TIAI February 14

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"Many waters cannot quench love,
neither can the floods drown it."

Song of Solomon 8:7
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  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    The water theme returns.

    Remember the rumor that the song "Water" was to be on the album Michael? A rumor sometimes accompanied by the side mention that the song "Water" was to be incorporated into the alleged TII shows.

    Then there's always Aquarius, the zodiac sign including March if memory serves? And the approaching age of Aquarius as foretold. SD? You reading? She'd know I bet.

    There's the river Nile, who's basin the 14 pieces of Osirus were strewn and from which Isis collected them from in order to resurrect him.

    There's more in regards to water references but my brain is mushy tonight.

    Ps. Thanks TS.
  • Happy Valentine's Day......it's all about LOVE.
  • dom425dom425 Posts: 100
    Water.........hmmm. The first thing that I thought of was Jesus and how if you follow him you will never thirst. I have a feeling I am way off though.
    I did not get to see all of the Grammy's so could someone tell me if Michael won? Thanks
  • ejayejay Posts: 455
    Water.........hmmm. The first thing that I thought of was Jesus and how if you follow him you will never thirst. I have a feeling I am way off though.
    I did not get to see all of the Grammy's so could someone tell me if Michael won? Thanks

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  • Many waters cannot quench love, neither can the floods drown it: if a man would give all the substance of his house for love, it would utterly be contemned. ~Song of Solomon 8:7

    Neither common nor uncommon adversities, even of the most ruinous nature, can destroy love when it is pure; and pure love is such that nothing can procure it. If it be not excited naturally, no money can purchase it, no property can procure it, no arts can persuade it.
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/cmt/clarke/sol008.htm

    Nothing will stand in the way of true love, it is eternal (love lives forever). There is nothing that can be used to obtain true love, money won't buy it. Those who experience and/or share it, will know it's depth and nothing can lure them away from this truth.
  • This is a beautiful sentiment. "It's All For L.O.V.E." Thank you, TS and Happy St. Valentine's Day.


    While I will take the verse at face value, and obviously TS wanted us to take comfort in the first part of the verse, I was also interested in the full verse which says:



    New International Version
    Song of Solomon 8:7
    Many waters cannot quench love; rivers cannot wash it away. If one were to give all the wealth of his house for love, it would be utterly scorned.


    Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
    8:5-7 The Jewish church came up from the wilderness, supported by Divine power and favour. The Christian church was raised from a low, desolate condition, by the grace of Christ relied on. Believers, by the power of grace, are brought up from the wilderness. A sinful state is a wilderness in which there is no true comfort; it is a wandering, wanting state: There is no coming out of this wilderness, but leaning on Christ as our Beloved, by faith; not leaning to our own understanding, nor trusting in any righteousness of our own; but in the strength of him, who is the Lord our Righteousness. The words of the church to Christ which follow, entreat an abiding place in his love, and protection by his power. Set me as a seal upon thine heart; let me always have a place in thine heart; let me have an impression of love upon thine heart. Of this the soul would be assured, and without a sense thereof no rest is to be found. Those who truly love Christ, are jealous of every thing that would draw them from him; especially of themselves, lest they should do any thing to provoke him to withdraw from them. If we love Christ, the fear of coming short of his love, or the temptations to forsake him, will be most painful to us. No waters can quench Christ's love to us, nor any floods drown it. Let nothing abate our love to him. Nor will life, and all its comforts, entice a believer from loving Christ. Love of Christ, will enable us to repel and triumph over temptations from the smiles of the world, as well as from its frowns.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    Roger had planned to send a great many valentines to the girls and boys he knew. There were beautiful valentines in the toy shop window, red satin hearts in little heart-shaped boxes, painted post card valentines, and little card-board figures holding baskets of flowers.

    Roger had been saving his allowance for four weeks and he was quite sure that he had enough money to buy a valentine for the little girl next door, and one for the little girl across the street, and one for the boy on the next block, and one for the boy who lived upstairs.

    So, quite early the day before Saint Valentine's Day, Roger decided to go out and buy his valentines.

    Just as he was about to start, though, he heard a sound from the playroom. Peep, peep, peep. Oh, it was Roger's pet canary who was calling to him, "Wait a moment, little master! You have forgotten to feed me."

    Roger knew that he must not buy valentines if his pet bird was hungry. He found that it needed fresh water to drink, and the cage needed cleaning too. When he had done all this and filled the seed box, his mother called him.

