TIAI July 25
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I'm pretty sure this is connected to the ElvisandMJ.com media rally in some way.....
"after an MJ fan group informed employees that an influx of flowers would be headed their way "
= MJDHI (based in the Netherlands <!-- s-->
"the MJ fan group is gonna have to foot the bill for the garden -- and the size of the garden will be determined by how much cash they raise"
= the outcome will depend on how much media awareness they raise
Also, has anyone clicked on the phrase 'how much cash they raise' which is marked in blue. I did and I am
getting a new page with just the words 'Fatal Failure'! Is that another clue or just a web error???
I could be way off here but just thought I would share it with you!
I get the fatal error as well, it's linked to a paypayl page <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Maybe because we don't have the media's attention yet? Let's see if that will change into a picture of some tulips if someone reports about it <!-- s
Well Harve dear, you got the tweet as well... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Ha, I hadn't noticed it was a paypal page! Somebody posted a comment below the TMZ article "Well TMZ, if you want fans to donate, fix the PayPal link!!!" I really don't think that the link is for donating cash! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Who is the supposed MJ fan group anyway?
Btw, does this mean you and Mo are the Tulips from Amsterdam? <!-- s
My head's hurting.........
I agree - I don't think it's intended to actual donation. But, if they do fix the link I'd be open to giving just to call their bluff and see what happens. I was getting kind of worried about TMZ's lack of information recently. I'm glad they are back on it.
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i still remember the hidden message in TMZ's post about Conrad Murray's twitter! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
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Also, (to Mo) on my computer, it says you posted this at 3:33 am. <!-- s
Can't wait to see how spectacular this 'garden' is going to be.....keep emailing!!
In my opinion it is so obvious this was NOT because of the emails and you seem to be falling into TS's trap..
I guess he was right, he was "running out of ideas" RIGHT BEFORE the update #6..so he had to come up with something, which is this ElvisandMJ thing
Can you please start focusing on Michael again..?
To TS:
I don't know if you took notice of it but you are starting to lose credibility (and I'm not talking only from my point of view) ;S
I know I will get criticized because of this, but I can't help it, these are my thoughts RIGHT NOW about TS. I’m sorry ;S
Don't you think is a bit cryptic?
I don't trust TMZ and I don't think they are in the hoax. They're just a bunch of opportunistic and filthy sensationalists, just like any other tabloid
can you put your finger on something specific that makes you doubt so much. i am not saying i think you are wrong. as a matter of fact i am probably closer to you in this.
First you said: Now it's: I'm sorry Hazzely, but I still have not seen any comment of you with a well argumented answer regarding TMZ, I only see your thoughts and assumptions appearing time after time.
They're just like any other tabloid. They are taking advantage of us and of the fact we follow them because we think they're in the hoax..everything they are going to say most of you will see it as "clue" or whatever you want to call that like it happened with that propofol story from the other day and the nazi one from today (among others) even though their purposes seem so evil to me.
And If you want to see everything I say as an "assumption" then do so, I'm using my common sense and giving my opinion (just like anyone else here) and I don't see why you keep picking on me everytime I say something. I guess it has to be because I didn't like the idea of taking ElvisandMj to the media and didn't shut up.
I'm here for Michael not to fight with anyone..I just voiced my opinion and you jumped at me.
Time will say it all I guess
I hope this won't turn into a "mo arguing with hazzely" thread because if so I will just stay away from it since I'm not looking for any drama.
If TMZ is not part of the hoax, I'm not sure what well-argumented answer could be made. How do you prove that all the stuff they throw on their site about MJ is just because they think it "sells" and doesn't contain hidden clues? I guess the question could be asked the other way around: Is EVERY article TMZ posts about MJ connected to the hoax and filled with hidden messages? If not, then I think both sides have a credible argument.
Truth is, nobody knows either way - and won't - until all of this plays out.
i also hope tomorrow we get positive responses from the people we've sent to. sometimes people don't check their mail on the weekends, to set apart "working life" from "real life."
I think you would be amazed just how many support your thoughts but are keeping quiet. I for one came here as well because of Michael and never expected it to turn into an elvis/mike forum.
People are grasping here and seem to be listening to ones that we as a whole have absolutly no idea who they are. As far as Im concerned it could be the very ones that are in charge of this forum. And I say "could be" not that they are. However, why go to the media? Is it for money, just as everyone else is gaining from this Mike hoax or is it out of a genuine love for Mike? Honestly, by going to the media it is merely "smoking" him out. I believe he is alive and I also believe Mike will return when he's damn go and ready.
As far as Elvis, it's not my concern that he is alive and if this Eliza wants to prove that, so be it, thats her fight. Suppose Elvis doesnt want to come out just as Mike doesnt? I say let them be and lets keep our noses out of others business.
I also find that when things around here get seemingly quite, things like this rediculous BS arise. Look at Pearl Jr's latest video. You can not tell me that she is doing that for Mike. Its very obvious that she wants us to see the video and in return she is advertising that ebook shes got. NO thanks, not for me anyway.
