Not quite sure I understand this one. I am not debunking you, can you break it down for me so much info and slipups from the family hard to keep up!!! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Thanks
Not quite sure I understand this one. I am not debunking you, can you break it down for me so much info and slipups from the family hard to keep up!!! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Thanks
Had we heard the below version before?
"I talked to him the first time and he was at the house and my mom was in the background crying, and she was just upset."
Which house was good 'ole Frank at? At one time, we heard he was at MJ's house. So if he was at MJ's house when Marlon talked to him the first time, how could he hear his Mom crying in the backgroud?" We've never heard that Mom was at MJ's house.
Now if he was at the Encino home, what time did he get there? We all saw video of Mom arriving alone at the hospital, and we heard stories that Frank was already there when she arrived. If he was at the Encino home and Marlon heard his Mom in the background, why didn't both he and Mom drive together to the hospital?
Frank says he was told by the nurse that it didn't look good for MJ and that they were waiting for his mother to arrive.
I think it was all planned and rehearsed. Of course, the best plans can be waylaid if not all parties remember every little detail of their respective parts. And a lot of this had to happen fast. All of the cast members can't be expected to get all of their facts straight, and as this website proves, they didn't.
Not quite sure I understand this one. I am not debunking you, can you break it down for me so much info and slipups from the family hard to keep up!!! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Thanks
Had we heard the below version before?
"I talked to him the first time and he was at the house and my mom was in the background crying, and she was just upset."
Which house was good 'ole Frank at? At one time, we heard he was at MJ's house. So if he was at MJ's house when Marlon talked to him the first time, how could he hear his Mom crying in the backgroud?" We've never heard that Mom was at MJ's house.
Now if he was at the Encino home, what time did he get there? We all saw video of Mom arriving alone at the hospital, and we heard stories that Frank was already there when she arrived. If he was at the Encino home and Marlon heard his Mom in the background, why didn't both he and Mom drive together to the hospital?
Frank says he was told by the nurse that it didn't look good for MJ and that they were waiting for his mother to arrive.
I think it was all planned and rehearsed. Of course, the best plans can be waylaid if not all parties remember every little detail of their respective parts. And a lot of this had to happen fast. All of the cast members can't be expected to get all of their facts straight, and as this website proves, they didn't.
Just wanted to add to the Dileo comments. When he did a video interview a few months ago with another website this is the timeline he gave..note the times closely. He said he was at lunch with a friend and got the phone call about MJ being taken to the hospital at **1130 am**. He left the lunch table (he was at a hotel restaurant), went to his room to change clothes, had to wait on his car to be brought to him, got lost for a few minutes on the way to MJ's house, and got there "AFTER the ambulance left" so he went to the hospital.
Ok...the 911 call didn't take place til around 12:21 or so..why did he get a phone call at 1130??? He said that he got there AFTER the ambulance left. Which we know was about 1:15. TWO hours to get from the hotel to MJ's house that is reportedly only a handful of miles away from where he was eating? 2 hours? I guess one could say "he meant to say" 1230 pm but he was pretty clear with the 1130 am call, and with all the other inconsistancies that went on, who knows. If it was not an actual video interview there would leave room for misquote, etc.. But that's not the case. It came straight from him.
If I remember correctly, did he not also say that the phone call came from "a fan"?? Must be a psychic fan to know the info an hour before it all started to happen with the 911 call.
BTW, this was the same interview that he dodged questions about Tohme Tohme, despite the interviewer asking him about TT, Dileo starting to talk about MURRAY, the interviewer AGAIN saying "no, I said Dr Tohme", Dileo still went onto ramble about Murray. He wasn't gonna touch Tohme's name with a ten foot pole.
DO YOU KNOW WICH HOTEL WAS? BECAUSE SOMEONE POST A TOPIC ABOUT THE CALL DOR THE AMBULANCE MAKE IT FROM HOTEL... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> I KNOW THAT THIS COULD BE FOR THE CEL OF THE BODYGUARD REGISTER..... BUT WHO KNOWS?!
