Justice4MJ Has Gift4MJ ... But Will They GiveIt2MJ?

edited January 1970 in News
Justice4MJ Has Gift4MJ ... But Will They GiveIt2MJ?
Originally posted 44 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

A group of Michael Jackson's most rabid passionate fans have put together a token of their love and affection to give to MJ on the anniversary of his death -- but they may not get the chance.

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Justice4MJ -- the group that previously said nothing will keep them from being at MJ's tomb on June 25 -- has put together a hope chest filled with photos and messages for the King of Pop. A rep for the group says they have hundreds of messages from people all over the world.

The group says they've been told by people at Forest Lawn Cemetery the box will be placed on the steps near MJ's tomb on June 25 -- but a rep for Forest Lawn told us that won't be happening since it's against the rules.

Sounds like the staff at Forest Lawn might want to sign up for combat pay this week.

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  • mjfansince4mjfansince4 Posts: 1,030
    i spy a "liberian girl" photo
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    A hope chest? For someone they think is dead? I can imagine what's in those letters . Those people are gonna get all their hopes and wishes come true when MJ BAM's. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • DancingTheDreamDancingTheDream Posts: 4,923
    Hmmm
  • nefarinefari Posts: 1,227
    Yep they are upset too at TMZ at the moment for talking about this as this chest has been in the works for quite some time. I just cannot get the nagging thoughts out of my head about exactly who is running that show over there.....exactly who is the over seer of this group. They go off the deep end if a BeLIEver sets one foot on their "territory".
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    They are the "Fans of Southern Califronia"
    They are always the ones protesting for Justice for Mj outside the courthouses. And they have been going to Forest Lawn on the 3rd of every month to leave gifts and flowers from fans all over the world.....I believe they are playing a part in this too...

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  • To me this box looks like it has a key on the side, like a childs "clockwork toy" or a music box which opens when you wind it up? These toys were "way back when" MJ and I (Im 56) were children.

    Just sayin <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • looking4truthlooking4truth Posts: 1,450
    ...But Will They GiveIt2MJ? Nice subtle double meaning there. You can read that as if they will physically hand it to him or take it to his tomb.
  • To me this box looks like it has a key on the side, like a childs "clockwork toy" or a music box which opens when you wind it up? These toys were "way back when" MJ and I (Im 56) were children.

    Just sayin <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->


    I agree, and Michael's song, "Little Susie" begins with the winding up and playing of a musical box!!!!
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    If mjfansince4 was the first thing I saw, the Girl of Liberia, the photo was taken in a kitchen ... <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
  • cin_pytcin_pyt Posts: 632
    <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Shamone! Mike gonna grant a lot of wishes this summer heart you Mike <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    Who's the jack in the box <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • Missyb007Missyb007 Posts: 727
    Now this is weird, Will the Giveit2MJ ?...
    "But they might not get a chance"

    DUH!, if someone is supposed to be dead, how can you say "Will they give it to MJ?" and " They might not get the chance" ... cause well.. how are you supposed to give letters etc to someone who died?

    Something to think about heah <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • mmzmmz Posts: 450
    ...Tmz really enjoys playing with us...
    Think about it..
    how do you think it has worked? The fans have sent a photo of the chest (taken in a kitchen),to tmz for making this news coming out?..not credible at all..
    Have we seen that kitchen somewhere else? I was just wondering...maybe in the jackson dinasty?Is it Jermaine kitchen?
    ANd the liberian girl picture on the chest has a meaning,I am sure...
  • To me this box looks like it has a key on the side, like a childs "clockwork toy" or a music box which opens when you wind it up? These toys were "way back when" MJ and I (Im 56) were children.

    Just sayin <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->


    I agree, and Michael's song, "Little Susie" begins with the winding up and playing of a musical box!!!!


    WOW good catch I didnt realise that! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->

    <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • Justice4MJ Has Gift4MJ ... But Will They GiveIt2MJ?
    Originally posted 44 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

    A group of Michael Jackson's most rabid passionate fans have put together a token of their love and affection to
    give to MJ on the anniversary of his death -- but they may not get the chance.

