TIAI August 28

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  • chappiechappie Posts: 529
    47 years ago.
    Chappie
  • Yambo3003Yambo3003 Posts: 291
    "I am happy to join with you in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation." ~Martin Luther King Jr.
  • chappiechappie Posts: 529
    Martin Luther King in the middle.
    Man in the mirror.
    Make that change!

    http://www.michaeljackson.com/us

    Chappie
  • What an honerable man he was..... what an incredible man he was.... what a huge man he was.....what an outspoken man he was for the rights of humanity........what a loss we feel..what a tragic loss of a man who was so willing to speak up for his fellow men. .......what a man who epitomized the value of respect honor and virtue .....and what a loss of a man who cared so much for people.

    What a loss.
  • MJFAN7MJFAN7 Posts: 3,063
    I love Martin Luther King. I wasn't alive when he made the speech, but the first time I learned about it, I was in awe. I was so inspired and thankful that someone finally stood up made a change to society. Segregation is not right at all, I will never understand racism and how one race can treat another race differently. Like Ryan White said, "I'm surprised people have dogs, because their different!"

    Thank you TS for this redirect. ♥
    xoxo.
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    I'm very much like this redirect today TS, thank you. What an honorable man MLK was.
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    This redirect is what Hazzely requested on yesterday's redirect thread:
    Come on TS prove us why we trusted you before the Elvis media approach. We need something different from Elvis theories which not everyone believes into

    PD: Just a thought..maybe he just wants to upload a b-day video for Michael not an update..He always used the forum for that.. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    B-day video..? I don't think he needs our forum to wish happy Birthday to him.

    or maybe that MLK speech, some redirect or whatever
    And I didn't say he used the forum for the videos, but for the UPDATES.

    http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=13701&start=25#p228551

  • "Let freedom ring. And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring—when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children—black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics—will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"



    Free of prejudice, free of being lied to, free of the opression of those who seek to control us. I understand why this speech is so pertinent to the hoax ... it pretty much tells us why there needed to be a hoax.

    Thank you TS for this redirect on the 47th anniversary of the speech being delivered by the inspirational Martin Luther King Jnr.
  • hopihopi Posts: 195

    "Let freedom ring. And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring—when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children—black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics—will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"


    This ALWAYS brings tears to my eyes... I want to sing this LOUD and CLEAR and with ALL MY HEART...
  • should make for an interesting day glenn beck at the lincoln memorial and al sharpton at the national mall.who will you be keeping an eye on? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    I Have a Dream too!

    it's an amazing speech... MLK was an amazing human being... respect him very much! he inspires me!
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    Redirected to: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_have_a_dream<!-- m -->

    Are we all in the hoax forum going to break free from it soon?

    I love that speech btw <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
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    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    August 28, 1963, was pronounced the emblematic phrase that was marked forever: "I have a dream"

    "Dream that someday this nation will rise and you will experience the true meaning of its creed".

    Hoped, also came the day that Americans would be judged by its integrity for its color.

    The dream of Martin Luther King for a world without racism, sexism and without any separation between peoples.

    "Nothing is worth only have the right to vote." "The right to education, health and all services is also important.
    "Democracy cannot survive if many are too and most very little"
    "We have to be good neighbours, we reject the politics of the murders, threats." "Conflicts should be resolved with our minds and not missiles".
  • THANK YOU TS <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • GlindaGlinda Posts: 658
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  • mjj4ever777mjj4ever777 Posts: 1,467
    Thanks TS...MLK made this speech on my Birthday!( I was born in 1962 though) Such powerful words, so much meaning...words to live by! "FREEDOM"... God Bless us all!
  • mdcmdc Posts: 343
    Nothing to do with the hoax, I just find it interesting that MLK, Jr. was assassinated in Memphis, TN...home of Elvis Presley.
  • rasyterasyte Posts: 484
    Nothing to do with the hoax, I just find it interesting that MLK, Jr. was assassinated in Memphis, TN...home of Elvis Presley.

    "in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration
    for freedom in the history of our nation." MLK words used in TII.. this "I have a dream" speech is very strong and have much to do with a hoax.. and msg, and propose of this hoax I think.. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> so It's important to remember this speech, and especially now on anniversary.. <(^.^)>
  • Again, referencing the depth of the hoax. Powerful!
  • I examined the page and saw a thing at the bottom titled "Media." I clicked it and one of the links is about an episode of The Boondocks called "Return of the King."

    I clicked it and here is the link: <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_ ... _Boondocks<!-- m -->)
    "Return of the King" is the ninth episode of the animated television series The Boondocks, airing on Cartoon Network as part of its Adult Swim programming. It was originally broadcast on January 15, 2006, which would have been Martin Luther King, Jr.'s 77th birthday. The episode's name was taken from the The Lord of the Rings volume The Return of the King. It won a Peabody Award in 2006.

