How 2012 Enlightenment Will Lead To Genocide
KAP93
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I Haven't The Slightest Idea Where To Post This So Bear With Me!!
-This Is a Three Part Doc About The 2012 Enlightenment and what it really means:
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-This Is a Three Part Doc About The 2012 Enlightenment and what it really means:
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Comments
These are interesting and well done. Thanks for posting them. You asked for comments. This is strongly from the perspective that Christians have it all 100% corrrect, and are the only ones who will be targeted for persecution because they are the chosen ones, as in saved, and the rest of humanity 10 out 12 billion people (approx.) will be going to hell. They already have it wrong when they picture Jesus as a white man, when he is clearly Scripturally, historically and archeologically proven to be black. And that information has nothing to do with channelling or enlightened beings giving the information. I agree that the entities who are channelling the information on the videos to these gurus are possibly lying about what is coming, and I agree that UFO's may be involved, and genocide will llikely be happening, but not necessarily as this man suggests. I'm not saying I know what's going to happen, but I'm saying this man seems to have it all figured out, but he is only presenting another theory based on the same evangelical Biblical stance I grew up with. I totally believe in a Creator God, who created human and "alien" alike, and has created a grand drama of history, creating a powerful adversary in Satan and his authority structures. God is fully in control, and there is no free will, and we are being guided along, all atoms in the universe. If the Christians see their Messiah coming in the clouds and if he looks like the painting, that hangs in many Christian homes, who appears to many in dreams and visions, that may be the very image that is the anti-Christ. This may be all a grand illusion, ARG game that God has got going here. This is all just my opinion.
I understand thats your opinion and i respect it. but to dispute the color of the skin of Jesus is neither important nor relevant. We are all created alike and by one ultimate being, God. And the fact that we would focus more on the color of his skin rather then the message he'd delivered from god, how to live our life by god, and to have faith in the lord is quite sad. Let us not focus on how he looked, but how he lived and why he was sent from the lord. To prejudge people and say they are going to hell for thinking something different is just as bad and its not our job but only gods decision. Color should never be a factor
--The video isn't stating that Christians are the only ones to be targeted. It's stating that anyone who is against this new movement(new world order, one faith ,one goverment, one world) will be targeted. I believe everything stated in the videos is exactly what Michael & God are trying to warn people about. Remember we have four years to get it right? Four years = 2012. I think that is also what the visions and dreams members on this forum are having are pointing to. That's why the bible states that in the last days there will be false prophets, false teachings ,& false miracles. That's also why the bible warns us about following the new age movement. For those of you who aren't familiar with the new age movement here you are: The NWO won't just be governmental, but spiritual as well. Similar to what we see in the film V for Vendetta. In the film the government used religion as an excuse to kill what they considered to be enemies of their own little agenda. Anyone against the NWO ,which does include being against a one world religion that the video was talking about, will be targeted. Which will be a HUUUUGE group of people.
That's Michael used different religious symbols as clues in the we are the world performance at the memorial. Anyone who isn't for the NWO movement will be targeted!
--Also, we do have free will. Yes God is in control, but God allows us to believe what so ever we want to believe. Whether what we believe is the truth or not. That is also why we have such horrible things happening in the world,because we have free will. You can choose to do right & live right or you can choose to do evil things & believe in evil things. The choice is yours.
The girl in the picture MJonmind is talking about is from the painting in the Denver Airport:
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This is what the maker of the doc had to say:
Since the early days of the 2012 theories when David Wilcock was channeling an entity named Ra. people were told that 2012 was really all about enlightenment. This idea is the one we are supposed to believe I think, Yes I know, this is a bit of an insult to those who think that they have uncovered the idea that 2012 was really about a consciousness shift or spiritual evolution as opposed to some doomsday situation through their diligent research. Well, Im sorry to burst your bubble, but this has been the line even back when 2012 enlightenment was supposed to have occurred in 2000 (it was pushed back after it didnt happen). Nowadays, it would be very difficult to find a 2012 website that doesnt make a claim similar to the following: Many people think 2012 is about the end of the world, but that is what stupid people think, we smart people know that it is really about a great cosmic shift in consciousness. Ok, they might be a little more subtle than that. But what I am saying is that you only think your the only one who knows 2012 is supposed to be about spiritual evolution, this what what you were meant to think all along. The idea, if properly presented, has many uses for a global government. One of which will be acceptance of the genocide of dissenters of that new system. Im not saying the people behind promulgating the ideas are part of a secret cabal or anything (for the most part anyway) in fact, I think they really do believe their sources, in Wilcocks case his source is Ra and as we will see, there are many types of Ras out there, and they are extremely concerned with getting those who are willing to listen to them, to tell the world about this coming enlightenment in or around 2012.
