POLL: Is faking death the equivalent of suicide?

Love_Love

I apologize if this is the wrong area to post this question lol. But when you think about, he technically killed himself off the face of the earth, right? So has he just committed a fake suicide?

angelic2310

No, in that case he would get back his life away from the tabloid sh... <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: -->
That´s my opinion

mjfull

No, in that case he would get back his life away from the tabloid sh... <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: -->
That´s my opinion

I agree!!!

mjsgirl89

No, in that case he would get back his life away from the tabloid sh... <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: -->
That´s my opinion

I agree!!!

same here...agreed!!

sanmike

Of course not! By faking your death you don't take your own life. It is just a retiring from the public eye and changing the identity - becoming another person by name.
When somebody is committing suicide, that person is making the final step of his life, without the possibility of come back.

awesome1

Well it could be a Suicide as such in terms of his career..... he wanted out/ or to hide from someone so he killed Michael the "entertainer", if you get what i mean..

loma

I think "pseudocide" is a better word for it.

elocin_mj

I think "pseudocide" is a better word for it.

PSEUDOCIDE
meaning a false death...

Its her

I apologize if this is the wrong area to post this question lol. But when you think about, he technically killed himself off the face of the earth, right? So has he just committed a fake suicide?

Um...no. When we put it in perspective, and we realize he faked his LIFE, and there THEN follows a DEATH, it NECESSARILY is also faked , because it is not possible to kill a "Fictional Entity", or, what amounts to, a non-breathing legal creation of a being for contractual purposes.

Neither can any such non-breathing "creation" kill off him or herSELF...

He/she/"it" (as in "THIS IS IT" <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> ) <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> can only be inactivated by its creator(in THIS case, Mikey BadBoy Jackson, who created the GREATEST ENTERTAINER WHO EVER LIVED, including all kind of fictional DETAILS about him, to MAKE him BeLIEvable, and, naming "it" after himself.)

I think MJ intended to de-activate his creation at this time, but, it is NOT permanent--- he can't stand leaving the audience hanging for EVER in the middle of his Magic Trick, because if he does, not only will he not get his DUE applause, but NO one will even get it that it WAS only a clever TRICK, before the crowd dissipates.... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

There is NO death. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> NO suicide. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> Just lots of opportunity to cry real tears, over a fake being and his fake sad story about drug overdose... and a REAL madman plotting further, behind the curtain. Everyone KNOWS, don't they, that MJ doesn't do drugs? Drugs are dangerous and foolhardy.

Does anyone think MJ is a fool <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->

I didn't think so <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> He has gone and made this whole story UP. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->

<!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> The being you "know" <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> as Michael Jackson is the hoax; a Tall Tale for our entertainment. Hoaxing a hoax is a double negative...er...uh...a positive.
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applehead250609

Hello people!!!
Wow what an intresting subject. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

This is the BEGINING of MOONWALKER BOOK:
"I've always wanted to be able to tell stories, you know, stories that came from my soul. I'd like to sit by a fire and tell people stories - make them see pictures, make them cry and laugh, take them anywhere emotionally with something as deceptively simple as words. I'd like to tell tales to move their souls and transform them. I've always wanted to be able to do that. Imagine how the great writers must feel, knowing they have that power. I sometimes feel I could do it. It's something I'd like to develop. In a way, songwriting uses the same skills, creates the emotional highs and lows, but the story is a sketch. It's quicksilver. There are very few books written on the art of storytelling, how to grip listeners, how to get a group of people together and amuse them. No costumes, no makeup, no nothing, just you and your voice, and your powerful ability to take them anywhere, to transform their lives, if only for minutes."

Again we read about BOOKS.For sure Michael is an avid reader of the BOOKS,lol.He is "the BOOK keeper" and the teller of this great adventure for sure.
If I look back now,I realise this was just a story,maybe a love story with the world.Maybe it was just a fiction just like ITS HER said and what we saw it was the opposite of Michael.But why a man would like to show us this,the opposite of who he is in real life? Always contradictions of what we see and hear.When I look at Michael Jackson I see a candid person with a BIG HEART,but who am I to know the whole story,lol?
In his final days we"learned" about Michael that he died from drugs,lol.This is the usually way the celebrities and famous people die ,because of their life style.As we "konw" Michael had some problems with pain medications,but that's all.Here is what Michael said about drugs in his Moonwalker book agian ,in chapter three:

"The media write weird stuff about me all the time. The distortion of the truth bothers me. I usually don't read a lot of what is printed, although I often hear about it.
I don't understand why they feel the need to make up things about me. I suppose if there's nothing scandalous to report, it's necessary to make things interesting. I take some small pride in thinking that I've come out pretty well, all things considered. A lot of children in the entertainment business ended up doing drugs and destroying themselves: Frankie Lymon, Bobbie Driscoll, any of a number of child stars. And I can understand their turning to drugs, considering the enormous stresses put upon them at a young age. It's a difficult life. Very few manage to maintain any semblance of a normal childhood.

I myself have never tried drugs - no marijuana, no cocaine, nothing. I mean, I haven't even tried these things.

Forget it.
This isn't to say we were never tempted. We were musicians doing business during an era when drug use was common. I don't mean to be judgmental - it's not even a moral issue for me - but I've seen drugs destroy too many lives to think they're anything to fool with. I'm certainly no angel, and I may have my own bad habits, but drugs aren't among them."

SO WHY HE WANTS PEOPLE TO THINK THE OPPOSITE ABOUT HIM? THIS IS A HARD QUESTION TO ASK.
Or maybe this is what "we want to see" because of a too long brainwashing....
Just listen to what Ron Magill talks about Michael, when he was at Metrozoo in 2005.
http://www.thenewsroom.com/details/3734163

LOVE YOU ALL,BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TOGHETER!

Its her

Hello people!!!
Wow what an intresting subject. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

This is the BEGINING of MOONWALKER BOOK:
"I've always wanted to be able to tell stories, you know, stories that came from my soul. I'd like to sit by a fire and tell people stories - make them see pictures, make them cry and laugh, take them anywhere emotionally with something as deceptively simple as words. I'd like to tell tales to move their souls and transform them. I've always wanted to be able to do that. Imagine how the great writers must feel, knowing they have that power. I sometimes feel I could do it. It's something I'd like to develop. In a way, songwriting uses the same skills, creates the emotional highs and lows, but the story is a sketch. It's quicksilver. There are very few books written on the art of storytelling, how to grip listeners, how to get a group of people together and amuse them. No costumes, no makeup, no nothing, just you and your voice, and your powerful ability to take them anywhere, to transform their lives, if only for minutes."

