What If The Hoax Is A Hoax?

GirlSaturdayGirlSaturday Posts: 1,020
What if…??????? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

The hoax was created for publicity purposes only. How would you honestly react if MJ and those around him did it simply to promote his career?

With this question, it might be easy to get offtopic and provide answers discussing why or why not this reason is feasible. That is why I’d like to stress that the question is not about why he would resort to doing this or how media would react or how the general public would react or what role XYZ people would play in it all.

I’m turning to hoax forum members for their honest response. The question is strictly asked to gauge how you would react if publicity indeed were revealed as the sole reason for pulling the hoax. Remember…anything is possible.

I'll await your replies before sharing mine. It might surprise you. BAM...
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  • To say that I'd be surprised is an understatement lol. I'd be completely & utterly shocked. In my mind, that is the last thing I would expect of him. But in the end, I just want him back. I would be happy. More than happy <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • PinkTopazPinkTopaz Posts: 1,013
    What if…??????? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    The hoax was created for publicity purposes only. How would you honestly react if MJ and those around him did it simply to promote his career?

    With this question, it might be easy to get offtopic and provide answers discussing why or why not this reason is feasible. That is why I’d like to stress that the question is not about why he would resort to doing this or how media would react or how the general public would react or what role XYZ people would play in it all.

    I’m turning to hoax forum members for their honest response. The question is strictly asked to gauge how you would react if publicity indeed were revealed as the sole reason for pulling the hoax. Remember…anything is possible.

    I'll await your replies before sharing mine. It might surprise you. BAM...
    Oh. My. Gosh. Today, just today, not any time before, I was watching the Tyra Banks talkshow. She always does "social experiments" (like going out in a super-fat suit to see how peeps on the street treat her), and I thought, "What if the hoax is nothing more than Michael conducting a social experiment, to see how peeps react?"

    I know that's not exactly what you've got in mind here, but it's so similar, especially because then I thought "It's so simple and that's what makes it such an unexpected reason, yet everyone down at the hoax board would lynch me for 'trivializing this important hoax' What if I go on later and someone else has a thread about this?"

    I swear, I really do, that I thought these things at 4 p.m. Pacific U.S.A time today!!! And look! Well, GS, as you might've guessed by now, I wouldn't give a frog's (I love frogs) stinkin' butt if that's why he did it- I wouldn't care AT ALL. In fact, I'd be very glad it was just that, very glad indeed, and I'd be even happier to see his face!
  • miss jmiss j Posts: 346
    i'll be honestly happy that i will have the second chance to really appreciate him. i've been neglecting him (although i wouldn't resist to hear his songs) because i forgot the fact that he won't be here forever, that i would always have him. his death has taught me to appreciate the people i love, while i still have them. i don't mind whatever reasons of why he has to pull this hoax, but it is always great to be given a second chance.
  • I thought about this possibility. I mean, of course this is something that could have happened. but then again..if this came out, those who participated would look pretty...well...publicity loving, let´s say it like this. so...not sure,..curious to hear your thoughts <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • badkolobadkolo Posts: 128
    very possible, this could be an elaborate publicity stunt
  • Very possible!
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    First I would like to start off by saying I have not made a public introduction of myself on this forum. So many of you who have been participating in this forum and hoax longer than I have seem to have gotten to know each other and have built a rapore on this wonderful adventure.
    And of course since you don't know me and my thoughts most of my info seems to get overlooked by many.

    I see that you ALL seem to be forgetting the fact that MJ stated very clearly in his TII movie that this was an adventure for ALL of us. He wanted to take us places we've never been before and show us things we've never seen or experienced.

    And it was stated very clearly this was ALL for L.O.V.E.

    This is coming from a man who has given everything of himself for his fans and many other people throughout his entire life. It always is done from his heart.

    He has given and given and continues to give unconditionally without asking of anything from any of his fans but, to trust in him.

    MJ never needed to ever do a publicity stunt persay to boost his image or his career. His talents alone do that ALL by themselves. The man is a phenom with his singing and dancing abilities. He is an absolute genius. This is another part of him and his genius to get people interactively participating in a huge creative demonstration.

    This demonstration has many facets to it beyond the hoax itself. There are many serious issues that MJ has been tapping the world on the shoulder about for years in his lyrics.

    No one heard him when he sang them on stage or when they heard his music on the jukebox. You only heard an image of who you thought MJ was.

    This was something he absolutely needed to do to shock the shit out of people and wake them up to more than just his music.

    There are very serious issues happening in our world and if you continue to overlook it you will be taken way out of your comfort level more than just this hoax has done.

    I suggest you seriously start paying attention to the issues presented during this hoax and learn what is going on before it is to late. Stop worrying about the why of the hoax and educate yourself.