    "I want two yards more of lace like this for the baby's dress, Roger. Will you please go down to the store and buy it for me?"

    "Oh, yes!" Roger said, for he thought that he should be able to go on down to the toy store and buy his valentines at the same time. But just as he was going out of the door his mother spoke again. "Come right home, Roger, just as quickly as you can. I want to finish the baby's dress so that she can wear it this afternoon when I take her over to Aunt Lucy's."

    Roger got the lace and hurried home with it, but he couldn't get the valentines then. He had to amuse the baby while his mother sewed on the lace.

    "I can go for the valentines this afternoon," Roger thought. But right after luncheon mother dressed the baby and started out for Aunt Lucy's house.

    "I may not be back until five o'clock, Roger," his mother said as she kissed him good-bye. "You won't leave dear grandmother alone a minute, will you?"

    "No, mother," Roger said, but he could have cried, for he knew now that he could not buy his valentines at all.

    Grandmother lost her spectacles several times, and dropped her knitting ball several more times, and wanted Roger to take her for a walk, so he was very busy all the afternoon. He was glad to be busy for he felt very badly indeed about having no valentines to send. All the children to whom he had planned to send valentines had sent valentines to him the year before. The children were his loved playmates and he knew that Saint Valentine's Day was the holiday for telling one's love.

    He did not let his dear grandmother know how sorry he was, though, and after a while it was five o'clock, and his mother came home.

    "Has Roger been a good boy?" she asked his grandmother.

    "As good as gold," grandmother said. "He has just warmed my heart all the afternoon."

    "Well, I thought he would," his mother said. "Oh, I almost forgot something, Roger. I have a surprise for you up in the attic."

    She went up to the attic and came back with a box in her hand.

    "I meant to give these to you this morning, Roger," she said. "I found them in an old trunk when I was cleaning the attic last week. They are just as good as new and much prettier than the ones in the shops now, I think. They are the valentines that I had when I was a little girl."

    Oh, such beautiful valentines as filled the valentine box! There were enough so that Roger could take one to every child in the neighborhood on the morning of Saint Valentine's Day.

    His mother had been right about these pretty, old-fashioned valentines. They were nicer than any in the toy shop. Roger spread them all out on the library table, and looked at them. Suddenly he found out something queer about the valentines; they made him feel as if he had been playing Saint Valentine all day.

    Some of the valentines had cunning little paper windows that pulled out and showed tiny gold birds inside. They made Roger think of his pet canary that he had fed that morning.

    Some of the valentines were bordered and trimmed with gilt, and silver, and white paper lace. It made Roger think of the lace he had bought for his mother.

    A great many of the valentines were in the shape of hearts, or there were hearts hung from them, or hearts on them that could be pulled out and would stand alone. They made Roger think of what his dear grandmother had said,

    "Roger has warmed my heart all the afternoon."
    "Hurrah for the valentine box!" Roger said as he began putting valentines in envelopes. He felt most unusually happy.


    HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO TS AND TO ALL OF YOU
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  • Love is forever...love conquers all...Love is waterproof lol
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    If we don't have love we have nothing.....

    We love you Michael.......more
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    I know Michael wasn't awarded anything in this year's Grammy, but if the heart-felt love all of us in the world have for MJ was to be actually measured, there is no artist that could come close. And we feel his love for us!
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    You Are My Life lyrics

    Once all alone
    I was lost in a world of strangers
    No one to trust
    On my own, I was lonely
    You suddenly appeared
    It was cloudy before but now it's all clear
    You took away the fear
    And you brought me back to the light

    [CHORUS]
    You are the sun
    You make me shine
    Or more like the stars
    That twinkle at night
    You are the moon
    That glows in my heart
    You’re my daytime my nighttime
    My world
    You are my life

    Now I wake up everyday
    With this smile upon my face
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    No more tears, no more pain
    ‘Cause you love me
    You help me understand
    That love is the answer to all that I am
    And I’m a better man
    Since you taught me by sharing your life

    [CHORUS 2x]

    You gave me strength
    When I wasn’t strong
    You gave me hope when all hope was lost
    You opened my eyes when I couldn’t see
    Love was always here waiting for me [Chorus 3x]
  • Mammu94Mammu94 Posts: 232
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  • lilwendylilwendy Posts: 788
    I believe we are talking here about true love… pure spiritual love… not the physical form that many of us celebrate on Valentine’s day.