Anyway on the black Jesus/Yahshuah theme, here's 2 sites:
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Black people have been comfortable with a white Jesus for generations, but few white people around the world are comfortable with a black-skinned kinky-haired Jesus (even upsets them-why?), so I disagree that the color of his skin is not important. I'm white, and others I've told, were offended.
One of the things TS has encouraged us to to, is to think for ourselves, and not just accept things we've been told. There are many different perspectives on understanding who Jesus was, what his name really is, what his message was/is, the interpretation of the Bible, not just one way as you suggest.
The only reason I brought skin color into my first post was not to be a pain, but that, the video creator seemed confident he was right, where these others were wrong. I'm not saying the other theories such as like David Icke has are wrong or right. Jesus talked about trying to take a splinter out of someone else eye, when you have a log in your own eye. All my life I have simply accepted the perspective given on these videos, that Christians were right and the others wrong, but now I want to make sure I have annalyzed and researched all pertinent information, leaving no stone unturned. I don't mean to offend anyone, as that's just where I am on my spiritual journey, and respect others on their journey for truth. I continue to learn so much from others here on this site, elsewhere and the Bible.
KAP93
I appreciated listening to the videos. Thanks for the information that the little girl pictured was from Denver Airport. You had mentioned that there was what looked like Lightman on TII, so I compared the girl pictured to the young girl that Michael sang about, not knowing where it was from, that's all.
Kap93..after reading your post, I felt compelled to write a little bit about what my own thoughts are concerning some of the subjects you are talking about.
I also hope just like you
that no one will be offended by what I got to say...
by KAP93 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:43 pm
Sorry If I Offend Anyone But Here's My Opinion:
That's Michael used different religious symbols as clues in the we are the world performance at the memorial. Anyone who isn't for the NWO movement will be targeted!
My understanding is, Michael showed the various religious symbols, to show,and lead they way to Religious Unity in this World..
He is trying to tell the people of this world, that the crazy divisiveness of the different concepts held by each and every religious body or organized religion, if you will, as possessing the "Only right and True knowledge about God" are pure Non Sense.
Especially when we look at it all of them with an open mind and heart, we will find that, all major Religions of this crazy World , basically teach the same thing.
..I.E. that God is Love.
It is all for Love...Michael J. Jackson
All this craziness about wanting to be the only holder/s of the "the correct or Orthodox knowledge of God" that all claim for themselves, is nothing more than pure Ego, ,...and could only have been created by man himself, in the light of the fact, and in Truth also, when there is only one Creator of all there is in the whole of the universe. (if any would believe in Creation).
Everyone and everybody, may approach God the way they choose to approach him, and believe in him, but in the End, all are worshiping the very same God.
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Since there is really no other God but One.
The question of duality, in God vs. Satan, also should be included in this view, since , Satan, if he exists as an entity in his own right, is also the creation of God.
The one and ONLY God has also created him,
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"Satan"... is not and will never be more powerful, than his own Creator.
But, I believe, that Satan is just a 'scape Goat" for our own Misdeeds as it were, and is represented as an "Entity" in the Bible, but actually is a part of man's dual nature.
As an orthodox Christian, this view, would give me a very hard time to believe in, when the Christian Bible clearly speaks of "Evil Spirit" and Satan etc.
