Is Al Qaeda real? YOU decide...

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edited January 1970 in General Discussion
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  • There is no such thing as AL QAEDA or OSAMA BIN LADEN, or the terrorists who supposedly attacked the world trade centers, it is all a lie!
    Muslims are the victims of hate today because everyone else in history has been hated BEFORE except Muslims, so that was their only option to target the Muslims, do you all really believe a Muslim would do such a thing?
  • frogh777frogh777 Posts: 711
    There is no such thing as AL QAEDA or OSAMA BIN LADEN, or the terrorists who supposedly attacked the world trade centers, it is all a lie!
    Muslims are the victims of hate today because everyone else in history has been hated BEFORE except Muslims, so that was their only option to target the Muslims, do you all really believe a Muslim would do such a thing?
    Never..
    like in the movie V for Vendetta.. They say the Kuran is the most beautiful book, but it is forbidden. I think people should read more about the Islam, cuz its really a nice religion.
  • They say the Kuran is the most beautiful book, but it is forbidden
    I didn't get what you said ! It's beautiful and forbidden at the same time ? Can you please explain <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
  • frogh777frogh777 Posts: 711
    They say the Kuran is the most beautiful book, but it is forbidden
    I didn't get what you said ! It's beautiful and forbidden at the same time ? Can you please explain <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
    there is this man, who has several forbidden objects in his house, including a kuran. In the time that the story is playing in the movie, they (nwo/illuminati) hate the Islam and they banned the kuran.
    u really should watch the movie.. its based on a real story, more than u should think!
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    Correct me if I am wrong but the translation of Al-Caida from Arabic to english means informer.

    Al-caida exists as an organization but many of the crimes that are pointed towards them are not real imo.
  • They say the Kuran is the most beautiful book, but it is forbidden
    I didn't get what you said ! It's beautiful and forbidden at the same time ? Can you please explain <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
    there is this man, who has several forbidden objects in his house, including a kuran. In the time that the story is playing in the movie, they (nwo/illuminati) hate the Islam and they banned the kuran.
    u really should watch the movie.. its based on a real story, more than u should think!
    Ok, thanks ! Ok I plan to watch it <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • MJFAN7MJFAN7 Posts: 3,063
    There is no such thing as AL QAEDA or OSAMA BIN LADEN, or the terrorists who supposedly attacked the world trade centers, it is all a lie!
    Muslims are the victims of hate today because everyone else in history has been hated BEFORE except Muslims, so that was their only option to target the Muslims, do you all really believe a Muslim would do such a thing?

    I agree with you.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Al-Qaeda is a corpse maintained by State Central American intelligence, Israeli Mossad and the u.s. Pentagon.
  • Al qaeda is just a DataBase Server name, they use this name to promote a terrorist propaganda, to people beLIEve that really exist a terrorist group..
  • Al qaeda is just a DataBase Server name, they use this name to promote a terrorist propaganda, to people beLIEve that really exist a terrorist group..
    'Al Qaeda': How the Pentagon/ CIA Made an 'Enemy'
    created 11/07/2005 - 10:40, updated 11/07/2005 - 10:44 by cybe

    Al Qaeda is not and never has been a "terrorist organization."

    "Al-Qaida,(sic) literally 'the database,' was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians," admits former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook, whose Foreign Office portfolio included control of British Intelligence Agency MI-6 and the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), in a column published by the UK Guardian newspaper.
    (<!-- m -->http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/sto ... 38,00.html<!-- m -->)

    In other words, the so-called Al Qaeda, which has been promoted by the Media Cartel as the cause of all bombings and terrorism since the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001, is simply a database of CIA trained "terrorists" (or "freedom fighters," depending on your perspective) which has become a convenient Global Boogeyman for the 21st Century.

    What does this mean? The entire planet has been fooled into believing that an Islamic "organization" exists to promote the destruction of Western society, when in fact this "organization" is just a list of Pentagon/ CIA trained assassins, who can be used and discarded as needed.