Again we read about BOOKS.For sure Michael is an avid reader of the BOOKS,lol.He is "the BOOK keeper" and the teller of this great adventure for sure.
If I look back now,I realise this was just a story,maybe a love story with the world.Maybe it was just a fiction just like ITS HER said and what we saw it was the opposite of Michael.But why a man would like to show us this,the opposite of who he is in real life? Always contradictions of what we see and hear.When I look at Michael Jackson I see a candid person with a BIG HEART,but who am I to know the whole story,lol?
In his final days we"learned" about Michael that he died from drugs,lol.This is the usually way the celebrities and famous people die ,because of their life style.As we "konw" Michael had some problems with pain medications,but that's all.Here is what Michael said about drugs in his Moonwalker book agian ,in chapter three:

"The media write weird stuff about me all the time. The distortion of the truth bothers me. I usually don't read a lot of what is printed, although I often hear about it.
I don't understand why they feel the need to make up things about me. I suppose if there's nothing scandalous to report, it's necessary to make things interesting. I take some small pride in thinking that I've come out pretty well, all things considered. A lot of children in the entertainment business ended up doing drugs and destroying themselves: Frankie Lymon, Bobbie Driscoll, any of a number of child stars. And I can understand their turning to drugs, considering the enormous stresses put upon them at a young age. It's a difficult life. Very few manage to maintain any semblance of a normal childhood.

I myself have never tried drugs - no marijuana, no cocaine, nothing. I mean, I haven't even tried these things.

Forget it.
This isn't to say we were never tempted. We were musicians doing business during an era when drug use was common. I don't mean to be judgmental - it's not even a moral issue for me - but I've seen drugs destroy too many lives to think they're anything to fool with. I'm certainly no angel, and I may have my own bad habits, but drugs aren't among them."

SO WHY HE WANTS PEOPLE TO THINK THE OPPOSITE ABOUT HIM? THIS IS A HARD QUESTION TO ASK.
Or maybe this is what "we want to see" because of a too long brainwashing....Just listen to what Ron Magill talks about Michael, when he was at Metrozoo in 2005.
http://www.thenewsroom.com/details/3734163

LOVE YOU ALL,BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TOGHETER!

It's not that he wants us (or anyone) to think bad about HIM. This is just one of many stories in the world. ALL people have some story to relate, as it happened in their life. Some people like to make things up. They are called storyTELLERS, or AUTHORS, which simply means that the story THEY are telling is MAKE BELIEVE. We probably haven't heard enough of MJ's REAL story---because it is NOT for human consumption. Let him have the same privacy to a personal life that we would want and believe we have a right to, ourselves. There are SOME fans who will get their tails in a knot, at finding out

IT

was ALL mostly an ILLUSION. He HAD to create fiction about the Greatest Entertainer Who Ever Lived, in order to DISTANCE all that MADNESS from himself. No one can be "ON" 24/7/365.25. It would break Superman, himself. If you look closely, at first, he just started to change some things---making Michael Jackson, Superstar, look larger than life, with all his massive undertakings, and unusual life. Then he began to change the very APPEARANCE of the Superstar, into someone SO different, the real actual MJ could walk amongst the regular herd, UNdetected. It is ingenius. A true Invisible Man---JUST LIKE HE ENDED UP IN THE MUSIC VIDEO,

BILLIE JEAN.

The music is real, the lyrics are his, as it states, on record where they are. The wit and whimsy are his. The contributions to charities aren't faked. The love isn't make believe.
Just as you quoted him from his own book, he did all of this to bless our sox off, and move us to great passion, higher thought, greater tears than ANY other fictional tearjerker, and, when he blows the lid off it all---the greatest surprise <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> and laughter, <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> AND RELIEF <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> EVER <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> Of course the message is central, too. Love is all that matters. It was all for love, as best as someone raised in some of his earliest environments (which would warp any one into a cynic abou women), could attempt.

One thing MJ can't have known, because he IS a man, who has seen all kind of manipulation by women, which he hates and guards himself against religiously, is that mostly, women don't like "hit and runs"---being amorously titillated and then left free to "hit" something else, or "hit" another day---like some regular male animals believe they enjoy. Most gals find it humiliating to be teased with fools gold and abandoned. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> He's put us all into one box and is "giving us the business" (SHOW business <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ).

I am CERTAIN someone (probably Mom )told him about this ("Don't Go Around Breakin Young Girls' Hearts <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ), and just as certain that he said "Pshaw! Bolshevik! IMPOSSIBLE!" because he went ahead and toyed with hearts anyway, MAKING gals fall madly in love with a paper Doll which could never actually belong to anyone...

As ENTERTAINMENT value, it is pure fun: kind of like an interactive romantic adventure---but somehow, if he slipped, (backstage,) into a tender heart who wasn't AWARE that this is a sport, he will be the one surprised by his own hoax, like the song says, "THIS TIME I'VE HURT HER MORE THAN SHE LOVES ME"

I'm not as sure as I was, that he knows the bible inside and out, either. He picked and chose what to model his life after (and, in THAT, he is JUST LIKE everyone else) and ignored some things the Spirit of God, {the (holy) Ghostwriter, behind the Book <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> } warned us about. Remember the passage about the eagles plucking your eyes out, if you are found rolling your eyes at the advisement of your mom or dad's warnings? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Maybe THAT's why he began wearing those sunglasses... <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->

Just sayin. This IS a SHOW. It is ALL "Make Believe". He sort of TOLD us the guy couldn't be real, when he allowed himself to be photographed in that hyperbaric chamber. Those things are SO dangerous, they are only carefully used in extreme emergencies, where there is nothing else to try. They may save your life, but one can go blind in one of those after only minutes of treatment. He thought your parents would have told you THAT story was crap...He was giving too much credit to the average sheep to know that. My mom told me ALL public announcments about celebrities is crap; everything in the magazines, too. Of course I didn't believe her---what did she know---she was only 2 decades on earth longer than me---everyone knows parents don't know jack... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->

So, don't be mad at Mikey for teasing you, faking his death [and finding out he faked more than THAT <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ] , if any of you have a real hard time being a good sport about it...

