The "orange pants Michael" was Michael

Hazzely

I saw many people saying the "orange pants Michael" was not Michael but a double even after having heard him talking and singing..
I found this picture and I hope it clears up your doubts.. for his sake

Souza

Oh now I see what you mean!!!!! Yes it is Michael!! But Michaell who?

Sorry, but this pic really doesn't convince me.

dontmakeitfactual

I used to think it was him, but after rewatching TII several times I don't think so anymore. My guess is that there may indeed exist some very limited footage of MJ rehearsing on these same clothes; I think that they needed to show him in different clothes -to account for the number of rehearsals-, and MJ only did a few songs on 'orange pants day'. So they created orange pants guys to shoot some other songs. (not sure if i've explained myself cleatly enough <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> )

The more I watch it the more convinced I am. There may be a few orange pants moments where we actually see MJ, but most if it it's definitely not him IMO

I'm not sure about this picture actually -but not convinced!

mjwr

What I beLIEve and already said on an other topic is; There are doubles that are way more looking like Michael we don't know. Michael "told" us NAVI was the "number one" impersonator/lookalike whatsoever, so that we believe that there's no one more looking like Michael.

About the picture and your statement. The picture doesn't tell me much at all. The man is wearing glasses and "looks" like Michael Jackson. I am not trying to diss Michael Jackson or anything particular, but you know like in the HIStory tour Michael lip-synched alot and how do you lip-synch with pre-recorded audio. The shots in the movie are most of the time the same audio from a song, but how can you sing one song in one straigth line with the same voice?

A video for you to watch is from http://www.youtube.com/user/MJHoaxEvidence
I know theres a topic with the video, but it doesn't mather right now.
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Souza

Purple lighting, fedora, sunglasses...there is no way to see who this is. Besides that, this is a picture, not a screen from the movie so it could be orange dude, could be someone else with the same outfit and even mask. If I compare this picture with the one we see in Black or White/Thriller in the film, I say it's not him. TII is Michael Jackson's Big Optical Illusion in every possible way. Him/not him/him/not him. As for the TII footage: all you have to do is look at the movements. If they are off or even bad: it's not him. Changing Billie Jean into a parody? No way in hell. Not able to dance because he's ready for his zimmer frame? No way, because he still has the moves as we can clearly see in other clips from TII. It the movements are sharp with great timing: it could very well be him but it could also be a double that dances well. Don't go by the looks, he can fool his own mother. If He can dress up like Dave Dave, others can dress up like him, it's simple as that. People just seem to be in double denial about that movie, and I don't get why.

MJonmind

Souza. Don't go by the looks, he can fool his own mother. If He can dress up like Dave Dave, others can dress up like him, it's simple as that.

Are you implying that the double was actually using latex and not just make-up on his face? That would be more accurate than any of the impersonators who we can tell a mile off are not MJ.

Souza

Souza. Don't go by the looks, he can fool his own mother. If He can dress up like Dave Dave, others can dress up like him, it's simple as that.

Are you implying that the double was actually using latex and not just make-up on his face? That would be more accurate than any of the impersonators who we can tell a mile off are not MJ.

Prostetic make-up, I have been saying that for months, but people don't seem to know what the possibilities are with it these days. Just look at the mayor in Ghost, that was 13/14 years ago. Believe me, they can make me look like Michael Jackson and I would fool you all! (Well, not all of you <!-- s --><!-- s --> )

Hard to fake: eyes...hence the sunglasses.

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Souza

Another example: Angelina Jolie in Salt (very good movie by the way!). She also had prostetic hands. Seriously, the sky is the limit.

AnaMarcia

The only that was really Michael the orange pants was in the early ... until the moment he sings Spechless. All others are very awkward and charmless.
Not to have doubts regarding the doubles, just compare Michael gray suit (Singing TDCAU) and blue shirt (singing I Want You Back) with that sing Human nature ... There is much difference ... When is really Michael, a man is handsome, charming, youthful appearance! Not to mention the dance moves.
I also have many questions regarding the Billie Jean, because in Man in the mirror I see the same appearance... I think that is not Michael.
To finish ... you'll call me crazy, but at the final moment of TII. when he says that back in his time, play a little, snaps his fingers and Bam ... is also a double (my opinion, ok ...) <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
I'm crazy?? I think not!

foreverking

The picture does not convince me that the orange pants guy was MJ.

One thing I noticed about this person was his ears. It seems MJ did not like to wear the ear pieces that most performers use today. He was very clear in TII how he felt about them and I read somewhere that he and Kenny were in total disagreement abut using them, however orange pants MJ seems at ease with them and the orange pants scenes were all early in the rehersals, while the clip in TII where MJ complained about the ear pieces was later a few days before he faked his death.

I know we aren't seeing every second of the rehersals and it's possible orange pants MJ also didn't like them, but he seems at ease with them in his ear.

jacilovesmichael

Souza. Don't go by the looks, he can fool his own mother. If He can dress up like Dave Dave, others can dress up like him, it's simple as that.

Are you implying that the double was actually using latex and not just make-up on his face? That would be more accurate than any of the impersonators who we can tell a mile off are not MJ.

Prostetic make-up, I have been saying that for months, but people don't seem to know what the possibilities are with it these days. Just look at the mayor in Ghost, that was 13/14 years ago. Believe me, they can make me look like Michael Jackson and I would fool you all! (Well, not all of you <!-- s --><!-- s --> )

Hard to fake: eyes...hence the sunglasses.