    MJ has exposed some very dangerous things while doing this hoax, things that put his life in danger. Do you honestly think MJ would sacrifice his LIFE if it wasn't a serious issue for the world to WAKE UP to what is going on around us being done by our GOVTS.?

    Alot of my post go unread or responded to because it appears that many of you would rather continue to be in the dark and denial. This is a serious thing here not just a hoax or some publicity stunt for MJ's selfish reasons or a study group experience.

    There is elements of a study being done for sure but, we ALL need to play a role in it and REALLY STUDY the issues being presented that maybe a little uncomfortable to think about.

    Now I do not post much and when I do it is usually on the lines of important things needing to be addressed. I enjoy the adventure but, I enjoy knowledge way more than petty threads about nonsense theories.

    Peace
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  • LavdHimLavdHim Posts: 352
    if it's really his reason .. as long as michael is happy, I don't mind about that .. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • GirlSaturdayGirlSaturday Posts: 1,020
    I asked the question to gain a better understanding of whether there are any conditions placed on how members believe in the hoax. Is the hoax only believable if it is for a deep and meaningful purpose but less believable if it is for something such as publicity? Sometimes things may be much simpler than we think them to be.

    Personally I wouldn’t be mad at MJ if publicity were the reason. You sometimes have to do what you have to do. Face it, the entertainment industry is tough and competitive. It’s one thing to reach the top yet another to consistently stay there. MJ always raised the bar not necessarily to compete with others but to compete with himself.

    By MJ’s standards, his last recordings did not do well. Where has his fan base gone? Why didn't they buy his music at the same levels as they did with Thriller? Yes Thriller was his “Mona Lisa” masterpiece and some say that lightening seldom strikes twice. However each album release after Thriller showed lower and lower sales numbers. For any random musician that would have been okay. For MJ, that drop-off in record sales was unacceptable. Perfectionists don’t handle mediocrity too well.

    I don’t know if publicity is the reason for the hoax or not. For every reason that is given as to why this could never happen there are 5 others to demonstrate that this could have happened. It would be of no surprise to me if the world’s greatest performer pulled off the world’s greatest publicity stunt by using his greatest asset…himself.

    Thanks for your replies.
  • lilithlilith Posts: 105
    I want him back! Right now I becoming sad again and I am so so so scared that he could be dead. I don't let the idea sink in because I cannot handle it - but there is a sadness.

    I want him back! I love him! He might decide things I don't understand fully, but no matter what, I know enough of him, to love him - whatever. I try not to judge the things about him I do not understand and just appreciate who he is.

    I love him and I want him back!!! Please Michael come back!!!
  • Tina K.Tina K. Posts: 1,589
    I really dont care why he did it, I just need to know, that he's allright. That will be enough for me.
  • I got a bit confused when I read your post GirlSaturday... When I saw the title of the thread I thought it would be about:

    "What if Mike is dead, and all the persons who have been dropping clues and made slip ups over the past months only wanted to imply that Mike hoaxed his death while the opposite is the case, for i.e. financial gain".

    Now to your question What if the hoax was created for publicity purposes only: Although I most certainly don't think that this is the reason, I would be perfectly fine with it. I have learned so much since June 25th, and there's no one who can take that away from me. With this newly gained knowledge I am able to face life with a much clearer view and act upon it. My children will gain from what I have learned, their future will benefit from it. IF, and I saw IF, it turns out to be a publicity stunt I will still be forever grateful for what Mike taught me.
  • ChamoneChamone Posts: 272
    Too many things smell fishy for this all just to be a publicity stunt. Ofcourse, I don't KNOW, I'm just guessing, but to me it doesn't seem like something MJ would do. He would have know how many people would be upset and genuinly hurt by his 'death'.

    I seriously think his life was in danger, real danger, and that is why he had to fake his death. This is a lot of work, too much work for just a social experiment.

    But who knows for sure?
  • I think it could be both for publicity and for L.O.V.E. and spreading his message. And probably even more than that. It doesn't have to be for just one reason.
    I don;t underestimate the importance of the reason behind this but I think publicity was a part of it, a necessary part. MJ hadn't been in the public eye for a very long time and when he did make headlines it was for all the wrong reasons. At least in the last 10 years. And let's face it, to get his message out there he first needed our attention. And not just the fans attention, but the entire world's attention. And that is exact;y what he got. His message was heard by everyone, he got more fans, and people who weren;t so sure about his innocence in the past, are now and are also looking at the better side of him.
    So yes I think publicity was the first necessary step in this.
    IF it was just that I think I would understand from the artists point of view. Like GS said the entertainment business is tough and for someone like MJ the work is twice as hard. But I must admit I would be also very disappointed in him...probably by my own "mistake" of thinking too greatly of his soul. BUt to mess with people's emotions to such a degree just for fame and money is low. And it wouldn't make him any better than the people's he's been fighting against.
    But as I said before, I don't think it was JUST about publicity <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • The hoax perfetly can be a hoax... that´s always a possibility...
    There´s even a possibility of the hoax being a hoax of the NWO messing with us and misleading us from important things happening (I mean beyond our awakeness).
    Really winding, but still possible.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    That was the first thing I thought back in late June/July. As much as I don't believe that is the (only) reason today, I wouldn't care if it was. Whatever his reasons are, this hoax is brilliant and I will take off my hat for him and make a deep bow...

