Criticism about TS

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  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    But since there is so much controversy over all this, I will keep my info to myself. You all can continue to read and discuss the tabloid shit in all the articles, including the ones from TMZ. You can all focus on garbage just like Michael wants... Oh wait that isn't what he said was it. I think he actually said something like skip the trash and find the substance, read between the lines but obviously many people never received that memo...


    Wait a minute, did I get it wrong? Are you saying that we're "focusing" on garbage but you save us and show the important parts to us? We can NOT find any of them WITHOUT you? WoW, how modest you are Serenity! I've always praised you and your posts BUT this doesn't mean that you're the ONLY one who finds great things! We're all making our investigation here and we have our own minds to what to focus on! Actually I don't believe that TMZ is giving a clue with the letters "all the time". Yes, of course there're things but we can find them without you too! I didn't like the way you underestimate the believers. Afterall, I hope you keep your info to yourself.
  • But since there is so much controversy over all this, I will keep my info to myself. You all can continue to read and discuss the tabloid shit in all the articles, including the ones from TMZ. You can all focus on garbage just like Michael wants... Oh wait that isn't what he said was it. I think he actually said something like skip the trash and find the substance, read between the lines but obviously many people never received that memo...


    Wait a minute, did I get it wrong? Are you saying that we're "focusing" on garbage but you save us and show the important parts to us? We can NOT find any of them WITHOUT you? WoW, how modest you are Serenity! I've always praised you and your posts BUT this doesn't mean that you're the ONLY one who finds great things! We're all making our investigation here and we have our own minds to what to focus on! Actually I don't believe that TMZ is giving a clue with the letters "all the time". Yes, of course there're things but we can find them without you too! I didn't like the way you underestimate the believers. Afterall, I hope you keep your info to yourself.

    Breath in...breath out...have a good night sleep...and reread the messages tomorrow.

    I think the news and events of today have been bombarding us all, and taking a little bit of rest wouldn't harm at this moment. We're all here for the same reason, and there's absolutely no need for attacking each other.

    EVERYONE is entitled to post his/her findings, and if you don't like some of the post you can chose to skip them.
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    Hey Serenity, just a quick post to say how much I LOVE you and appreciate all your effort and research here for the benefit of our common goal of unravelling this mystery. Much LOVE to you my sister.
  • But since there is so much controversy over all this, I will keep my info to myself. You all can continue to read and discuss the tabloid shit in all the articles, including the ones from TMZ. You can all focus on garbage just like Michael wants... Oh wait that isn't what he said was it. I think he actually said something like skip the trash and find the substance, read between the lines but obviously many people never received that memo...


    Wait a minute, did I get it wrong? Are you saying that we're "focusing" on garbage but you save us and show the important parts to us? We can NOT find any of them WITHOUT you? WoW, how modest you are Serenity! I've always praised you and your posts BUT this doesn't mean that you're the ONLY one who finds great things! We're all making our investigation here and we have our own minds to what to focus on! Actually I don't believe that TMZ is giving a clue with the letters "all the time". Yes, of course there're things but we can find them without you too! I didn't like the way you underestimate the believers. Afterall, I hope you keep your info to yourself.

    Don't jump on me. I never said "We can NOT find any of them WITHOUT you?"
    I was pretty upset and angry when I wrote my posts yesterday and go ahead find them without me then. I have had enough of this abuse and that is exactly what it is a thread dedicated to bashing me; taking my words out of context.

    Everyone here has the right to their opinions but you don't have the right to bash individuals. As it seems that I my posts are "way too long" and not worth reading, maybe I should keep the information to myself and no longer post.

    Oh and by the way...
    I do know some things that I haven't shared and why?
    Just as TS said "because if I told you how I know them you wouldn't believe me anyway."

    Here's a clue, it's the very first video I made in regards to Michael Jackson and I posted this video in a thread months after I originally created the video.
    http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7567&hilit=+psychic

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    L.O.V.E. & Light
  • Hey Serenity, just a quick post to say how much I LOVE you and appreciate all your effort and research here for the benefit of our common goal of unravelling this mystery. Much LOVE to you my sister.