    0619-justice4mj-trunk-ex.jpg

    Justice4MJ -- the group that previously said nothing will keep them from being at MJ's tomb on June 25 -- has
    put together a hope chest filled with photos and messages for the King of Pop. A rep for the group says they
    have hundreds of messages from people all over the world.

    The group says they've been told by people at Forest Lawn Cemetery the box will be placed on the steps near
    MJ's tomb on June 25 -- but a rep for Forest Lawn told us that won't be happening since it's against the rules.

    Sounds like the staff at Forest Lawn might want to sign up for combat pay this week.

    June 21 2010 12:45 PM
    4, 5, 6 = 6 & 111, 222

    this is also 6, 3, 6 = 15 = 6

    6 + 2 + 1 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 + 5 = 24
    2 + 4 = 6

    So we could have 666 0r 3 x 6 = 36 both are the numbers of Satan/Lucifer and his works, if you believe in that.

    Properties of the number 36
    Represent the devil or Satan, as well as the evil which it personifies.
    http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu36.php

    JHGBWTG

    JHG - Journal of Human Genetics
    There are several version of this Journal, American, European, Indian, Japanese etc. All of them include studies in regards to genetics such as: all aspects of human genetics, including gene cloning and mapping, linkage analysis, mutational analysis, evolution, cancer genetics, and gene therapy, as well as genetic and functional analysis of animal models of disease or behavior.

    The American Journal of Human Genetics
    The Human Genome Project and Eugenic Concerns
    The U.S. Human Genome project is the largest scientific project funded by the federal government since the Apollo Moon Project. The overall effect from this project should be of great benefit to humankind because it will provide a better understanding both of single gene defects and multifactorial or familial diseases such as diabetes, arteriosclerosis, and cancer. At first this will lead to more exact ways of screening and diagnosing genetic disease, and later it will lead, in many if not most instances, to specific genetic cures. However, in the past, in both the U.S. and German eugenic movements genetic information has been misused. Hopefully, by remembering and understanding the past injustices and inhumanity of negative eugenics, further misuse of scientific information can be avoided.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1918077/

    "Modern genetics is eugenics." — George Annas, M.D., bioethics professor at Boston University, speaking at the U.S. Holocaust Museum in Washington

    BW - Black and White Target Group
    There are numerous genetic studies that are looking at genetic differences between Black and White populations. A long standing debate concerns RACE & INTELLIGENCE


    Race & Intelligence
    Race and intelligence research investigates differences in the distributions of cognitive skill measurements among human racial groups. Much of the debate in this area centers around questions of how intelligence is quantified, and the relative influence that genetics and environment have on both intelligence and attempts to measure it. Debates in popular science and academic research over the possible relation between racial divisions and differences in intelligence originally began as a comparison of African Americans and Caucasians in the United States, but were later extended to other ethno-racial groups and regions of the world. In the US, intelligence quotient (IQ) test scores show statistical differences, with the average score of the African American population being lower - and that of the Asian American population being higher - than that of the White American population (based on the self-identification of those tested). These measured differences in the average value are typically fractions of a standard deviation, meaning that they only describe a shift in the center of the measured values, while the distribution is much broader and with considerable overlap between groups.

    There are no universally accepted definitions of either race or intelligence in academia, and many factors that could potentially influence the development of intelligence have been advanced to explain the racial IQ gap. Thomas Bouchard and colleagues at the University of Minnesota expressed the view in 1990 that genetics is the primary factor in individual IQ scores, with environmental and cultural factors playing a smaller role. On the other hand, Bouchard and colleagues argue that "even highly heritable traits can be strongly manipulated by the environment, so heritability has little if anything to do with controllability." J. Philippe Rushton and Arthur Jensen wrote in 2005 that a variety of studies from around the world show that between 50-80% of the White-Black IQ gap is attributed to genetics, evoking a point-by-point response from Richard E. Nisbett in 2009. The controversial view that a significant portion of the racial IQ gap is ultimately of genetic origin has been advanced by academics such as Jensen, Rushton, Richard Lynn, and Hans Eysenck. The claim that the IQ gap has a genetic component met with widespread criticism in the popular media, particularly after the publication of "The Bell Curve."