    PLOT:
    The episode begins with two quotes, the first being:

    “ I want young men and young women who are alive today to know and see that these new privileges and opportunities did not come without somebody suffering and sacrificing for them. ”

    -Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
    And the second:

    “ Whatever, nigga. ”

    -Anonymous
    Huey Freeman tells an alternative version of history regarding the "attempted" assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. On April 4, 1968 King is shot and critically wounded. Instead of dying, he falls into a coma in which he remains for 32 years, waking up significantly aged in a hospital bed on October 27, 2000. He shows up to vote for the 2000 U.S. presidential election, but is "turned away due to voting irregularity". While walking along a city street which happened to bear his name, gunshots go off, causing the gathered crowd to flee. He thus learns that "streets named after him weren't the very safest."

    King experiences a resurgence of popularity, obtaining a book deal and agreeing to a biopic of his life (starring Cuba Gooding, Jr. as King). The movie is directed by Oliver Stone, "pissing off" Spike Lee (a reference to Lee's anger that Norman Jewison was initially supposed to direct Malcolm X) Unfortunately, the movie is released the week after the 9/11 attacks, making it a flop. Soon after, King appears on Politically Incorrect, stating that his Christian faith teaches him to "turn the other cheek", even with respect to enemies such as Al-Qaeda. His commentary receives severe scorn from the White House Press Secretary, CNN and Time magazine, and causes his popularity to plummet.

    At his vacant book signing, King meets Huey and Robert Freeman, the latter of whom he is acquainted with from the Civil Rights era (it is later revealed in the episode that Robert Freeman participated in the Montgomery Bus Boycott with Rosa Parks, but was completely ignored). Learning that he is staying in a Holiday Inn Express ("I feel smarter already"), the Freemans invite Dr. King to dinner and to sleep at their house. Later that night, Huey and King, while watching television, express their disgust with the state of black popular culture.

    The next day, Huey persuades King to try to reach out to the public again. While eating at a McWuncler's, a parody of McDonald's (where King guiltily admits to having an affinity for the McRib), Huey convinces him that the two of them should start a political party, although King is insistent that Huey should get Oprah Winfrey to do so instead. King appears on a television show to explain the philosophy of his new party, but finds himself unable to expound due to frequent interruptions from the fast-talking, curt, bowtie-wearing right-wing host (voiced by Jim Meskimen). Right before a commercial break, Huey rushes the stage after throwing a chair at the host, beating him on camera. Afterwards, King and Huey settle on spreading their message the old-fashioned way: through flyers and door-to-door solicitation.

    The goal of their party is further disrupted when King hires an "urban promotions firm" to advertise the party's planning meeting, which advertises it on an FM radio pop music station as a "party." As a result, dozens of young black people arrive at the church and begin behaving as though it were a club. A bouncer (voiced by DJ Pooh) prevents Huey and King's entrance, insisting that they must bribe him, which they do. Upon entering, they are stunned by the unrestrained behavior of the reveling crowd and are shocked to find that the podium has been taken over by a series of rappers, televangelists, and other superficial black pop culture icons. King, managing to get to the podium, tries to quiet the crowd by appealing to the audience's sense of brotherhood. He fails. Suddenly becoming fiercely impassioned, he proclaims, "WILL YOU IGNORANT NIGGAS PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP?!" The crowd is shocked.

    King then goes on to ask: "Is this it? This is what I got all those ass-whoopings for?" He continues to refer to the audience repeatedly as "niggas" out of apparent frustration that the current generation of black people have willfully assumed the negative racial stereotypes associated with them. He goes on a tirade, attacking specific elements of black popular culture such as Black Entertainment Television, Michael Jackson, and Soul Plane. King concludes his speech by saying, "I've seen what's around the corner, I've seen what's over the horizon, and I promise you, you niggas have nothing to celebrate! And no, I won't get there with you. I'm going to Canada."

    King thanks Huey, advising him to "do what he can." Media exposure of his speech causes black citizens to become angry with their situation, creating an uprising similar to those of the 1960s. The episode concludes with a mob of enraged, young black men and women screaming at the gates of the White House, cursing an unnamed presidential administration. Several news channels report that all black members of the NBA are sitting the season out until "troops are withdrawn", that drop-out rates among African-American youths have suddenly plummeted, and that Robert L. Johnson issued a public apology for founding BET. Finally, the front page of a newspaper from 2020 is shown, revealing that King has died in Vancouver at 91 and, furthermore, that Oprah Winfrey has been elected president.

    Huey concludes the episode with these words: "It's fun to dream.", stating that this whole episode was Huey's interpretation as to what would happen if MLK Jr. have lived instead of being assassinated in '68.