But, I have to say, the trouble always arises in interpretation of the "sacred Scriptures".
and reading the Bible in a literalistic way, when the Bible is in truth an Allegorical, and Cryptic document which holds occult messages and Truth ,
that would liberate each and everyone of the believers , if only it would be taught in that way, instead of a legalistic and literalistic Dogma, that most times does not edify nor teach anything at all of value to the believer about what it should really point to.
I.E..in sum: .Love of God and Love among All, and God's relationship with his creation and the believer's with God.).
I truly believe the Satan spoken of there, in the Christian Bible, is resident within all of us humans and that is the struggle we have to go through to overcome our own temptations,because of the free will God has bestowed upon us, to choose what we would do in the end, about every any of our undertakings in this world,.
And I might add, just like Jesus had to, when he was tempted by the "Devil" for forty days and and forty nights in the "Wilderness"
In other words, Jesus had to Overcome his false attachment to a transitory world and See the Truth, before he could preach and start his Ministry to the world,showing the way of the Light of God,and asking for every one of his brothers and sisters also to Overcome the World, if they would enter and see the "Kingdom of God".
He has promised us after all, that we could do greater things than Him even, if we would understand what he was telling us, and in fact,that it the reason why He came here,
i.e. to tell us all about the " Kingdom of God".
i. e. our own Make up, and our true relationship to God.
That is what I believe should be understood by Christians of all denominations, as The Gospel or the Good News of Jesus the Christ.
And I am not a follower of the.. "New Age Cult".
Now , I will try to post something that I hope would be of some educational value to some Christians among us, who abhor the "New Age doctrine" and all other things that them may not quite understand or quite identify with since they have never heard about it or worse have heard false propaganda preached against various aspects of the so called "demonic " doctrine.
While the subject is a vast one, I will touch here on a few aspect of topics posted here by you.and I speak from the benefit of personal experience as a Christian as well,regarding this particular subject.
.i. e. the Kundalini Energy or sometime referred to as "serpent fire"..because of its "serpent like movement as an 'coiled Energy"
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What is Kundalini:
Kundalini resides in every living being as the divine
desire to become one with God.
Since the beginning of the creation this force has been acting and pushing the evolution forward.
In our western tradition Kundalini could be understood as The Holy Spirit. In Hebraic scriptures she is called “Ruach”.
Kundalini is in essence creative, and though but comparatively slightly aroused in the dense physical body it manifests itself as the sex urge.
It resides coiled up like a serpent,in the sacral chakram at the base of the spine, which in its turn is a relay station for the similarly coiled up energy in the center of the earth.
When awakened, Kundalini flows up an etheric canal called the sushumna nadi, in Sanskrit, or in the spinal cord,in English, and passes through each of the force centers or chakrams/energy centers, in its journey upwards to the crown Charkra or top of the head of man, that will flow the energy upwards to connect with that of the Universal Energy or God.
This is called the A Wakening of the Soul,or a start of the Soul's journey towards ,
the State of " Christ Consciousness,"
And ,the dense physical body of man, will be bathed with total light from within,(perfection or without Sin)
ala..
"I am the Light of the World" as Jesus has told us, and he knew perfectly well what he was talking about and knew also we also could experience it in our own person just like he did.
That is to say, Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, Islamic , Agnostic or what have you, makes no difference whatsoever,they would all experience this LIght, When the "dense physical man "Awakens" and starts to mind " His Fathers' business" or become "Spiritual",
the more he attains towards perfection, then the more Light of God he will be able to shine withing his own person and all around him as well, and become closer and closer to his CReator.
Love is what the man learn to Manifest, basically speaking, since when he Loves, he can do no harm to none. Period.
and to briefly touch on the topic of 'Clairvoyance" you posted about,
And when this cosmic force within Man awakens the man, for his dense "sleep", or his Adamic Sleep, through the Kundalini eruption, or the touch or the Holy Spirit , if you will, then...fire works start to go off.
Literally speaking now from experience.
and why,... the man would have an "different" vision, of " "Reality"..as he had known it and would experience and altered consciousness, as it is termed at times, and would see the world differently than he was accustomed to seeing it, even though,that he had thought in his asleep state, that he knew the "world" very well, judging through his 5 senses alone.
