<br />@Scorpionchik, @ SandyThyme: <br />Didn't either ONE of you read my personal experience? I really didn't want to get into it, but I'm going to now - I didn't say everything.<br /><br />Propofol leaves you GROGGY FOR THE REST OF THE DAY, perhaps DAYS! You sleep for the rest of the day! Now tell me: how can you use that, ONCE a day, or every few days? You're DOWN & OUT for a few days at a time, because it taxes your body severely!<br /><br />Next - any nurses here? If there are, you KNOW about the "BIG BM!" The sheets are CLEAN, where the Paramedics claim Michael had died in there care. IMPOSSIBLE!<br /><br />When you die, your sphincter relaxes, and you pee and defecate on yourself.<br /><br />NOW you see why I don't believe ONE iota of any of the witness accounts? I didn't say a word, until after this went to court! Out of all the infamous descriptions, THIS most important one, was LEFT OUT. That's why they use the LA Coroner bags, to contain feces, urine and blood! <br /><br />Let me see - a sheet tied at the top of the head, belted, that moves in the helicopter, that's then moved to the side, inside of "RESCUE 5" of all things. Oh, plus it was moved to the side, and the OTHER gurney was moved. <br /><br />Gee, sounds like an Illusion, wouldn't you say? <br /><br />As disgusting as what I've pointed out, friends of mine worked in hospices. Each and every time, it happened, when people died.<br /><br />So tell me: what rocks have I now left unturned, in conjunction with what Jermaine and Latoya have said?<br /><br />If you don't believe Michael committed an Illusion worthy of Harry Houdini, then I just don't know what to say to convince you otherwise.<br /><br />
<br /><br />This may not be believed but please know that I would not knowingly lie to you.<br /><br />I'm not a nurse but I do work in the medical field. During the trial I asked a hematologist that I work closely with and he told me that the bladder does not have to empty itself. He's answered other questions I've asked as well. I did not ask about BM, however. Does this mean MJ is dead? No. It just means that the notion that the bladder always empties itself is false.<br /><br />In fact, it was this doctor that asked me if I was watching the trial as he knew I was following the story closely. He knows what I believe and he has not made fun of my belief at all, which is refreshing.<br /><br />Blessings
<br />[size=14pt]Akon: Michael IS just one of the healthiest people that I know 8-) .[/size]<br /><br /><br /><br />Quote:<br />“[…] Michael is just one of the healthiest people that I know. He was pressuring me to stay healthy, like, "Akon eat right. What are you doing out there on the road? Are you eating? Are you exercising? Are you drinking a lot of water?" He felt like nothing could be accomplished in life if you're not healthy. […] I thought he was completely healthy from what I've seen, just a lot of people never got close enough to Mike to even know. It's always speculation. It was never them actually knowing. […] Personally, he was a mentor [to me]; he was like a big brother. He always kept me focused. If I had issues, he would console me through them. Like a lot of the controversial s*** that I was going through, Mike was really the one that really taught me how to deal with them, because no one deals with controversy better than Mike. He's been through it; he knows how to deal with it (Touche Akon ) !!!! ). He would say, "You've got to make sure you stay focused on the music. Don't let it de-focus you from your creation.” […] He was working on a new album, and at the same time doing his re-release [of "Thriller"]. The connection was just instant. It felt like we'd known each other for years. I knew everything about Mike, and it was really surprising that he knew everything about me. The first three months I met him, his first gift to me was a $250,000 watch; it was all diamonds. That's how giving he was. He just wanted everyone around him happy, you know? He was an incredible guy. […] We were working on a lot of ideas. A lot of the songs that were done were all ideas; they weren't really complete songs. He was the kind of person that wanted to lay all the ideas down [first]. He had put everything aside just so he could focus on this tour over at the O2 in Europe. That was his main priority, and he was so excited about it. He was like, "Man. We sold this out in a minute. My fans are still there. They still love me. They're alive." That motivated him more than anything. The main reason he had even accepted these dates was because he wanted his kids to see his legacy -- they never got to see Dad up close and personal, doing it. They've seen videotapes and concert footage. He was trying to create the most incredible show, so his kids could witness it. […] Shortly after the re-release of "Thriller," he had to go out and promote it, and then I was on the road. Every time he was in L.A. or [Las] Vegas, I probably stopped off for two-hour, three-hour visits, hung out with him and the kids... then I would go back out on the road or to the studio, but he would always keep me updated on what was going on. […] We probably talked about three months (before June 25), before I went on this European run. The last we spoke he was in L.A. working on and rehearsing for the tour, and I was actually going to go check out a couple of those rehearsals, see where he was at. He was eating healthy, working out, getting ready for this show.”<br /><br />“I really want people to remember Mike as the entertainer, the creator. He was really the totem pole of what success was in the industry. When it comes to breaking records and selling records and creating concepts and ideas and high-performance concerts and shows, he set the standard for it. Not only that, but he was an incredible father, a great dad. He treated his kids like kings and queens. He was a philanthropist, gave millions and millions of dollars to charity, always wanted to find new ways to change the world. He was really funny, like, just an ordinary, all out great guy. I wish the world could have seen him outside of the entertainment, just seen Mike the person /bravo/ .” <br /><br />[Akon, Senegalese-American R&B singer-songwriter, rapper, record producer]<br />
<br /><br />Just a thought about that red sofa they are sitting on - it kind of looks like the one MJ was having made. Hmmm.