According to the transcript of his interview below, it was the Beverly Hilton. He left out the time of the initial phone call in the LKL interview but he was specific about it in the website video interview. He did say "a fan" called him and asked if he knew that an ambulance was in front of MJ's house but he left out the time of "1130" phone call. In this interview he left out the part about going to change clothes and "getting lost" on the way to the house..he said both of those in the website's interview (in addition to getting the ticket for retrieving his car, waiting on the car)
DILEO: I was having lunch at the Beverly Hilton. And I got a phone call from a fan who was...
KING: A fan?
DILEO: A fan who said, Frank, do you know there's an ambulance in front of Michael's house?
And I said, no, I don't, but I'm going to look right into it. And I
hung up. I called Michael's assistant. And I said -- his name is
Michael, also.
I said Michael, is there an ambulance at the house?
He said, that's what I heard. He said, I'm on my way. And I said, well,
I'll be there in one second. I went in to get my ticket for the car.
And I called Randi Phillips and said look, you're closer...
Janet’s interview on ABC she mentioned that she was in NEW YORK when she heard the news, but in her Bazaar-interview she said that she was on the set of her movie in Atlanta. Her director Tyler Perry also confirmed it in an interview but I thought she was in London when she heard the news? Slipup anyways.
I guess the saying ''I remember the day like it happened yesterday'' does not imply for the Jackson family, odd.. Since I remember June 25th crystal clear like it happened yesterday, where I was, what I was doing the moment I found out he died. But the Jacksons seem to have been in more places than one. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Janet’s interview on ABC she mentioned that she was in NEW YORK when she heard the news, but in her Bazaar-interview she said that she was on the set of her movie in Atlanta. Her director Tyler Perry also confirmed it in an interview but I thought she was in London when she heard the news? Slipup anyways.
I guess the saying ''I remember the day like it happened yesterday'' does not imply for the Jackson family, odd.. Since I remember June 25th crystal clear like it happened yesterday, where I was, what I was doing the moment I found out he died. But the Jacksons seem to have been in more places than one. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Me too. I remember that morning really well!. I am surprised that a family member would give 3 different versions of the location i one event as such, the death of your brother.
Some of my family members who died over 8 years ago I also remember like if were yesterday, even the clothes I was wearing!
So Janet told Tyler she was in London? OMG! SO far we have London, Atlanta, and New York! WTF! And if Tyler did state this in a interview we know she told him that! So she was not filming with him! This just gets crazier and crazier doesn't it? I want to know the truth, because out of all the family member slipups this one is a BIG one! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> Surley Janet remembers where she was. I was on my way home from work when I heard it on my local radio station ..... and the first thing I did (instead of turning on the news on T.V>) I broke out with my laptop and typed in Michael Jackson Death Hoax <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Infinitylady wrote: One of Janet's slip up to me was when she said everyone needs a safehaven.
She didn't need one. So, the only one I could think of was that she was talking about her brother MJ.
She said that in her latest interview with Robin? This reminds me of what Jermaine said: ''he is in safekeepings now''. Safehaven and safekeepings. Hmmm.
I was trying to find the post where they talked abou the safekeepings and what it meant in regards to bereavement,funeral, yada, yada!!
I was at home yesterday and decided to look in my dictionary. It's interesting although someone on the post mentioned what safekeepings meant in regards to God and someone passing on. Here is another meaning:
Safekeeping: 1.) the act of keeping in safety.; 2.) protection or custody.
haven: 1.) a place of shelter & safety. 2.) Literary: a harbor or port.
Jermaine on the Family Dynasty show on A&E, He said: "I have never been to the O2 arena and I am excited to see it because this is where Michael is doing his shows''.
Speaks of Michael in present tense AGAIN!!!
Im sorry but 6 months after his death, I think they would come to terms with not using present tense in these sentences. My cousin who passed away last year was a singer and proffecional performer too.. If I were to visit one of the stages she used to sing at I would never accidently say ''where she is doing her shows''.
Jermaine on the Family Dynasty show on A&E, He said: "I have never been to the O2 arena and I am excited to see it because this is where Michael is doing his shows''.
Speaks of Michael in present tense AGAIN!!!