Bottom line, it was fun, wasn't IT? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> He had to do this---if billions of people didn't get it that Michael Jackson was TOO good to be true, <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> he knew our eyes were closed to other things around us... Are your eyes open now? <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->

Harleyblonde

Quite simple to me- he is still alive, not physically dead so to me the answer is- NO!

applehead250609

WOW! THE ANSWER IS YESSSSSSSSS!
Let me tell you ITS HER that you are simply awesome!!!!!
Your post reminded me about another one of your post,from last month.When I had finished to read that post I was like <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> !!!!!!!!!! I dont know what you are doing "out" of this forum,but let me tell you that you are very talented using the WORDS. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

Here is the post I am talking about: MJ is such a genious: The hoax

by Its her » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:42 pm

MJ is a true genius, or a mad scientist, the likes of which, it is TRUE, we have NEVER seen in all of history, and I dare say will ever see as long as all of us live. It boggles the mind, how completely HUMBLE he appears to be---- 365/24/7---NO one EVER says he has "The Big Head" or massive ego, as one would expect with such a towering intellect over so many, and such massive fame and fortune.

Many many people become twisted or damaged by too-much-too-soon, and their handlers/mangers/advisors controlling them---but MJ resisted ALL such control--at first mentally, because a minor can only DO so much, and then, as a young adult, breaking free and controlling him SELF, being inner directed, I believe, ONLY by God.

I believe one of the MAJOR points of this entire charade (the HOAXED death, and subsequent "messages") IF WE GAIN NOTHING ELSE FROM THIS , is to return FREE- THINKING, and automatically, FREE-DOM ,(DOMINION over Self) to EVERY single person he is able to influence by this Adventure.

The NWO and Illuminati , and all other such evils have been public knowledge since and actually the reason, America was formed, at least. And maybe prior to that. The Internet just brought it instantly home, to your house, where anyone could learn about it, instead of just you trying to convince them from books you got from some Underground group.

I believe, take it or leave it, THINK and BE FREE, that most of the information and theories on this site, which have informed and entertained us, and compelled us to interact with one another, while waiting for HIS NEXT MOVE , are NOT the point of the HOAX; only exercises in THOUGHT, for our formerly Tell-A- Vision-aenesthetized minds.

Souza, has said it continually, HE IS TRYING TO WAKE US UP, AND MAKE US SEE.

I just don't believe he's trying to make us see things which he KNOWS "are WRITTEN" as Prophecy, and therefore, WILL come to pass, as some believe. God has plans for everything He created, even the ones who twisted all his beauty into something evil, and RUIN everything they touch. Some things will come to pass, in order to "separate the sheep from the goats", (sheep sleep, and goats: "But---??!" ) and DEAL with the evil trying to drive this ship into the ground with all of us, asleep, on it. Just sayin'. We have been warned---many times.

That said, what I am about to tell you, IF you can believe it, will make you SPEECHLESS, as it did me. You will appreciate him MORE and love him MORE than "more"--- (as if THAT is possible). I'm going to show you his magic, a trick, which you already sort of knew---that he's impregnated his music with his very heart, and GOT you to be obsessed with him--yeah, even though you were sort of, now, done with him as a love interest in the 90s, happily married, a Grandma or even gay! Yes, he IS doing this to us, and I'll tell you how I believe I know for a fact.

THINK. Everyone of us has wondered WHY this guy has gotten SUCH a stonghold on us, SINCE he "died". Yeah, we loved him before---but, THIS IS IT. It's too much. It's over the top. Yeah, he IS all that and more. That's why we simply shook our heads and accepted that our love just ran deeper than we realized (he being the household word he was all through some of our lives), and decided to just see where this takes us.

ONE place he is taking us, is the most loving, the most profitable thing, he could have imagined! Before he "retires" from the business he thinks he taken as far as he can go with it, he is letting two more generations of people, who weren't even born when the Adventure started and MISSED practically everything, actually TAKE PART in all of it, freshly---"THE MICHAEL JACKSON EXPERIENCE", including, falling madly in love with him, and wearing his T shirt to bed for sweet dreams---and NOT letting them simply listen to their mom's old scratched records and read the CRAP in publications slamming him...and, for the old-timers----this interactive "Ride" and SWEET time- trip....

He truly IS alive, and he truly IS the GREATEST ENTERTAINER WHO EVER LIVED.

But, he's even more than that. He's someone who has devoted his life to God's purposes (doing good and healing, as Jesus did), and he really IS doing more than entertaining, to provide temporary escape, and pull us up out of our problems (some, really tragic ones, and some just everyday irritations).

It is ALL for LOVE (which, incidentally, is a word which can be totally interchangeable with the word "God", in the Christian "New Testament" scriptures, just FYI, try not to resist me---I am harmless and I don't want to offend ANYone)

I believe that it is going to take a certain something specific to even get him to come back to us, as everyone knows--and someone recently coined the apropos phrase for me (THANKS, Girl--I laughed SO hard I cried--because it is tragically true): some folks will be SO offended and SO upset and angry at the arrogance of MJ DARING to deceive the world and hoax his death, that ANY public appearance (Official, or televised or otherwise PUBLIC comeback) will result in him being "Tarred and Feathered", if not outright lynched. (It's NOT funny, because it COULD happen. It is funny that WE KNOW how hair-triggered and egotistical people are, in that a GAME would offend them SO! NO, sense of humor; NO being a "sport".)

It is dangerous to come back, and anyway, he really doesn't have to, if things go REALLY sour and South on him, he can just abort and go on with the life he's had for years, now.

I really believe he is LETTING us decide how this thing ends!!! Omg---if you saw that "V" movie, "V" lets the gal who loves him, DECIDE whether to pull the lever or not, at the end.

There are SO many MJ-isms in that movie, I wish I had the time to strip it. One of you guys said a few things, here, but I wish some one would do more, and I'll add what I found, to yours!!!

I submit to you, that MJ was a boy who, shut in pretty much by his fame, exposed his mind to letting thousands of great classic movies from a more innocent WONDERFUL time, shape his future, and life. He wants to share this with us, and bring us back to that. I appreciate THIS more than anyone can know. It is priceless what we have lost...


When I was a child, my mother KEPT me out of school regularly for tea and sandwiches, and the Noon Movie. (TRY keeping your kid out of school for that, now! You know what? I GOT your N.W.O.... you, my fellow hoax investigators, invent any excuse you can to circumvent their Control! Remember, one does not have to tell the truth to one’s enemies .)

I’ve seen thousands of movies they never show on TV, because they are not P.C., or , perhaps are just too pregnant with the truth…that, and, have NO subliminal messages in them, and would ALL have to be purposely re-dubbed for their controlling pleasure...

On this thread, I am going to strip a movie probably no one ever heard of, that I only saw it once---decades ago, WAY before the internet was a spark in someone's mind, and as I didn't have the correct title, I could not watch it again until I found it on Amazon, this year. Omg. HOAX, for real? Yup.

Conspiracy? Oh, yeah,

he has a STAFF of conspirators, ALL for LOVE. Check this out!