    I haven't had more than 2-3 hours of sleep a night in the last year, seems I have developed chronic insominia. I have been harassed, bullied, and called all kinds of names, including "wacko", all for telling the truth, investigating, researching and sharing that information. I wasn't a fan but something happened on June 25th that changed my life forever. I am not looking for answers, mine have already been answered. I was on forums to try to help bring the truth to light, seems I am failing.
  • To Serenitys Dream,

    Do NOT worry yourself over the naysayers and haters, they exist for a reason. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    I am a believer... in ALL things positive, but I also have a "reality" of "knowing" negative as well. The trials and tribulations we face are merely "tests" for us to overcome and make us stronger.

    When people are given certain gifts and great abilities, they most certainly will be challenged. The "tests" are given simply (in my opinion) to see if we are worthy to keep the abilities bestowed upon us. With great power and abilities comes great responsibility.

    Do NOT become discouraged at the negativity towards you Serenity... just know you have a friend in me who believes in your WORK and contributions to this forum.

    I also face the same challenges...Many would NOT believe me if I said what I have "known" or felt. So in saying that, I too have also kept much to myself. This was about learning and some things can not be just "told" to the people, some things they must find on their own or it would not mean as much to them. Everyone also has "free will" to choose at the end of the day what to believe in. Truth or deception, it is all needed to weed out the strong from the weak. Personal perception and interpretation is ones "own" truth and reality.

    God Bless you Serenity. You are a gift to the world, remember that always.

    Peace
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    This is my original post taken from your starting thread on "Is Michael psychic"...
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    BUTTERFLY EFFECT^^^^^^^

    I absolutely agree with this video. I am a firm believer in the fact that we are ALL spiritually connected, through energy and a higher power.

    Whatever philosophy you choose to believe in, it ALL resembles the same starting and ending point.

    I will not go into great detail of what I feel because it is too complicated to explain. I am not the subject of this hoax. I do however posess highly intuitive abilities when I choose to be OPEN and not close my mind and heart/soul off from it.

    I have been tormented ALOT recently in my own SOUL from the pain of MJ and the world's pain.

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    MOTHMAN PROPHECIES^^^^^^^


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    DRAGONFLY^^^^^^^
    Here are 3 good movies to watch, these will explain the phenomenon of energy, L.O.V.E.= Law Of Vibrational Energy, spiritual connections, and how one thing can and will start a reaction globally.

    Good job to the maker of this video, KUDOS!

    Peace
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  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Please calm down, I Always liked Michael, and like Others I Do Not Know What Happened to me on 25 June 2009, Not my how to Explain Behavior, I Have Losses HAD great in my life, my mother's biggest .. Earlier as I said Do Not know how to Explain this.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    But since there is so much controversy over all this, I will keep my info to myself. You all can continue to read and discuss the tabloid shit in all the articles, including the ones from TMZ. You can all focus on garbage just like Michael wants... Oh wait that isn't what he said was it. I think he actually said something like skip the trash and find the substance, read between the lines but obviously many people never received that memo...


    Wait a minute, did I get it wrong? Are you saying that we're "focusing" on garbage but you save us and show the important parts to us? We can NOT find any of them WITHOUT you? WoW, how modest you are Serenity! I've always praised you and your posts BUT this doesn't mean that you're the ONLY one who finds great things! We're all making our investigation here and we have our own minds to what to focus on! Actually I don't believe that TMZ is giving a clue with the letters "all the time". Yes, of course there're things but we can find them without you too! I didn't like the way you underestimate the believers. Afterall, I hope you keep your info to yourself.

    Don't jump on me. I never said "We can NOT find any of them WITHOUT you?" and I was pretty pissed off when I wrote that yesterday and go ahead find them without me then. I have had enough of this abuse and that is exactly what it is a thread dedicated to bashing me, taking my words out of context.

    Everyone here has the right to their opinions but you don't have the right to bash individuals. As it seems that I am not really a member of theses forums, I will keep my information to myself and no longer post.

    Oh and by the way...
    I do know some things that I haven't shared and why?
    Just as TS said "because if I told you how I know them you wouldn't believe me anyway."

