smooth criminal made me think!
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Yesterday I herd smooth criminal and something hit me in a very weird way! Before I get into everything I did a search on the site and didn't see to much on the subjects or not anyhting at all. If there is sorry for starting a new thread on it.
Ok like i said Smooth Criminal came on the radio yesterday and somthing hit me and hit me in a very weird way! The name Annie kept sending a wired vibe in a way I can't explain! So, when I was able to get online I tried to find out if the song may have eluded to a true crime. ( I am some what into true crimes, mobsters and all that.) well, the name Annie made me think of the killer Richard Speck. <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Speck<!-- m --> But, the killings were on a wednesday and Mary Ann Jordan did die. Nothing came out of that but it did lead me another way and made me come to the point of where I am now.
The wheels in my head started to turn and turn one thing lead to another. It shock me!
New World Order & Global Mind Control. I hope that I don't get bashed for the people I name and how I interpret what I researched.
The way I see it at this point is that these people in some way are part of or victims of NWO and Mind Control. Going to start with Sharon Tate. She was the wife of Roman Polanski. She was a Murder victim of the manson family. <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Tate<!-- m --> Ok, now if you take time to read up.
from wiki: An edited version of The Fearless Vampire Killers was released, and Polanski expressed disgust at Ransohoff for "butchering" his film. Newsweek called it "a witless travesty", and it was not profitable. Tate's performance was largely ignored in reviews, and when she was mentioned, it was usually in relation to her nude scenes. Eye of the Devil was released shortly after, and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer attempted to build interest in Tate with its press release describing her as "one of the screen's most exciting new personalities". The film failed to find an audience, and most reviews were indifferent, neither praising nor condemning it. The New York Times wrote that one of the few highlights was Tate's "chillingly beautiful but expressionless performance".[1]
While Tate reportedly wanted a traditional marriage, Polanski remained somewhat promiscuous and described Tate's attitude to his infidelity as "Sharon's big hang-up". He reminded Tate that she had promised that she would not try to change him.[1] Tate accepted Polanski's conditions, though she confided to friends that she hoped he would change. Peter Evans quoted Tate as saying, "We have a good arrangement. Roman lies to me and I pretend to believe him."[1
She returned from London to Los Angeles, on July 20, 1969, traveling alone on the RMS Queen Elizabeth. Polanski was due to return on August 12 in time for the birth, and he asked Frykowski and Folger to stay in the house with Tate until then.
On August 8, 1969, Tate was two weeks from giving birth. She entertained two friends, actresses Joanna Pettet and Barbara Lewis, for lunch at her home, confiding in them her disappointment at Polanski's delay in returning from London. In the afternoon Polanski phoned her. Her younger sister Debra also called to ask if she and their sister Patti could spend the night with her, but Sharon declined. In the evening she went to her favorite restaurant, El Coyote, with Sebring, Frykowski and Folger, returning about 10:30 p.m.[1]
During the night they were murdered by members of Charles Manson's "Family" and their bodies discovered the following morning by Tate's housekeeper, Winifred Chapman. Police arrived at the scene to find the body of a young man, later identified as Steven Parent, shot to death in his car, which was in the driveway. Inside the house, the bodies of Tate and Sebring were found in the living room; a long rope tied around each of their necks connected them. On the front lawn lay the bodies of Frykowski and Folger. All of the victims, except Parent, had been stabbed numerous times. The coroner's report for Tate noted that she had been stabbed sixteen times, and that "five of the wounds were in and of themselves fatal".[17]
Police took the only survivor at the address, the caretaker William Garretson, for questioning. Garretson lived in the guest house which was located on the property, but a short distance from the house, and not immediately visible. As the first suspect, he was questioned and submitted to a polygraph test. He said that Parent had visited him at approximately 11:30 p.m. and left after a few minutes. Garretson said he had no involvement in the murders and did not know anything that could help the investigation. Police accepted his explanation and he was allowed to leave.
Polanski had been informed of the murders and returned to Los Angeles where police, unable to determine a motive, questioned him about his wife and friends. The funerals for the five victims were held on Wednesday, August 13. Sharon Tate was interred in the Holy Cross Cemetery, Culver City, California, with her son, Paul Richard Polanski (named posthumously for Polanski's and Tate's fathers), in her arms. The funerals of Tate and Sebring were separated by several hours to allow mourners to attend both.