This movie is about a Broadway showman, named Flynn, who meets a kid who has a dancing worm, in a shoebox, named Curly. He partners with this boy to save his theater from foreclosure.

This is how the guy, who is a GENIUS promoter, and IDEA man, talks:

“Man’s soul, struggling through the turmoil---- what does he NEED in times like these? ESCAPE! Escape through beauty.

I’ll give him (“Curly”) significance. Importance. Greatness.

By the time I get through telling the public what he MEANS, they’ll beLIEve anything I want them to beLIEve…

I’m a SHOWMAN. I know that in that box, I’ve got

The GREATEST SHOW OF ALL TIME!

I’ll build Curly up into a DANCING GOLDMINE!”

He calls a press conference, to which no one shows. No one wants to see his “Act”. (Remember when MJ invited Rolling Stone to a few minutes of his time, breaking, I think, THRILLER loose on the public, when they said “No, thanks”?)

One journalist gives him a chance and then the others follow the breaking news (TYPICAL!). They say:

“ A PHENOMENON HAS BEEN BORN—ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!”

“Jerry Flynn, A MAN OF GREAT IMAGINATION---HE SAW A FAIRY TALE COME TO LIFE!”

Someone says: “But, I have seen him DANCE!" (the worm stands upright—a little personal pride there, eh?!!) "Perhaps Curly is telling us that we all have something to look up to; STOP LOOKING AT THE GROUND. Despite grief and turmoil, there is still great beauty in the world. Look UP. Look UP. LOOK UP.” (movie was filmed in 1944—wartimes)

His business partner exclaims: “Our Curly (OUR Michael Jackson!!) not only DANCES, but he has a MESSAGE!”

But Flynn is in serious financial straits and fear compels him to sell Curly out from under the child who owns him, to DISNEY, who has been looking for a way to make a motion picture using live actors and ANIMATION—in 1944!

The papers are saying Flynn is a GENIUS, a 20th Century Aladdin (MAGICIAN!!).

The Disney rep sent to look at Curly, dickers on price with Flynn. Flynn says:

“ WHAT IS THE MARKET VALUE ON A FAIRY TALE?” (Oh, uh…BILLIONS, obviously)
The rep says Flynn’s price is too steep, “FANTASTIC”. Flynn counters with, “FANTASY is DISNEY’s BUSINESS.”

Meanwhile Curly is being called: “THE FRED ASTAIRE of the insect world” in the media.

Flynn meets the guardian/ older sister of the boy who owns Curly. This is a young woman who already has found fools gold everywhere,( ) , and is very disillusioned about dreams. She tells him, “Every fairy tale can’t have a happy ending”. But then, later, even SHE gets on board with the excitement, and exclaims:

“IT’S AMAZING, HOW THAT CATERPILLAR HAS CHANGED OUR LIVES!!”

Scientists from either the government or some University want to observe him, saying they cannot allow Flynn to perpetrate this HOAX on people. Worms can’t dance.

However, once they see that he indeed is a DANCING MACHINE, they want to CUT HIM INTO PIECES (Hmmm…sort of like the media, these days, eh?) Flynn says, “Heck, NO, Joe” and runs out with him.

They admit Curly is, “THE GREATEST THING KNOWN TO SCIENCE!” They exclaim:

“WHAT IS THIS COUNTRY COMING TO, WHEN A GUY FROM BROADWAY TELLS SCIENCE WHAT TO DO??!”
(Anyone Googled Michael Jackson and Science lately? Apparently, HE and his ideas have permeated the scientific world and are being taught for college credit all over the globe!! I saw a list…)

The scientists ask:

“IS A CIVILIZATION OF SELF-INTEREST, AND NON-SACRIFICE FIT TO SURVIVE????” (InDEED… )

The press, again: “CURLY HAS GOT THE WHOLE WORLD EXCITED!” (Say! I just “saw” this: Remember Michael’s beautiful CURLs in the eighties/nineties?????? I wonder if anyone EVER called HIM “Curly”? )

When Curly comes up MISSING, even the COPS, who are looking for him begin to sing HIS SONG---the one he DANCES to---“YES-SIR, THAT’S MY BABY”.

Even the tones on the telephone which happen before the TIME is announced by the “Time-lady’s voice”, are changed to belt out,

“At the tone, the time will be, “YS, TMB!”, 8 o’clock”. (HEY! I just realized that this is eerily like the musical hits we have as RINGTONES today!!!!! )

Flynn proves to be a selfish jerk and he and the boy have a falling out. But “THE COPS ARE IN ON IT” someone says, the conspiracy with the kids of the neighborhood to reconcile Flynn and the boy. Someone says: “KIDS HAVE THEIR OWN (WISER?) WAY OF HANDLING THINGS”

Flynn , beside himself with regret and guilt, waits for the kids to bring the boy, Curly’s owner, to him.

Suddenly Curly reappears.

Someone says: “Hey! CURLY DIDN’T RUN AWAY AFTER ALL! HE WAS IN THE PIANO, ALL THE TIME!”

Curly FLIES out, an ANIMATED BUTTERFLY! (!!), they exclaim,

“HE’S MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN EVER!”

“CURLY IS WITH US, AGAIN!”

Flynn says: “WE’VE GOT TO LET HIM GO—WE CAN’T KEEP HIM , ANYMORE”.

The kid says, “NO…” But someone—maybe the sister, IDK, says, “HE BELONGED TO US---NOW HE BELONGS TO THE WORLD” He knows WE’LL ALWAYS REMEMBER HIM.”

And…he flies out the window, and away, while everyone happily (HUH???????????????? ) waves and says, “GOODBYE, CURLY! THANKS FOR EVERYTHING!”

The name of this film is, “ONCE UPON A TIME…”. After everyone is gone, it ends with a card flipped up for us to read, which says: “ WHERE REALITY IS SO GRIM, FANTASY BECOMES A WELCOME RELIEF”.


Now, I didn’t make this sad $#!* up. And we KNOW there are NO SUCH THINGS AS COINCIDENCES, so…..?

I say MJ CREATED “MICHAEL JACKSON—The Act”, and we can tell which one is “the CREATION, the FICTION” , Because the character he created, has a COMPLETELY fictional life. Actually most of the things we thought we knew about MJ are ONLY true about his magnificent creation, “MICHAEL JACKSON”. How far he actually took this, I’m not sure---yet. All I know is:

No REAL HUMAN being would put up with NO personal life and such isolation for 45 years.

No REAL HUMAN man would put up with NO love life for most of his adult life.

NO REAL HUMAN loves everybody, judges NO body, 365/24/7 for 45 years.

