TIAI November 3

AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
edited January 1970 in TIAI
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Everybody is talking about MAKING A CHANGE, but nobody is talking about how we are going to make it. We should have a plan, we should organize things! What are we going to do? How are we going to make that change? I see everyone writes it everywhere; Let's make a change, help others, save the world etc. But I wish I could see the same effort in DOING things as in writing it. This forum shouldn't stay as a hoax forum only, this forum has to be the center of that change! If we are the Army of LOVE, if we are the ones who will start to make that change, then we should start talking about how we are going to make it! We have to MOVE TOGETHER! For example, we should start doing something all together as members of this forum, as soldiers of Michael Jackson. We tried to tell the media about the hoax and it didn't work out. We tried to tell non-believers about the truth and it didn't work out as well. Is this it? Are we going to sit back and wait till Michael comes back? I know that Michael's return is a must for us to spread the message to everyone but I believe that there're things that we can do before and after his return. I don't want the things that we talk we're going to do, to stay on the forum only but we DO them for real! I know that almost all of us, or maybe all of us try to spread the hidden truth to everyone we know but is it enough? NO! We should do more, we should give more!

How about publishing a Newspaper and deliver it to people at the streets? How about starting to choose an orphanage every month and make donations? How about chosing an area and start planting trees?

I know that most of us are trying to do all of these by ourselves and some of us just write what we want to do. But how about making these all together? How about making this forum the center of the CHANGE? We're THOUSANDS of people here! If we unite and dedicate ourselves to make that change for real, we can save the planet, we can save the humanity! It's all for LOVE, it's all for Michael, it's all for us, it's all for the planet! So what do you soldiers say? Are you with me? Are you with Michael? Are you ready to unite, raise your voice and MAKE THAT CHANGE for real?



P.S: Unfortunately I believe that this post of mine will be ignored by most of you. I hope not because seriously we need to start doing serious things instead of sitting and writing them. We need to start making the change right now! So please let's unite and start doing somethings.


Obviously we need to do more. Thanks PureLove for your post and thanks TS for pointing it out to all the TIAI followers!
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  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    I will repost what I said in the redirect 11/2
    I know I am doing what I feel. I talked to people I didn't think I would ever open such a subject with, about how media is nothing but a big organization built upon lies which sells lies, that people have probably no idea about what this means in fact, and how everything they see in the media is distorsioned and is not based on facts in 90% of the cases. I talked about Illuminati and how all this can have deeper roots that people are not aware of. I talked to people about the 11th of September attacks and what could be the lies in it all. I talked about this as a global issue that all people should become aware of or the damage will be irreversible. And the most important part is that they listened and were interested in searching more about it.

    I also had discussions about innocent people being condemned by the public again because of the media's hands.About justice and how it is NOT done.Because media has the power to make the innocent look guilty and the guilty to look innocent because it controls the minds of the masses. I also help as much as I can, making little donations as much as I can afford whenever I can.......to animals who I love with all my heart, or poor old people on the streets.I am not sitting and waiting, I do want with all my heart to make that change...



    I wasn't expecting a redirect at this hour tough...
    I don't know but I feel really down today and lately. It's a pressure that I seem to collapse under it. I don't see anything like others do, I don't take Cirque du Soleil announcement in a good way at all, to me it all sounds like a memorial, and all that is (not) happening. I really seem to collapse for good lately and even if I don't give up, I can't find strenght in almost anything. I don't know how long I could go on like this, for how long. I feel so scared and demoralised, I really don't know ...It's like the longest the time is passing the more I'm afraid I am fooling myself. After 16 months still no sign of him... What else should happen, where are we at? cause I don't seem to find any answer....

  • Yep, I agree, it's time to start some action. We can sit on our asses all day long and just use our fingers to type words to express what should be done, but instead we should actually do something.

    Let's use this thread to post suggestions.
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    I'm in! Great suggestion!

    I think (what we all try to do anyway is just being kind to others as much as possible.

    After that maybe we could all carry our some "Michael acts" like visiting hospitals, or donating time or money to charity?

    It would be cool if we could somehow meet up..I don't think I've ever met another believer..so those in the south of France...give me a shout and we can organise something good!
  • I'm in! Great suggestion!