Life magazine devoted a lengthy article to the murders and featured photographs of the crime scenes. Polanski was interviewed for the article and allowed himself to be photographed in the living room where Tate and Sebring had died, Tate's dried blood clearly visible on the floor in front of him. Widely criticized for his actions, he argued that he wanted to know who was responsible and was willing to shock the magazine's readers in the hope that someone would come forward with information.[5]
Curiosity about the victims led to the re-release of Tate's films, achieving greater popularity than they had in their initial runs. Some newspapers began to speculate on the motives for the murders. Some of the published photographs of Tate were allegedly taken at a Satanic ritual, but were later proven to have been production photographs from Eye of the Devil. Friends spoke out against the portrayal of Tate by some elements of the media. Mia Farrow said she was as "sweet and pure a human being as I have ever known", while Patty Duke remembered her as "a gentle, gentle creature. I was crazy about her, and I don't know anyone who wasn't". Polanski berated a crowd of journalists at a press conference, saying that many times they had written that Tate "was beautiful. Maybe the most beautiful woman in the world. But did you ever write how good she was?".[1] Peter Evans later quoted the actor Laurence Harvey, who commented on Polanski immediately after the murders, "This could destroy Roman. Marriage vows mean nothing to him but few men have adored a woman as much as he adored Sharon."[11]
Polanski later admitted that in the months following the murders he suspected various friends and associates, and his paranoia subsided only when the killers were arrested. Newspapers claimed that many Hollywood stars were moving out of the city, while others were reported to have installed security systems in their homes. Writer Dominick Dunne later recalled the tension:
“ The shock waves that went through the town were beyond anything I had ever seen before. People were convinced that the rich and famous of the community were in peril. Children were sent out of town. Guards were hired. Steve McQueen packed a gun when he went to Jay Sebring's funeral.[18]
Ok before I go on.. "Curiosity about the victims led to the re-release of Tate's films, achieving greater popularity than they had in their initial runs. Some newspapers began to speculate on the motives for the murders." Does that kinda make you think...lol
want to add one more thing.. I can't find the link to this. I wish I booked marked it. On one site It talked about how Polanski tried to have sex with a female on the way to Tate's funeral.
Ok, on to Charles Manson.. This kinda makes me think... Could Manson be telling the truth? Every since I was little I was told or watched something saying that he was this or he did this. Could this be in a way Mind Control?
I came across some videos and made me think even more! <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk54b_DSOi8&NR=1<!-- m -->
<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIfGj_55 ... re=related<!-- m -->
Could he of been an escape goat? Hope you see where i am going with this...lol
Ok, on to the Zodiac Killer <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac_Killer<!-- m -->
He use the media to strike fear and exploit his crimes.. He was never caught! Makes you think huh? lol
There is a few more people that I can go on about but really don't want to make this post too long.. lol
In the end the song lead me to something I never thought it would!
Anyone know how MJ came up with Smooth Criminal? When I tried to wiki it. Wiki wouldn't load when I first tried to find out and still will not load. *sigh*
Also anyone know if MJ worked with roman polanski at any time? I thought at one time I heard that Polanski was his favorite director. Anyone know?
Sorry for going on for so long! This is something that got to me and wonder what you guys think. My mind just kept going and going! lol Sometimes I wonder if my mind is just running away with things and there is really no connections.
New World Order & Global Mind Control is some crazy and scary stuff! I woke up about the NWO when 9-11 hit. Every day I wake up even more! Somethings that you never thought of hit you like a ton of bricks!!
Ok like i said Smooth Criminal came on the radio yesterday and somthing hit me and hit me in a very weird way! The name Annie kept sending a wired vibe in a way I can't explain! So, when I was able to get online I tried to find out if the song may have eluded to a true crime. ( I am some what into true crimes, mobsters and all that.) well, the name Annie made me think of the killer Richard Speck. <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Speck<!-- m --> But, the killings were on a wednesday and Mary Ann Jordan did die. Nothing came out of that but it did lead me another way and made me come to the point of where I am now.
The wheels in my head started to turn and turn one thing lead to another. It shock me!
New World Order & Global Mind Control. I hope that I don't get bashed for the people I name and how I interpret what I researched.
The way I see it at this point is that these people in some way are part of or victims of NWO and Mind Control. Going to start with Sharon Tate. She was the wife of Roman Polanski. She was a Murder victim of the manson family. <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Tate<!-- m --> Ok, now if you take time to read up.
from wiki: An edited version of The Fearless Vampire Killers was released, and Polanski expressed disgust at Ransohoff for "butchering" his film. Newsweek called it "a witless travesty", and it was not profitable. Tate's performance was largely ignored in reviews, and when she was mentioned, it was usually in relation to her nude scenes. Eye of the Devil was released shortly after, and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer attempted to build interest in Tate with its press release describing her as "one of the screen's most exciting new personalities". The film failed to find an audience, and most reviews were indifferent, neither praising nor condemning it. The New York Times wrote that one of the few highlights was Tate's "chillingly beautiful but expressionless performance".[1]
While Tate reportedly wanted a traditional marriage, Polanski remained somewhat promiscuous and described Tate's attitude to his infidelity as "Sharon's big hang-up". He reminded Tate that she had promised that she would not try to change him.[1] Tate accepted Polanski's conditions, though she confided to friends that she hoped he would change. Peter Evans quoted Tate as saying, "We have a good arrangement. Roman lies to me and I pretend to believe him."[1
She returned from London to Los Angeles, on July 20, 1969, traveling alone on the RMS Queen Elizabeth. Polanski was due to return on August 12 in time for the birth, and he asked Frykowski and Folger to stay in the house with Tate until then.