No real human man, who meticulously spent ALL his time crafting a STELLAR career and absolutely UNIQUE LEGACY, would ruin his reputation and trash this legacy, throwing ALL his gifts down the toilet---ESPECIALLY before impressionable CHILDREN, by killing himself with drugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, this is something which puzzles me to THIS moment---how everyone from 10 to 60, on the internet, at least, seems to act like they think he’s still 25---they’re expecting a 25 year old to come back and dance for us for another fifty years, as if TIME HAS STOPPED!!!!!!!

Human being, child of God, MJ, hasn’t been 25 for decades. But MICHAEL JACKSON HAS! Time stopped for Michael Jackson, at least 25-30 years ago, as he began, with his collection of magicians, to make his REAL self disappear, and sow his very soul into all his music, and that peacock's dazzlingly, HYPNOTIC visual display (gawd )...Just like your books, of PETER PAN, or, Superman; your movies of Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck---he lives forEVER young.

REMEMBER, at his memorial, this 29 year old beauty, poised, as “presenting” what was inscribed next to his picture, words the congregation had to LOOK UP to see:


I AM ALIVE AND I AM HERE FOREVER

God’s word says, it is appointed unto humans once to die. He can’t lie. It is the truth. All living men die. Yet---MJ WASN'T lying, either!

MICHAEL JACKSON,
CREATION,
SCINTILLATING, BULLETPROOF,

IDEA

of the human MJ, has never taken a single breath, here.

As an IDEA, he is alive and will be here forever. Just as he said.


I’ve written a long time and need to stop for a while. But, I’m going to strip the 80s movie, “The Elephant Man” next time I post. Just a taste: This has puzzled me since he “died”.

WHY would THAT MAN, THE MOST BLESSED MAN IN HISTORY, KILL HIMSELF??

Oh,YES, he did. He did or he is thinking he will, as I write this.

Not only that, but he himself is ALL over that Spike Lee Tribute video , I don’t care WHO is being credited.

Have you seen that??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I haven’t been able to get past the fireplace scene without bawling. More power to you, if you can make it to the part where all that’s left of him is a glove and a fedora at the end. JEEEEEEEEEZ, MJ. Rip my heart out.

HE DID THAT.

HE memorialized his own “child”, the loveable son of his IMAGINATION, exactly as he envisioned, with all his customary Michael Jackson drama and flair. Make NO mistake.

He killed off Michael Jackson; putting him “to bed” to die, JUST LIKE the Elephant Man (in the 80s movie) OR, as I HOPE,

I hope with all my heart,

that he’s going to let US decide….

NONE of the people I’ve researched on the web has ever mentioned that he died JUST LIKE THE ELEPHANT MAN—ON PURPOSE, AFTER A ROUSING DAY AT THE THEATER. This was my second thought, as soon as the news mentioned the details, the sleeping drugs and being so happy at rehearsal all his last day!! But to this day, I've heard NO one say as much--connecting them. I know I’m right about this. Ever the poet, breathing theatrics, HE is planning THIS to be IT for Michael Jackson....

For now, I would just like to say, to MJ, the human one, who can actually hear me:

Please, let’s NOT do THIS –and just SAY we did---eh?

We SEE you, now, I think. I guarantee you, we will applaud like nobody’s business, just the same, for your cleverness, promotion and invention…

Please don’t do this. I don’t care if you let him EVER perform again---we have his "remains", anyway, for years of new albums… Just please, please don’t kill him off this way. Quoting another movie, FOR all OF US, here :

“I DON’T WANT YOU TO DIE!”
YOU are not the only one who gets to do LOVE, Dude.

Let us show you how WE (generations) will love that 99 (or 9900 more) year old Michael Jackson, for all time. Disney didn’t kill Mickey How many children would even enjoy Mickey Mouse or, Peter Pan, EVER, AT ALL, if they knew they had been MURDERED by their “Fathers”?????

Let me ask you: Do you REALLY love the DRAMA, the poetic IRONY, the REVENGE, upon a sweet guy, who never did anything to you but make you obscenely wealthy and loved more than ANY entertainer who EVER existed... MORE than you love me (Us)?

I know I sound controlling, but, you pulled my heartstrings SO hard, they almost came off, and I cried, when I wrote this! Dang! It’s not a good game if the main piece gets destroyed at the end.

Just sayin’.

But ...it's all good, I guess. I appreciate this RIDE distracting me, and helping me escape some personally tragic circumstances and memories, this last year. You done GOOD and HEALED, Baby. A big tip of the hat to ya. Yeah...

So this is what it's come to:

Yessir,THAT's my Baby---the OTHER Elephant Man. The one who once upon a time... owned an elephant and pulled off the greatest hoax EVER. Jackson...
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That video "by" Spike Lee really intrigued me as well. Maybe it was Michael who knows? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
Here it is a interview with Spike Lee where he speaks about Michael.He is very funny when he laughs,by the way,lol. <!-- s --><!-- s -->

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And one last thisg.I dont understand the point to "celebration" of Michael Jackson life made by Spike Lee and Al Sharpton last year.How you can celebrate a "dead" person I dont understand. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Love you all my friends!!!!

Its her

WOW! THE ANSWER IS YESSSSSSSSS!
Let me tell you ITS HER that you are simply awesome!!!!!
Your post reminded me about another one of your post,from last month.When I had finished to read that post I was like <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> !!!!!!!!!! I dont know what you are doing "out" of this forum,but let me tell you that you are very talented using the WORDS. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

Here is the post I am talking about: MJ is such a genious: The hoax

by Its her » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:42 pm

MJ is a true genius, or a mad scientist, the likes of which, it is TRUE, we have NEVER seen in all of history, and I dare say will ever see as long as all of us live. It boggles the mind, how completely HUMBLE he appears to be---- 365/24/7---NO one EVER says he has "The Big Head" or massive ego, as one would expect with such a towering intellect over so many, and such massive fame and fortune.

Many many people become twisted or damaged by too-much-too-soon, and their handlers/mangers/advisors controlling them---but MJ resisted ALL such control--at first mentally, because a minor can only DO so much, and then, as a young adult, breaking free and controlling him SELF, being inner directed, I believe, ONLY by God.

I believe one of the MAJOR points of this entire charade (the HOAXED death, and subsequent "messages") IF WE GAIN NOTHING ELSE FROM THIS , is to return FREE- THINKING, and automatically, FREE-DOM ,(DOMINION over Self) to EVERY single person he is able to influence by this Adventure.

