Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
Chamone
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After participating in this topic; <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6415<!-- l --> I decided to focus at the cleft after a tip *Mo* gave me.
First thing I did was look for close ups of the cleft from events where we know the REAL MJ was present.
These two are taken at April 1, 2004 at the Ethiopian Embassy in Washington, DC. He was given an award for his humanitarion work. I highly doubt he would send one of his imposters there, so we can say this is MJ. Focus on the cleft;
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The cleft is quite clear.
A year later in Dubai, the cleft is the same. (And I just love how you can see that he had problems shaving that morning! <!-- s --><!-- s --> ) November 14, 2005, The Dubai Desert Rally racing tournament.
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So, now we all now what the cleft from 2004-2005 real MJ looked like, right? Big leap forwards to 2009. Yup. O2 guy.
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Hm. I must say, the cleft did change in a couple of years time. So we go back in time. May 23, 2008 to be exact.
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(Original picture)
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So the cleft in 2004, 2005 and 2008 looks exactly the same. Perhaps he had it altered before the O2 appearance, it could be a possibility. This is MJ with his kids on june 3, 2009 in LA.
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(Original pic)
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(Original pic)
Now, let's look at the pics from the topic which started this cleftwatch;
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Now. Draw your own conclusions, I am still processing all this.
First thing I did was look for close ups of the cleft from events where we know the REAL MJ was present.
These two are taken at April 1, 2004 at the Ethiopian Embassy in Washington, DC. He was given an award for his humanitarion work. I highly doubt he would send one of his imposters there, so we can say this is MJ. Focus on the cleft;
#1
(Original picture *click*)
#2
(Original picture *click*)
#3
(Original picture *click*)
The cleft is quite clear.
A year later in Dubai, the cleft is the same. (And I just love how you can see that he had problems shaving that morning! <!-- s --><!-- s --> ) November 14, 2005, The Dubai Desert Rally racing tournament.
#4
(Original pic)
#5
(Original pic)
So, now we all now what the cleft from 2004-2005 real MJ looked like, right? Big leap forwards to 2009. Yup. O2 guy.
#6
#7
Hm. I must say, the cleft did change in a couple of years time. So we go back in time. May 23, 2008 to be exact.
#8
(Original picture)
#9
(Original picture)
So the cleft in 2004, 2005 and 2008 looks exactly the same. Perhaps he had it altered before the O2 appearance, it could be a possibility. This is MJ with his kids on june 3, 2009 in LA.
#10
(Original pic)
#11
(Original pic)
Now, let's look at the pics from the topic which started this cleftwatch;
#12
#13
#14
#15
Now. Draw your own conclusions, I am still processing all this.
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Comments
@O2 his face was better groomed and some foundation applied on his skin, you can see it in big sized pics.
And BTW the truth is not in cleft, I would say is in his nose cavities that right and left look different and unique shape after bad surgeries, and you can see by this is all MJ
The same thing I would say about his teeth, they are also recognizable
I can't believe why you are in denial about this.... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Seriously, I can't believe some people even THINK that O2 dude is Mike. That guy looks NOTHING like Mike at all. Besides the cleft there are also so many other facial differences...
I can't believe you're in denial of not thinking it's MJ. People are comparing pictures 5+ years apart, pictures that are photoshopped, pictures of him with facial hair and without and pictures of him with and without dark make-up accenting it. Not to mention Kleine was injecting different parts of his face with fillers and it wasn't a secret.
The chin is different on the O2 guy for sure. It's not an angle or a shadow. Very interesting
Reason I say this is because I myself have photos of friends, family, even myself, taken at different times of the year, and if I were to pin point every little difference that I see in the photos, and use them to debate that not all the photos were of the original person, then it would be endless. My face has taken on seemingly different measures in different areas, depending on the angle in which I was posing, or the angle at which the camera was at when taking the photo - if I retained more water/fluid in my system at that time or if I had lost a few pounds at that time - it all makes a difference sometimes in the way you get 'caught' by film/camera/lighting. I did look at MJ's teeth carefully in the pics. The teeth are all the same in size, shape, distance, angle, coloration, tone/density etc..
One thing that does phase me is the width of his jawline. In the O2 pics, his jawline is sharper and narrower than the other pics. The other pics, it is wider, more masculine in a sort.