Military Jacket Found

mdcmdc Posts: 343
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
Interesting jacket they have found on a post-Sandy NJ beach. Why does it look familiar? Also interesting wording in the article about what the jacket represents. <br /><br />http://news.yahoo.com/lost-military-jacket-found-post-sandy-nj-beach-103848150.html<br /><br />Sorry, I forget how to add the picture.
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  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    AP640071740823-jpg_201041.jpg<br /><br />That's a crazy coincidence.
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    <br /><br />Ya it totally looks like the jackets the TII dancers wore at the funeral.  Too bad the photo doesn't show more of the jacket.
  • pepperpepper Posts: 558
    header_101758.jpg<br /><br />http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/i/articles/22/22535/header_101758.jpg
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Sorry the pic is so big, btw. That's the size the news site has it posted at.
  • pepperpepper Posts: 558
    on 1354335129:
    <br /><br /><br />Ya it totally looks like the jackets the TII dancers wore at the funeral.  Too bad the photo doesn't show more of the jacket.<br />
    <br /><br /> :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />50b8ddcb3d2b5.preview-300.jpg<br /><br />A West Point uniform jacket belonging to the late Chester deGavre that was found at a New Jersey beach by Donna Gugger of Holland, Pa. after Superstorm Sandy, is shown Wednesday in Onacock, Va.<br /><br />http://www.indianagazette.com/b_news/article_4db7b598-2bf5-5739-b77f-facaedd98d6b.html
  • MJFAN7MJFAN7 Posts: 3,063
    Weird... thats the exact same jacket the dancers from TII wore to Michael's funeral...  :suspect:
  • mdcmdc Posts: 343
    Yep. And in the article it says the widow saw the jackets return as "...nothing less than a symbol of resurrection and renewal in a landscape scarred by sorrow and loss." Things that make you go "hmmmmmm" or "Holy Crap!" Not sure which.  :icon_lol:
  • SimPattyKSimPattyK Posts: 4,281
    Amazing! More CLUES on clothes!  :icon_e_wink:<br />I've always wondered why so many people were so stubborn and refused to accept all the clues on clothes we've received so far!<br />It's more and more OBVIOUS that the clothes (designs, colors) have played a MAJOR part in the hoax ever since the very beginning , even before!<br />Clothes are an important "tool" to body language!! which is subtle, encoded... perfect for hoax purposes!! Only refined, keen observes catch the hidden message!!<br />And when it comes to ARTISTS! even more so! NEVER ignore clothes!<br /><br />THE CLOTHES "SPEAK" clues TO US ---> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.197492363641122.48889.197418280315197&type=3
  • LoveunitedLoveunited Posts: 370
    <br /><br />Oh this is so much fun! Love it! Wonder what will turn up tomorrow?!  :)
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    so until bam, perhaps a treasure hunt....<br /><br />i *so* like this!<br />
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    hang on though... the dancers don't have that arm stuff going on on their jackets. (the gold and black stuff in the shape of a v)
  • ellydellyd Posts: 220
    Ahhhhh how I love this....<br /><br />washed ashore - thought to be lost but found - thought to be old but fresh as new<br /><br />Why am I reminded of another "washed ashore" thought to be extinct<br /><br />89584869.png
  • taty_2crazytaty_2crazy Posts: 290
      To me it seems to be the same jacket that the dancer wore at the funeral. :icon_question:
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    on 1354336262:
    <br />
    on 1354335129:
    <br /><br /><br />Ya it totally looks like the jackets the TII dancers wore at the funeral.  Too bad the photo doesn't show more of the jacket.<br />
    <br /><br /> :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />50b8ddcb3d2b5.preview-300.jpg<br /><br />A West Point uniform jacket belonging to the late Chester deGavre that was found at a New Jersey beach by Donna Gugger of Holland, Pa. after Superstorm Sandy, is shown Wednesday in Onacock, Va.<br /><br />http://www.indianagazette.com/b_news/article_4db7b598-2bf5-5739-b77f-facaedd98d6b.html<br />
    <br /><br /><br />Thanks pepper!  :)
  • LoveunitedLoveunited Posts: 370
    on 1354347143:
    <br />hang on though... the dancers don't have that arm stuff going on on their jackets. (the gold and black stuff in the shape of a v)<br />
    <br /><br /><br />Missi_g insignia of commander in chief!  Missi_g  commander! Army of L.O.V.E.    :th_bravo:
  • diggyondiggyon Posts: 1,376
    on 1354340651:
    <br /><br /><br />Oh this is so much fun! Love it! Wonder what will turn up tomorrow?!  :)<br />
    <br /><br />Michael's shirt from the "Liberian girl" video!! And may be the camera as well!! :LolLolLolLol:  That would be more than enough!
