Barely Legal -- Good Enough for Conrad Murray

Tink.I.AmTink.I.Am Posts: 878
edited January 1970 in News
Barely Legal -- Good Enough for Conrad Murray
3/30/2011 6:23 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

A good defense team always telegraphs subtle messages to potential jurors, and Dr. Conrad Murray did just that yesterday in Santa Monica.

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As his lawyers were in downtown L.A. picking a jury that will decide if he is criminally responsible for the death of Michael Jackson, Dr. Murray proudly sported the number 18 -- the magic number that makes people barely legal.

Barely legal is all it should take to get an acquittal.

Who knew, the best jury consultants in town were Abercrombie and Fitch?


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  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    Being the investigator that I'm suppose to be...I ask you, is TMZ once again..
    #1 the opportune photographer on the scene...
    #2 leaving a clue in the #18
    #3 leaving the clue in the words "leaving subtle messages"
    #4 leaving messages in the words "barely legal"
    #5 magic number?

    Just asking...
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    Oh.....TMZ.......!
    Here is a Wikipedia for the number 18......the link:

    <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18_(number<!-- m -->)

    and what I found interesting:
    In religion and literature

    The Hebrew word for "alive" is חי (chai), which has a numerical value of 18. Consequently, the custom has arisen in Jewish circles to give donations and monetary gifts in multiples of 18 as an expression of blessing for long life.
    In Judaism, in the Talmud; Pirkei Avot (5:25), Rabbi Yehudah ben Teime gives the age of 18 as the appropriate age to get married ("Ben shmonah esra lechupah", at eighteen years old to the Chupah (marriage canopy)). (See Coming of age, Age of majority).
    In Ancient Roman custom the number 18 can symbolise a blood relative.
    Joseph Heller's novel Catch-22 was originally named Catch-18 because of the Hebrew meaning of the number, but was amended to the published title to avoid confusion with another war novel, Mila 18.[1]
    There are 18 chapters in the Bhagavad Gita, which is contained in the Mahabharata, which has 18 books. The Kurukshetra War which the epic depicts, is between 18 armies (11 on the Kuru side, 7 on the Pandava).
    18 is on the right palm of the right hand in Arabic.

    There is more I am sure...but just had to post that quickly for the <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> factor!
    Back to reading up on 18!
    Blessings!

    PS> I am wondering what's on page 18 of the autopsy report, maybe? Or some other document we have seen????
  • Tink.I.AmTink.I.Am Posts: 878
    maybe "leaving subtle messages" in the word "fitch" as close to "fetch" as is close to "get" or "pick"...
    conclusion pick jury member number 18 ????
  • Remember that photo of Sam Gossen with Karen Faye and some other girls.. she had a T-Shirt on of the same make and someone had photoshopped the "Fitch" on her top to re-spell something else?

    Just reminded me of that.

    P.S. - is age of consent 18 in USA? Thats quite high. In UK its 16.
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    Fitch....
    a dark brown mustelid [weasel or polecat] of the woodlands of Eurasia that gives off an unpleasant odour when threatened.
    hmm.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Murray appears to be one frame away from grabbing his crotch.
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    Maybe this whole upcoming trial is "barely legal".
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    Murray appears to be one frame away from grabbing his crotch.

    <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> I hope he doesn't do that though. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    Well, to me Number 18 is interesting because 8-1=7 which is Michael's number and also 8+1=9 which was another important number for the hoax. Making 666 upside down and make it 999. So 18 both makes 7 and 9 which are important numbers in this hoax.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    Maybe this whole upcoming trial is "barely legal".

    yeah and that. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • or something that has been going on for a while is barely legal. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • maybe "leaving subtle messages" in the word "fitch" as close to "fetch" as is close to "get" or "pick"...
    conclusion pick jury member number 18 ????


    Maybe Juror #18 could be Michael?? I stated this on the other post that I have a feeling that Michael will be in the jury.
  • Murray appears to be one frame away from grabbing his crotch.


    Oh well! He wants to be Michael. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • nevermind <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->
  • [youtube:p6u1491m]

    I cross-referenced this video from Esprit467 under the "Tyne Stecklein in New Old Navy Commercial" thread due to parallel between Old Navy and Ambercrombie and Fitch.

    Great video and Thankyou to Esprit467!
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    0118-kid-conrad-murray-photo-ex-tmz.jpg

    Murray not to have clothes great or these photos are done the same day <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
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  • lilwendylilwendy Posts: 788
    @wishingstar - I got your WOW factor! What a "coincidence"! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> 18=Alive hmmmm.... Thanks for that! Great find!
  • very slightly off topic ...