The NWO and Illuminati , and all other such evils have been public knowledge since and actually the reason, America was formed, at least. And maybe prior to that. The Internet just brought it instantly home, to your house, where anyone could learn about it, instead of just you trying to convince them from books you got from some Underground group.

I believe, take it or leave it, THINK and BE FREE, that most of the information and theories on this site, which have informed and entertained us, and compelled us to interact with one another, while waiting for HIS NEXT MOVE , are NOT the point of the HOAX; only exercises in THOUGHT, for our formerly Tell-A- Vision-aenesthetized minds.

Souza, has said it continually, HE IS TRYING TO WAKE US UP, AND MAKE US SEE.

I just don't believe he's trying to make us see things which he KNOWS "are WRITTEN" as Prophecy, and therefore, WILL come to pass, as some believe. God has plans for everything He created, even the ones who twisted all his beauty into something evil, and RUIN everything they touch. Some things will come to pass, in order to "separate the sheep from the goats", (sheep sleep, and goats: "But---??!" ) and DEAL with the evil trying to drive this ship into the ground with all of us, asleep, on it. Just sayin'. We have been warned---many times.

That said, what I am about to tell you, IF you can believe it, will make you SPEECHLESS, as it did me. You will appreciate him MORE and love him MORE than "more"--- (as if THAT is possible). I'm going to show you his magic, a trick, which you already sort of knew---that he's impregnated his music with his very heart, and GOT you to be obsessed with him--yeah, even though you were sort of, now, done with him as a love interest in the 90s, happily married, a Grandma or even gay! Yes, he IS doing this to us, and I'll tell you how I believe I know for a fact.

THINK. Everyone of us has wondered WHY this guy has gotten SUCH a stonghold on us, SINCE he "died". Yeah, we loved him before---but, THIS IS IT. It's too much. It's over the top. Yeah, he IS all that and more. That's why we simply shook our heads and accepted that our love just ran deeper than we realized (he being the household word he was all through some of our lives), and decided to just see where this takes us.

ONE place he is taking us, is the most loving, the most profitable thing, he could have imagined! Before he "retires" from the business he thinks he taken as far as he can go with it, he is letting two more generations of people, who weren't even born when the Adventure started and MISSED practically everything, actually TAKE PART in all of it, freshly---"THE MICHAEL JACKSON EXPERIENCE", including, falling madly in love with him, and wearing his T shirt to bed for sweet dreams---and NOT letting them simply listen to their mom's old scratched records and read the CRAP in publications slamming him...and, for the old-timers----this interactive "Ride" and SWEET time- trip....

He truly IS alive, and he truly IS the GREATEST ENTERTAINER WHO EVER LIVED.

But, he's even more than that. He's someone who has devoted his life to God's purposes (doing good and healing, as Jesus did), and he really IS doing more than entertaining, to provide temporary escape, and pull us up out of our problems (some, really tragic ones, and some just everyday irritations).

It is ALL for LOVE (which, incidentally, is a word which can be totally interchangeable with the word "God", in the Christian "New Testament" scriptures, just FYI, try not to resist me---I am harmless and I don't want to offend ANYone)

I believe that it is going to take a certain something specific to even get him to come back to us, as everyone knows--and someone recently coined the apropos phrase for me (THANKS, Girl--I laughed SO hard I cried--because it is tragically true): some folks will be SO offended and SO upset and angry at the arrogance of MJ DARING to deceive the world and hoax his death, that ANY public appearance (Official, or televised or otherwise PUBLIC comeback) will result in him being "Tarred and Feathered", if not outright lynched. (It's NOT funny, because it COULD happen. It is funny that WE KNOW how hair-triggered and egotistical people are, in that a GAME would offend them SO! NO, sense of humor; NO being a "sport".)

It is dangerous to come back, and anyway, he really doesn't have to, if things go REALLY sour and South on him, he can just abort and go on with the life he's had for years, now.

I really believe he is LETTING us decide how this thing ends!!! Omg---if you saw that "V" movie, "V" lets the gal who loves him, DECIDE whether to pull the lever or not, at the end.

There are SO many MJ-isms in that movie, I wish I had the time to strip it. One of you guys said a few things, here, but I wish some one would do more, and I'll add what I found, to yours!!!

I submit to you, that MJ was a boy who, shut in pretty much by his fame, exposed his mind to letting thousands of great classic movies from a more innocent WONDERFUL time, shape his future, and life. He wants to share this with us, and bring us back to that. I appreciate THIS more than anyone can know. It is priceless what we have lost...


When I was a child, my mother KEPT me out of school regularly for tea and sandwiches, and the Noon Movie. (TRY keeping your kid out of school for that, now! You know what? I GOT your N.W.O.... you, my fellow hoax investigators, invent any excuse you can to circumvent their Control! Remember, one does not have to tell the truth to one’s enemies .)

I’ve seen thousands of movies they never show on TV, because they are not P.C., or , perhaps are just too pregnant with the truth…that, and, have NO subliminal messages in them, and would ALL have to be purposely re-dubbed for their controlling pleasure...

On this thread, I am going to strip a movie probably no one ever heard of, that I only saw it once---decades ago, WAY before the internet was a spark in someone's mind, and as I didn't have the correct title, I could not watch it again until I found it on Amazon, this year. Omg. HOAX, for real? Yup.

Conspiracy? Oh, yeah,

he has a STAFF of conspirators, ALL for LOVE. Check this out!

This movie is about a Broadway showman, named Flynn, who meets a kid who has a dancing worm, in a shoebox, named Curly. He partners with this boy to save his theater from foreclosure.

This is how the guy, who is a GENIUS promoter, and IDEA man, talks:

“Man’s soul, struggling through the turmoil---- what does he NEED in times like these? ESCAPE! Escape through beauty.

I’ll give him (“Curly”) significance. Importance. Greatness.

By the time I get through telling the public what he MEANS, they’ll beLIEve anything I want them to beLIEve…

I’m a SHOWMAN. I know that in that box, I’ve got

The GREATEST SHOW OF ALL TIME!

I’ll build Curly up into a DANCING GOLDMINE!”

He calls a press conference, to which no one shows. No one wants to see his “Act”. (Remember when MJ invited Rolling Stone to a few minutes of his time, breaking, I think, THRILLER loose on the public, when they said “No, thanks”?)

One journalist gives him a chance and then the others follow the breaking news (TYPICAL!). They say:

“ A PHENOMENON HAS BEEN BORN—ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!”

“Jerry Flynn, A MAN OF GREAT IMAGINATION---HE SAW A FAIRY TALE COME TO LIFE!”

