The Fake Search Warrent's

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  • mjboogiemjboogie Posts: 1,067
    Hmmmmm interesting! Especially the part about the two days before MJ's death when Murray supposedly started the medications? I thought Murray gave MJ his first dose of medicines at about 1:30 AM?[/band so on and so on? The way that particular search warrant reads it is describing MUrray as giving MJ the medications over a two day period? Could these documents be typos? I mean one is stamped ET and the other is stamped TMZ? Would this make them unofficial documents? Are there errors allowed on search warrants? If so to what extent? Also this sorta reminds me of MJ's driver saying that he drove MJ to his last rehearsel two days prior to the 25th? You get me? Something aint right! Lets research this a bit more. The search warrants see what we can find. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> I wish I could find the article featuring the interview of MJ's driver stating this. But also to debunk that driver Mj had many drivers just as he had many bodyguards I am sure right? Go team!! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> ]
  • ChristianaChristiana Posts: 626
    I mean one is stamped ET and the other is stamped TMZ? Would this make them unofficial documents? Are there errors allowed on search warrants? If so to what extent?


    Those "stamps" are just watermarks on the digital images, not on the documents themselves.
  • mjboogiemjboogie Posts: 1,067
    Oh. Gee thanks. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • Wizard of OzWizard of Oz Posts: 75
    i can't find that articla either <!-- s:-( -->:-(<!-- s:-( -->
  • foralltimeforalltime Posts: 67
    First of all let me say that i have no intention to offend anyone in anyway,these are just my findings in the investigation of what might have been going on prior to the death of mr.Michael Jackson. Maybe the rumors about the health situation of mr. Michael Jackson were not false. Because the medication on the warrent is also used to people who are terminal ill. It's used for palliative sedation to comfort the patent in there last days. That might explain why "dr.Murray" started the treament 2 days prior to the death of mr. Michael Jackson. it also could explain why nobody wants to sign the DC because i think it is illegal in the US to end live this way.(i know that the state of Oregon is the only state that has laws for euthanasia witch is different to palliative sedation).IMO I think this is why everbody is acting so weird because this would give alot problems for the family and everybody else who is involved.

    I sure hope i'm wrong because if this is what might happend he is really gone. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->

    Help me out please what do you think ?
  • THE JACKSONOLOGISTTHE JACKSONOLOGIST Posts: 1,304
    First of all let me say that i have no intention to offend anyone in anyway,these are just my findings in the investigation of what might have been going on prior to the death of mr.Michael Jackson. Maybe the rumors about the health situation of mr. Michael Jackson were not false. Because the medication on the warrent is also used to people who are terminal ill. It's used for palliative sedation to comfort the patent in there last days. That might explain why "dr.Murray" started the treament 2 days prior to the death of mr. Michael Jackson. it also could explain why nobody wants to sign the DC because i think it is illegal in the US to end live this way.(i know that the state of Oregon is the only state that has laws for euthanasia witch is different to palliative sedation).IMO I think this is why everbody is acting so weird because this would give alot problems for the family and everybody else who is involved.

    I sure hope i'm wrong because if this is what might happend he is really gone. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->

    Help me out please what do you think ?


    You mean Assisted Suicide? Suicide IS illegal, but since the person who committed it is dead then no one can be charged...its a victimless crime. However someone who assists in a suicide is held liable.....
  • serendipityserendipity Posts: 143
    I'm re-posting this vid from another thread...It's all about the FAKE SEARCH WARRANTS...

    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG48eRv9KnI<!-- m -->
  • foralltimeforalltime Posts: 67
    You mean Assisted Suicide? Suicide IS illegal, but since the person who committed it is dead then no one can be charged...its a victimless crime. However someone who assists in a suicide is held liable.....[/quote]

    If that's how you name it in the US that's what i mean.
    Can you tell me how long a person can be held liable ?
    Is that for live ?
    What if there is no proof of assist.
    still have alot of questions becauase i'm not familiar with the US laws.
  • foralltimeforalltime Posts: 67
    I hope you are wrong too, but if you are right it could explain why they waited so long to call 911.
    They wanted to make sure he couldn't be revived..