    I think (what we all try to do anyway is just being kind to others as much as possible.

    After that maybe we could all carry our some "Michael acts" like visiting hospitals, or donating time or money to charity?

    In addition to the above, we also have to spread Michael Jackson's Message... Let's not forget about that.
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    I'm in! Great suggestion!

    I think (what we all try to do anyway is just being kind to others as much as possible.

    After that maybe we could all carry our some "Michael acts" like visiting hospitals, or donating time or money to charity?

    In addition to the above, we also have to spread Michael Jackson's Message... Let's not forget about that.

    You are right.

    Other that what we are doing with social networking sites and and talking to people, do you have any ideas on how to reach the masses?
  • nick_93nick_93 Posts: 269
    Great idea! I have often thought of ways to spread L.O.V.E but never really knew how. I guess I also thought with the not so successful attempts at promoting the hoax to the media that we could make posters like just even A4 sized ones about this place and the hoax etc and we could put them up on street poles, walls and put them in people's letter boxes etc. I guess this redirect/post was also probably more in light of spreading L.O.V.E so maybe even things such as donating to some of the charities Michael supported or having public gatherings in our respected areas to help protest the lack of LOVE in the world and attempt to begin to bring it back. I'm glad it's taken someone with the guts like PureLove to say, hey, enough if enough, let's make that change because now that it's out there and that TS has redirected it, it should be evidence enough, if not already, that this can "mobilize the Army of L.O.V.E" and that we now have to start with the Man in the Mirror and get moving! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • I'm in! Great suggestion!

    I think (what we all try to do anyway is just being kind to others as much as possible.

    After that maybe we could all carry our some "Michael acts" like visiting hospitals, or donating time or money to charity?

    In addition to the above, we also have to spread Michael Jackson's Message... Let's not forget about that.

    You are right.

    Other that what we are doing with social networking sites and and talking to people, do you have any ideas on how to reach the masses?

    Let me sleep on it... I do have some ideas, but I need to think about them and figure out if they are realizable.
  • In as well - I am currently working on trying to get charity goods free of charge from the UK to Africa as I have realised that it would be good to get toys, books, even clothes, some remedies there without having to spent a big portion of donations on transport... My preference is to continue focusing on hanna's orphanage in Ethiopia and maybe one other in a poor country, in the short term.

    Happy to discuss "teaming possibilities"/ideas/scope with other members - I however do not know how many members are genuinely interested in doing something together at the moment. I guess it would need to be relatively simple to start with as we are all scattered around the World and do not know each other.

    Should we start by creating a Charity folder to exchange some views on what could be achieved?

    Those are my thoughts at this stage.

    With L.O.V.E
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    Should we start by creating a Charity folder to exchange some views on what could be achieved?

    That's a good idea, also maybe somehow work out where we are all from and create teams to go out and do stuff?
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403

    Yep, I agree, it's time to start some action. We can sit on our asses all day long and just use our fingers to type words to express what should be done, but instead we should actually do something.

    Let's use this thread to post suggestions.

    I am sure that on a day to day basis people of this forum do some good actions to help healing the world and its inhabitants, humans, plants and animals and spreading whatever message before June 25th 2009 and after...me included <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    I am not sure if this re-direct is meant for people to start healing the world by their own or that the people of this forum should do something jointly to spread awareness or help others "in the name of MJ".
    In the second option, imo, as a suggestion, we could:

    - provide our own expertise in whatever field for free for those who need it
    - provide time to listen to others in need
    - engage in to montly actions like raising fonds for one common cause internationally i.e helping organizations for education within the less benefit communities
    - engage in to any charity action

    All of the above having a common motto: MJ´s speeches or teachings as the source for tolerance and awareness of how to heal the world.

    Even if could have the profile of a cult (community awareess spreading the word of the "leader") it is for a good cause/ "mission".

    I was always in and I will be continuing being in <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

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  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    I think we must concentrate on one objective only and deploy tasks to those willing to participate.
    If everybody does something on his / her own, the impact will not be as important as it has to be.
    There must be a clear definition of what we want to do, how we may achieve this and what it does take to get there. The success must be measurable to be communicable.