<br />@Scorpionchik, @ SandyThyme: <br />Didn't either ONE of you read my personal experience? I really didn't want to get into it, but I'm going to now - I didn't say everything.<br /><br />Propofol leaves you GROGGY FOR THE REST OF THE DAY, perhaps DAYS! You sleep for the rest of the day! Now tell me: how can you use that, ONCE a day, or every few days? You're DOWN & OUT for a few days at a time, because it taxes your body severely!<br /><br />Next - any nurses here? If there are, you KNOW about the "BIG BM!" The sheets are CLEAN, where the Paramedics claim Michael had died in there care. IMPOSSIBLE!<br /><br />When you die, your sphincter relaxes, and you pee and defecate on yourself.<br /><br />NOW you see why I don't believe ONE iota of any of the witness accounts? I didn't say a word, until after this went to court! Out of all the infamous descriptions, THIS most important one, was LEFT OUT. That's why they use the LA Coroner bags, to contain feces, urine and blood! <br /><br />Let me see - a sheet tied at the top of the head, belted, that moves in the helicopter, that's then moved to the side, inside of "RESCUE 5" of all things. Oh, plus it was moved to the side, and the OTHER gurney was moved. <br /><br />Gee, sounds like an Illusion, wouldn't you say? <br /><br />As disgusting as what I've pointed out, friends of mine worked in hospices. Each and every time, it happened, when people died.<br /><br />So tell me: what rocks have I now left unturned, in conjunction with what Jermaine and Latoya have said?<br /><br />If you don't believe Michael committed an Illusion worthy of Harry Houdini, then I just don't know what to say to convince you otherwise.<br /><br />
<br /><br />This may not be believed but please know that I would not knowingly lie to you.<br /><br />I'm not a nurse but I do work in the medical field. During the trial I asked a hematologist that I work closely with and he told me that the bladder does not have to empty itself. He's answered other questions I've asked as well. I did not ask about BM, however. Does this mean MJ is dead? No. It just means that the notion that the bladder always empties itself is false.<br /><br />In fact, it was this doctor that asked me if I was watching the trial as he knew I was following the story closely. He knows what I believe and he has not made fun of my belief at all, which is refreshing.<br /><br />Blessings<br />
<br /><br />You are correct, concerning the bladder. Many times, urine output can within 24 hours, especially if the person slips into a coma.<br />Michael was definitely ALIVE, because the disposable cotton pad was DRY, so no BM! He had a catheter on, but was producing normally as far as anyone knows.<br /><br />I know - I've learned some pretty bizarre things, but then Michael's only a few years older than me. I'm only a few steps behind, in figuring this all out. <br /><br />But always, the bowels emptied themselves upon death - my friend had the duty of cleaning up the hospice center.
Thank you Tink:) <br /><br />Just brilliant information:) <br /><br />THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR SHARING:)<br /><br />IT WAS GREATLY NEEDED TO BRING FORTH THE TRUTH:)<br /><br />
<br />Finally some people who are telling the truth, Michael was not addicted to propofol... <br />
<br /><br />Where are you girl? Missing you so much. <br />
<br />Agreed! Have you heard how she's doing with her injured hip? Hope she comes back soon!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Thank you Tink for your info on propofol, death and bm's.<br />A couple of years ago my daughter suddenly got some virus sickness while I was at work. She had a friend over which I'm so very thankful for. My daughter fell to the floor turning blue, and her friend called 911. In the hospital they hydrated her. My daughter told me only recently that she was very embarrassed that when she came to, learned that she had soiled herself, and the doctor had told her she very nearly didn't make it.
<br />Finally some people who are telling the truth, Michael was not addicted to propofol... <br />
<br /><br />Where are you girl? Missing you so much. <br />
<br />Agreed! Have you heard how she's doing with her injured hip? Hope she comes back soon!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Thank you Tink for your info on propofol, death and bm's.<br />A couple of years ago my daughter suddenly got some virus sickness while I was at work. She had a friend over which I'm so very thankful for. My daughter fell to the floor turning blue, and her friend called 911. In the hospital they hydrated her. My daughter told me only recently that she was very embarrassed that when she came to, learned that she had soiled herself, and the doctor had told her she very nearly didn't make it.<br />
<br /><br />@MJonMind - That's closer than anyone should have to think about, the poor dear. Glad she pulled through! <br />That's one of my nightmares, next to dying in an airplane crash while eating a meal. Of course, that's just my phobia - head down in the mashed potatoes. :oops:
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