But, when he gains " spiritual Sight", yes, he becomes Clairvoyant,and would gain so many other "psychic powers beside, ..and the Spirit would reveal to him, the " things of God" according to his Will I have to add here, since I do not know anything about calling Spirit guides and the like in my own experience.
And so, that is what is called Awakening, and the awakened man rising up to self-consciousness, or Christ Consciousness..until when he finishes his spiritual journey at last his Soul gets united with God.
The Prize..that St. Paul told us about, that we would apprehend by the Grace of God.
And If and when we apprehend. we can then say,
" I and the Father are One".
.Jesus has told us.
P.S. none of this above 'truth" is in anyway takes away from the Redemptive Work that was done on behalf of all people who needed a " Master Physician,.
.and I speak of Jesus the Christ, my beloved.
God bless
and
Peace to all ..
thank you for your response and also for respectably explaining and sharing your thoughts with me and everyone else. Its good to see that theirs still people that can exchange views and beliefs without being stubborn and growing angry. Iv learn in life that most people are not so much listening to you as they are waiting for you to shut up so that they can speak. Its very sad how ignorance blinds the mind in this day and age. I just wanted to say thank you for the way you responded, if only all could be more level headed
Pantheism is an amazing religion in my point of view.
Deepak Chopra is not a stupid (or satanic) man.
I reccomend you look into it more. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
New Age Cult?
Pantheism is an amazing religion in my point of view.
Deepak Chopra is not a stupid (or satanic) man.
I recommend you look into it more.
Hey, Loma, good to bump into you here on this interesting thread...but..Loma..I can see from your post, that you have completely misunderstood what is written in my post.
the "New Age Cult", was put in quotation marks, to show, that, I, the poster do not share that view at all.
Of course Deepak Chopra is not a stupid (or satanic) man.
No one is saying that here. I myself own all of his books and share a lot of his views.
Far from it...he is quite the Guru to millions after all.including the friend of our Michael Jackson.
What my post was saying is,quite the contrary than what I believe you understood.
I was saying, we need to respect all the different approaches the various cultures of this world teach as the way to approach or believe in God.
As for Pantheism, I find nothing wrong with that approach to God.To me, it is just another "Approach"to same Creator.
.The true Creator of the UNIVERSE, knows all, and looks at all,
LOL, I am sure he does not mind us humans, giving all our different approaches and beliefs in Him,all kinds of different names, and also clothing it in various ideas and philosophies..and so on..
In the End,IMO, and belief,
He is still and remains to be the Source of All.
So, I say, to each his OWN, and
"Let God be True, and every Man, a Liar"..ha ha.
Pantheism:
Pantheism is the view that the Universe (Nature) and God are identical.[1] Pantheists thus do not believe in a personal, anthropomorphic or creator god. The word derives from the Ancient Greek: πᾶν (pan) meaning ‘all’ and θεός (theos) meaning ‘God’. As such, Pantheism denotes the idea that “God” is best seen as a way of relating to the Universe.[2] Although there are divergences within Pantheism, the central ideas found in almost all versions are the Cosmos as an all-encompassing unity and the sacredness of Nature
Hope, LOMA, we got this misunderstanding clarified.
Just thought I will post a reply to you, cause, I would not want you to walk away misunderstanding the content of my post and all LOL. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Peace.
New Age Cult?
Pantheism is an amazing religion in my point of view.
Deepak Chopra is not a stupid (or satanic) man.
I recommend you look into it more. [size]:)
Hey, Loma, good to bump into you here on this interesting thread...but..Loma..I can see from your post, that you have completely misunderstood what is written in my post.
the "New Age Cult", was put in quotation marks, to show, that, I, the poster do not share that view at all.
Of course Deepak Chopra is not a stupid (or satanic) man.
No one is saying that here. I myself own all of his books and share a lot of his views.
Far from it...he is quite the Guru to millions after all.including the friend of our Michael Jackson.