    A report issued by the APA in 1996 concluded that the racial IQ gap between African American and White Americans has remained relatively stable since IQ testing began, and concluded that the gap is not the result of "any obvious biases in the construction or administration of tests, nor does it simply reflect differences in socioeconomic status". More recent publications have disagreed about whether the gap is shrinking or remaining stable.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence

    So in other words they conclude that any difference in measure intelligence has NOTHING TO DO with the design of the tests, how the tests are administered, whether or not a person is wealthy or not (think food, think educational opportunities, think living environment) but can be attribute to RACE & GENETICS. Total BS!

    TG - Target Group
    Individuals or groups who benefit directly from an intervention or the main stakeholders of a programme or project that are expected to gain from the results of that programme or project

    Ask yourself "Who is promoting this and what are the benefits of making such claims as those above?" I will leave that for you to decide.

    AJT - American Journal of Theology
    The American Journal of Theology & Philosophy is a scholarly journal dedicated to the creative interchange of ideas between theologians and philosophers on some of the most critical intellectual and ethical issues of our time.
    http://www.press.uillinois.edu/journals/ajtp.html

    Theology is the study of a god or, more generally, the study of religious faith, practice, and experience, or of spirituality.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theologians

    American Journal of Theology Volume 29 • Number 2 - May 2008
    Social Ethics in the Making: Method, History, White Supremacism, Social Salvation
    http://typotest.uts.columbia.edu/uploads/media/Dorrien_Address.pdf

    MS - Margret Sanger
    Margret Sanger
    At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

    Sanger's other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as "scientific" and "humanitarian." And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains." These "strains" included the "shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South."

    Not to be outdone by her followers, Margaret Sanger spoke of sterilizing those she designated as "unfit," a plan she said would be the "salvation of American civilization.: And she also spike of those who were "irresponsible and reckless," among whom she included those " whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers." She further contended that "there is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped." That many Americans of African origin constituted a segment of Sanger considered "unfit" cannot be easily refuted.
    http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

    The Negro Project - Margaret Sanger's Eugenic Plan for Black Americans
    Margaret Sanger aligned herself with the eugenicists whose ideology prevailed in the early 20th century. Eugenicists strongly espoused racial supremacy and “purity,” particularly of the “Aryan” race. Eugenicists hoped to purify the bloodlines and improve the race by encouraging the “fit” to reproduce and the “unfit” to restrict their reproduction. They sought to contain the “inferior” races through segregation, sterilization, birth control and abortion.

    Sanger embraced Malthusian eugenics. Thomas Robert Malthus, a 19th-century cleric and professor of political economy, believed a population time bomb threatened the existence of the human race. He viewed social problems such as poverty, deprivation and hunger as evidence of this “population crisis.” According to writer George Grant, Malthus condemned charities and other forms of benevolence, because he believed they only exacerbated the problems. His answer was to restrict population growth of certain groups of people. His theories of population growth and economic stability became the basis for national and international social policy. Grant quotes from Malthus' magnum opus, An Essay on the Principle of Population, published in six editions from 1798 to 1826:

    All children born, beyond what would be required to keep up the population to a desired level, must necessarily perish, unless room is made for them by the deaths of grown persons. We should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavoring to impede, the operations of nature in producing this mortality.

    Malthus' disciples believed if Western civilization were to survive, the physically unfit, the materially poor, the spiritually diseased, the racially inferior, and the mentally incompetent had to be suppressed and isolated—or even, perhaps, eliminated. His disciples felt the subtler and more “scientific” approaches of education, contraception, sterilization and abortion were more “practical and acceptable ways” to ease the pressures of the alleged overpopulation.

    Critics of Malthusianism said the group “produced a new vocabulary of mumbo-jumbo. It was all hard-headed, scientific and relentless.” Further, historical facts have proved the Malthusian mathematical scheme regarding overpopulation to be inaccurate, though many still believe them.