Someone says: “But, I have seen him DANCE!" (the worm stands upright—a little personal pride there, eh?!!) "Perhaps Curly is telling us that we all have something to look up to; STOP LOOKING AT THE GROUND. Despite grief and turmoil, there is still great beauty in the world. Look UP. Look UP. LOOK UP.” (movie was filmed in 1944—wartimes)

His business partner exclaims: “Our Curly (OUR Michael Jackson!!) not only DANCES, but he has a MESSAGE!”

But Flynn is in serious financial straits and fear compels him to sell Curly out from under the child who owns him, to DISNEY, who has been looking for a way to make a motion picture using live actors and ANIMATION—in 1944!

The papers are saying Flynn is a GENIUS, a 20th Century Aladdin (MAGICIAN!!).

The Disney rep sent to look at Curly, dickers on price with Flynn. Flynn says:

“ WHAT IS THE MARKET VALUE ON A FAIRY TALE?” (Oh, uh…BILLIONS, obviously)
The rep says Flynn’s price is too steep, “FANTASTIC”. Flynn counters with, “FANTASY is DISNEY’s BUSINESS.”

Meanwhile Curly is being called: “THE FRED ASTAIRE of the insect world” in the media.

Flynn meets the guardian/ older sister of the boy who owns Curly. This is a young woman who already has found fools gold everywhere,( ) , and is very disillusioned about dreams. She tells him, “Every fairy tale can’t have a happy ending”. But then, later, even SHE gets on board with the excitement, and exclaims:

“IT’S AMAZING, HOW THAT CATERPILLAR HAS CHANGED OUR LIVES!!”

Scientists from either the government or some University want to observe him, saying they cannot allow Flynn to perpetrate this HOAX on people. Worms can’t dance.

However, once they see that he indeed is a DANCING MACHINE, they want to CUT HIM INTO PIECES (Hmmm…sort of like the media, these days, eh?) Flynn says, “Heck, NO, Joe” and runs out with him.

They admit Curly is, “THE GREATEST THING KNOWN TO SCIENCE!” They exclaim:

“WHAT IS THIS COUNTRY COMING TO, WHEN A GUY FROM BROADWAY TELLS SCIENCE WHAT TO DO??!”
(Anyone Googled Michael Jackson and Science lately? Apparently, HE and his ideas have permeated the scientific world and are being taught for college credit all over the globe!! I saw a list…)

The scientists ask:

“IS A CIVILIZATION OF SELF-INTEREST, AND NON-SACRIFICE FIT TO SURVIVE????” (InDEED… )

The press, again: “CURLY HAS GOT THE WHOLE WORLD EXCITED!” (Say! I just “saw” this: Remember Michael’s beautiful CURLs in the eighties/nineties?????? I wonder if anyone EVER called HIM “Curly”? )

When Curly comes up MISSING, even the COPS, who are looking for him begin to sing HIS SONG---the one he DANCES to---“YES-SIR, THAT’S MY BABY”.

Even the tones on the telephone which happen before the TIME is announced by the “Time-lady’s voice”, are changed to belt out,

“At the tone, the time will be, “YS, TMB!”, 8 o’clock”. (HEY! I just realized that this is eerily like the musical hits we have as RINGTONES today!!!!! )

Flynn proves to be a selfish jerk and he and the boy have a falling out. But “THE COPS ARE IN ON IT” someone says, the conspiracy with the kids of the neighborhood to reconcile Flynn and the boy. Someone says: “KIDS HAVE THEIR OWN (WISER?) WAY OF HANDLING THINGS”

Flynn , beside himself with regret and guilt, waits for the kids to bring the boy, Curly’s owner, to him.

Suddenly Curly reappears.

Someone says: “Hey! CURLY DIDN’T RUN AWAY AFTER ALL! HE WAS IN THE PIANO, ALL THE TIME!”

Curly FLIES out, an ANIMATED BUTTERFLY! (!!), they exclaim,

“HE’S MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN EVER!”

“CURLY IS WITH US, AGAIN!”

Flynn says: “WE’VE GOT TO LET HIM GO—WE CAN’T KEEP HIM , ANYMORE”.

The kid says, “NO…” But someone—maybe the sister, IDK, says, “HE BELONGED TO US---NOW HE BELONGS TO THE WORLD” He knows WE’LL ALWAYS REMEMBER HIM.”

And…he flies out the window, and away, while everyone happily (HUH???????????????? ) waves and says, “GOODBYE, CURLY! THANKS FOR EVERYTHING!”

The name of this film is, “ONCE UPON A TIME…”. After everyone is gone, it ends with a card flipped up for us to read, which says: “ WHERE REALITY IS SO GRIM, FANTASY BECOMES A WELCOME RELIEF”.


Now, I didn’t make this sad $#!* up. And we KNOW there are NO SUCH THINGS AS COINCIDENCES, so…..?

I say MJ CREATED “MICHAEL JACKSON—The Act”, and we can tell which one is “the CREATION, the FICTION” , Because the character he created, has a COMPLETELY fictional life. Actually most of the things we thought we knew about MJ are ONLY true about his magnificent creation, “MICHAEL JACKSON”. How far he actually took this, I’m not sure---yet. All I know is:

No REAL HUMAN being would put up with NO personal life and such isolation for 45 years.

No REAL HUMAN man would put up with NO love life for most of his adult life.

NO REAL HUMAN loves everybody, judges NO body, 365/24/7 for 45 years.

No real human man, who meticulously spent ALL his time crafting a STELLAR career and absolutely UNIQUE LEGACY, would ruin his reputation and trash this legacy, throwing ALL his gifts down the toilet---ESPECIALLY before impressionable CHILDREN, by killing himself with drugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, this is something which puzzles me to THIS moment---how everyone from 10 to 60, on the internet, at least, seems to act like they think he’s still 25---they’re expecting a 25 year old to come back and dance for us for another fifty years, as if TIME HAS STOPPED!!!!!!!

Human being, child of God, MJ, hasn’t been 25 for decades. But MICHAEL JACKSON HAS! Time stopped for Michael Jackson, at least 25-30 years ago, as he began, with his collection of magicians, to make his REAL self disappear, and sow his very soul into all his music, and that peacock's dazzlingly, HYPNOTIC visual display (gawd )...Just like your books, of PETER PAN, or, Superman; your movies of Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck---he lives forEVER young.

REMEMBER, at his memorial, this 29 year old beauty, poised, as “presenting” what was inscribed next to his picture, words the congregation had to LOOK UP to see:


I AM ALIVE AND I AM HERE FOREVER

God’s word says, it is appointed unto humans once to die. He can’t lie. It is the truth. All living men die. Yet---MJ WASN'T lying, either!