On August 8, 1969, Tate was two weeks from giving birth. She entertained two friends, actresses Joanna Pettet and Barbara Lewis, for lunch at her home, confiding in them her disappointment at Polanski's delay in returning from London. In the afternoon Polanski phoned her. Her younger sister Debra also called to ask if she and their sister Patti could spend the night with her, but Sharon declined. In the evening she went to her favorite restaurant, El Coyote, with Sebring, Frykowski and Folger, returning about 10:30 p.m.[1]
During the night they were murdered by members of Charles Manson's "Family" and their bodies discovered the following morning by Tate's housekeeper, Winifred Chapman. Police arrived at the scene to find the body of a young man, later identified as Steven Parent, shot to death in his car, which was in the driveway. Inside the house, the bodies of Tate and Sebring were found in the living room; a long rope tied around each of their necks connected them. On the front lawn lay the bodies of Frykowski and Folger. All of the victims, except Parent, had been stabbed numerous times. The coroner's report for Tate noted that she had been stabbed sixteen times, and that "five of the wounds were in and of themselves fatal".[17]
Police took the only survivor at the address, the caretaker William Garretson, for questioning. Garretson lived in the guest house which was located on the property, but a short distance from the house, and not immediately visible. As the first suspect, he was questioned and submitted to a polygraph test. He said that Parent had visited him at approximately 11:30 p.m. and left after a few minutes. Garretson said he had no involvement in the murders and did not know anything that could help the investigation. Police accepted his explanation and he was allowed to leave.
Polanski had been informed of the murders and returned to Los Angeles where police, unable to determine a motive, questioned him about his wife and friends. The funerals for the five victims were held on Wednesday, August 13. Sharon Tate was interred in the Holy Cross Cemetery, Culver City, California, with her son, Paul Richard Polanski (named posthumously for Polanski's and Tate's fathers), in her arms. The funerals of Tate and Sebring were separated by several hours to allow mourners to attend both.
Life magazine devoted a lengthy article to the murders and featured photographs of the crime scenes. Polanski was interviewed for the article and allowed himself to be photographed in the living room where Tate and Sebring had died, Tate's dried blood clearly visible on the floor in front of him. Widely criticized for his actions, he argued that he wanted to know who was responsible and was willing to shock the magazine's readers in the hope that someone would come forward with information.[5]
Curiosity about the victims led to the re-release of Tate's films, achieving greater popularity than they had in their initial runs. Some newspapers began to speculate on the motives for the murders. Some of the published photographs of Tate were allegedly taken at a Satanic ritual, but were later proven to have been production photographs from Eye of the Devil. Friends spoke out against the portrayal of Tate by some elements of the media. Mia Farrow said she was as "sweet and pure a human being as I have ever known", while Patty Duke remembered her as "a gentle, gentle creature. I was crazy about her, and I don't know anyone who wasn't". Polanski berated a crowd of journalists at a press conference, saying that many times they had written that Tate "was beautiful. Maybe the most beautiful woman in the world. But did you ever write how good she was?".[1] Peter Evans later quoted the actor Laurence Harvey, who commented on Polanski immediately after the murders, "This could destroy Roman. Marriage vows mean nothing to him but few men have adored a woman as much as he adored Sharon."[11]
Polanski later admitted that in the months following the murders he suspected various friends and associates, and his paranoia subsided only when the killers were arrested. Newspapers claimed that many Hollywood stars were moving out of the city, while others were reported to have installed security systems in their homes. Writer Dominick Dunne later recalled the tension:
“ The shock waves that went through the town were beyond anything I had ever seen before. People were convinced that the rich and famous of the community were in peril. Children were sent out of town. Guards were hired. Steve McQueen packed a gun when he went to Jay Sebring's funeral.[18]
Ok before I go on.. "Curiosity about the victims led to the re-release of Tate's films, achieving greater popularity than they had in their initial runs. Some newspapers began to speculate on the motives for the murders." Does that kinda make you think...lol
want to add one more thing.. I can't find the link to this. I wish I booked marked it. On one site It talked about how Polanski tried to have sex with a female on the way to Tate's funeral.
Ok, on to Charles Manson.. This kinda makes me think... Could Manson be telling the truth? Every since I was little I was told or watched something saying that he was this or he did this. Could this be in a way Mind Control?
I came across some videos and made me think even more! <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk54b_DSOi8&NR=1<!-- m -->
<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIfGj_55 ... re=related<!-- m -->
Could he of been an escape goat? Hope you see where i am going with this...lol
Ok, on to the Zodiac Killer <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac_Killer<!-- m -->
He use the media to strike fear and exploit his crimes.. He was never caught! Makes you think huh? lol
There is a few more people that I can go on about but really don't want to make this post too long.. lol
In the end the song lead me to something I never thought it would!
Anyone know how MJ came up with Smooth Criminal? When I tried to wiki it. Wiki wouldn't load when I first tried to find out and still will not load. *sigh*
Also anyone know if MJ worked with roman polanski at any time? I thought at one time I heard that Polanski was his favorite director. Anyone know?
Sorry for going on for so long! This is something that got to me and wonder what you guys think. My mind just kept going and going! lol Sometimes I wonder if my mind is just running away with things and there is really no connections.
New World Order & Global Mind Control is some crazy and scary stuff! I woke up about the NWO when 9-11 hit. Every day I wake up even more! Somethings that you never thought of hit you like a ton of bricks!!