    Despite the falsehoods of Malthus' overpopulation claims, Sanger nonetheless immersed herself in Malthusian eugenics. Grant wrote she argued for birth control using the “scientifically verified” threat of poverty, sickness, racial tension and overpopulation as its background. Sanger's publication, The Birth Control Review (founded in 1917) regularly published pro-eugenic articles from eugenicists, such as Ernst Rudin.7 Although Sanger ceased editing The Birth Control Review in 1929, the ABCL continued to use it as a platform for eugenic ideas.

    Sanger built the work of the ABCL, and, ultimately, Planned Parenthood, on the ideas and resources of the eugenics movement. Grant reported that “virtually all of the organization's board members were eugenicists.” Eugenicists financed the early projects, from the opening of birth control clinics to the publishing of “revolutionary” literature. Eugenicists comprised the speakers at conferences, authors of literature and the providers of services “almost without exception.” And Planned Parenthood's international work was originally housed in the offices of the Eugenics Society. The two organizations were intertwined for years.

    The ABCL became a legal entity on April 22, 1922, in New York. Before that, Sanger illegally operated a birth control clinic in October 1916, in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn, New York, which eventually closed. The clinic serviced the poor immigrants who heavily populated the area—those deemed “unfit” to reproduce.

    Sanger's early writings clearly reflected Malthus' influence. She writes:
    "Organized charity itself is the symptom of a malignant social disease. Those vast, complex, interrelated organizations aiming to control and to diminish the spread of misery and destitution and all the menacing evils that spring out of this sinisterly fertile soil, are the surest sign that our civilization has bred, is breeding and perpetuating constantly increasing numbers of defectives, delinquents and dependents."

    In another passage, she decries the burden of “human waste” on society:
    "It [charity] encourages the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ."

    She concluded,
    "The most serious charge that can be brought against modern “benevolence” is that it encourages the perpetuation of defectives, delinquents and dependents. These are the most dangerous elements in the world community, the most devastating curse on human progress and expression."

    The Review printed an excerpt of an address Sanger gave in 1926. In it she said:
    "It now remains for the U.S. government to set a sensible example to the world by offering a bonus or yearly pension to all obviously unfit parents who allow themselves to be sterilized by harmless and scientific means. In this way the moron and the diseased would have no posterity to inherit their unhappy condition. The number of the feeble-minded would decrease and a heavy burden would be lifted from the shoulders of the fit."

    Sanger said a “bonus” would be “wise and profitable” and “the salvation of American civilization.”14 She presented her ideas to Mr. C. Harold Smith (of the New York Evening World) on “the welfare committee” in New York City. She said, “people must be helped to help themselves.” Any plan or program that would make them “dependent upon doles and charities” is “paternalistic” and would not be “of any permanent value.” She included an essay (what she called a “program of public welfare,”) entitled “We Must Breed a Race of Thoroughbreds.”15

    In it she argued that birth control clinics, or bureaus, should be established “in which men and women will be taught the science of parenthood and the science of breeding.” For this was the way “to breed out of the race the scourges of transmissible disease, mental defect, poverty, lawlessness, crime ... since these classes would be decreasing in number instead of breeding like weeds [emphasis added].”16

    Her program called for women to receive birth control advice in various situations, including where:
    * the woman or man had a “transmissible” disease such as insanity, feeble-mindedness, epilepsy, syphilis, etc.;
    * the children already born were “subnormal or feeble-minded”;
    * the father's wages were “inadequate ... to provide for more children.”


    Sanger said “such a plan would ... reduce the birthrate among the diseased, the sickly, the poverty stricken and anti-social classes, elements unable to provide for themselves, and the burden of which we are all forced to carry.”17
    Sanger had openly embraced Malthusian eugenics, and it shaped her actions in the ensuing years.

    READ MORE at the link: http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/population/the_negro_project.htm

    Eugenics - REPOST
    Eugenics is the study and practice of selective breeding applied to humans, with the aim of improving the species. In a historical and broader sense, eugenics can also be a study of "improving human genetic qualities." Advocates of eugenics sought to counter what they regarded as dysgenic dynamics within the human gene pool. Specifically, in regard to the continuation of congenital disorders and factors impacting overall societal intelligence elating to the heritability of IQ.

