Joe Jackson: 'Michael Was Resuscitated After Cardiac Arrest'

ladylee1979ladylee1979 Posts: 257
edited January 1970 in News
MICHAEL JACKSON was resuscitated by doctors an hour after he suffered the cardiac arrest which led to his death, according to the King of Pop's father JOE JACKSON.

The Thriller superstar's heart stopped after he was allegedly given a dose of powerful anaesthetic Propofol by his personal physician Dr. Conrad Murray last June (09).

The medic has pleaded not guilty to one count of involuntary manslaughter after Los Angeles prosecutors charged him with administering the drug to the singer.

Joe Jackson wants Murray held to account for medical malpractice and his lawyer Brian Oxman revealed last week (begs22Mar10) that he was preparing to file a wrongful death lawsuit against the doctor on behalf of the family patriarch.

In the legal documents, filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court and obtained by Britain's News of the World tabloid, it is alleged that Jackson was revived for 10 minutes after being admitted to the UCLA hospital on 25 June (09).

The papers state, "At 13:21 hours or 1:21pm, the nurses and physicians at UCLA detected a weak femoral pulse and cardiac activity for Michael Jackson. At 13:22 hours he showed cardiac activity. At 13.33 he showed a weak ventricular rhythm (contracting of the lower heart chambers).

"Dr. Richelle Cooper (head of the UCLA Medical Center Emergency Department) reported that when Michael Jackson was intubated with an endotrachial tube he had good breath sounds and, 'The initial cardiac rhythm appeared to be wide and slow in the 40s.' At 13.52 or 1.52pm he had a pulse of 53 beats per minute...

"Despite these efforts, Michael Jackson did not regain a spontaneous pulse or heartbeat. Michael was pronounced dead at 2:26 pm."

In the suit, Oxman alleges Murray lied to the doctors treating Jackson about the drugs the singer had been taking, and failed to mention the use of Propofol, a claim backed up by Cooper's report of the hospitalisation.

Her account states: "By report of Dr. Murray the patient had been working long hours but had not been ill. The only medications reported were Valium and Flomax. There is no history of drug use by the patient as reported by Dr. Murray."

Joe Jackson is convinced the medical timeline leading up to his son's death is enough to prove Murray was responsible for the superstar's passing.

He says, "This evidence is damning. They should lock him up and throw away the key. It's disgusting what happened here."

Jackson Sr. is seeking an unspecified amount of punitive damages, economic support, loss of companionship and loss of consortium.

Murray has 90 days to respond to the lawsuit
sorry if this has already been posted couldnt see it.
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  • CameronCameron Posts: 956
    Oh... Poor Michael ! He wanted to live ! It's very sad. And it's not good for hoax theory...
  • This is getting so destorted. This makes me believe he is dead.. But you read and hear jermaine will the slip ups, and you feel he is alive. This is hard on all of us believers, I guess we shouldn't lose faith.
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    I don't see anything wrong.. they saying he was Resuscitated After Cardiac Arrest.. ^.^
    I can think only about ... "piece by piece by piece..." <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    and Joe saying this NOW. a few days before Easter.. <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> after all those months... <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
  • vilte90vilte90 Posts: 148

    The papers state, "At 13:21 hours or 1:21pm, the nurses and physicians at UCLA detected a weak femoral pulse and cardiac activity for Michael Jackson. At 13:22 hours he showed cardiac activity. At 13.33 he showed a weak ventricular rhythm (contracting of the lower heart chambers).

    "Dr. Richelle Cooper (head of the UCLA Medical Center Emergency Department) reported that when Michael Jackson was intubated with an endotrachial tube he had good breath sounds and, 'The initial cardiac rhythm appeared to be wide and slow in the 40s.' At 13.52 or 1.52pm he had a pulse of 53 beats per minute...

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    All those numbers.. Almost everyone can be assembled into 3 or 7 <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • Yeahhhh ok I just don't understand why on earth this information would be surfacing NOW.....UNLESS this is a hoax. If these things were really true, it makes no sense for it to just come out not. It just doesn't. Why has UCLA been so quiet up until now? Do we even know if the people making these statements are real people?
  • Guys,


    PLEASE, Im begging you........PLEASE...I have done this and I advise you to do the same.

    Prepare yourself for the very real fact that MJ may have actually died. I personally know he is alive,,,,Ive had doubts yes, but whenver news of this nature comes out, alot of you lose hope and say you will have to grieve all over again.
    That is why you need to prepare yourself mentally that he COULD be dead...so that IF he IS dead, it wont come as a shock. I mean, werent we put through enough on June 25th? Do you really want to live that all over again? There are so many BS stories out there that we cant tell now what is true and what isnt.