    Here's a clue, it's the very first video I made in regards to Michael Jackson and I posted this video in a thread months after I originally created the video.
    http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7567&hilit=+psychic

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    L.O.V.E. & Light

    Serenity, I just wanted to know if everybody can have these capacities ? I mean are they inherent to our human nature but hidden for some reason ? You seem to know a lot on this subject and I'm interested.
  • Subject: Criticism about TS
    Serenity, I just wanted to know if everybody can have these capacities ? I mean are they inherent to our human nature but hidden for some reason ? You seem to know a lot on this subject and I'm interested.

    Yes, we all have them. In some people they are just more naturally developed. Similar to some one who has skills at math, science, music, dancing etc.

    In some people they are dormant in others they are not maximized but they can be developed through Mediation, chakra exercises and nutrition.

    Nutrition because things such as fluoride bind to the Pineal Gland in the brain, which is connected to the "third eye" and cause it to not function. Other things such as mercury, which is supposedly used as a preservative in vaccines. Mercury is a heavy metal which also builds up in the body. Mercury is poison as is fluoride. Genetically modified food are also very unhealthy and disturb the bodies balance and functioning.


    Pineal Gland - is the sixth chakra whose awakening is linked to prophecy and and increased psychic awareness as consciousness ascends. The pineal gland, or third eye, is located in the geometric center of the brain. This correlates to the location of the Great Pyramid in the center of the physical planet. This pineal gland is activated by Light, and it controls the various bio-rhythms of the body. It works in harmony with the hypothalamus gland which directs the body's thirst, hunger, sexual desire and the biological clock that determines our aging process. When it awakens, one feels a pressure at the base of the brain.

    While the physiological function of the pineal gland has been unknown until recent times, mystical traditions and esoteric schools have long known this area in the middle of the brain to be the connecting link between the physical and spiritual worlds. Considered the most powerful and highest source of ethereal energy available to humans, the pineal gland has always been important in initiating supernatural powers. Development of psychic talents has been closely associated with this organ of higher vision.

    To activate the 'third eye' is to raise one's frequency and moving into higher consciousness - all is a consciousness experience perceived through the Eye of Time or Third Eye. Meditation, Visualization Yoga, and all forms of Out of Body travel, open the Third Eye and allow you to 'see' beyond the physical. As you practice, you will get it faster and more frequently. Your psychic abilities will increase as well as your dream time messages. You may first begin with your eyes closed, but as you practice, you will be able to open your third eye by focusing your attention and receiving messages with your physical eyes open. Planetary vibration/frequency is accelerating exponentially, allowing souls to peer into other realms far more easily than in the past. Frequency will continue to rise until consciousness evolves out of the physical in the next few years.
    http://www.crystalinks.com/thirdeyepineal.html

    20 Meditation Tips For Beginners
    http://www.intent.com/blog/2009/03/24/20-meditation-tips-beginners

    Activate and Stimulate Your Chakras
    http://healing.about.com/cs/chakras/a/aa_chakracises.htm

    how to activate the chakras open the third eye and awaken kundalini energy healing
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/13826191/how-to-activate-the-chakras-open-the-third-eye-and-awaken-kundalini-energy-healing

    HEALTH EFFECTS: Fluoride & the Pineal Gland
    Up until the 1990s, no research had ever been conducted to determine the impact of fluoride on the pineal gland - a small gland located between the two hemispheres of the brain that regulates the production of the hormone melatonin. Melatonin is a hormone that helps regulate the onset of puberty and helps protect the body from cell damage caused by free radicals.

    It is now known - thanks to the meticulous research of Dr. Jennifer Luke from the University of Surrey in England - that the pineal gland is the primary target of fluoride accumulation within the body.

    The soft tissue of the adult pineal gland contains more fluoride than any other soft tissue in the body - a level of fluoride (~300 ppm) capable of inhibiting enzymes.

    The pineal gland also contains hard tissue (hyroxyapatite crystals), and this hard tissue accumulates more fluoride (up to 21,000 ppm) than any other hard tissue in the body (e.g. teeth and bone).

    After finding that the pineal gland is a major target for fluoride accumulation in humans, Dr. Luke conducted animal experiments to determine if the accumulated fluoride could impact the functioning of the gland - particulalry the gland's regulation of melatonin.

