POLL: Is faking death the equivalent of suicide?
Love_Love
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I apologize if this is the wrong area to post this question lol. But when you think about, he technically killed himself off the face of the earth, right? So has he just committed a fake suicide?
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That´s my opinion
same here...agreed!!
When somebody is committing suicide, that person is making the final step of his life, without the possibility of come back.
meaning a false death...
Um...no. When we put it in perspective, and we realize he faked his LIFE, and there THEN follows a DEATH, it NECESSARILY is also faked , because it is not possible to kill a "Fictional Entity", or, what amounts to, a non-breathing legal creation of a being for contractual purposes.
Neither can any such non-breathing "creation" kill off him or herSELF...
He/she/"it" (as in "THIS IS IT" <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> ) <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> can only be inactivated by its creator(in THIS case, Mikey BadBoy Jackson, who created the GREATEST ENTERTAINER WHO EVER LIVED, including all kind of fictional DETAILS about him, to MAKE him BeLIEvable, and, naming "it" after himself.)
I think MJ intended to de-activate his creation at this time, but, it is NOT permanent--- he can't stand leaving the audience hanging for EVER in the middle of his Magic Trick, because if he does, not only will he not get his DUE applause, but NO one will even get it that it WAS only a clever TRICK, before the crowd dissipates.... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
There is NO death. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> NO suicide. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> Just lots of opportunity to cry real tears, over a fake being and his fake sad story about drug overdose... and a REAL madman plotting further, behind the curtain. Everyone KNOWS, don't they, that MJ doesn't do drugs? Drugs are dangerous and foolhardy.
Does anyone think MJ is a fool <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
I didn't think so <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> He has gone and made this whole story UP. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
<!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> The being you "know" <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> as Michael Jackson is the hoax; a Tall Tale for our entertainment. Hoaxing a hoax is a double negative...er...uh...a positive.
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Wow what an intresting subject. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
This is the BEGINING of MOONWALKER BOOK:
"I've always wanted to be able to tell stories, you know, stories that came from my soul. I'd like to sit by a fire and tell people stories - make them see pictures, make them cry and laugh, take them anywhere emotionally with something as deceptively simple as words. I'd like to tell tales to move their souls and transform them. I've always wanted to be able to do that. Imagine how the great writers must feel, knowing they have that power. I sometimes feel I could do it. It's something I'd like to develop. In a way, songwriting uses the same skills, creates the emotional highs and lows, but the story is a sketch. It's quicksilver. There are very few books written on the art of storytelling, how to grip listeners, how to get a group of people together and amuse them. No costumes, no makeup, no nothing, just you and your voice, and your powerful ability to take them anywhere, to transform their lives, if only for minutes."
Again we read about BOOKS.For sure Michael is an avid reader of the BOOKS,lol.He is "the BOOK keeper" and the teller of this great adventure for sure.
If I look back now,I realise this was just a story,maybe a love story with the world.Maybe it was just a fiction just like ITS HER said and what we saw it was the opposite of Michael.But why a man would like to show us this,the opposite of who he is in real life? Always contradictions of what we see and hear.When I look at Michael Jackson I see a candid person with a BIG HEART,but who am I to know the whole story,lol?
In his final days we"learned" about Michael that he died from drugs,lol.This is the usually way the celebrities and famous people die ,because of their life style.As we "konw" Michael had some problems with pain medications,but that's all.Here is what Michael said about drugs in his Moonwalker book agian ,in chapter three:
"The media write weird stuff about me all the time. The distortion of the truth bothers me. I usually don't read a lot of what is printed, although I often hear about it.
I don't understand why they feel the need to make up things about me. I suppose if there's nothing scandalous to report, it's necessary to make things interesting. I take some small pride in thinking that I've come out pretty well, all things considered. A lot of children in the entertainment business ended up doing drugs and destroying themselves: Frankie Lymon, Bobbie Driscoll, any of a number of child stars. And I can understand their turning to drugs, considering the enormous stresses put upon them at a young age. It's a difficult life. Very few manage to maintain any semblance of a normal childhood.
I myself have never tried drugs - no marijuana, no cocaine, nothing. I mean, I haven't even tried these things.