    True love will not die but will grow stronger… it cannot be destroyed.

    Love, in its pure spiritual form, is a force of attraction that brings together separate parts of a whole. Regardless of distance in time and space, this law of unity overrides all obstacles. Similar to the law of entropy, which naturally restores all states of imbalance to pure balance, so too love restores all parts of a whole. The more force of separation is applied to separate a united whole, the greater the opposite effect to unite them grows. This is a natural law of the universe.

    Love in its purest form transcends the physical sexual form. I think MJ understood this. Not that he wasn’t a man with sexual desires, I’m just sayin’ he has relationships with people – men, women, girls, boys – where a deep love… a non-sexual love… is shared. It’s sad that the media tries to pervert it. I think Brooke Shields hinted to this at one point where she said MJ, or their relationship, was asexual (or something like that-I can’t remember accurately). I’m sure she was talking of that pure type of love (and the media probably took it out of context). This is similar to what people do with Jonathan and David - trying to change a pure love into a homosexual relationship.

    I believe this is what the Army of LOVE’s relationship needs to be to MJ and eachother… one based on a love that will connect us through space and time… with a love that is immortal. A love like God's love.
  • trustno1trustno1 Posts: 654
    Thanks TS and Happy Valentines Day to everyone, such wise and poignant thoughts being shared here. Commercial as Valentines Day is, it's good to know most of us appreciate the real meaning of L.O.V.E.
  • I believe we are talking here about true love… pure spiritual love… not the physical form that many of us celebrate on Valentine’s day.

    True love will not die but will grow stronger… it cannot be destroyed.

    Love, in its pure spiritual form, is a force of attraction that brings together separate parts of a whole. Regardless of distance in time and space, this law of unity overrides all obstacles. Similar to the law of entropy, which naturally restores all states of imbalance to pure balance, so too love restores all parts of a whole. The more force of separation is applied to separate a united whole, the greater the opposite effect to unite them grows. This is a natural law of the universe.

    Love in its purest form transcends the physical sexual form. I think MJ understood this. Not that he wasn’t a man with sexual desires, I’m just sayin’ he has relationships with people – men, women, girls, boys – where a deep love… a non-sexual love… is shared. It’s sad that the media tries to pervert it. I think Brooke Shields hinted to this at one point where she said MJ, or their relationship, was asexual (or something like that-I can’t remember accurately). I’m sure she was talking of that pure type of love (and the media probably took it out of context). This is similar to what people do with Jonathan and David - trying to change a pure love into a homosexual relationship.

    I believe this is what the Army of LOVE’s relationship needs to be to MJ and eachother… one based on a love that will connect us through space and time… with a love that is immortal. A love like God's love.



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  • Happy Valentine's Day to you, TS, your family and friends, and to all of you here.

    I agree with lilwendy- this is not all about physical love-and really, at it's essense, before the day was highjacked for commercialism it was not all about that, either. At it's essense we need to look inside and find that love inside of ourselves- that love that flows and sustains us- like water.

    Water also is highly symbolic and often represents life. It is also the "sacred female" element, represented by blue (which always reminds me of Katherin's suits). We are water to a high percentage- as we all should be about love.

    So, while we enjoy the candies and gifts, lets really on love, follow Michael's example, and let the love flow through us and out of us toward those around us. Those acts of kindness, like smiling at your check-out person, or remembering your server's name, being kind and polite to those around us- really make all the difference.

    All for L O V E! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Happy V- Day!
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Love is the noblest sense, honest, powerful and most humble of course we have human beings, love is the antidote to end hatred, conflict, tyranny and war. The so-called political leaders, representatives of empires, self-centered, manipulative, in short all those who think only in power to do harm, should reflect, to feel love for the world to live in peace. Where there is love, there is God, love is the energy that makes the world go round.
    And as Gandhi said, love is the most humble strength, but the most powerful, it is precisely in the humility that is the strength of love.
    Happy day of love TS, Michael and all
  • Love is the noblest sense, honest, powerful and most humble of course we have human beings, love is the antidote to end hatred, conflict, tyranny and war. The so-called political leaders, representatives of empires, self-centered, manipulative, in short all those who think only in power to do harm, should reflect, to feel love for the world to live in peace. Where there is love, there is God, love is the energy that makes the world go round.
    And as Gandhi said, love is the most humble strength, but the most powerful, it is precisely in the humility that is the strength of love.
    Happy day of love TS, Michael and all