    We need some OGSM here.
    Objective (overall vision)
    Goal (target goals)
    Strategies (how to achieve the goals)
    Measurements (indications of how far we already got on our way towards our vision).

    There must be a strong project organization and task deployment with status updates, project plan and ressource management.

    Who are the creative ones that already have a sketch on their mind?
    Who are the networkers in the center of communications?
    Who are the strong organizers amongst us?
    Who are those with spare time, flat rates on telephone lines, free access to ressources?

    Everybody hands up pls. who already knows where his / her talents or capabilities are hidden!
    Those who want to participate but do not know how should be put into country groups or functional groups. We need smaller networks inside of this network that operate efficiently.

    Time to DO.
    We wanna show them talent... <!-- s;-) -->;-)<!-- s;-) -->

    (P.S. some useful techniques for non-profit organizations may be learned from <!-- e --><a href="mailto:heather@diosacommunications.com">heather@diosacommunications.com</a><!-- e --> who sends out interesting newsletters and facts for NGO/NPO.)
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    Thank you TS for redirecting to this important issue. And thank you so much all for writing and contributing to this post. Because this is very important. What I observe is, everyone is talking and writing to do things but how much do we do? Now it is time to act! Now it is time to UNITE and MOVE TOGETHER! Some people say that "some can not do charity and anything about money". Sorry but I do not believe this! If you have money to pay your taxes, if you have money to have an internet access, it means that you have money to donate and to share! Do you have 10$, share 5$ with someone in need. And it doesn't need to be money as I wrote before. Do you have two t-shirts to wear, give one of them to someone who doesn't have any. I'm talking metaphorical but I know you all understand what I mean. It's about sharing, it's about giving! The question is; do you want to give the world more? If the answer is yes, it is easy to find solutions.

    Let's discuss what we could do and then maybe Souza and Mo can post our idea to all members of the forum. And we can make this topic to different parts of the forum for everyone else to see.

    First of, we can start making donations online. RunningGirl did it I think or am I wrong? Maybe she can help us about how she did it. Then we choose an orphanage and do the charity work as the Michael's Soldiers of Love and then we get to another.

    And pls tell me what you think about publishing a Newspaper? Online blogs and forums do not reach to the target we want to. So if we deliver it to people at the streets, especially the youth is very open to new ideas and they are more open minded, I believe that we can spread the message better. I would like to hear your opinions about what you think and from where we can begin making the change. Thank you all so much and God bless.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891

    I am not sure if this re-direct is meant for people to start healing the world by their own or that the people of this forum should do something jointly to spread awareness or help others "in the name of MJ".
    In the second option, imo, as a suggestion, we could:

    Gema my thought when I was writing this post was, I believe that we need to UNITE and do somethings as members of this forum, as soldiers of Michael's army. We can continue doing our personal donations BUT I believe that it would be MORE powerfull and MORE effective if we move TOGETHER! This would be a good example for everyone. Because humanity needs to UNITE to save the humanity and to save the planet! Let's COME TOGETHER! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    In that case may be the 1st step is to start uniting the fans, believers from every side (all the forums that separated from this one) non believers and random people ...and any one on the way! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
    I like it! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • i don't know about anyone else but as for me i want to start by just daily reminding myself to be thankful. i think if i can be thankful and always think of my cup as running over then it won't be hard to give what i need to give to whom i need to give it whenever i need to give it. perhaps we could have a thread to "testify" if you will not about what we have done but how it has affected our own lives in return. and we can encourage each other with that.

    as far as collectively we could have a thread where we can tell each other about different opportunities to lend a hand to a cause if we so chose.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400

    I saw the post and I knew TS would redirect to it, I just didn't expect it this late (or early).There are some legal issues with this site and donations, so that's not an option as long as this site is registered in the US. To avoid that Mo's or my personal info will be all over the net, the site needs to stay in the US. What I can do (and I will in a few minutes) is make a new subforum for charity. As long as we only post links to the websites of the several projects, I think it's fine.