Forget it.
This isn't to say we were never tempted. We were musicians doing business during an era when drug use was common. I don't mean to be judgmental - it's not even a moral issue for me - but I've seen drugs destroy too many lives to think they're anything to fool with. I'm certainly no angel, and I may have my own bad habits, but drugs aren't among them."
SO WHY HE WANTS PEOPLE TO THINK THE OPPOSITE ABOUT HIM? THIS IS A HARD QUESTION TO ASK.
Or maybe this is what "we want to see" because of a too long brainwashing....
Just listen to what Ron Magill talks about Michael, when he was at Metrozoo in 2005.
http://www.thenewsroom.com/details/3734163
LOVE YOU ALL,BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TOGHETER!
It's not that he wants us (or anyone) to think bad about HIM. This is just one of many stories in the world. ALL people have some story to relate, as it happened in their life. Some people like to make things up. They are called storyTELLERS, or AUTHORS, which simply means that the story THEY are telling is MAKE BELIEVE. We probably haven't heard enough of MJ's REAL story---because it is NOT for human consumption. Let him have the same privacy to a personal life that we would want and believe we have a right to, ourselves. There are SOME fans who will get their tails in a knot, at finding out
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was ALL mostly an ILLUSION. He HAD to create fiction about the Greatest Entertainer Who Ever Lived, in order to DISTANCE all that MADNESS from himself. No one can be "ON" 24/7/365.25. It would break Superman, himself. If you look closely, at first, he just started to change some things---making Michael Jackson, Superstar, look larger than life, with all his massive undertakings, and unusual life. Then he began to change the very APPEARANCE of the Superstar, into someone SO different, the real actual MJ could walk amongst the regular herd, UNdetected. It is ingenius. A true Invisible Man---JUST LIKE HE ENDED UP IN THE MUSIC VIDEO,
BILLIE JEAN.
The music is real, the lyrics are his, as it states, on record where they are. The wit and whimsy are his. The contributions to charities aren't faked. The love isn't make believe.
Just as you quoted him from his own book, he did all of this to bless our sox off, and move us to great passion, higher thought, greater tears than ANY other fictional tearjerker, and, when he blows the lid off it all---the greatest surprise <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> and laughter, <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> AND RELIEF <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> EVER <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> Of course the message is central, too. Love is all that matters. It was all for love, as best as someone raised in some of his earliest environments (which would warp any one into a cynic abou women), could attempt.
One thing MJ can't have known, because he IS a man, who has seen all kind of manipulation by women, which he hates and guards himself against religiously, is that mostly, women don't like "hit and runs"---being amorously titillated and then left free to "hit" something else, or "hit" another day---like some regular male animals believe they enjoy. Most gals find it humiliating to be teased with fools gold and abandoned. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> He's put us all into one box and is "giving us the business" (SHOW business <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ).
I am CERTAIN someone (probably Mom )told him about this ("Don't Go Around Breakin Young Girls' Hearts <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ), and just as certain that he said "Pshaw! Bolshevik! IMPOSSIBLE!" because he went ahead and toyed with hearts anyway, MAKING gals fall madly in love with a paper Doll which could never actually belong to anyone...
As ENTERTAINMENT value, it is pure fun: kind of like an interactive romantic adventure---but somehow, if he slipped, (backstage,) into a tender heart who wasn't AWARE that this is a sport, he will be the one surprised by his own hoax, like the song says, "THIS TIME I'VE HURT HER MORE THAN SHE LOVES ME"
I'm not as sure as I was, that he knows the bible inside and out, either. He picked and chose what to model his life after (and, in THAT, he is JUST LIKE everyone else) and ignored some things the Spirit of God, {the (holy) Ghostwriter, behind the Book <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> } warned us about. Remember the passage about the eagles plucking your eyes out, if you are found rolling your eyes at the advisement of your mom or dad's warnings? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Maybe THAT's why he began wearing those sunglasses... <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Just sayin. This IS a SHOW. It is ALL "Make Believe". He sort of TOLD us the guy couldn't be real, when he allowed himself to be photographed in that hyperbaric chamber. Those things are SO dangerous, they are only carefully used in extreme emergencies, where there is nothing else to try. They may save your life, but one can go blind in one of those after only minutes of treatment. He thought your parents would have told you THAT story was crap...He was giving too much credit to the average sheep to know that. My mom told me ALL public announcments about celebrities is crap; everything in the magazines, too. Of course I didn't believe her---what did she know---she was only 2 decades on earth longer than me---everyone knows parents don't know jack... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
So, don't be mad at Mikey for teasing you, faking his death [and finding out he faked more than THAT <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ] , if any of you have a real hard time being a good sport about it...