Im sorry but 6 months after his death, I think they would come to terms with not using present tense in these sentences. My cousin who passed away last year was a singer and proffecional performer too.. If I were to visit one of the stages she used to sing at I would never accidently say ''where she is doing her shows''.
I understand when you have a relative that has passed away and you talk reffering to him like if he was alive.. talk in present tense.. But this little girl? I'm sorry if you have already talked about this video, but I just found it and.. I just can't believe that if he is in fact death, some ppl that weren't to close to him, keep saying things as "he is.." even when the reporter ask you "how WAS he?".
lot of L.O.V.E!
EDIT: <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> I posted before to see the end of the video.. at the end the reporter ask if she wants to talk about anything else, and she says "yes, about how great michael was" or something like that.. in the last 1 minute of the interview... maybe i'm crazy, but i wont buy this interview as so many others.
I understand when you have a relative that has passed away and you talk reffering to him like if he was alive.. talk in present tense.. But this little girl? I'm sorry if you have already talked about this video, but I just found it and.. I just can't believe that if he is in fact death, some ppl that weren't to close to him, keep saying things as "he is.." even when the reporter ask you "how WAS he?".
lot of L.O.V.E!
EDIT: <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> I posted before to see the end of the video.. at the end the reporter ask if she wants to talk about anything else, and she says "yes, about how great michael was" or something like that.. in the last 1 minute of the interview... maybe i'm crazy, but i wont buy this interview as so many others.
Can you please post the video here, I dont know which video you are talking about and I want to see it.
ahaha I'm so silly, sorry, I thought I linked it.
<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Bx6GjwuI<!-- m -->
or search Michael Jackson's "this is it" earth girl
I'm just overacting <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> I know she is not in the hoax, but i don't get all these mistakes with the verbs.
i am going to play the bad guy just for one sec...ok imagine if you were a celebrity and you were bouncing from state to state or country wherever all within a few days...hell i would get confused as to where the heck i was to!! thats in regards to all of janets slip ups
but i still think MJ is alive
i am going to play the bad guy just for one sec...ok imagine if you were a celebrity and you were bouncing from state to state or country wherever all within a few days...hell i would get confused as to where the heck i was to!! thats in regards to all of janets slip ups
but i still think MJ is alive
True, but I'd know EXACTLY where I was when I heard my brother had died.
THAT is big news, and it's not something you'd wonder, "Where was I?" about.
Agreed.. any big news you are bound to remember where you was. I was 14 years old when the planes hit the Twin Towers, I still remember where I was and what my first words were when I saw it on TV. She should remember too, if she was so shocked about his news.
i´m 33 years old right now. the father of my best friend died when we have 6 years old and today i remember that my friend and i were at the pool playing and was january 6... if my brother died i would remember exactly were i was, time and what i was doing... is imposible that she make only a mistake... IMPOSIBLE!!!
Agreed.. any big news you are bound to remember where you was. I was 14 years old when the planes hit the Twin Towers, I still remember where I was and what my first words were when I saw it on TV. She should remember too, if she was so shocked about his news.
Exactly. I was in class at university when I heard about 9/11.
I even remember being stung by a bee that day.
And she can't remember where she was when her brother died? Please.
Comments
Had we heard the below version before?
"I talked to him the first time and he was at the house and my mom was in the background crying, and she was just upset."
Which house was good 'ole Frank at? At one time, we heard he was at MJ's house. So if he was at MJ's house when Marlon talked to him the first time, how could he hear his Mom crying in the backgroud?" We've never heard that Mom was at MJ's house.
Now if he was at the Encino home, what time did he get there? We all saw video of Mom arriving alone at the hospital, and we heard stories that Frank was already there when she arrived. If he was at the Encino home and Marlon heard his Mom in the background, why didn't both he and Mom drive together to the hospital?
Frank says he was told by the nurse that it didn't look good for MJ and that they were waiting for his mother to arrive.
I think it was all planned and rehearsed. Of course, the best plans can be waylaid if not all parties remember every little detail of their respective parts. And a lot of this had to happen fast. All of the cast members can't be expected to get all of their facts straight, and as this website proves, they didn't.