    Some other thoughts (all random, will post more if I think of more):

    1.)- I once watched a video on YouTube and I thought it was a fantastic idea. They printed a fake New York Times that made up good news, to see how people would react. Here is the video:

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    As you can see people get happy from good news, and I think good news should be published more, to bring hope and positiveness back. I don't think we should make something up, but search for the good news (that is mostly somewhere on the last page between some annoying ads), and publish them on a seperate site. One way or another we need to make sure this "good news" site is known world-wide and of course we need someone (or more than one) to manage and update this site. Mo and I have our hands full with this one, so if there are people willing and able to start such a project, shout out! If we link it to this one, we know we won't get the attention we should want, but if we make a seperate site that doesn't have Michael Jackson Death Hoax on the front page, we might get some attention and if we will get lot's of visitors on there, we might even get some income from ads which we can donate to charity. We can post the same on this website, but I think that if the two sites are linked, people would more easily click away. Once people know this is all a hoax and accept its purpose, it wouldn't be a big deal anymore, but before that, my opinion is to keep the sites seperate. We can use this forum to collect the articles, so that the one(s) managing the site can copy and paste it from here. I think that if we also publish good news about celebs (besides all other good news) instead of the gossip and slander we see on Entertainment Something etc., the chances of getting attention will even be bigger. Let me know your thoughts on it.

    2.)- Another idea is to open a thread where people can post their daily good deeds. I always try to do something for someone else each day, whether that is a colleague, a friend or someone at the local supermarket. I think that if people post that in a thread on the forum, it will motivate others to do the same. Even the small things like helping old people cross the street or help your colleague out when he or she is so busy they don't know where to start again.

    3.)- Just an idea when you have to organize a day at work with your colleagues. Instead of going on a survival trip, or something like that, you can do something for someone else. Here in Holland there are foundations that introduce companies to a charity where they can help out, for example taking children that are ill to the zoo, helping out on a farm where they take in abused and sick animals or taking the elderly who are lonely for a day out. Just a few examples of the possibilities. It's fun, good for the teambuilding whithin your company and most of all: you help out. Lots of volunteers rely on donations, but also hard labour is very well appreciated!

    4.)- Many old people are lonely. People take in abandoned animals, adopt children that need a chance in life, but the elderly are often forgotten. Why not adopt a grandma/mother or a grandpa/father who is lonely? Visiting them once a week, doing some groceries for them, taking them out on a trip sometimes and make sure they are not alone with Christmas does a LOT for these people. I think it's shameful that so many old people who made sure we can live the lives we live today, are left behind to die alone.

    5.)- Go through your house and see if you have stuff you haven't used in ages. If you don't use it, you don't need it. Donate it to the Salvation Army, or other organisations like that. Give it to a neighbour or a friend who can use it, or sell it all and donate the money to charity. Your house will be more tidy and someone else is happy, a win-win situation. I am probably moving out of my house soon and my whole basement is full of stuff I haven't used in years. I won't take it with me but donate it to an organisation who will GIVE (not sell) the stuff to people who need it. If you know people in need yourself, go bring it yourself. The happy faces will give you a nice boost and will motivate you to do it more often.

    6.)- For those who dare and are well-spoken; contact your (old) school and ask if you can give a lecture on L.O.V.E. There are many good writers on this board and if some could write a good presentation, we could translate it into our own language and use it. We could represent a non-profit organisation with the same name as the website mentioned in point 1, and draw more attention to it. I must say I don't like to speak in public at all, but if someone would be able to present a fantastic speech, I might grow myself some balls to do it.

    7.)- I think we should choose one or two global charities we will support on this site. Bringing attention to their work by giving them a full page on the website where we explain their work and link to their website. Because I know there are organisations that are not trustworthy, I suggest we take some from the list that Mike supported (as I assume he only gave money to organisations of which he knew would actually use the money for the good) and make a poll or something to choose one or two, so everyone (or most) will agree on it. I say we go for a charity that helps children in need. Not only because they are what Mike has been fighting for his whole life, but because they really are the future, we need to make sure they have one. If we make sure they will have proper education, a loving childhood and healthy food, the rest will get better as well. My hope is that one day we need to open a dictionary or history book to what charity was all about, because we don't need it anymore. Maybe a little too optimistic, but that is how it should be.