I think we all have gotten off the track of Mikes messages all together. We most focus on the message rather than looking at everything and turning it into a conspiracy. Sit back and come to OUR OWN THOUGHTS and OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS without arguments.
After saying all this, I hope people on this forum re-think things and WHY Mo and Souza want so badly to take this to the media.
I am also prepared to get my ass banned but consider it my token of respect to Mike. In the beginning this forum captured my attention but has become a complete waste of time.
Peace and Love always!!
I understand that those who keep on critizing TS continuously will not change their minds now. There are enough evidences showing that he is legit, that he has inside information, maybe you should re-read his posts. I really don't know what could convince you at this point. If you believe in the return then you should understand that the medias will be part of the game sooner or later and better sooner with us leading the way.
God bless you all.
I share your well said words here sarahli <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I think it is vital that the world is made aware of the hoax before he is safe to return. His message is the most important part of this and if he returned before everyone had had their eyes opened, it would completely defeat the object of this whole project. Everyones focus would be on Michael before his message and I think he would have to face a lot of aggression and worse. We started this journey with an investigation into Michaels death primarily and if my memory serves me correctly,in the original MJHD we were not even allowed to discuss NWO or anything of that nature, so the full extent of his message was prevented until this forum opened. This feels very deliberate. It seems to go in this order, we have discovered the evidence that he did fake his death, then we discovered the many reasons why, at this point we are all pretty well informed and feel ready for the Bam. I feel it is the same for the world, first they see the hoax (the lie), then they see the reasons (the truth behind a multitude of lies), at this point the world is not only ready for the Bam, but all wanting it and needing it. I know that there would still be those who cannot believe, but I believe that if enough do see it, then the rest will follow the growing herd. This is about waking up the world first and Michaels Bam will be the icing on the cake <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
This is just my personal opinion and I respect all others, but this way Michael will be welcomed back with love, joy, unity and major respect. He has always loved us more because he has always known the truth, which is one that the world is on the verge of seeing.
Sarahli,
I'm in your corner with this thinking. I always thought that if I were Michael I would be more comfortable returning to an informed public. Maybe the surprise element he is aiming for is more for the "when", not the actual fact that there will be a BAM. He may want the world to experience that anticipation of knowing he will return but at a totally unexpected time.
Another thing to keep in mind is, if this is supposed to be an ARG, it seems to be running true to form. TMZ could be one of the designers, scattering pieces of the story across the media, and we players influence it by our actions and reactions.
I haven't forgotten your post about Michael readjusting things when necessary and getting the temperature of hoax believers' work. IMO we do have a role to play and I think some of us will get the golden ticket and some of us won't. I just don't want anyone to miss the boat. L.O.V.E. to everyone.
The way I see it, the media isn't going to be nice to him coming from nowhere OR if "the way is paved." The media is self-serving, not altruistic. The media has always bashed MJ. I do not honestly, for one second, believe that any trending tweets or possible rulings regarding Elvis are going to make one bit of difference in that. To most of the world, the man is dead and they're STILL bashing and writing lies about him. So here's a sincere question: To those who feel "we have to pave the way," why do you believe the media will have a change of heart now?
Honestly, I think it would take something monumental and undeniable to shake the media up - and only Michael himself is capable of doing that. And I'll bet you anything that even when it's shoved in their face, they'll still bash him and twist things because of their embarrassment (How dare he!). More people will open their eyes and see the truth, but plenty will feel as duped and bitter as the media - and continue to bash MJ. More power to those who feel differently - I hope you're right; I really do.
sitting here by myself reading this post as soon as i read it the words flew out of my mouth oh god somebody finally said it !
And by the way, does MJ really want the media to know about Elvis and MJ.com?
Have you all forgotten that MJ is the King of pop?? He has connection to the media. He is a partner of Prince Alwaleed who ownes so many companies including the media. If he wants he can just pick up the phone and call him. And the next day everything will be on Times newspaper. He doesn't need us to do that at all. What he really wants is to let the people know the truth and why he faked his death. And Elvis?????
Let him rest in peace. I don't know who exactly will profit by bringing his name to the hoax. Things are getting very suspicious now. I wish Jermaine could say his opinion about all that!!!
But what do you make about all the similarities between Elvis and Michael's death ? Doesn't it looks like Michael inspired himself from what Elvis has done ?
We really are not here to say who is the best and I'm not a fan of Elvis. So I have no particular "gain" in this. Michael can do it yes of course he just has to pick up the phone but it wouldn't make any sense if he does it himself. We have to do it. The medias must know that we exist and that we are on Michael's side. Michael must know that we are here for him.
I'm really tired of innuendos, if you have any proof of what you are saying just share it with us, if you don't, please show some respect not only for the admins but also for the members on this forum, we are not sheeps, we are not brainwashed and we are not stupid.
Unfortunatly criticise and invent ridiculous stories about secret agendas is free, now you may think i'm fooled if so i will be pleased if you show me the evidences, but probably you have none. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
They have already explained what are their reasons to do this and you may be agree or not but they are free to do what they want, and i say "they" because i'm not joining this project but I respect people's freedom.
God bless you