    Luke found that animals treated with fluoride had lower levels of circulating melatonin, as reflected by reduced levels of melatonin metabolites in the animals' urine. This reduced level of circulating melatonin was accompanied - as might be expected - by an earlier onset of puberty in the fluoride-treated female animals.

    Luke summarized her human and animal findings as follows:

    "In conclusion, the human pineal gland contains the highest concentration of fluoride in the body. Fluoride is associated with depressed pineal melatonin synthesis by prepubertal gerbils and an accelerated onset of sexual maturation in the female gerbil. The results strengthen the hypothesis that the pineal has a role in the timing of the onset of puberty. Whether or not fluoride interferes with pineal function in humans requires further investigation."
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pineal/

    Most SSRI Antidepressants Contain Fluoride
    SSRI antidepressants, except in a few instances, are fluorinated molecules.These include citalopram, escitalopram oxalate, fluoxetine, fluvoxamine maleate, and paroxetine. A notable exception is sertraline. Because of the difficulty of biological systems in dealing with metabolism of fluorinated molecules, fluorinated antibiotics and antidepressants are among the major fluorinated organics found in treated city sewage and wastewater.
    http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/most-ssri-antidepressants-contain-fluoride/

    Other drugs and things that also contain fluoride - Not necessarily a complete list
    Antipsychotics such as fluphenazine, HIV protease inhibitors such as tipranavir, antibiotics such as ofloxacin and trovafloxacin, and anesthetics such as halothane. Fluorine has applications in imaging techniques like PET scan, radio-active isotope studies, in teflon used in cardiac bypass grafts, surgical implants and even in the teflon coating over our non-stick pans!
    Fluoro polymers like teflon are chemically inert and biocompatible. So less chances of the body rejecting such material after it is introduced in the body.

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    Listen to the interviewers laugh as the Scientist, Dr. Hilleman, discusses the the terrible things he knew were in the vaccines he was developing; unbelievable. <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: -->

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    If you also recall Mo & Souza's blog on the Flouride & items found in the room with Michael at the "death scene", Fluoride was very much present; in toothpaste, bottled water etc. Perhaps the message wasn't that Michael was being poisoned with this stuff but that WE ALL ARE.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Thank you Serenity for your answer I really appreciate. I am myself still searching about how to develop my capacities because I always had the feeling that each human being has something special to bring for humanity.

    The interview of Dr. Hilleman put me ill at ease because of the laughters. What he's talking about and the truths he reveals are very incredible. I knew that vaccines were not what they seem but to hear it from someone who worked for the drug industry is something else. The governments are really our worst enemies because they act in the darkness with our blind consent. They really want to separate us from spirituality and prevent us from reaching higher consciousness.
    God bless you.
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Serenitys_Dream, unique gifted people who have ideas different from the masses usually have to walk alone a fair bit, and take a fair bit of ridicule and abuse. It's been that way for those people throughout history. But their contributions to our world are enormous. I'm not saying you are the best thinker on this site, but you are one of the main information gurus. I'm not saying I'm in total agreement with you on everything, but I simply love your exploring mind. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> I feel it would be a huge loss to this site if you retreated. However maybe you do need a rest, to rejuvenate and gain fresh insight. I just now saw your first video on, Is Michael Psychic? I absolutely agree, and think it's a very plausible explanation for the songs having so many clues for this hoax. I had posted elsewhere that I believe it was a God-thing all along, God orchestrating the hoax, along with Michael a willing participant, yeilding to Him and being obedient (as Mary wife of Joseph did). Though I've been raised /immersed in Evangelical Christian teaching I am no longer restricted to any box for thinking. I don't believe Michael was either, though many would like him to hold to only orthodox doctrine. God can not be put in a box. He fills the universe. We don't KNOW all of our reality and other dimensions, where we came from or where we are going. The Bible is only a guide, a main one, but it is also in levels of understanding. I honestly feel certain themes about Michael Jackson's hoax remain almost entirely unexplored because our preconceived thinking gets in the way. Hence, "Do you think for yourself"? I get so excited when anybody radically explores-- the sky's the limit! <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> We need explorers like you! I dread the day people slowly give up and start leaving this site in droves, because no one is bringing anything new to the table, the threads become stale, repetitious, and generic. Michael was the opposite of that! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    But since there is so much controversy over all this, I will keep my info to myself. You all can continue to read and discuss the tabloid shit in all the articles, including the ones from TMZ. You can all focus on garbage just like Michael wants... Oh wait that isn't what he said was it. I think he actually said something like skip the trash and find the substance, read between the lines but obviously many people never received that memo...