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    The stripes are added to military jackets to indicate rank. The dancers wore the equivalent of a Private's jacket (lowest rank). The found jacket indicates it belonged to someone of higher rank.
  • ellydellyd Posts: 220
    Well, well, it even goes further... <br /><br />Mr. deGavre was a General according to this source.<br />http://www.wardmuseum.org/Exhibits/ArtistsArchive/GeneralChesterBdeGavre/tabid/218/Default.aspx<br /><br />He did carve waterfowl as his hobby and contributed to exhibits at Ward Museum. One of them being called <br /><br />"Decoy in Time".<br /><br />banner-exhibits.jpg<br /><br />General deGavre died from cardiovascular collapse.<br /><br />This is a true old uniform - unmistakable small but important differences from original (collar, size and form of appliqués)<br />old_uniforms.jpg<br />http://www.kmialumni.org/uniforms.html<br /><br />to replica:<br />50b8ddcb3d2b5.preview-300.jpg<br /><br />Historical auction of a true West Point uniform:<br />http://historical.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1083&lotIdNo=5125#23552355312<br /><br />I just stumbled upon this.<br />This is Mr. Petraeus graduating from West Point with a lot more decoration than the alleged jacket for General deGavre. <br />cn_image.size.petraeus-we.jpg
  • gwynnedgwynned Posts: 1,361
    Unless this is a clue, the story seems a bit preposterous.  Why would a military jacket be such a symbol of resurrection?  In fact, to me the story is barely interesting among all the other stories.  A symbol of Resurrection?  The owner had a 'heart like a stormy sea'?  <br /><br />And then the final comment:<br /><br />
    "It's a miracle because it's still a mystery how it made it to that beach and for me to have even had the opportunity to pick it up. It's not really about the jacket, it's about the journey."
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    on 1354391816:
    <br /><br />This is a true old uniform - unmistakable small but important differences from original (collar, size and form of appliqués)<br />old_uniforms.jpg<br />http://www.kmialumni.org/uniforms.html<br /><br />to replica:<br />50b8ddcb3d2b5.preview-300.jpg<br /><br />Historical auction of a true West Point uniform:<br />http://historical.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1083&lotIdNo=5125#23552355312<br /><br />I just stumbled upon this.<br />This is Mr. Petraeus graduating from West Point with a lot more decoration than the alleged jacket for General deGavre. <br />cn_image.size.petraeus-we.jpg<br />
    <br /><br />That's interesting, but it looks like there are more then one true types of West Point jacket. Might be formal and regular uniform versions because the last pic (of Mr. Petraeus) the jacket is of the same type as the one washed up, not the type in the display in the first pic. The stripes are different but I believe those patches (stripes and otherwise adornments) are added/traded out as the person's rank changes/accomplishments.<br /><br />It's a really freaky weird coincidence though, and article does read very subtly hoaxy. I have no idea why a military jacket would be a symbol of resurrection, unless it's because the jacket was lost years ago and then found after the storm and was able to be fully restored.
  • ellydellyd Posts: 220
    That's the point. The washed up jacket looks like the recent style, not like the old style. That's why I consider it to be a replica / recent model and the story to be a lie. Maybe there's someone here really knowing about the jacket style differences. <br /><br />In the context with the burial uniforms:<br />we remember TIAI redirects 31 and 32 to "George" http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1930.<br /><br />Even though TS explained the redirects were referring to two other Georges, this third George has a link to West Point:<br />
    George Washington stands above all others as the conceptual founder of the Military Academy. He considered the site of West Point to be so strategic and significant during the American Revolution that he called it the key to the continent.
    <br />http://www.revolutionaryday.com/usroute9w/westpoint/default.htm<br />
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    Wow, I'm so daft sometimes. Thanks miss G and Bec
  • blankieblankie Posts: 2,350
    @Australian MJ BeLIEver  Wow, I'm so daft sometimes. Thanks miss G and Bec  <br /><br /><br /> :icon_razz: me too.... Thanks guys for your great job !!!  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile  :compute:  :bowdown:
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    I think you guys mean ellyd? MissG hasn't posted on this thread, I don't think?<br /><br />I just want to clarify, to me the found jacket does look like the one Mr. P is wearing in the old pic, only the patches/stars are different. I don't think the old pic of Mr. P wearing his jacket looks like the one in the display case. That's why I was saying maybe there are different style jackets used by West Point for different occasions over the years.<br /><br />It's still a crazy coincidence, especially with the article's wording.
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    Yep. That'd be ellyd. Sorry ellyd. Told ya I can be daft.<br /><br />Actually ill blame hoaxing on I phone  :icon_e_wink:
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