    Im not saying he's dead, but you just need to be prepared in case that is what actually happened. Of course we all know he is alive or we wouldnt be members of thsi board right?

    Keep your heads up....I will have no frowning on here!!!
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    Guys,


    PLEASE, Im begging you........PLEASE...I have done this and I advise you to do the same.

    Prepare yourself for the very real fact that MJ may have actually died. I personally know he is alive,,,,Ive had doubts yes, but whenver news of this nature comes out, alot of you lose hope and say you will have to grieve all over again.
    That is why you need to prepare yourself mentally that he COULD be dead...so that IF he IS dead, it wont come as a shock. I mean, werent we put through enough on June 25th? Do you really want to live that all over again? There are so many BS stories out there that we cant tell now what is true and what isnt.

    Im not saying he's dead, but you just need to be prepared in case that is what actually happened. Of course we all know he is alive or we wouldnt be members of thsi board right?

    Keep your heads up....I will have no frowning on here!!!


    how can i prepare myself for it?? IF he is dead when i don't think i can.. live.. normally.. It's too painful..
    ..........................................................................................................................
  • Guys,


    PLEASE, Im begging you........PLEASE...I have done this and I advise you to do the same.

    Prepare yourself for the very real fact that MJ may have actually died. I personally know he is alive,,,,Ive had doubts yes, but whenver news of this nature comes out, alot of you lose hope and say you will have to grieve all over again.
    That is why you need to prepare yourself mentally that he COULD be dead...so that IF he IS dead, it wont come as a shock. I mean, werent we put through enough on June 25th? Do you really want to live that all over again? There are so many BS stories out there that we cant tell now what is true and what isnt.

    Im not saying he's dead, but you just need to be prepared in case that is what actually happened. Of course we all know he is alive or we wouldnt be members of thsi board right?

    Keep your heads up....I will have no frowning on here!!!


    how can i prepare myself for it?? IF he is dead when i don't think i can.. live.. normally.. It's too painful..
    ..........................................................................................................................

    Well, you already thought he was dead on June 25th right?
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    yes.. I thought he is dead for 1month.. and i didn't eat, i couldn't sleep without sleeping-draught, I was crying all the time.. i didin't want to see anyone or talk... I was in depression..

    I don't think it would be that bad... but not easier...

    and I'm sure he's alive... ^.^
  • tabloidburntabloidburn Posts: 1,621
    Guys,


    PLEASE, Im begging you........PLEASE...I have done this and I advise you to do the same.

    Prepare yourself for the very real fact that MJ may have actually died. I personally know he is alive,,,,Ive had doubts yes, but whenver news of this nature comes out, alot of you lose hope and say you will have to grieve all over again.
    That is why you need to prepare yourself mentally that he COULD be dead...so that IF he IS dead, it wont come as a shock. I mean, werent we put through enough on June 25th? Do you really want to live that all over again? There are so many BS stories out there that we cant tell now what is true and what isnt.

    Im not saying he's dead, but you just need to be prepared in case that is what actually happened. Of course we all know he is alive or we wouldnt be members of thsi board right?

    Keep your heads up....I will have no frowning on here!!!


    how can i prepare myself for it?? IF he is dead when i don't think i can.. live.. normally.. It's too painful..
    ..........................................................................................................................

    Well, you already thought he was dead on June 25th right?

    I DIDN'T!!! honestly, it struck me but i had doubts from the very beginning, they lasted for as long as it took the ambulance pic to show. then i went like...>phew<...thank god, this MUST be bs then... <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
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    Guys,


    PLEASE, Im begging you........PLEASE...I have done this and I advise you to do the same.

    Prepare yourself for the very real fact that MJ may have actually died. I personally know he is alive,,,,Ive had doubts yes, but whenver news of this nature comes out, alot of you lose hope and say you will have to grieve all over again.
    That is why you need to prepare yourself mentally that he COULD be dead...so that IF he IS dead, it wont come as a shock. I mean, werent we put through enough on June 25th? Do you really want to live that all over again? There are so many BS stories out there that we cant tell now what is true and what isnt.

    Im not saying he's dead, but you just need to be prepared in case that is what actually happened. Of course we all know he is alive or we wouldnt be members of thsi board right?