    Wait a minute, did I get it wrong? Are you saying that we're "focusing" on garbage but you save us and show the important parts to us? We can NOT find any of them WITHOUT you? WoW, how modest you are Serenity! I've always praised you and your posts BUT this doesn't mean that you're the ONLY one who finds great things! We're all making our investigation here and we have our own minds to what to focus on! Actually I don't believe that TMZ is giving a clue with the letters "all the time". Yes, of course there're things but we can find them without you too! I didn't like the way you underestimate the believers. Afterall, I hope you keep your info to yourself.

    Don't jump on me. I never said "We can NOT find any of them WITHOUT you?"
    I was pretty upset and angry when I wrote my posts yesterday and go ahead find them without me then. I have had enough of this abuse and that is exactly what it is a thread dedicated to bashing me; taking my words out of context.

    Everyone here has the right to their opinions but you don't have the right to bash individuals. As it seems that I my posts are "way too long" and not worth reading, maybe I should keep the information to myself and no longer post.

    I'm sorry but am I the one who is BASHING individuals here? You're the one who wrote that we couldn't find any clue without you and we could only focus to trash media! If this is NOT bashing, I don't know what it is. Anyone who read that post would understand what I understand. So there's noone here taking your words out of context. And I didn't jump on you, you started the discussion with the things you wrote to all believers. As I've written before I've always praised and appreciated you but the thing you wrote there disturbed me. I didn't say anything to your long posts, I never complained about them so I don't know where you got that idea. You might be tired etc when you wrote that but you could edit your post and fix it. Or you could apologize from us and it could be all fine. I'm not going to argue with you about it no more but to help people and then say "without my help, you would do nothing" is NOT a good attitude. I personally don't care anymore if you want to keep on posting or not. Not after you made this post about believers. I'm not going to beg you like others do.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    But since there is so much controversy over all this, I will keep my info to myself. You all can continue to read and discuss the tabloid shit in all the articles, including the ones from TMZ. You can all focus on garbage just like Michael wants... Oh wait that isn't what he said was it. I think he actually said something like skip the trash and find the substance, read between the lines but obviously many people never received that memo...


    Wait a minute, did I get it wrong? Are you saying that we're "focusing" on garbage but you save us and show the important parts to us? We can NOT find any of them WITHOUT you? WoW, how modest you are Serenity! I've always praised you and your posts BUT this doesn't mean that you're the ONLY one who finds great things! We're all making our investigation here and we have our own minds to what to focus on! Actually I don't believe that TMZ is giving a clue with the letters "all the time". Yes, of course there're things but we can find them without you too! I didn't like the way you underestimate the believers. Afterall, I hope you keep your info to yourself.

    Breath in...breath out...have a good night sleep...and reread the messages tomorrow.

    I think the news and events of today have been bombarding us all, and taking a little bit of rest wouldn't harm at this moment. We're all here for the same reason, and there's absolutely no need for attacking each other.

    EVERYONE is entitled to post his/her findings, and if you don't like some of the post you can chose to skip them.


    I'm sorry Mo but can you skip it when people humiliating you? She wrote that we can only focus to media trash and thanx to her we see some information. This's an insult to us,to all believers. She could be the only person who was finding clues on the forum (although she's not) BUT the thing she wrote seemed right to you? Are we going to discuss about who finds more information, who finds less? Is this a competition? And finding more clues makes you a leader on the forum? The thing she did is like helping someone but saying "You would do nothing if I wasn't here". This attitude disturbed me a lot! And I wrote what I think about it. I'm not going to discuss anything about it no more. But Serenity disappointed me. From a smart person like her, I would expect an apology or just edit her post.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Well, since this thread is going off topic and I'm done with all the fighting: a lock.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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