    I couldn´t say it better.! ♥ <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> Wish you all a HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!!♥ <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    These are wonderful thoughts expressed by everyone and it is spiritually nourishing to focus on God's pure agape love on the day when people share sentiments of affection for each other. Come hell or high water, this eternal flame of love can not be extinguished. Every one of us has a personal love letter with our name on it. We just have to recieve it.
    John 3.16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
    God IS Love and as MJ said Love lives forever, it is the only thing that is going to last.
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    It's all for L.O.V.E...


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  • gwynnedgwynned Posts: 1,361
    I believe we are talking here about true love… pure spiritual love… not the physical form that many of us celebrate on Valentine’s day.

    True love will not die but will grow stronger… it cannot be destroyed.

    Love, in its pure spiritual form, is a force of attraction that brings together separate parts of a whole. Regardless of distance in time and space, this law of unity overrides all obstacles. Similar to the law of entropy, which naturally restores all states of imbalance to pure balance, so too love restores all parts of a whole. The more force of separation is applied to separate a united whole, the greater the opposite effect to unite them grows. This is a natural law of the universe.

    Love in its purest form transcends the physical sexual form. I think MJ understood this. Not that he wasn’t a man with sexual desires, I’m just sayin’ he has relationships with people – men, women, girls, boys – where a deep love… a non-sexual love… is shared. It’s sad that the media tries to pervert it. I think Brooke Shields hinted to this at one point where she said MJ, or their relationship, was asexual (or something like that-I can’t remember accurately). I’m sure she was talking of that pure type of love (and the media probably took it out of context). This is similar to what people do with Jonathan and David - trying to change a pure love into a homosexual relationship.

    I believe this is what the Army of LOVE’s relationship needs to be to MJ and eachother… one based on a love that will connect us through space and time… with a love that is immortal. A love like God's love.

    Beautifully said. Thank you so much for your inspiring words. Reminded me of what Michael said in Keep Your Head Up.....

    All you need is LOVE
    I tell you I know it's coming soon
    And all you need is just a moment

    I believe when we experience that kind of divine spiritual love - even for a moment - we can and will be transformed. It is what we search for all our lives, but often get confused by the many imitations there are out there that provide temporary satisfaction but nothing long lasting.
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    Hello TS,

    Happy "V" for Victorious!

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  • Happy Valentines Day everyone!! I LOVE you all! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    Michael sang "Water water" in TII.

    A quick list of symbolic meanings for water include:

    Transformation
    Subconscious
    Fertilization
    Purification
    Reflection
    Intuition
    Renewal
    Blessing
    Motion
    Life

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    Love to you all from me and my cat (who I love even when he's being bad <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> ) <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • mjj4ever777mjj4ever777 Posts: 1,467
    I believe we are talking here about true love… pure spiritual love… not the physical form that many of us celebrate on Valentine’s day.

    True love will not die but will grow stronger… it cannot be destroyed.

    Love, in its pure spiritual form, is a force of attraction that brings together separate parts of a whole. Regardless of distance in time and space, this law of unity overrides all obstacles. Similar to the law of entropy, which naturally restores all states of imbalance to pure balance, so too love restores all parts of a whole. The more force of separation is applied to separate a united whole, the greater the opposite effect to unite them grows. This is a natural law of the universe.

    Love in its purest form transcends the physical sexual form. I think MJ understood this. Not that he wasn’t a man with sexual desires, I’m just sayin’ he has relationships with people – men, women, girls, boys – where a deep love… a non-sexual love… is shared. It’s sad that the media tries to pervert it. I think Brooke Shields hinted to this at one point where she said MJ, or their relationship, was asexual (or something like that-I can’t remember accurately). I’m sure she was talking of that pure type of love (and the media probably took it out of context). This is similar to what people do with Jonathan and David - trying to change a pure love into a homosexual relationship.

    I believe this is what the Army of LOVE’s relationship needs to be to MJ and eachother… one based on a love that will connect us through space and time… with a love that is immortal. A love like God's love.

    Well said lilwendy! Bless you! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <3
    Happy Valentine's Day TS and all of my wonderful family here on this site! "Love", is always the answer!

    Have a Great Day friends!
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