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Thanks to Chance over at MJHD.........take a read.....its pretty long, but there are some things I am really quite shockled about!!!!

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Q: How do you feel about kissing on a first date?

MJ: I can dig it! I think that if you dig a chick enough to ask her out, you’re crazy if you don’t want to kiss her. And, if she accepted the date, she likes you and probably wants to be kissed. So, I couldn’t think of any reason why you shouldn’t! I think I’d like to wait ’till the end of the date before I kissed her, though! I think most girls are afraid you’re comin’ on too fast if you kiss them right away. But, if I could tell that chick I was with was just waitin’ to be kissed, I wouldn’t mess around wastin’ time! I’d take her in my arms, bend her face back to rest on the back of her seat, and slowly lean toward her, gazin’ into her eyes and talking in a slow, smooth voice. Then, I’d press my lips against hers, gently at first, then harder and harder until we’re both lost in a soul kiss of true love.”-13-year-old Michael Jackson, Teen Star Magazine, 1972.

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"I HAVE THIS WEAKNESS...I LIKE TO LOOK AT GIRLS."-LITTLE MICHAEL, 1972


This is a big can of worms-in fact, a topic so big I know one blog will never cover it, so I’m going to be spacing this out over 2-3 blogs the next few nights. Why is it a subject worth blogging about? The answer is, for a number of reasons. First of all, because I think it’s a topic that fascinates most of his fans, whether it be because of the mystery of trying to figure out what “floated his boat” or simply because, since a great percentage of us are female, we simply want to know: What kind of women did Michael like? (The answer: Depends on what kind of relationship we’re talking. If the goal was as simple as a one-night stand, Michael went for pretty much what all men go for…a great body was usually enough to get you noticed. But as far as something more lasting, well, that’s where it gets stickier and much more complex).

But I think a few myths we can safely put to rest. Michael Jackson was most assuredly not asexual. This was a myth that grew out of some reportedly awkward situations that happened when he was only a teenager. Now, if one were to ask what I think personally, yes, I think he had some “issues” and some hangups about sex that were a leftover by-product of his strict Jehovah’s Witness upbringing. At the very least, he grew up with a confusion compounded by his mother, who taught him from a young age that one must remain pure until marriage, and then on the other hand, as a child traveling and touring with his dad and brothers on the road, often witnessing their sexual encounters with groupies. At the tender age of five, he was often performing in strip clubs. The idea of sex as a forbidden thing that grown-ups do but “don’t talk about” became firmly ingrained in him.


But whatever early issues he had, he worked through them. I’m convinced that the adult Michael had a very active, redblooded, heterosexual and quite guilt-free love life, despite what the tabloids and (cough) Ian Halperin would have us believe. For starters, he quit the Jehovah’s Witness church in 1988 (but would be plagued with doubt over the decision for years). Secondly, there’s just too much evidence to believe otherwise.

Next myth: Michael was gay. Well, according to the article I’m going to quote here, there’s at least one young man who can tell you he most assuredly was not, and he would know…because he tried to make an advance more than once, and was rebuffed (politely the first time; not so the second). I am not going to go as far as to say I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was or wasn’t because that would be absurd. And as we all know from listening to the claims of Ian Halperin and Diane Dimond (who evidently must have been peeping through the keyhole when Michael and Lisa Marie were married, since she ‘claims” to know all about their sex life, or lack thereof) nothing is more ludicrous than someone who wasn’t there claiming to know all about what went down. I can only say that what I do know comes from much careful and thoughtful study of the evidence and testimony that clearly exists–things for which any person of reasonable intelligence ought to be able to put two and two together.


Michael knew that he had a lot of gay fans, and clearly went out of his way to remain neutral on the topic. When Martin Bashir asked him this in 2003, Michael said he didn’t want to address the topic on camera. In the Bashir version, we get only this response, and then Bashir commenting: “Clearly, he doesn’t want to answer that question for obvious reasons.” But in the unedited version that Michael filmed, you can hear what Michael’s actual response was, and why he preferred that his reponse not be made on-camera. He said, “I don’t want to answer that question. But if you turn off the camera, I’ll tell you. No, absolutely, I am not gay. But I have millions of gay fans, and if they believe I’m gay, then let them believe I’m gay. I don’t care. I don’t want to offend anybody.”