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Yep. There is no way to tell.

For some reason I just got the image in my head of MJ in "The Making of Thriller" when he had that white plaster type stuff painted on his face and left to dry to make a mold of his face...


Now take that mold and make a face for someone else to wear and...BAM!

Souza

Souza. Don't go by the looks, he can fool his own mother. If He can dress up like Dave Dave, others can dress up like him, it's simple as that.

Are you implying that the double was actually using latex and not just make-up on his face? That would be more accurate than any of the impersonators who we can tell a mile off are not MJ.

Prostetic make-up, I have been saying that for months, but people don't seem to know what the possibilities are with it these days. Just look at the mayor in Ghost, that was 13/14 years ago. Believe me, they can make me look like Michael Jackson and I would fool you all! (Well, not all of you <!-- s --><!-- s --> )

Hard to fake: eyes...hence the sunglasses.

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Yep. There is no way to tell.

For some reason I just got the image in my head of MJ in "The Making of Thriller" when he had that white plaster type stuff painted on his face and left to dry to make a mold of his face...


Now take that mold and make a face for someone else to wear and...BAM!

Here is a mold from 1996 <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> :

jacilovesmichael

Souza. Don't go by the looks, he can fool his own mother. If He can dress up like Dave Dave, others can dress up like him, it's simple as that.

Are you implying that the double was actually using latex and not just make-up on his face? That would be more accurate than any of the impersonators who we can tell a mile off are not MJ.

Prostetic make-up, I have been saying that for months, but people don't seem to know what the possibilities are with it these days. Just look at the mayor in Ghost, that was 13/14 years ago. Believe me, they can make me look like Michael Jackson and I would fool you all! (Well, not all of you <!-- s --><!-- s --> )

Hard to fake: eyes...hence the sunglasses.

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Yep. There is no way to tell.

For some reason I just got the image in my head of MJ in "The Making of Thriller" when he had that white plaster type stuff painted on his face and left to dry to make a mold of his face...


Now take that mold and make a face for someone else to wear and...BAM!

Here is a mold from 1996 <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> :

Well how 'bout that! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

MJonmind

Well this definately ups the difficulty level of identification. It's a mad MJ hoax world. Only the fittest (eagle-eyed) will survive. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

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AgentBJ

I saw many people saying the "orange pants Michael" was not Michael but a double even after having heard him talking and singing..
I found this picture and I hope it clears up your doubts.. for his sake

I don't know... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

jacilovesmichael

I saw many people saying the "orange pants Michael" was not Michael but a double even after having heard him talking and singing..
I found this picture and I hope it clears up your doubts.. for his sake

I don't know... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

Well it's clear that the use of doubles succeeded in fooling all of us on many occasions! If we can't tell or aren't sure, then mission accomplished!

Datroot

I've said this before - I think close-ups of organge pants was MJ but distance shots/film was a double.

steph

i`m with you souza ,the skys the limit when it comes to make up.I have thought for a long time that it could be anyone made up to look like him.

AgentBJ

I've said this before - I think close-ups of organge pants was MJ but distance shots/film was a double.

Good point.

@AnaMarcia
Sorry, I disagree, that man in the BAM-scene was the real MJ. You can feel that.

suspicious mind

I've said this before - I think close-ups of organge pants was MJ but distance shots/film was a double.

Good point.

@AnaMarcia
Sorry, I disagree, that man in the BAM-scene was the real MJ. You can feel that.

ah but can you trust your feelins? is that the next question? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

bonita

Oh now I see what you mean!!!!! Yes it is Michael!! But Michaell who?

Sorry, but this pic really doesn't convince me.

What about the voice though? I believe that picture is from when he said, " You gotta watch me for that growl, okay?"
SOUNDS LIKE MICHAEL. <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->

suspicious mind

Oh now I see what you mean!!!!! Yes it is Michael!! But Michaell who?

Sorry, but this pic really doesn't convince me.

What about the voice though? I believe that picture is from when he said, " You gotta watch me for that growl, okay?"
SOUNDS LIKE MICHAEL. :?:

are you sure? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

Souza

Oh now I see what you mean!!!!! Yes it is Michael!! But Michaell who?

Sorry, but this pic really doesn't convince me.

What about the voice though? I believe that picture is from when he said, " You gotta watch me for that growl, okay?"
SOUNDS LIKE MICHAEL. <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->

Well I think it could easily be someone else's voice as well because I am really not convinced that it is Mike's voice. Plus it could be a live recording and he could be lipsyncing, like in most of the movie.

Also keep in mind that there are actually people that have a very similar voice:

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Mike didn't sing this, but Kipp Lennon did:

Lennon has contributed to several episodes of The Simpsons: in the episode "Stark Raving Dad," although Michael Jackson (credited as "John Jay Smith") performed the speaking part of Leon Kompowski, a character who pretended he was Michael Jackson, Lennon sang the songs because Jackson was only contracted to speak, not sing. He sang Jackson's songs "Ben" and "Billie Jean" as well as the original song "Lisa, It's Your Birthday," written by Jackson. He also provides Jackson's singing voice in The Jacksons: An American Dream.
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ritasamson

oh did you mean that was the fake or duplicate Mj... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->