Debunked Clues
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I'm not sure if this has been done already but it might be a good idea to post a list of the clues that have been
(unanimously) debunked. I don't have much to contribute here but just an idea.
(unanimously) debunked. I don't have much to contribute here but just an idea.
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But I can add some information that I have been tirelessly working on......
That day and the other day..
Ben is definitely telling the truth about that.
The pics I have saved to my computer, are taken from two different videos...
1. From a tour bus passenger.
2. The original video released by Ben Evenstad of MJ being rushed to UCLA by ambulance..
There are many inconsistencies with the story, and with what really happened.
Most obvious is the shadows of the trees.
Second, the lies about who took that last photo, because the pictures tell a different story.
It has been proved that the road is really narrow, and not wide enough for all those cars.
These are the links they have been taken from....
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I don't think you can debunk all the clues. Just some of the minor ones. Also one of the many critiques Pearljr gets is that she refers to clues that have already been debunked. If this is the case we should list them instead of presuming everyone knows. Personally I think we have enough evidence to be comfortable in what we believe, this is really just a trimming of the edges.
One clue I remember being debunked at the old MJHD website was the 2006 this is it picture. Ifthe website supposedly would routinely change a Michael Jackson related article's picture it would in turn change all Michael Jackson related articles' pictures into the same one regardless of the year it was posted. I don't think this clue is worth that much anyways.
Murray can still be a real doctor...most likely the medical attention he gave on the plane was a stunt...but who's to say he is not a real doctor...I know he did all the wrong things when it came to cpr, but any person would know how to do cpr and if he doesn't means he really killed MJ which we know is not true...I think he is a doctor.
Let's see.......... there was an opinion one or two of members to my question, don't remember who, that Katherine went shopping in June 29,2009 "because she probably needed sleeping bags.....for kids to sleep in her house and that could be her way of grieving".
Another time I said on the thread BAM scene is a direct clue from Michael, one of the members, again I don't remember who was it, said "it is not a clue but continuance of the song that ends the TII" or something like that.
These are not my debunks cause I do think these are very powerful clues. But this is a good chance to see if these debunks are wroking.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Does this also mean that 911 call in not fake, prerecorded? Also what coordinates shown on the screen indicates backside of the house?
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It doesn't mean it's real, just that the coordinates show that it came from the house, not the hotel as the address suggests. But as you can see on the screen below, the address that corresponds with the coordinates is not the BH hotel, so I don't understand how that could end up on the screen.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Uhhh, yeah. On the video you posted you can see it on the still. It's also on the website.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I got what you mean. But I think the coordinates on the screen could appear in 2 cases: 1. because amb. got there and computer automatically cought the coordinate where ambulance arrived or 2. because ambulance first googled the address based on the what the caller gave them, to get the destination. So, the screen does not have to necessarily and would not show the address where the phone call was made from. It shows the address where amb. was going to or got, same as it actually reads on the screen 100 N. Carolwood dr.
back to your version, therefore it is possible paramedics where googling the address of the incident and that reflects on the screen as a LAT 34081......
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Challenged, but not debunked:
* Bam scene at the end of this is it, actually the end of a song.
* "2006" This Is It picture actually from 2009.
* Conrad Murray is a real doctor
* (According to my Psych teacher) Backwards this is it is only a coincidence (and subjective).
Debunked:
* Conrad Murray is a real person
* The 911 call actually came from the house
* Ben was telling the truth
Which Ben story is the truth, wich part of the story, he has 2 different stories.
I am not sure 911 call can be considered 100% debunked yet as I explained above; coordinates caught from satellite could appear on the screen after amb got the destination or when paramedics insert the actual address in the computer, or googled the address to find it, regardless of "query caller original......" msg on display. Besides, I remember we had video from youtube the same display as I attached above but also showing Beverly Hills hotel address and phone number the call was made. I'll try to find it.
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Supposedly he didn't do too well in medical school, but I think he is a real Doctor.
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Do you mean that it is a reason why Beverly Hills Hotel address which is on Sunset and very close to Carolwood could have appeared on the ambul. display?
Could be YES & NO. We can not say for sure that the reason hotel address is on the screen solely because the hotel caught cell phone signals, it is also possible call was actually made from hotel. Hotel is close to Carolwood but cannot be the only the nearest source of signals. If any residential house on the same Carolwood dr. has satellite TV antenna, it could also caught cell phone signals during the call. I am sure there are many neighbors use satellite TV.