    8.)- Last but not least, as we are here because of one person only, we should continue to get Mike's name cleared. I am busy translating the article of Forbes Everett Landis {http://education.ezinemark.com/does-american-dream-have-to-die-with-michael-jackson-16b169402f1.html} to Dutch and I am going to send it, along with an intro, as a letter to every Dutch newspaper, hoping one or more will publish it. Once I finish it, I will post it in a seperate thread, so other Dutch members can use it for whatever necessary. Maybe others can find the time to do the same in their own language.

    Most is what you can do outside this forum, but that is important too. We are from all over the world and all we can do is unite on the net. If we do that well, we could get some serious attention but it starts with us, meaning not just in here as a nickname, but also in our own lives. And we should continue educating others on the hoax and its purpose. No matter how many naysayers you will meet, there will come a time when they will start listening. They are programmed to believe everything the media presents them, deprogramming takes some time, that's one thing I learned the past 16 months.

    So, just some ideas that need to be thought through some more, but I hope people will give some input and thoughts on this.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    I wasn't expecting a redirect at this hour tough...
    I don't know but I feel really down today and lately. It's a pressure that I seem to collapse under it. I don't see anything like others do, I don't take Cirque du Soleil announcement in a good way at all, to me it all sounds like a memorial, and all that is (not) happening. I really seem to collapse for good lately and even if I don't give up, I can't find strenght in almost anything. I don't know how long I could go on like this, for how long. I feel so scared and demoralised, I really don't know ...It's like the longest the time is passing the more I'm afraid I am fooling myself. After 16 months still no sign of him... What else should happen, where are we at? cause I don't seem to find any answer....

    Awww Anna, I totally understand how you feel because that's how I started to feel too after the Oprah airing Molesting kids issue, the family says the new album is a fraud. I do not understand what the point is in all of these. And I wish TS could make a post (not an update but a post) and explain us what the purpose of all of this in the hoax is. I do not forget the clues and facts we have found and TS has given to us, and those are what make me keep on beliving Michael is alive. But all of the latest news confused me LOTS. And I do feel the same with you about CDS. It never excited me. If CDS is going to end their show at the end of 2012, then when is Michael coming back? I don't believe that he will show up with the circus. I don't know what to make of these.

    BUT, there is a BUT here. I do not believe it but even if Michael is gone (my heart screams: "Ohh God NOOOO!!!"), we should keep on doing good things to make the change. I know the feeling when you do not want to do anything even for yourself but we can not give up! We have to move on and do what we have to do! Doesn't it make you feel so much better when you help someone? When you feed a hungry child or a hungry animal, you feed your soul with happiness and serenity. That's what makes me the happiest! To help others, to do something good for this world. And once more, even if Michael is gone which I do not believe, he would want us to make this change. Don't you think so? I wish I could comfort you but I'm as confused as you are with the latest news. But they shouldn't stop us. Stay with us please. We need to stick together. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210

    I am not sure if this re-direct is meant for people to start healing the world by their own or that the people of this forum should do something jointly to spread awareness or help others "in the name of MJ".
    In the second option, imo, as a suggestion, we could:

    Gema my thought when I was writing this post was, I believe that we need to UNITE and do somethings as members of this forum, as soldiers of Michael's army. We can continue doing our personal donations BUT I believe that it would be MORE powerfull and MORE effective if we move TOGETHER! This would be a good example for everyone. Because humanity needs to UNITE to save the humanity and to save the planet! Let's COME TOGETHER! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->


    I think it means we need to show the world that Michael Jacksons Army of Love has a voice. The world doesn't know we exist. I think we should raise awareness. Show the world that we do care, and we are here. Our numbers will grow once people hear about it.

    It has nothing to do with being a believer or not. This is about a group of people who want to spread the Message to the world, that we must love oneanother .

    The Army of Love......Join the Army...We need you...Lets help spread and continue Michaels Message....xoxoxo
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    I guess I also thought with the not so successful attempts at promoting the hoax to the media that we could make posters like just even A4 sized ones about this place and the hoax etc and we could put them up on street poles, walls and put them in people's letter boxes etc.