    Huh, scary to think about.. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->[/quote]

    That was one of the reasons why i started my investigation. The 911 call and there are lots of more things. What about no doctor signing the DC,( if they did they would be involved) Why the search for the farmacy who provided the medication. (does this not go by the opium law in your country) if so this then would defenatly had some registration some where.
    But I really hope i'm wrong.
  • live~love~laugh~mjlive~love~laugh~mj Posts: 125
    Euthanasia is illegal in every state in the US, including Oregon. Euthanasia is when a doctor injects a patient with a lethal dosage of medication to cause death. In 1997, Oregon passed the Death with Dignity act. A physician for the purpose of death prescribes a medicine that the patient will administer to theirself. The law does not require the presence of a physician when a patient takes the lethal medication. A physician may be present if the patient wishes, but it is against the law for him to administer it. So if Murray administered it and he killed Michael he would be held liable. So murray admits to giving the medication but he is not charged with anything it just does not make any sense
  • Unknown
    Did Murray pull a "Jack Kevorkian"????....lol
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    First of all let me say that i have no intention to offend anyone in anyway,these are just my findings in the investigation of what might have been going on prior to the death of mr.Michael Jackson. Maybe the rumors about the health situation of mr. Michael Jackson were not false. Because the medication on the warrent is also used to people who are terminal ill. It's used for palliative sedation to comfort the patent in there last days. That might explain why "dr.Murray" started the treament 2 days prior to the death of mr. Michael Jackson. it also could explain why nobody wants to sign the DC because i think it is illegal in the US to end live this way.(i know that the state of Oregon is the only state that has laws for euthanasia witch is different to palliative sedation).IMO I think this is why everbody is acting so weird because this would give alot problems for the family and everybody else who is involved.

    I sure hope i'm wrong because if this is what might happend he is really gone. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->

    Help me out please what do you think ?

    I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE CASE HERE...
    WE SAW HIM ON THIS IS IT ON 23TH, RIGHT?
    I THINK HE DON'T DO THIS BECAUSE OF HIS CHILDREN, THEY ARE HIS LIFE...
    HE DON'T DO THIS IN HIS HOUSE WITH THE KIDS THERE...
    <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • live~love~laugh~mjlive~love~laugh~mj Posts: 125
    Did Murray pull a "Jack Kevorkian"????....lol
    If he did he would spend time just like Jack has done
  • Secret DoveSecret Dove Posts: 412
    I THINK HE DON'T DO THIS BECAUSE OF HIS CHILDREN, THEY ARE HIS LIFE...
    HE DON'T DO THIS IN HIS HOUSE WITH THE KIDS THERE...
    <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    Severe depressions can make you think that everybody is better off without you, even your children.
    We don't know if he was that depressed, but he sure had been trough hell and back a few times in his life. And we also know he felt lonely to the teeth..

    Allthough this is very sad theory of what might have happening, I don't think we should discard it to fast.
    We wan't to know the truth and what went on, right? We need to investigate into things we don't like as well as into things/theory's we hope are the truth.

    I agree with you. Depression can make you think everybody is better off without you. If Michael was very depressed, he might've thought his family, friends, fans & his children would be better off without him. It's hard to think that he might of thought that, but if he was depressed it could've clouded up his thinking. Yes, he has been through hell and back a few times in his life. There's only so much a person can take without breaking down.

    If you remember back in 2003 Michael almost died of a Demerol overdose. According to what I read, he was so depressed that he accidently gave himself too much Demerol. Randy found him unconscious in bed. Randy called his doctor and his doctor told him that his body would take care of the excess medication and Michael would be fine. Michael was very lucky that he survived the overdose, we could've lost him back then.