    "It is noteworthy that Cook made his revelation about the 'Al Qaeda' computer file of mujaheddin volunteers one day before the Abu Hafs Al Masri Brigades became the second terrorist group to claim responsibility for the London blasts," writes Washington-based writer Wayne Madsen. (<!-- m -->http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/<!-- m -->)

    "Abu Hafs, an Egyptian citizen whose name appeared in the database and whose nom de guerre was al-Masri ('The Egyptian'), was an aide to Osama Bin Laden and helped to populate the database with mujaheddin volunteer fighters," Madsen continues. "Al-Masri was part of the group of Egyptian Jihadists that assassinated President Anwar Sadat in 1981."

    Madsen also notes the fact that it is well-known that US funding for the Afghan mujaheddin, who were fighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, spawned both Al Qaeda and the Taliban, as reported by BBC Teheran correspondent Frances Harrison.

    The London Bombing of 7/7/05 is evidently a set-up to implicate Iran as the patsy in order for the Neo-Cons to make the case for a new war on Iran.

    Madsen reports that "if it is discovered that RDX/C4 was used in the bombing, the Neo Cons will point to allegations that Iran possesses a disproportionate amount of RDX/C4. The Neo Con spin machine will then rapidly switch from Al Qaeda to Iran" in order to drum up public support for a War on Iran.

    The Pentagon/ CIA/ MI6/ Mossad PsyOps (Psychological Operations) against the inhabitants of Planet Earth continues.

    If the Pentagon/ CIA database called "Al-Qaida, literally 'the database,' was originally the computer file of thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians," the Global Boogeyman of the 21st Century is a complete fiction.

    And the Mega-Corporate Media Cartel Propaganda which promotes this fiction is discredited once again.

    Repeat after me -- There is NO al Qaeda. There is NO Al Qaeda. There is NO Al Qaeda.

    The scam is over. Pass it on...
    http://100777.com/node/1343
    Correct me if I am wrong but the translation of Al-Caida from Arabic to english means informer
    Alleged CIA involvement
    Robin Cook, British Foreign Secretary from 1997 to 2001, has written that al-Qaeda and Bin Laden were "a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies", and that "Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians."

    ...Peter Bergen admitted, in one "strange incident" the CIA did appear to give visa help to mujahideen-recruiter Omar Abdel-Rahman.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda#Alleged_CIA_involvement

    Osama bin Laden: A dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government
    Bin Laden's voice was detected regularly until [14 December 2001] by intelligence operatives monitoring radio transmissions in Tora Bora, according to the Pentagon [details]. Since then, nothing has been heard from the al-Qa'eda leader and President Bush has hinted in private that bin Laden's silence could mean he has been killed. [Telegraph, 12/28/2001]

    Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December [2001] and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.

    With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival? [New York Times. July 11, 2002]

    FOX News Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
    Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
    [Fox News. December 26, 2001]

    Bin Laden has often been reported to be in poor health. Some accounts claim that he is suffering from Hepatitis C, and can expect to live for only two more years. According to Le Figaro, last year [2000] he ordered a mobile dialysis machine to be delivered to his base at Kandahar in Afghanistan. [Guardian]

    This is a man who was clearly not well. I mean, as you see from these pictures here, he's really, by December [2001] he's looking pretty terrible.

    laden2001dec.jpg laden2001.jpg
    Bin Laden December 27, 2001 video

    But by December, of course, that tape that was aired then, he's barely moving the left side of his body. So he's clearly got diabetes. He has low blood pressure. He's got a wound in his foot. He's apparently got dialysis ... for kidney problems. [CNN]
    The [December 27, 2001 video] was dismissed by the Bush administration ... as sick propaganda possibly designed to mask the fact the al-Qa'eda leader was already dead. "He could have made the video and then ordered that it be released in the event of his death," said one White House aide. [Telegraph]

    Pakistan's Musharraf: Bin Laden probably dead

    Pakistan's president says he thinks Osama bin Laden is most likely dead because the suspected terrorist has been unable to get treatment for his kidney disease.