Bottom line, it was fun, wasn't IT? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> He had to do this---if billions of people didn't get it that Michael Jackson was TOO good to be true, <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> he knew our eyes were closed to other things around us... Are your eyes open now? <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Let me tell you ITS HER that you are simply awesome!!!!!
Your post reminded me about another one of your post,from last month.When I had finished to read that post I was like <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> !!!!!!!!!! I dont know what you are doing "out" of this forum,but let me tell you that you are very talented using the WORDS. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Here is the post I am talking about: MJ is such a genious: The hoax
That video "by" Spike Lee really intrigued me as well. Maybe it was Michael who knows? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
Here it is a interview with Spike Lee where he speaks about Michael.He is very funny when he laughs,by the way,lol. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
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And one last thisg.I dont understand the point to "celebration" of Michael Jackson life made by Spike Lee and Al Sharpton last year.How you can celebrate a "dead" person I dont understand. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Love you all my friends!!!!
Thank you so much for the Spike Lee and Couric interview, <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> (and your kind enthusiasm <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> about my posts).
Spike Lee GETS Michael Jackson, as a true fan, but he also "sees" with the magic eye of a very sensitive artist, actual subtle details, how it really is---sociologically, psychologically, and historically. I didn't mean that MJ ONLY did the tribute video. I meant that Spike Lee has a style, which is evidenced in most of the video, and MJ has very definitely "stepped in" in a couple of very heart-piercing moments. Spike KNOWS Michael, personally. Artiste to artiste, it could be he was sort of <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> "channeling" MJ, there---SO, SO authentic was the ambience and essence of actual "Mikey" <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> I just FELT <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> the REAL deal in those certain shots. Tribute is one thing; LOVE always makes me cry.
Now, this is what I want to tell you about "celebrating" someone's life.
It is sometimes another way of eulogizing a deceased person--done instead of a tearjerking funeral, which --FACE IT, are all about YOUR LOSS, instead of the dead person's LOSS of a future...
Sometimes you see this kind of thing at a Christian's passing, because they believe the person just went on to "their reward", and they'll see them again, when THEY make that trip out...sometimes they call these "Homegoings", because someone coined a phrase once that, "this earth is not our home---we are only passing through".
But also, MOST commonly, these celebrations are to count one's blessing for that person's contributions to your life.
Yeah, mourn his passing (IF he died <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> ) but, celebrate the fact that HE, in all his joyful sparkle left a mark on your very soul which changed you FOR EVER---and IT didn't die when he did!!
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We are NOT as <!-- s --><!-- s -->
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<!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> as the thought of his passing made us feel <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: -->
This is cause for GREAT JOY and exuberant jubilation <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Spike said it all! The party lasted three hours, dancing and celebrating to three hours of non-stop hits. If people could have, it could have been an all nighter--of non stop hits.
One can only express so much happiness at a time. After that, it would have been like deja vu--at a Michael Jackson concert event, where they'd need medic tents set up for the guests' exhaustion!!!!!!! <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
I have never heard of ANY one entertainer who was MORE loved--all over the world, by strangers. I don't mean just the "fans" who think they are "in love" with him--I mean, people like the guy who did the nightly news on NBC (sorry, I don't wish to embarrass the guy, in light of this being a faked death <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> and all....so I won't print his name here), who had such a lump <!-- s --><!-- s --> in his throat while saying the words, "Michael Jackson...has...died", that I myself lost it ALL OVER AGAIN, feeling that love from him <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> No matter what happens, now, we all have to admit we were VERY blessed by Michael Jackson's extraordinary presence in our lives. And the gift goes on. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->