<!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> WOW! YOU ARE RIGHT! THIS IS ... IT!
H.O.A.X.
<!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpfXYV8G3q0<!-- m -->
EXCELLENT!!!!!!
Ok...the 911 call didn't take place til around 12:21 or so..why did he get a phone call at 1130??? He said that he got there AFTER the ambulance left. Which we know was about 1:15. TWO hours to get from the hotel to MJ's house that is reportedly only a handful of miles away from where he was eating? 2 hours? I guess one could say "he meant to say" 1230 pm but he was pretty clear with the 1130 am call, and with all the other inconsistancies that went on, who knows. If it was not an actual video interview there would leave room for misquote, etc.. But that's not the case. It came straight from him.
If I remember correctly, did he not also say that the phone call came from "a fan"?? Must be a psychic fan to know the info an hour before it all started to happen with the 911 call.
BTW, this was the same interview that he dodged questions about Tohme Tohme, despite the interviewer asking him about TT, Dileo starting to talk about MURRAY, the interviewer AGAIN saying "no, I said Dr Tohme", Dileo still went onto ramble about Murray. He wasn't gonna touch Tohme's name with a ten foot pole.
<!-- m -->http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-thi ... rank+dileo<!-- m -->
DILEO: I was having lunch at the Beverly Hilton. And I got a phone call from a fan who was...
KING: A fan?
DILEO: A fan who said, Frank, do you know there's an ambulance in front of Michael's house?
And I said, no, I don't, but I'm going to look right into it. And I
hung up. I called Michael's assistant. And I said -- his name is
Michael, also.
I said Michael, is there an ambulance at the house?
He said, that's what I heard. He said, I'm on my way. And I said, well,
I'll be there in one second. I went in to get my ticket for the car.
And I called Randi Phillips and said look, you're closer...
I guess the saying ''I remember the day like it happened yesterday'' does not imply for the Jackson family, odd.. Since I remember June 25th crystal clear like it happened yesterday, where I was, what I was doing the moment I found out he died. But the Jacksons seem to have been in more places than one. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Me too. I remember that morning really well!. I am surprised that a family member would give 3 different versions of the location i one event as such, the death of your brother.
Some of my family members who died over 8 years ago I also remember like if were yesterday, even the clothes I was wearing!
I was trying to find the post where they talked abou the safekeepings and what it meant in regards to bereavement,funeral, yada, yada!!
I was at home yesterday and decided to look in my dictionary. It's interesting although someone on the post mentioned what safekeepings meant in regards to God and someone passing on. Here is another meaning:
Safekeeping: 1.) the act of keeping in safety.; 2.) protection or custody.
haven: 1.) a place of shelter & safety. 2.) Literary: a harbor or port.
Speaks of Michael in present tense AGAIN!!!
Im sorry but 6 months after his death, I think they would come to terms with not using present tense in these sentences. My cousin who passed away last year was a singer and proffecional performer too.. If I were to visit one of the stages she used to sing at I would never accidently say ''where she is doing her shows''.
But I think this was filmed before Michaels Death
Oh bummer.. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
Sorry <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
But they filmed a lot of material before Michaels "Death" they started at the beginnin of june I think.
lot of L.O.V.E!
EDIT: <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> I posted before to see the end of the video.. at the end the reporter ask if she wants to talk about anything else, and she says "yes, about how great michael was" or something like that.. in the last 1 minute of the interview... maybe i'm crazy, but i wont buy this interview as so many others.
Can you please post the video here, I dont know which video you are talking about and I want to see it.
<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Bx6GjwuI<!-- m -->
or search Michael Jackson's "this is it" earth girl
I'm just overacting <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> I know she is not in the hoax, but i don't get all these mistakes with the verbs.
kisses! I hope you like it, she is so cute!
but i still think MJ is alive
True, but I'd know EXACTLY where I was when I heard my brother had died.
THAT is big news, and it's not something you'd wonder, "Where was I?" about.
Exactly. I was in class at university when I heard about 9/11.
I even remember being stung by a bee that day.
And she can't remember where she was when her brother died? Please.