    [A Bush administration official] said U.S. intelligence is that bin Laden needs dialysis every three days and "it is fairly obvious that that could be an issue when you are running from place to place, and facing the idea of needing to generate electricity in a mountain hideout." [CNN]
    Renal dialysis -- talking about hemodialysis -- is something that really is reserved for patients in end-stage renal failure. That means their kidneys have just completely shut down. The most common cause of something like that would be something like diabetes and hypertension. Once that's happened, if you're separated from your dialysis machine -- and incidentally, dialysis machines require electricity, they're going to require clean water, they're going to require a sterile setting -- infection is a huge risk with that. If you don't have all those things and a functioning dialysis machine, it's unlikely that you'd survive beyond several days or a week at the most. [CNN]

    Karzai: bin Laden 'probably' dead

    Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead, but former Taliban leader Mullah Omar is alive, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said. [CNN]

    FBI: Bin Laden 'probably' dead

    The US Federal Bureau of Investigation's counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, says he thinks Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead. [BBC]

    Magazine runs what it calls bin Laden's will

    The editor-in-chief of a London-based Arab news magazine said a purported will it published Saturday was written late last year [2001] by Osama bin Laden, and shows "he's dying or he's going to die soon." [CNN]
    Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader. "The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said. [FOX News]

    Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
    al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633

    News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago

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    A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. [Welfare State]

    Osama bin who?

    Israel does not view bin Laden as a threat. [Janes]

    Israeli intelligence: Bin Laden is dead, heir has been chosen

    Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan in December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden are probably fabrications, Middle East Newsline reported. [World Tribune]

    When you hear a threat which is "probably" made by bin Laden, just remember that he's "probably" dead.
    Also think about who benefits from your believing he's alive


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    10/16/2002: Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan in December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden are probably fabrications, Middle East Newsline reported. [World Tribune]
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.php

    The Fake bin Laden Audio Tape

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    11/19/2002: Bin Laden Tape Is Genuine, U.S. Experts Conclude
    United States intelligence officials have concluded that a recently recorded audiotape that was broadcast on an Arab television network last week is genuine and contains the voice of Osama bin Laden, apparently ending months of debate in the government over whether the elusive terrorist leader is still alive. [New York Times]

    11/30/2002: Swiss scientists: "The recording is a fake"
    Scientists in Switzerland say they are almost certain that an audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden is a fake. ... Researchers at the Dalle Molle Institute for Perceptual Artificial Intelligence, in Lausanne, believe the message was recorded by an impostor.

    In a study commissioned by France 2 television, researchers built a computer model of Bin Laden's voice, based on an hour of genuine recordings. Using voice recognition systems being developed for banking security, they tested the model against 20 known recordings of Bin Laden. The system correctly identified his voice in 19 of them.

    This meant there was only a 5% risk of error in their conclusion that the latest tape is a fake, Professor Hervé Bourlard, the institute's director, told the Guardian yesterday. [Guardian]

    12/2/2003: Swiss Scientists: "Oops. We won't verify other tapes"
    Swiss researchers who last November analysed a tape attributed to Osama bin Laden say they won’t be scrutinising the latest recording broadcast by the Arabic television network, Al-Jazeera. The Swiss analysts said the previous tape was almost certainly faked, despite US claims to the contrary. The Dalle Molle Institute for Perceptual Artificial Intelligence (Idiap) in Martigny told swissinfo on Wednesday that it had no intention of analysing the latest tape. [swissinfo]

    Voice Cloning - Software Recreates Voices Of Living & Dead
    Voice Changer Software changes man voice to hundreds of woman voices in realtime and vice versa to disguise voice totally in voice chat and PC phone. You can freely adjust voice settings and apply effects to enhance sex appeal or characteristics. Built-in Voice Comparator helps simulate people's voices by comparing and hinting. [sharewareriver]
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/binladen_audio.html
  • and I think that Al Qaeda is no more than a "cover" to commit political crimes and related ..
    9 / 11, anthrax, Benazir Bhutto ...
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