    Good idea Nick. Your idea is a good one for the start. But I still believe that a Newspaper which contains news about the MJ hoax death and the illuminati and NWO would be way so much better and more effective. We're people from all around the world which means we can spread the message to the entire world. Is there someone here who knows how much it costs to publish a newspaper with a couple of pages?
  • I've been suggesting this for a little while but we should have a section for LOVE. IF we are saying we are the Army of Love, then why not have a whole section for it? It can be filled with inspirational quotes, monthly donation drives (to a specific charity), spirituality can fit in here too, inspirational stories, tips on eating healthier, exercise, ways on living a better life, tips on parenting, videos, songs, etc. This is a very simple way to build the morale up overall in this message board. Not saying we have a poor morale but we can even bring ourselves even more higher than where we are with positive energy. Certain posters are proof of this. I would then suggest, like I said, having monthly donation drives, simple weekly missions (like tell someone how much you love him or her or learn about the basic layout of your government), daily encouragement. Now this may seem small to some folks but I think the simpler the better. It is easier to manage and it won't put so much pressure on us individually because sometimes too much pressure causes us to break. And I think in order to be invincible, we got to keep it simple. Oh look at that, I rhymed. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Well on that note, I am glad that TS brought this to light and I hope this is a start to something really awesome.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    In as well - I am currently working on trying to get charity goods free of charge from the UK to Africa as I have realised that it would be good to get toys, books, even clothes, some remedies there without having to spent a big portion of donations on transport... My preference is to continue focusing on hanna's orphanage in Ethiopia and maybe one other in a poor country, in the short term.

    Happy to discuss "teaming possibilities"/ideas/scope with other members - I however do not know how many members are genuinely interested in doing something together at the moment. I guess it would need to be relatively simple to start with as we are all scattered around the World and do not know each other.

    Should we start by creating a Charity folder to exchange some views on what could be achieved?

    Those are my thoughts at this stage.

    With L.O.V.E


    YAAAY RunningGirl is here. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> I knew that it was you who made that charity to that orphanage. I think you can help us about how we do it online? I believe that many members of the forum would join this movement if we let them all know about it. And I think we need to create a "MAKE THAT CHANGE" folder. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> For now we can share our opinions here and then we can make this post on different parts of the forum.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I guess I also thought with the not so successful attempts at promoting the hoax to the media that we could make posters like just even A4 sized ones about this place and the hoax etc and we could put them up on street poles, walls and put them in people's letter boxes etc.

    Good idea Nick. Your idea is a good one for the start. But I still believe that a Newspaper which contains news about the MJ hoax death and the illuminati and NWO would be way so much better and more effective. We're people from all around the world which means we can spread the message to the entire world. Is there someone here who knows how much it costs to publish a newspaper with a couple of pages?


    More than you might think. I think the idea of some kind of news letter is great, but we can't manage and distribute this globally. We don't have the financial and logistic means for that. What we can do is something like with the website I mentioned in point 1 in my previous post; start a thread where we collect stuff about this subject; articles, news reports of the week where we explain what is fasle and true, etc. I don't mind making a pdf file of it weekly, which people can print and spread.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    I think we must concentrate on one objective only and deploy tasks to those willing to participate.
    If everybody does something on his / her own, the impact will not be as important as it has to be.
    There must be a clear definition of what we want to do, how we may achieve this and what it does take to get there. The success must be measurable to be communicable.

    We need some OGSM here.
    Objective (overall vision)
    Goal (target goals)
    Strategies (how to achieve the goals)
    Measurements (indications of how far we already got on our way towards our vision).

    There must be a strong project organization and task deployment with status updates, project plan and ressource management.

    Who are the creative ones that already have a sketch on their mind?
    Who are the networkers in the center of communications?
    Who are the strong organizers amongst us?
    Who are those with spare time, flat rates on telephone lines, free access to ressources?

    Everybody hands up pls. who already knows where his / her talents or capabilities are hidden!
    Those who want to participate but do not know how should be put into country groups or functional groups. We need smaller networks inside of this network that operate efficiently.

    Time to DO.
    We wanna show them talent... <!-- s;-) -->;-)<!-- s;-) -->

    (P.S. some useful techniques for non-profit organizations may be learned from <!-- e --><a href="mailto:heather@diosacommunications.com">heather@diosacommunications.com</a><!-- e --> who sends out interesting newsletters and facts for NGO/NPO.)