Thirdly, I think I can pretty safely say he was NOT a pedophile, and that his tastes definitely did not run to young boys. I say this not because I’m a fan who wants to believe that, but as a reasonably intelligent person who has thoroughly researched all of the evidence of both cases, both of which were extortion attempts, and at least one that I remain fairly convinced came about as a result of a very redblooded, heterosexual case of being sprung-for the boy’s mother. (Let’s just say that I’m fairly convinced it was his lust for June Chandler that was at least partially responsible for putting Michael into the wrong place, at the wrong time)

Once one puts all the myths aside, however, one realizes that trying to untangle all the mysteries of MJ’s love life is still…well, quite a web to tackle. In all of his interviews, he always maintained that he was “a gentleman” and not a kiss-and-tell kind of guy. In his autobiography Moonwalk, he states that the only relationships he will ever discuss with the public are the ones with women who were in the public eye-fellow celebs, like himself. Thus, we know about Tatum, Brooke, Lisa Marie, Diana Ross, Madonna (which I DO beleive they had a relationship, however stormy or brief, and which is a subect I’m saving for its very own blog) and even Princess Diana, whom he confessed was “my type” and also confessed to many midnight phone conversations with, during a time when they were both plagued with marital problems (though how far it went beyond friendship is anybody’s guess). But he pretty much says in his book, flat out, there were others…others whose names would never be known, because they weren’t famous and he wished to respect their privacy, just as he would hope they would respect his.


And clearly, whatever else you can say about the man, Michael was a man of his word in that regard. To this day, those women remain mysterious, shadowy figures, whose names Michael would not mention even to his closest friends except in carefully guarded, cryptic language, including one who has always been referred to simply as “S.” (“S” may have been a girl named Shana, who has been discussed in many circles, but again that is just guessing). One thing was for sure: If things advanced to the stage that he was referring to you by name, or even by the first letter in your name, it was pretty serious. Of course, fans will speculate as we will…and some of us can come up with some ingenious guesses. But until any of these women actually come forward, or indisputable evidence presents itself, any guesses are just that–guesses.

Mostly, it was for their own protection–and occasionally, his own. There was for many years, for example, a rumor of a Middle Eastern princess, already bethrothed to another man, and whose rich and powerful father (so it was said) would have had Michael Jackson’s head had he ever known how many times she was secretly flown into the US for her trysts with him.

“We’d start the song and somewhere in the middle I’d go out into the audience, crawl under the tables, and pull up the ladies’ skirts to look under.”-MJ, talking about his early childhood experience of performing in strip clubs.


The very plain and utterly unassuming Debbie Rowe would have probably been just another one of these anonymous, non-famous women, had it not been for one thing-she got pregnant. And Katherine Jackson was not about to settle for a bastard grandchild.

So…ding-dong, wedding bells! And just as quick…divorce. Ouch. I think Michael was an easy guy to love, but not to live with. Maybe he just never had the fortune to hook up with Miss Right, but for most of his life, marriage and a soul mate would be the two things that would elude him most.

Now speaking of marriage and childbirth…well, everyone seems to have their own opinions about that, too. Another one of the great mysteries: Were the kids his, or not? Well, first of all, it’s not even an issue that needs to be addressed. He raised those kids and they are his children. But if you want to know my opinions on whether he was the biological father, I say yes, absolutely. It’s a subject I’ll address in more depth tomorrow night, but I mean c’mon..all of these far-fetched “theories” about sperm donors and such craziness are far more ludicrous than simply accepting the fact that he fathered his own children.


It seems funny to me that the very same tabloids who will swear up and down that he could not be the father of Prince, Paris and Blanket will then go to great lengths to report about all of his alleged “love children” all over the world. I mean, c’mon, you can’t have it both ways…if someone is capable of being a stud muffin all over the globe, they don’t suddenly become infertile when they marry and have legal children.