MICHAEL JACKSON,
CREATION,
SCINTILLATING, BULLETPROOF,

IDEA

of the human MJ, has never taken a single breath, here.

As an IDEA, he is alive and will be here forever. Just as he said.


I’ve written a long time and need to stop for a while. But, I’m going to strip the 80s movie, “The Elephant Man” next time I post. Just a taste: This has puzzled me since he “died”.

WHY would THAT MAN, THE MOST BLESSED MAN IN HISTORY, KILL HIMSELF??

Oh,YES, he did. He did or he is thinking he will, as I write this.

Not only that, but he himself is ALL over that Spike Lee Tribute video , I don’t care WHO is being credited.

Have you seen that??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I haven’t been able to get past the fireplace scene without bawling. More power to you, if you can make it to the part where all that’s left of him is a glove and a fedora at the end. JEEEEEEEEEZ, MJ. Rip my heart out.

HE DID THAT.

HE memorialized his own “child”, the loveable son of his IMAGINATION, exactly as he envisioned, with all his customary Michael Jackson drama and flair. Make NO mistake.

He killed off Michael Jackson; putting him “to bed” to die, JUST LIKE the Elephant Man (in the 80s movie) OR, as I HOPE,

I hope with all my heart,

that he’s going to let US decide….

NONE of the people I’ve researched on the web has ever mentioned that he died JUST LIKE THE ELEPHANT MAN—ON PURPOSE, AFTER A ROUSING DAY AT THE THEATER. This was my second thought, as soon as the news mentioned the details, the sleeping drugs and being so happy at rehearsal all his last day!! But to this day, I've heard NO one say as much--connecting them. I know I’m right about this. Ever the poet, breathing theatrics, HE is planning THIS to be IT for Michael Jackson....

For now, I would just like to say, to MJ, the human one, who can actually hear me:

Please, let’s NOT do THIS –and just SAY we did---eh?

We SEE you, now, I think. I guarantee you, we will applaud like nobody’s business, just the same, for your cleverness, promotion and invention…

Please don’t do this. I don’t care if you let him EVER perform again---we have his "remains", anyway, for years of new albums… Just please, please don’t kill him off this way. Quoting another movie, FOR all OF US, here :

“I DON’T WANT YOU TO DIE!”
YOU are not the only one who gets to do LOVE, Dude.

Let us show you how WE (generations) will love that 99 (or 9900 more) year old Michael Jackson, for all time. Disney didn’t kill Mickey How many children would even enjoy Mickey Mouse or, Peter Pan, EVER, AT ALL, if they knew they had been MURDERED by their “Fathers”?????

Let me ask you: Do you REALLY love the DRAMA, the poetic IRONY, the REVENGE, upon a sweet guy, who never did anything to you but make you obscenely wealthy and loved more than ANY entertainer who EVER existed... MORE than you love me (Us)?

I know I sound controlling, but, you pulled my heartstrings SO hard, they almost came off, and I cried, when I wrote this! Dang! It’s not a good game if the main piece gets destroyed at the end.

Just sayin’.

But ...it's all good, I guess. I appreciate this RIDE distracting me, and helping me escape some personally tragic circumstances and memories, this last year. You done GOOD and HEALED, Baby. A big tip of the hat to ya. Yeah...

So this is what it's come to:

Yessir,THAT's my Baby---the OTHER Elephant Man. The one who once upon a time... owned an elephant and pulled off the greatest hoax EVER. Jackson...
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That video "by" Spike Lee really intrigued me as well. Maybe it was Michael who knows? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
Here it is a interview with Spike Lee where he speaks about Michael.He is very funny when he laughs,by the way,lol. <!-- s --><!-- s -->

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And one last thing.I dont understand the point to "celebration" of Michael Jackson life made by Spike Lee and Al Sharpton last year.How you can celebrate a "dead" person I dont understand. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Love you all my friends!!!!

Thank you so much for the Spike Lee and Couric interview, <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> (and your kind enthusiasm <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> about my posts).

Spike Lee GETS Michael Jackson, as a true fan, but he also "sees" with the magic eye of a very sensitive artist, actual subtle details, how it really is---sociologically, psychologically, and historically. I didn't mean that MJ ONLY did the tribute video. I meant that Spike Lee has a style, which is evidenced in most of the video, and MJ has very definitely "stepped in" in a couple of very heart-piercing moments. Spike KNOWS Michael, personally. Artiste to artiste, it could be he was sort of <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> "channeling" MJ, there---SO, SO authentic was the ambience and essence of actual "Mikey" <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> I just FELT <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> the REAL deal in those certain shots. Tribute is one thing; LOVE always makes me cry.

Now, this is what I want to tell you about "celebrating" someone's life.

It is sometimes another way of eulogizing a deceased person--done instead of a tearjerking funeral, which --FACE IT, are all about YOUR LOSS, instead of the dead person's LOSS of a future...

Sometimes you see this kind of thing at a Christian's passing, because they believe the person just went on to "their reward", and they'll see them again, when THEY make that trip out...sometimes they call these "Homegoings", because someone coined a phrase once that, "this earth is not our home---we are only passing through".

But also, MOST commonly, these celebrations are to count one's blessing for that person's contributions to your life.

Yeah, mourn his passing (IF he died <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> ) but, celebrate the fact that HE, in all his joyful sparkle left a mark on your very soul which changed you FOR EVER---and IT didn't die when he did!!

<!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> He didn't take it with him!

We are NOT as <!-- s --><!-- s -->

<!-- s --><!-- s --> bereft <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> ... <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->

<!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> as the thought of his passing made us feel <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: -->

This is cause for GREAT JOY and exuberant jubilation <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->

Spike said it all! The party lasted three hours, dancing and celebrating to three hours of non-stop hits. If people could have, it could have been an all nighter--of non stop hits.

One can only express so much happiness at a time. After that, it would have been like deja vu--at a Michael Jackson concert event, where they'd need medic tents set up for the guests' exhaustion!!!!!!! <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->

I have never heard of ANY one entertainer who was MORE loved--all over the world, by strangers. I don't mean just the "fans" who think they are "in love" with him--I mean, people like the guy who did the nightly news on NBC (sorry, I don't wish to embarrass the guy, in light of this being a faked death <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> and all....so I won't print his name here), who had such a lump <!-- s --><!-- s --> in his throat while saying the words, "Michael Jackson...has...died", that I myself lost it ALL OVER AGAIN, feeling that love from him <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> No matter what happens, now, we all have to admit we were VERY blessed by Michael Jackson's extraordinary presence in our lives. And the gift goes on. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->