    Keep your heads up....I will have no frowning on here!!!


    how can i prepare myself for it?? IF he is dead when i don't think i can.. live.. normally.. It's too painful..
    ..........................................................................................................................
    You say the you personally know he is alive.... is that your gut instinct telling you that? To me that means you know that for sure. Sorry to question you but that statement took my breath away, and that has happened to me a lot on here so I was just wondering, we all want him to be alive and find out that this was a Great Adventure, but sometimes I just can not get past the negative things that have come out, and we all know how good the press is for stuff like that.....now I have to tell myself to breath again, I'm getting restless...........
  • trishatrisha Posts: 58
    THERE R MORE CHANCES FOR THE WHOLE THING TO BE A HOAX THAN A MURDER.. OK IF THIS IS A MURDER THEN Y THE HELL THE FAMILY R DIVIDED IN THEIR BEHAVIOR, I MEAN THE SLIP UPS N HINTS BY THEM....THESE R NOT ACCIDENTAL SLIP UPS N ANYONE WITH COMMON SENSE CAN ANALYZE THAT. IF HE WAS MURDERED REALLY THEN THE REACTION WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT , I MEAN ONE SIDED, BUT NOT LIKE THIS. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PUBLIC CAMPAIGNING FOR JUSTICE... BUT NOT THIS KIND OF CLOWNISH BEHAVIOR...... IF THIS IS A HOAX HE WILL SURELY COME BACK ,MY POINT IS HOW LONG CAN HE HIDE IN DISGUISES... FOR HIS WHOLE LIFE ,SOMEONE WILL LEAK THE WHOLE THING N EXPOSE HIM.... N HOAX.
  • The last couple of weeks we've gone from MJ being dead a few hours before the paramedics arrived to MJ being alive in UCLA, it seems the truth is slowly being trickled out... imo we're heading towards something big.
  • trishatrisha Posts: 58
    may be they drag the issue for 6 more months... that is what i feel.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    rasyte, you're right. Well now we're going to see and hear things in the media, so get ready. Analyze everything you say. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • InfinityladyInfinitylady Posts: 1,006
    THE JACKSONOLOGIST » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:43 pm

    rasyte wrote:
    THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
    Guys,


    PLEASE, Im begging you........PLEASE...I have done this and I advise you to do the same.

    Prepare yourself for the very real fact that MJ may have actually died. I personally know he is alive,,,,Ive had doubts yes, but whenver news of this nature comes out, alot of you lose hope and say you will have to grieve all over again.
    That is why you need to prepare yourself mentally that he COULD be dead...so that IF he IS dead, it wont come as a shock. I mean, werent we put through enough on June 25th? Do you really want to live that all over again? There are so many BS stories out there that we cant tell now what is true and what isnt.

    Im not saying he's dead, but you just need to be prepared in case that is what actually happened. Of course we all know he is alive or we wouldnt be members of thsi board right?

    Keep your heads up....I will have no frowning on here!!!


    how can i prepare myself for it?? IF he is dead when i don't think i can.. live.. normally.. It's too painful..
    ..........................................................................................................................

    Well, you already thought he was dead on June 25th right?

    Jacksonologist,

    I agree with you. We should be prepared. No need for getting all depressed over again over something that happened June 25th. Not trying to be mean. But why go through it all over again. We have been around this circle long enough.

    I really hope he is not but if so then I have come to terms to accept it. It's nothing that I or noone else can do. People do die. MJ is as human as all of us on this board. If he is gone, then realize this is part of life. If he is alive and I really hope so, okay.
  • mjselfsweetmjselfsweet Posts: 146
    Everyone asks why this info just come out?

    #1 the hospital CANNOT disclose a persons medical files, HIPPA Laws. PRIVACY ACT.
    #2 Joe did fight for the hospital records and just recently got them.
    #3 It takes a bit for Joe and Oxman, to decide what to do and move forward with the case, that's why they are now releasing this info. Joe's doing it, not the hospital.

    I hope MJ is still alive, but .........
  • darkchilddarkchild Posts: 1,161
    The last couple of weeks we've gone from MJ being dead a few hours before the paramedics arrived to MJ being alive in UCLA, it seems the truth is slowly being trickled out... imo we're heading towards something big.

    My sentiments exactly. My gut tells me that MJ is alive. I go by my gut instincts. I just love how the media changes the story as they please.

    Tired of injustice
    Tired of the schemes
    The lies are disgusting
    So what does it mean
    Kicking me down
    I got to get up
    As jacked as it sounds
    The whole system sucks
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    I have the following possibility thought about this:
    1. Joe does not aware of hoax or he knows, but because MJ left in his fake will Joe without money, he is trying to get money from wrongful death case, or
    2. "MICHAEL JACKSON was resuscitated by doctors an hour after he suffered the cardiac arrest"- if this is possible at all to gain paulse after cardiac arrest, he was resuscitated and suddenly and right at the hospital decides to move on with hoax and be announced dead.
    But then the whole autopcy report is fake or it was done on somebody else.
    Remember the Pianogames was writing what makes him beleive that MJ is alive, because there is no possibility to have low paulse along with cardiac arrest.