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • I love your post Girl Saturday and to be honest i've always thought this was MJ's reason. Since December 2008 it's been a rollercoaster MJ wise, MJ dies from a drug over dose then we're told no this was a hoax, then Ian Halperin says he has 6 months to live and then MJ announcing he was doing a comeback like no other performer with 50 shows and then 6 months after Ian Halperin announed MJ was dying guess what MJ "dies" which I find way too convienent. MJ never did anything average ever! and you're right he is a perfectionist and average just will not do.
    MJ also liked to play games with the media, the oxygen chamber story, elephant man bones, MJ seen out in a wheel chair he played with the media and was a man of mystery. MJ knew mystery would give him a lasting career, the man isn't stupid he's a genius and knows how to keep himself in the news. Just like what's happening since June 25th, he's more in the news now than he has in past 5 years.
    I personally could never imagine MJ doing an average comeback like alot of stars have done in the past 5 years.
  • sbrownesbrowne Posts: 30
    :geek: I totally agree with you, people need to step away from the hoax and start looking around, they need to start looking at what is infront of them, step out of the box and see the truth. I personally stepped away from the hoax not totally because there is so much to learn yet but just a little to see what is going on. And I believe that's what people should now. Let Michael take us through what he wants to show us. So far he had shown me a lot. And I am spreading the word LOVE..
    I just wish more people would start listening. But I am not giving up. I feel that Michael needs us to do this to help him. So that's what I am here to do, to help him to wake up the people and to spread the message. It's all for love. i just want Michael to know that You Are Not Alone......

    First I would like to start off by saying I have not made a public introduction of myself on this forum. So many of you who have been participating in this forum and hoax longer than I have seem to have gotten to know each other and have built a rapore on this wonderful adventure.
    And of course since you don't know me and my thoughts most of my info seems to get overlooked by many.

    I see that you ALL seem to be forgetting the fact that MJ stated very clearly in his TII movie that this was an adventure for ALL of us. He wanted to take us places we've never been before and show us things we've never seen or experienced.

    And it was stated very clearly this was ALL for L.O.V.E.

    This is coming from a man who has given everything of himself for his fans and many other people throughout his entire life. It always is done from his heart.

    He has given and given and continues to give unconditionally without asking of anything from any of his fans but, to trust in him.

    MJ never needed to ever do a publicity stunt persay to boost his image or his career. His talents alone do that ALL by themselves. The man is a phenom with his singing and dancing abilities. He is an absolute genius. This is another part of him and his genius to get people interactively participating in a huge creative demonstration.

    This demonstration has many facets to it beyond the hoax itself. There are many serious issues that MJ has been tapping the world on the shoulder about for years in his lyrics.

    No one heard him when he sang them on stage or when they heard his music on the jukebox. You only heard an image of who you thought MJ was.

    This was something he absolutely needed to do to shock the shit out of people and wake them up to more than just his music.

    There are very serious issues happening in our world and if you continue to overlook it you will be taken way out of your comfort level more than just this hoax has done.

    I suggest you seriously start paying attention to the issues presented during this hoax and learn what is going on before it is to late. Stop worrying about the why of the hoax and educate yourself.

    MJ has exposed some very dangerous things while doing this hoax, things that put his life in danger. Do you honestly think MJ would sacrifice his LIFE if it wasn't a serious issue for the world to WAKE UP to what is going on around us being done by our GOVTS.?

    Alot of my post go unread or responded to because it appears that many of you would rather continue to be in the dark and denial. This is a serious thing here not just a hoax or some publicity stunt for MJ's selfish reasons or a study group experience.

    There is elements of a study being done for sure but, we ALL need to play a role in it and REALLY STUDY the issues being presented that maybe a little uncomfortable to think about.

    Now I do not post much and when I do it is usually on the lines of important things needing to be addressed. I enjoy the adventure but, I enjoy knowledge way more than petty threads about nonsense theories.