    CONTROVERSY: "Return of the King" was the most controversial episode of The Boondocks's first season. The episode received criticism from Al Sharpton for depicting Martin Luther King Jr. using the term "nigga". He demanded an apology from Aaron McGruder and Cartoon Network, stating "Cartoon Network must apologize and also commit to pulling episodes that desecrate black historic figures. We are totally offended by the continuous use of the n-word in McGruder's show."

    Cartoon Network replied by releasing a statement saying, "We think Aaron McGruder came up with a thought-provoking way of not only showing Dr. King's bravery but also of reminding us of what he stood and fought for, and why even today, it is important for all of us to remember that and to continue to take action."[1] McGruder himself responded to Sharpton's criticism in The Boondocks comic strip, by having the characters ridicule Sharpton's choice to attack a cartoon over other, more relevant issues. The characters in the strip never specify the cartoon to which they're alluding.[2][3][4][5] The incident was also referenced on the show, in the episode "The Block is Hot." While Huey listens to an internet radio station, the broadcaster mentions that Al Sharpton is in the media again, this time complaining about a "cartoon", again, not specifying the cartoon to which the broadcaster is referring. This was likely a last minute addition, as that episode first aired less than two months following the incident

    CULTURAL REFERENCES:
    Dr. King's climactic speech at the end of the episode is from the lyrics of Asheru's song "Niggas".

    The lyrics to Asheru's song "Niggas" hint at references and ideas from the Last Poets song "Niggas are Scared of Revolution."

    A running gag from the Boondocks strip (in which Huey angrily attacks Usher and Justin Timberlake for copying Michael Jackson by screaming Jackson is a musician, not a genre of music) is featured in this episode.

    Bill O'Reilly is shown attacking King for his comments. His portrayal in the show reflects the claims of his critics that he unfairly labels anyone whom he disagrees with as anti-American.

    The song sung while Huey and Dr. King go door to door telling people about the revolution party, is called "Wishing" by Edo G. featuring Masta Ace.

    Might not mean anything, just someting I found interesting.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    "Dr. King had the power, the ability, and the capacity to transform those steps on the Lincoln Memorial into a monumental area that will forever be recognized. By speaking the way he did, he educated, he inspired, he informed not just the people there, but people throughout America and unborn generations."

    Very true and not only in the USA but in the entire world. Unfortunately this great man has been assasinated by the dark side, we must not forget the enemy we have to fight. With this speech I try to see how things have evolved since 1963 for Black Americans and even if there's a Black President we must admit that the situation is far from being satisfactory. And not only for Black Americans but for almost all Americans finally. If we try to see things on a larger scale the world has evolved but he is heading towards the wrong direction. Things have changed only on the surface, when you scratched beyond you realize that it's just an illusion.

    We need another MLK, another speech, an army of L.O.V.E. able to make that change for real and not let the dark side win. I've always imagined Michael making this kind of speech, he sure would gather a lot of people. How powerful that would be! Maybe that TS' post (if there is still one) will be a kind of MLK speech. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • Interesting post Cheetoman! Wouldn't it be wonderful if MLK was still alive? ... then we could have the Return of the KINGS ... MJ, MLK and Elvis <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • mjj4ever777mjj4ever777 Posts: 1,467
    "Dr. King had the power, the ability, and the capacity to transform those steps on the Lincoln Memorial into a monumental area that will forever be recognized. By speaking the way he did, he educated, he inspired, he informed not just the people there, but people throughout America and unborn generations."

    Very true and not only in the USA but in the entire world. Unfortunately this great man has been assasinated by the dark side, we must not forget the enemy we have to fight. With this speech I try to see how things have evolved since 1963 for Black Americans and even if there's a Black President we must admit that the situation is far from being satisfactory. And not only for Black Americans but for almost all Americans finally. If we try to see things on a larger scale the world has evolved but he is heading towards the wrong direction. Things have changed only on the surface, when you scratched beyond you realize that it's just an illusion.

    We need another MLK, another speech, an army of L.O.V.E. able to make that change for real and not let the dark side win. I've always imagined Michael making this kind of speech, he sure would gather a lot of people. How powerful that would be! Maybe that TS' post (if there is still one) will be a kind of MLK speech. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->


    It would be great if the next time we see Michael, it is atop those same steps, where MLK gave his speech...Michael would draw the masses and say "I too had a dream..." and together we would continue his legacy...
  • I've been on Morehouse's campus hundreds of thousands of times and I can't believe I've never seen the draft of his speech. I walked by the statue of MLK just about every day (and I believe I may have even climbed on it at one point <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> ) and never stopped to read the inscription. At night, I would just hurry by it because the statue had 3 shadows and it seemed like one of them was always pointing at me and I found it to be a little creepy. Being African American myself, I've heard the speech quite often and I appreciated it for what it was, but I never took the time to connect with it. I'm ashamed that it took something like this for me to really stop and reflect on it. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> Thank you so much TS.
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