    I think we should read about cardiac arrest, coma conditions at some medical site.
  • smilessmiles Posts: 129
    well i feel by reading this that they are preparing us to the final.. that he is stil alive..

    im sorry i can't help feeling that this hole thing did happen. but mj survived but has the need for allot of rest and the fam only said that he was dead so that he could have peace and they could make some money <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    so in my head he is feeling better now and they are preparing us for the truth.
  • I am not bashing anyone in his family and I don't want anyone to bash me for saying this but I fill I need to say it. So, here goes.

    Why in the world is Joe sueing for money. He knows that Murray does not have any money. And why is he sueing for money for his own gain. IMO, if he sues and wins he should give the money to a charity that Michael was passionate about. Joe has already tried to get money from the estate for his own use and now he is suing Murray. Katherine had already been asked if she was going to file a wrongful death suit and she said that there would be no point, it would be like trying to get blood from a turnip. I fully understand that Joe is hurt and wants Murray to hurt as well, but there is no point trying to take something that he doesnt have. If Murray is not convicted and it turns out that Michael really did pass, Murray will get his. Not only will he be answering to God but he will also be answering to Michaels fans.
  • Very easy dragonflylilies.
    He wants to prove a conspiracy with Murray and the State (Branca) involved together to kill MJ...
    So the Will could be revoqued.
  • MYLOVELYONEMYLOVELYONE Posts: 175
    tmz:
    Furthermore, sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray insists he was able to restart Jackson's heart at the singer's home before paramedics arrived and then maintained heart activity in the ambulance.

    Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.

    It also contradicts Joe Jackson's lawyer, Brian Oxman, who tells TMZ he believes Jackson was dead even before paramedics arrived at the house. Oxman says the weak pulse detected at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.

    We're told the criminal case is shaping up as a legal war between medical experts, who will be interpreting medical tests and charts in various ways -- always confusing for a jury.


    http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/30/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-heart-ekg-paramedics-ucla-medical-center-wrongful-death/

    I dont understand if he was resucitaded why we know that now and not after <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
  • yspaddayspadda Posts: 86
    tmz:
    Furthermore, sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray insists he was able to restart Jackson's heart at the singer's home before paramedics arrived and then maintained heart activity in the ambulance.

    Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.

    It also contradicts Joe Jackson's lawyer, Brian Oxman, who tells TMZ he believes Jackson was dead even before paramedics arrived at the house. Oxman says the weak pulse detected at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.

    We're told the criminal case is shaping up as a legal war between medical experts, who will be interpreting medical tests and charts in various ways -- always confusing for a jury.


    http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/30/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-heart-ekg-paramedics-ucla-medical-center-wrongful-death/

    I dont understand if he was resucitaded why we know that now and not after <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->

    And what about the ambulance ? Do the ambulances drive so slowly when they have someone with weak pulse or heart activity and they are hoping to save his life ? From the ambulance, it looked it was not an emergency anymore.
  • LadyMedicLadyMedic Posts: 169
    tmz:
    Furthermore, sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray insists he was able to restart Jackson's heart at the singer's home before paramedics arrived and then maintained heart activity in the ambulance.

    Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.

    It also contradicts Joe Jackson's lawyer, Brian Oxman, who tells TMZ he believes Jackson was dead even before paramedics arrived at the house. Oxman says the weak pulse detected at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.

    We're told the criminal case is shaping up as a legal war between medical experts, who will be interpreting medical tests and charts in various ways -- always confusing for a jury.


    http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/30/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-heart-ekg-paramedics-ucla-medical-center-wrongful-death/

    I dont understand if he was resucitaded why we know that now and not after <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->

    And what about the ambulance ? Do the ambulances drive so slowly when they have someone with weak pulse or heart activity and they are hoping to save his life ? From the ambulance, it looked it was not an emergency anymore.

    When someone is in cardiac arrest, the ambulance transport lights and sirens. It would have been very irresponsible for the driver to have flown out of the driveway as the medics in the back were actually working on the patient. I know a lot of people don't understand that. And just because this may come up, it was totally appropriate to not have sirens on at the time they were leaving the residence (they DID have lights on). And to argue that further, it took them 6 minutes to get from the house to the hospital. That time is very quick, so they definitely didn't just cruise there, ya know?
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