    Peace
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  • bluegurl201bluegurl201 Posts: 167
    That was the first thing I thought back in late June/July. As much as I don't believe that is the (only) reason today, I wouldn't care if it was. Whatever his reasons are, this hoax is brilliant and I will take off my hat for him and make a deep bow...
    <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Opps sorry but that's true. L.O.V.E
  • PinkTopazPinkTopaz Posts: 1,013
    That was the first thing I thought back in late June/July. As much as I don't believe that is the (only) reason today, I wouldn't care if it was. Whatever his reasons are, this hoax is brilliant and I will take off my hat for him and make a deep bow...
    That's exactly what I said, Sou! *applauds Michael*
  • misha86misha86 Posts: 508
    Great topic!

    If this was just for publicity i actually wouldnt be mad at all and i would say that it worked and here is why:

    I, being honest, had not paid mike much attention since the 90s everything they ever said about him was bad so i just stopped listening, i did watch bashit and made sure he was found not guilty but for the most part i didnt really follow him like that. when he "died" i couldnt get over it and thats how i started to watch his interview more and more....and learned more about him that i ever would,heard songs i never heard,interviews i hadnt seen and read the conspiricy book and the j.randy guys book...that alone makes this hoax worth it..realizing that he wasnt the person i thought he had became but much more! i can go on and on about what i have learned but im not...lol

    reason number 2 why i wouldnt be mad is that it taught me to question EVERYTHING in the media, just like how we seen the BS in his death story i can see the BS in most stories printed now and words can not express how much that has changed my life..again another big thank you to mike

    reason number 3 is the NWO rather you believe in it or not or that mike was MK ultra or not it is still worth looking into and again a life changer for me, i hadnt read a book in so long b4 this and now im constantly at the library and ordering books so i can be more aware

    reason number 4 the whole thing about the clues, how genuis is that! there are clues going back to the 80s! who else could have thought of that! even when i thought this was only about a movie i thought that was hella tight how he had people and sources basicly speaking to US!

    reason number 5 is the introduction to his family, being a huge janet and mike fan i actually enjoyed the jackson show and seeing his brothers and mikes neices and nephews! to see a postive black family means alot to me!none of them in jail, they all seem to be good fathers, the neices and nephews seem to be doing good for them selfs, well spoken, attractive..lol i enjoyed all of them! especially Siggy <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> . I think there great and im glad they got some shine!

    and with that said there is really no way that this is SOLELY about publiclicy because alot of things were brung up and brought to our attention that if you used it you could have grown as a person like i feel i did....and if mike is watching thank you, thank you, thank you
  • I love your post Girl Saturday and to be honest i've always thought this was MJ's reason. Since December 2008 it's been a rollercoaster MJ wise, MJ dies from a drug over dose then we're told no this was a hoax, then Ian Halperin says he has 6 months to live and then MJ announcing he was doing a comeback like no other performer with 50 shows and then 6 months after Ian Halperin announed MJ was dying guess what MJ "dies" which I find way too convienent. MJ never did anything average ever! and you're right he is a perfectionist and average just will not do.
    MJ also liked to play games with the media, the oxygen chamber story, elephant man bones, MJ seen out in a wheel chair he played with the media and was a man of mystery. MJ knew mystery would give him a lasting career, the man isn't stupid he's a genius and knows how to keep himself in the news. Just like what's happening since June 25th, he's more in the news now than he has in past 5 years.
    I personally could never imagine MJ doing an average comeback like alot of stars have done in the past 5 years.
    YES UR TOTALLY RIGHT MJ KNOWS VERY WELL HOW TO STAY IN LIMELIGHT...WELL HE IS ALSO KNOWN FOR HIS PUBLIC STUNTS N BEING A MYSTERIES MAN FOR DECADES. MAY BE HIS COME BACK TOUR WOULD BE THE BIGGEST IN THE HISTORY OF MUSIC .. HE IS A MAGICIAN ,SHOWMAN N A GENIUS WHEN IT COMES TO HIS CAREER.
  • I think he may have many reasons for hoaxing his death. First I think he was in danger of somekind, Second they don't call him a genius for nothing. He has a performance art contract that he could do anything he wants in the name of art. I think he has a very creative imagination and that he may have wanted to raise social consicness and have people close to him debunk some of the junk so to speak in This is it the main trailor did say discover the man you only thought you knew. Who knows I don't think it was for money or record sales I think it may be part of a movie and him regaining his thrown as King of Pop <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
  • MJ_BadMJ_Bad Posts: 19
    If that was the reason, I wouldn"t mind. It would be a great revenge to play with stupid media like that after everything they have been doing to him for decades, it would just be a bad-ass thing.
    He doesn"t owe anything to anyone. He is simply THE KING !!!!!
  • i know i will be standing alone here, but if this is just a publicity stunt - then i dont think this was his best move

    i must admit i am starting to think he is gone.

    i have felt that he didnt or couldnt do the world tour that aeg had planned for him - i thought fair enough.
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