What my post was saying is,quite the contrary than what I believe you understood.
I was saying, we need to respect all the different approaches the various cultures of this world teach as the way to approach or believe in God.
As for Pantheism, I find nothing wrong with that approach to God.To me, it is just another "Approach"to the same Creator.
.The true Creator of the UNIVERSE, knows all, and looks at all,
LOL, I am sure he does not mind us humans, giving all our different approaches and beliefs in Him,all kinds of different names, and also clothing it in various ideas and philosophies..and so on..
In the End,IMO, and belief,
So, I say, to each his OWN, and
"Let God be True, and every Man, a Liar"..ha ha.
Peace.
Hope, LOMA, we got this misunderstanding clarified.
Just thought I will post a reply to you, cause, I would not want you to walk away misunderstanding the content of my post and all LOL. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Peace.
I don't feel the need to say more, everyone's entitled to have their own beliefs. I believe in the power of The Truth (God), the real one, that is to say not subject to subjectivity. The Truth is universal, it will definitely prevail and when I say that I mean that it will be so obvious, overwhelming, that nobody will be able to deny it, everybody will acknowledge it. Bearing this in mind I live my faith peacefully without forcing people to accept it, without trying to impose it as the ultimate truth to anyone.
The only thing I allow myself to do, and this is an exercise of self-control, is to say what I think, to express my viewpoint, share my belief with others and how I interpret things, always mentionning (at least always trying to mention) "I believe" "My faith" etc. Bottom line is that everyone has his/her own understanding and beliefs and can express them in peace to be discussed peacefully...until The Time comes for The Truth to shine.
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Sorry. Sometimes I get riled up and adress the non-existant haters. <!-- s
I've had a bad experience so far in discussing religion with closed-minded people.
Hate to see that person address it as a cult. -.-
Although.. They do believe "god" is all and.. "god" is not a thing that's able to make decisions..
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Supervision, I was agreeing with you!
Sorry. Sometimes I get riled up and adress the non-existant haters. <!-- s
I've had a bad experience so far in discussing religion with closed-minded people.
Hate to see that person address it as a cult. -.-
My Girl..got to be on the lookout for the Religious Bandits, who try to hoard and monopolize God...ha ha. <!-- s
It is all good now, I knew you just misunderstood, but it was funny the way you came out swinging. <!-- s
God bless you Loma.. do not forget to come and see us at Visions from Michael..
LOve
and Peace.
@Sarahli
[quote][/quote]@ by Sarahli » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:54 am
I too believe that there can't possibly be ONLY ONE way to God, the Creator of ALL things. To me it's pretty obvious but this is only what I believe.
Sure you are correct Sarahli, and No, you and I are not going to have our second round debate over "Religion" and "God' about your post this time,though I enjoyed the last give and take with you.. ha ha.. <!-- s
God bless you.Sarahli
Peace..
@Kap93
P.s. Kap93..am trying to find time to answer your post. Gee, we are pretty busy at Visions from Mike..and yes, you should definitely stop by and bless us with your visions.
Interesting that you also have been touched "by the Holy Spirit"..so we need more folks like you there , so pls. come by and engage us there. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I will post something as follow up to our discussion later, if time permits. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Peace.
The "antiChrist" concept will only be valid within the Christian beliefs and communities.
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Sigh... we have been lied to for CENTURIES, it's all been to control the masses , by power money and greed.. I mean come on, you got the pope sticking up for child molesters and I won't even get started on that, seeing Vatican city is so rich it's sickening, and they really care about the poor and the suffering.This has been along time coming "Genocide" LOL.. sounds like another scare tactic, so the "truth" won't be found out!!!! These man made reglions are why wars are fought, ppl die for it, and it should not be that way.. we all have free will and if I wanna believe a little green man is my God then so bit.. ( i rly don't think that lol)
See what I mean though? Where do you think we came from? Do you rly believe in Adam and Eve? The women made him evil, ( sounds like a set up for us evil women how make men do bad things)come on... okay enough I will not keep going you get the idea, lol
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