    Amazing post Grace. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> I liked the idea of OGSM. And that web-page is very informative. Thank you for sharing.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891

    I saw the post and I knew TS would redirect to it, I just didn't expect it this late (or early).There are some legal issues with this site and donations, so that's not an option as long as this site is registered in the US. To avoid that Mo's or my personal info will be all over the net, the site needs to stay in the US. What I can do (and I will in a few minutes) is make a new subforum for charity. As long as we only post links to the websites of the several projects, I think it's fine.

    Souza, this place will be the center of the change. We will discuss what to and how to do here. For instance if we find a place to make our donations, we bring it at the top of the list. Give the link to the members and how they can make the donation. So there won't be any problems with the forum.
    Some other thoughts (all random, will post more if I think of more):

    1.)- I once watched a video on YouTube and I thought it was a fantastic idea. They printed a fake New York Times that made up good news, to see how people would react. Here is the video:

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    As you can see people get happy from good news, and I think good news should be published more, to bring hope and positiveness back. I don't think we should make something up, but search for the good news (that is mostly somewhere on the last page between some annoying ads), and publish them on a seperate site. One way or another we need to make sure this "good news" site is known world-wide and of course we need someone (or more than one) to manage and update this site. Mo and I have our hands full with this one, so if there are people willing and able to start such a project, shout out! If we link it to this one, we know we won't get the attention we should want, but if we make a seperate site that doesn't have Michael Jackson Death Hoax on the front page, we might get some attention and if we will get lot's of visitors on there, we might even get some income from ads which we can donate to charity. We can post the same on this website, but I think that if the two sites are linked, people would more easily click away. Once people know this is all a hoax and accept its purpose, it wouldn't be a big deal anymore, but before that, my opinion is to keep the sites seperate. We can use this forum to collect the articles, so that the one(s) managing the site can copy and paste it from here. I think that if we also publish good news about celebs (besides all other good news) instead of the gossip and slander we see on Entertainment Something etc., the chances of getting attention will even be bigger. Let me know your thoughts on it.

    This is a good idea but I'm not so sure if we can get people's attention. We need to create such a very detailed web-page and I don't know if we can do it. But still this is a good idea.

    2.)- Another idea is to open a thread where people can post their daily good deeds. I always try to do something for someone else each day, whether that is a colleague, a friend or someone at the local supermarket. I think that if people post that in a thread on the forum, it will motivate others to do the same. Even the small things like helping old people cross the street or help your colleague out when he or she is so busy they don't know where to start again.

    3.)- Just an idea when you have to organize a day at work with your colleagues. Instead of going on a survival trip, or something like that, you can do something for someone else. Here in Holland there are foundations that introduce companies to a charity where they can help out, for example taking children that are ill to the zoo, helping out on a farm where they take in abused and sick animals or taking the elderly who are lonely for a day out. Just a few examples of the possibilities. It's fun, good for the teambuilding whithin your company and most of all: you help out. Lots of volunteers rely on donations, but also hard labour is very well appreciated!

    4.)- Many old people are lonely. People take in abandoned animals, adopt children that need a chance in life, but the elderly are often forgotten. Why not adopt a grandma/mother or a grandpa/father who is lonely? Visiting them once a week, doing some groceries for them, taking them out on a trip sometimes and make sure they are not alone with Christmas does a LOT for these people. I think it's shameful that so many old people who made sure we can live the lives we live today, are left behind to die alone.

    5.)- Go through your house and see if you have stuff you haven't used in ages. If you don't use it, you don't need it. Donate it to the Salvation Army, or other organisations like that. Give it to a neighbour or a friend who can use it, or sell it all and donate the money to charity. Your house will be more tidy and someone else is happy, a win-win situation. I am probably moving out of my house soon and my whole basement is full of stuff I haven't used in years. I won't take it with me but donate it to an organisation who will GIVE (not sell) the stuff to people who need it. If you know people in need yourself, go bring it yourself. The happy faces will give you a nice boost and will motivate you to do it more often.