    I also agree that we have to look into every theory that's possible. We shouldn't throw out a theory because it's not something we want to think happened or is too sad to talk about. I know this theory is a sad one, but it could turn out that it's the truth. I really hope it's not.
    Unfortunately none of us where with Michael on June 25th. We don't have a way of knowing what really happened that day. Right now the only think we can do is investigate, talk about different theories while we wait for the truth to come out. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
  • dragonflyliliesdragonflylilies Posts: 608
    It is so sad to think that Michael would end his own life. I don't believe he would do such a thing. He held too much belief in the all mighty and he knew that would be the ultimate sin that could never be forgiven. He lived his life for children, not just his, but the world's children, for mine and yours. He could not leave us that way. A person that is in a deep depression would not have been able to function, let alone rehearse for a concert. A person that is on the verge of taking one's own life would not talk of the future. Michael talked of the future in the movie. Michael made plans. I am still in belief that he had to fake his death so that he could survive. I don't pay attention to what some of the people that were around him say. Yes, he was thin, but he has always been thin. I don't believe that he had a dependency of perscription drugs. He might have needed help to get to sleep, but who doesn't. I need that help from time to time. Some people choose to take a different route to get to sleep. Some, take OTC medication, meditate, drink teas or drink alcohol. There is way too many doubts in my mind that would make me believe that he is physically gone from us.
  • foralltimeforalltime Posts: 67
    [Allthough this is very sad theory of what might have happening, I don't think we should discard it to fast.
    We wan't to know the truth and what went on, right? We need to investigate into things we don't like as well as into things/theory's we hope are the truth.[/quote]

    I now this is a very sad theory but i just had to point it out.
    The only thing we want is the truth.
    Thank you for understanding me.
  • foralltimeforalltime Posts: 67
    It is so sad to think that Michael would end his own life. I don't believe he would do such a thing. He held too much belief in the all mighty and he knew that would be the ultimate sin that could never be forgiven. He lived his life for children, not just his, but the world's children, for mine and yours. He could not leave us that way. A person that is in a deep depression would not have been able to function, let alone rehearse for a concert. A person that is on the verge of taking one's own life would not talk of the future. Michael talked of the future in the movie. Michael made plans. I am still in belief that he had to fake his death so that he could survive. I don't pay attention to what some of the people that were around him say. Yes, he was thin, but he has always been thin. I don't believe that he had a dependency of perscription drugs. He might have needed help to get to sleep, but who doesn't. I need that help from time to time. Some people choose to take a different route to get to sleep. Some, take OTC medication, meditate, drink teas or drink alcohol. There is way too many doubts in my mind that would make me believe that he is physically gone from us.

    I hope that i'm wrong, but but please don't be mad asking you this: what if he was not depressed but so very ill up to a point that there was no way he could be well again and was in pain would that not be an act of love to his childeren and family.
  • foralltimeforalltime Posts: 67
    What about his family? Does anything we have found out here fit in? Their behaviours and actions?
    This is perhaps a subject where we need to take some time off to think it through, before jumping to conclusions. But definately something we need to talk about, even though it is difficult.[/quote]

    Maybe that's why we did not see the tears and the emotions we wanted to see. Because they have had the time to say goodbye at their own time in the privacy together with the people he wanted by his side.
    And yes it is difficult to talk about it.
    But all we want is the truth don't we <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
  • LLJLLJ Posts: 140
    I hope someone has something to say real soon to proof this is not true.?
  • foralltimeforalltime Posts: 67
    I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE CASE HERE...
    WE SAW HIM ON THIS IS IT ON 23TH, RIGHT?
    I THINK HE DON'T DO THIS BECAUSE OF HIS CHILDREN, THEY ARE HIS LIFE...
    HE DON'T DO THIS IN HIS HOUSE WITH THE KIDS THERE...
    <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->[/quote]

    Why the rolling eyes <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
    Where you with him when he died <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
    It's just a theory all for the truth remember.
  • KirscheKirsche Posts: 2,082
    yeah it's pretty hard to talk about this..


