gtfo. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
LaToya identified him at the hospital. Aside from her and Jermaine and the kids no other family member ever saw Michael "dead". Not even his parents.
In the report the detective who was at the hospital describes all the medical equipment that was attached to the body. LaToya and the kids went in to say good-bye before that, and she described him as looking like he was sleeping. I don't know about you, but I don't think I would want the kids to their dad with tubes and stuff attached to him. And then have Paris try to get a heart necklace around his neck? I just can't see that.
I noticed that too...I don't know the answer to whether he had his removed, but I also noticed that later on in the report it mentions that the appendix is present?
+1 GOOD LUCK! L.O.V.E.
I don't think people are gullible if they favor him being alive. If you believe that theory about murder that's your business but your opinion is no better than anyone else theories on here. Just because your almost 50 don't make you wiser than someone who is younger. Seem like you're trying to insult people's intelligence on here. You can express yourself without being disrespectful to others opinions. That's called being mature. Once again this is a death hoax web site so most opinions will favor him being alive. Not trying to beef with you but please be respectful with your comments. Especially since your older be an example.
Well said - I'm 56 btw. By the same token, you could be referred to as gullible if you believe the murder theory. We are all here to find the truth, whatever it may be.
Cause he's most likely alive and kicking! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
<!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> that is very good education, Michael would like you very much........
I explained my point afterwards at another comment. Respect, please.
If I am still here it is because I want to believe, but every day it is being a harder job.
Sorry very much for my bad english, it costs to me a lot of effort to explain my feelings in english, thats why my messages seem a telegram <!-- s
I think it was after autopsy, at memorial, at least this is what I have read.