To those people I will just say: Unless you have some sort of access to his medical records that the rest of us do not, there is no reason to ASSUME Michael wasn’t in perfect “working order” and perfectly capable of fathering his own kids. I mean, I hate to sound crude about it, but for some, that’s the only language they understand.

“We worked in more than one club that had strippers in those days. I used to stand in the wings of this one place in Chicago and watch a lady whose name was Mary Rose. I must have been nine or ten. This girl would take off her clothes and her panties and throw them to the audience. The men would pick them up and sniff them and yell. My brothers and I would be watching all this, taking it in, and my father wouldn’t mind. We were exposed to a lot doing that kind of circuit. In one place they had cut a little hole in the musician’s dressing room wall that also happened to act as a wall to the ladies’ bathroom. You could peek through this hole, and I saw stuff I’ve never forgotten. Guys on that circuit were so wild, they did stuff like drilling holes into the walls of the ladies’ loo all the time. Of course, I’m sure that my brothers and I were fighting over who got to look through the hole. “Get outta the way, it’s my turn!” Pushing each other away to make room for ourselves.”-MJ, Excerpt From Moonwalk

MICHAEL AND MADONNA. MADONNA: "I TOLD HIM, I AM NOT GOING TO DISNEYLAND." MICHAEL: "I TOLD HER, I AM NOT LOOKING AT THOSE SPANKY BOOKS."
As for Blankets mother, many will recall that once again, in the Bashir interview, he “appeared” to contradict himself, first stating that Blanket’s mother was a black woman, then stating she was a surrogate unknown to him. I can’t say for sure if this was another case of Bashir’s infamous editing, or a genuine contradiction. But the general consensus that has come to be accepted is that Blanket was born of an unknown surrogate mother. However, there is growing evidence to support that this is a much more complex (though in some ways, far more simpler) story than anyone may have initially suspected. All I will say for now is that it is very likely that Blanket’s mother was known to Michael, that this was probably a real relationship, and that for whatever reasons, he chose to protect her identity. Which again, if you think about it, makes far more sense than all of these far-fetched surrogate and test tube theories. I think that in time, the truth will come out, and that when the whole story is known and people understand his real reasons for protecting the people in his life, a lot of people are going to feel incredibly guilty and stupid.

I’m going to leave you with this article from one of Michael’s former associates, Frank Cascio (whom he apparently confided in, a LOT). The article was written while Michael was still alive (hence, the use of present tense). It’s an article that has been passed around quite a bit on the fan forums, and has been quite controversial, mainly because, I think, some fans have a problem with the notion of Michael as a “womanizer.” And some simply have a problem with so-called “friends” who are always too ready to spill the beans…if the price is right.


But I have to say, I love it. I love it because I think Frank is telling it straight, and because I personally prefer to think of MJ as a redblooded man than some weirdly asexual being. I mean, I can SEE him going to other women just to spite Lisa Marie. He was hurt; he did what a lot of hurt people in a bad relationship do. It doesn’t make it wrong or right; it just is what it is:

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“Anybody who genuinely knows Michael (which is none of you), knows that
Michael is straight – almost to a fault of himself, considering that he
doesn’t look like the most masculine of brothas. You’re so quick to
believe Scott, which is hysterical because if you knew their history,
you’d know how weirded out Michael was by Scott’s advances. Michael’s not
overtly homophobic, but he is old school and isn’t completely
comfortable with it. However, given the nature of his profession, he has tried
his best to be accepting and because he tries to be a good Christian, he
does not judge, he leaves that to God. He still gets incredibly
uncomfortable by advances by anything remotely male….which brings us to
Scott. Scott made a pass at Michael. Michael ignored it, initially. The
second time, Michael told him to back the #### off (in more polite
language, of course…Michael was still quite young and sweet and innocent
back in the ’80s, if a dude tried something similar NOW, he might get
punched in the face). They haven’t spoken since then. The closest he ever
got to Michael after about ‘84 was that his boyfriend was friends with
Priscilla Presley’s makeup artist. The two haven’t spoken since Scott
tried to get all up on Mikey.
One may ask themselves, if his motive for coming forward now was out of
some sort of moral obligation and a desire to crush MJ’s “strategy” of
declaring himself heterosexual, why didn’t he come forward in 1993?
Maids, cooks, ex-guards, everybody and their momma was coming forward with
“claims,” why not then? Or, if the motivation behind this is genuine
concern for the welfare of children and not money, why not go to the
police with the things you’ve seen (i.e. Scott claiming to have seen child
porn on Michael’s nightstand)?
Simple, none of it happened and Scott was still livin’ the life with
all of Liberace’s dough. Poverty brings forth all sorts of “memories.”
Isn’t it convenient that just as soon as his cash stash is running dry,
he tells the world he had sex with Michael Jackson?
Please.
Let me break this down for you people and pay attention because I don’t
like doing it more than once. Michael Jackson is thoroughly
heterosexual. He does not like men. He does not like boys. He likes women over the
age of 18. Shiiiiit, even before he was 18, he liked women well over
the age of 18. It’s no secret within certain circles that Diana Ross was
his first. The poor guy thought he was going to marry her but she @#%$
him over with Gene Simmons and Arne Naess. He was pretty naive back
then, so he chose not to see the obvious. Then he was celibate for about 3
years, before becoming involved with a pretty, blond employee of his,
an actress from a popular ’80s/early ’90s sitcom, a singer that nobody
cares about anymore but was the ish back in the day, some
groupie/secretary, June Chandler (the mother of punk @#$%$ Jordan who got jealous
of mommy’s relationship with Michael) and, of course, Lisa Marie. Lisa
Marie was the only one he allowed himself to become more than just
sexually involved with since Diana, that boy was sprung. Lisa Marie,
however, led him to believe they would have a family of their own, but stayed
on the pill anyway because even if she said she was a rebel, the little
@#$%$ didn’t want mommy dearest to get mad at her for having a lil
black child. Mike found the pills, split, messed around with a couple of
other women with the goal of getting one pregnant just to hurt Lisa (he
can be an as.shole sometimes, true) and eventually knocked up Debbie,
which, (if I didn’t love and adore his children and think think they
saved his life) I would say was probably one of the biggest mistakes of his
life. He was never faithful to Debbie after they married, never even
wanted to marry her but Mike doesn’t like to break his mother’s heart. He
and Lisa continued having sex until 1999 (they weren’t “together,” they
were just @#%$), until he met his third child’s mother, fell very much
in love with her, but he is his father’s son, so he wasn’t entirely
faithful to her, which is why they split up shortly after she found out
she was pregnant. From that time, up until right before these new
bullish allegations broke, he was pretty much a dog. No attachment, just sex.
He has no time to get attached to somebody and then depressed again
after they part ways now that he has his children. I doubt he has time for
anybody other than his children and his lawyers now.

There, you have it. Take it or leave it, but it’s the truth. Mike would
hate me for putting his business out here like this, but at least it’s
accurate, unlike all of the other trash going around now. He ain’t my
boss anymore, so he’s just going to have to put up with it.

Summary: Scott is full of ish, Michael isn’t gay and he sho’ as h.ell
ain’t a pedophile.”-Frank Cascio

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UPDATE: As a follow-up to this piece, there is an interesting post on IMDB that sheds further light on this article (which, as it turns out, may have been falsely credited to Frank Cascio). It may have actually been an associate by the name of Bob Jones who then allowed Frank to take the fallout for it. There’s also some additional interesting background info about what transpired with Scott, who appraently had tried to sell his “story” to the National Enquirer. I’ll keep you posted on any new revelations regarding this matter.

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Comments

  • That blog is very insightful! I learned some things about Michael that I never knew.
    I liked reading about his "man voice" too! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    And I never knew Michael had so many accidents while performing!
  • PinkTopazPinkTopaz Posts: 1,013
    OMG, Jacksonologist, this is great! I remember the second, highly amusing article there, but does this blog-site have more like it? What section?
  • Very interesting blog...thank you for sharing.
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