    But was Michael really that depressed? IDK the few last videos of him we saw and the pictures of him doesn't seem to me that he was depressed....but otherwise, Michael is/was a good actor..


    I also hope we'll find a proof against this suicide-theory...
  • THE JACKSONOLOGISTTHE JACKSONOLOGIST Posts: 1,304
    You mean Assisted Suicide? Suicide IS illegal, but since the person who committed it is dead then no one can be charged...its a victimless crime. However someone who assists in a suicide is held liable.....

    If that's how you name it in the US that's what i mean.
    Can you tell me how long a person can be held liable ?
    Is that for live ?
    What if there is no proof of assist.
    still have alot of questions becauase i'm not familiar with the US laws.[/quote]


    Assisted Suicide is a hot topic in the US. Some people believe it to be ethical, others do not.
    As far "proof" of an assisted suicide....Im not sure about that one....like I said....its a big debate here in the US. There are cases where someone is going to die and will never be cured of what is killing them and the person believes they have a "right to die". So they feel they should be allowed to be given a lethal dose of prescription drugs, prescribed by a doctor, to end their life so they dont have to suffer anymore.
    you can look up "assisted suicide" on google and a ton of articles come up if you would like to read.

    I do not think Dr Murray assisted in MJ's suicide...for the record.
  • foralltimeforalltime Posts: 67
    You mean Assisted Suicide? Suicide IS illegal, but since the person who committed it is dead then no one can be charged...its a victimless crime. However someone who assists in a suicide is held liable.....

    If that's how you name it in the US that's what i mean.
    Can you tell me how long a person can be held liable ?
    Is that for live ?
    What if there is no proof of assist.
    still have alot of questions becauase i'm not familiar with the US laws.


    Assisted Suicide is a hot topic in the US. Some people believe it to be ethical, others do not.
    As far "proof" of an assisted suicide....Im not sure about that one....like I said....its a big debate here in the US. There are cases where someone is going to die and will never be cured of what is killing them and the person believes they have a "right to die". So they feel they should be allowed to be given a lethal dose of prescription drugs, prescribed by a doctor, to end their life so they dont have to suffer anymore.
    you can look up "assisted suicide" on google and a ton of articles come up if you would like to read.

    I do not think Dr Murray assisted in MJ's suicide...for the record.[/quote]

    Thank you for the explanation i am going to google.
    I'm not accusing anyone or anbody, i'm not a judgemental person. Just trying to get as much info on everything regarding my theory.
    And so far your the only one who could help me out so thanks again.
  • InfinityladyInfinitylady Posts: 1,006
    Secret Dove
    agree with you. Depression can make you think everybody is better off without you. If Michael was very depressed, he might've thought his family, friends, fans & his children would be better off without him. It's hard to think that he might of thought that, but if he was depressed it could've clouded up his thinking. Yes, he has been through hell and back a few times in his life. There's only so much a person can take without breaking down.[/quote]
    But wasn't on one of the tapes he mentioned he was afraid of getting old. He mentioned also on the private home vids about living. I have to go back to listen to the vid again.

    I do agree that he may have become depressed as it can effect anyone of us on any level it's just hard to say that he would do anything like this.
  • WildyWildy Posts: 274
    It's pretty sad to read this <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> So is it true that Michael said this?
    "On June 21, Jackson told my contact that he wanted to die. He said that he didn’t have what it would take to perform any more because he had lost his voice and dance moves."It’s not working out", Jackson said. "I’m better off dead. I don’t have anywhere left to turn. I’m done".Michael’s closest confidante told me just two hours after he died that Michael was tired of living. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->

    I can't (and don't want to) believe it !!! <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... s-ago.html<!-- m -->
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