    6.)- For those who dare and are well-spoken; contact your (old) school and ask if you can give a lecture on L.O.V.E. There are many good writers on this board and if some could write a good presentation, we could translate it into our own language and use it. We could represent a non-profit organisation with the same name as the website mentioned in point 1, and draw more attention to it. I must say I don't like to speak in public at all, but if someone would be able to present a fantastic speech, I might grow myself some balls to do it.


    7.)- I think we should choose one or two global charities we will support on this site. Bringing attention to their work by giving them a full page on the website where we explain their work and link to their website. Because I know there are organisations that are not trustworthy, I suggest we take some from the list that Mike supported (as I assume he only gave money to organisations of which he knew would actually use the money for the good) and make a poll or something to choose one or two, so everyone (or most) will agree on it. I say we go for a charity that helps children in need. Not only because they are what Mike has been fighting for his whole life, but because they really are the future, we need to make sure they have one. If we make sure they will have proper education, a loving childhood and healthy food, the rest will get better as well. My hope is that one day we need to open a dictionary or history book to what charity was all about, because we don't need it anymore. Maybe a little too optimistic, but that is how it should be.

    8.)- Last but not least, as we are here because of one person only, we should continue to get Mike's name cleared. I am busy translating the article of Forbes Everett Landis {http://education.ezinemark.com/does-american-dream-have-to-die-with-michael-jackson-16b169402f1.html} to Dutch and I am going to send it, along with an intro, as a letter to every Dutch newspaper, hoping one or more will publish it. Once I finish it, I will post it in a seperate thread, so other Dutch members can use it for whatever necessary. Maybe others can find the time to do the same in their own language.

    Most is what you can do outside this forum, but that is important too. We are from all over the world and all we can do is unite on the net. If we do that well, we could get some serious attention but it starts with us, meaning not just in here as a nickname, but also in our own lives. And we should continue educating others on the hoax and its purpose. No matter how many naysayers you will meet, there will come a time when they will start listening. They are programmed to believe everything the media presents them, deprogramming takes some time, that's one thing I learned the past 16 months.

    So, just some ideas that need to be thought through some more, but I hope people will give some input and thoughts on this.

    These are all we can do personally but this movement has to be done together. That is the reason why I made the post. We should unite and do things all together. Because when we say, "we will do it personally", most of us do NOTHING but just keep on writing or we delay it and then forget about it. So we should do it together,and we should start doing it right now. Of course we will continue doing our personal charities and etc but we need to start a movement in which people come together and start making the change.
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    All the suggestions are here are excellent! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
    There are so many things that we can all do to make the world a better place by spreading Michael's message and making people aware of media lies. I myself try to debunk at least one story everyday that is in mainstream media - it's not that hard <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> and then I try to tell people I work with, my family, friends, etc. With the little bit of research I do, I'm able to backup the "de-bunking" and I know for a fact that it is starting to have an effect on some people, they are starting to realize we are fed lies on a daily basis.
    I submitted this article {http://education.ezinemark.com/does-american-dream-have-to-die-with-michael-jackson-16b169402f1.html} to my local newspaper (in the Letters to the Editor section) and they printed it! The responses were generally quite positive, although there was one older gentlemen who didn't like it (but I notice he doesn't like much of anything - he writes to the paper on an almost daily basis).
    I also smile at a stranger everyday <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> and will engage someone I don't know in conversation if I have the opportunity. People are so receptive to a smile and some genuine friendliness. And it can literally be anybody you might bump into during course of your day.
    I volunteer at a hospital, about twice a month is what I have time for. What I do there is sit with people (one on one) who have a terminal illness or condition. Sometimes people facing their own mortality can't open up to their loved ones about what they are going through for fear of hurting them. It is a VERY HARD thing to do and I always am crying on the drive home but if I helped that person vocalize something they feel is important then it's definitely worth it. A lot of these people feel closer to God in their final days and I've even had one odd experience where the person seems to be in two places at once - like he was caught between life and what comes after. This type of volunteer work isn't for everyone but I do think volunteering in any way you can to any type of organization that helps people or animals is so worth it - for you and for them.

    People respond to kindness and love which I think we're all capable of giving. We just also need to incorporate and spread the truth instead of the media lies.
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