    I was looking at the remembering Michael attached to this article about Conrad, and TMZ has a link advertisement attched to the photographs for Pearl JR book about the hoax. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> I guess TMZ just did good business!!! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • mjaliveomgmjaliveomg Posts: 178
    0118-kid-conrad-murray-photo-ex-tmz.jpg

    Murray not to have clothes great or these photos are done the same day <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/18/dr-conrad ... e-traitor/<!-- m -->

    nice catch paula <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • Fitch is a clothing line of "Abercrombie & Fitch" <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Nice loafers Connie!

    I'm sorry, but again Connie reminds me of MJ in this picture. Before anyone jumps on me: I do not see that in EVERY picture of him, just sometimes. It's something about the eyes and the mouth. Either Mike sometimes puts on the Connie suit and mask, or Connie is related to him, but they resemble each other a lot in my opinion.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    Curious, yesterday i was doing a little research and ended up seeing this pic where one can read "Barely Legal".

    This is an adult publication and Michael was criticized by some people for having porn magazines at home. May be some relation with this recent Murray´s article?

    michael_jackson_drugs_013_full.jpg
  • A good defense team always telegraphs subtle messages to potential jurors
    Lol, barely SUBTLE...
    Btw, I love the blue color of CM's shirt. Symbolic meaning of the color blue is life and re-birth or resurrection. <!-- m -->http://www.egyptianmyths.net/colors.htm<!-- m -->

    On “barely legal” I found this:

    Video on Trial (season 3)
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The third season of the Canadian television comedy series Video on Trial premiered on MuchMusic on August 12, 2007 and concluded on August 11, 2008. It consists of 26 episodes.

    [edit] Episodes
    The show uses a courtroom-style format: each episode usually consists of five music videos being "tried" by five different people, usually comedians, musicians, and entertainment columnists, acting as the "jurors". From the first to mid-fifth seasons, the end of each episode featured a final "verdict" given to each video being "tried".
    Starting with the 19th episode of the third season (Episode 3.19), the show introduced new graphics; these new graphics continued until the 21st episode of the fifth season (Episode 5.21).
    This list is arranged in the order in which the episodes were broadcast, and does not include spin-off "specials" (such as Stars on Trial). The list contains the air dates, episode numbers, "accused" music videos, and "jurors" of each episode of the season.
    24
    "Video on Trial: So '90s Edition"
    • Marty Adams
    • Trevor Boris
    • Nikki Payne
    • Pauly Shore
    • Alyson Smith 1. "Black or White" - Michael Jackson
    2. "Say You'll Be There" - Spice Girls
    3. "I Wanna Sex You Up" - Color Me Badd
    4. "Pretty Fly (For a White Guy)" - The Offspring
    5. "Break Stuff" - Limp Bizkit
    July 14, 2008
    3.25
    "Totally '80s Video on Trial"
    • Debra DiGiovanni
    • Nikki Payne
    • Boomer Phillips
    • Ron Sparks
    • Anna Von Frances 1. "Open Your Heart" - Madonna
    2. "Legs" - ZZ Top
    3. "Bad" - Michael Jackson
    4. "Didn't You Kill My Brother?" - Alexei Sayle
    5. "Rio" - Duran Duran
    July 28, 2008

    "Video on Trial: ♥ Barely Legal ♥"
    Trevor Boris
    Debra DiGiovanni
    Sabrina Jalees
    Matt O'Brien
    Darrin Rows
    1."Rush" - Aly & AJ
    2."Start All Over" - Miley Cyrus
    3."What Time Is It?" - High School Musical 2 cast
    4."SOS" - Jonas Brothers
    5."Hold Me" - Menudo

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  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    This is an adult publication and Michael was criticized by some people for having porn magazines at home.

    I don't get that, seriously... I would be concerned if a guy did NOT have porn SOMEWHERE in his house or on his computer. They are guys, that's what they have <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Why would Mike be any different?

    It's hypocrite that they make an elephant out of a mosquito in the US when it comes to porn and nudity, while it has the biggest porn industry in the world.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Nice loafers Connie!

    I'm sorry, but again Connie reminds me of MJ in this picture. Before anyone jumps on me: I do not see that in EVERY picture of him, just sometimes. It's something about the eyes and the mouth. Either Mike sometimes puts on the Connie suit and mask, or Connie is related to him, but they resemble each other a lot in my opinion.


    Okay, I can't let it go. I know people have called me insane before, but I don't care. Murray sometimes simply looks different and when he does he looks like Mike. In those pictures we can't see his height, so that's not the issue. I just compared the hands of the Murray in this picture with a picture from Mike in the BAD era and they are the same. Same shape, same long and thin fingers and even the vains match. The only difference is, is that 'Murray' has a tiny bump on his little finger...

    So you can all call me nuts but I am just going to say it: the man in this picture is Michael Jackson.

    There, rant at me if you like, but I truly believe he is.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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