    Eugenics was widely popular in the early decades of the 20th century, but has largely fallen into disrepute after having become associated with Nazi Germany. Since the postwar period, both the public and the scientific communities have associated eugenics with Nazi abuses, such as enforced racial hygiene, human experimentation, and the extermination of "undesired" population groups. However, developments in genetic, genomic, and reproductive technologies at the end of the 20th century have raised many new questions and concerns about the meaning of eugenics and its ethical and moral status in the modern era.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

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    Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation
    May 24, 2009
    America's richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a 'disastrous' environmental, social and industrial threat

    SOME of America’s leading billionaires have met secretly to consider how their wealth could be used to slow the growth of the world’s population and speed up improvements in health and education.

    The philanthropists who attended a summit convened on the initiative of Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, discussed joining forces to overcome political and religious obstacles to change.

    Described as the Good Club by one insider it included David Rockefeller Jr, the patriarch of America’s wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, and the media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey.

    They gathered at the home of Sir Paul Nurse, a British Nobel prize biochemist and president of the private Rockefeller University, in Manhattan on May 5. The informal afternoon session was so discreet that some of the billionaires’ aides were told they were at “security briefings”.

    Taking their cue from Gates they agreed that overpopulation was a priority. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which gives more than £2 billion a year to good causes, attended the Rockefeller summit. ...a consensus emerged that they would back a strategy in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental, social and industrial threat.


    Why all the secrecy? They wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying anything they said would end up in the newspapers, painting them as an alternative world government,” he said.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350303.ece

    I find that last paragraph very revealing...
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    VERY INTERESTING RESPOND THAT WE GOT FROM THE JUSTICE 4 MJ GROUP ABOUT THE BOX!!!

    We asked Justice group if this box issue is real or not and here's their answers:

    Justice4MJ : "TMZ creates those stories. They are all over our pages. We have nothing to do with what TMZ does."

    I'm sure that there's another Liberian Girl pictures inside that box too <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    I Love You TMZ! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • samsuperbsamsuperb Posts: 495
    VERY INTERESTING RESPOND THAT WE GOT FROM THE JUSTICE 4 MJ GROUP ABOUT THE BOX!!!

    We asked Justice group if this box issue is real or not and here's their answers:

    Justice4MJ : "TMZ creates those stories. They are all over our pages. We have nothing to do with what TMZ does."

    I'm sure that there's another Liberian Girl pictures inside that box too <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    I Love You TMZ! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
    i am starting to like tmz also. but sometimes they do piss me off
  • KirscheKirsche Posts: 2,082
    i spy a "liberian girl" photo


    yeah same here ;=)
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Serenitys_Dream, well as ever. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> A detail about AIDS

    Also pursued identify the traits of the genetic composition of some no-blancos, blacks and indigenous ethnic groups, leveraging the strength of your immune system that desplegase induced acceleration in the production of antibodies and develop a particular virus can be attracted by the genetic composition of these races. The produced synthetic biological agent has the property of activated when in contact with certain types of human cells of ethnic groups which is attracted. This explains the statistical results showing the high rate of global pollution in the no-blancos groups. The virus was created to primarily targeting specific ethnic groups. Current statistics on African American (AA) with AIDS in the same U.S. show this gruesome reality: 23 AA women infected, only 1 is white; for every 8 AA men infected only 1 is white <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    When I saw this chest my first thought (excuse my imagination) was chivalry, Knights (Knights token), secrets. Then I jumped to Knights Templar and the belief that they discovered witchcraft books under what they have called Salomon's Temple (Israel) and the belief that they may have discovered the ark of the Covenant and kept the secret...

    Token:

    "Knight's token
    A knight's token is a token of esteem from a lady, carried into battle or tournament by a knight. The token was often a handkerchief or a small piece of cloth that carried a special value. The token was typically displayed on the Knight's standard along with his family crest. "

    Maybe that the content of this chest are our messages here on the forum which support and will help Michael for the fight that is coming. Will Michael display our messages somewhere ?

    "to betoken(n.)
    Something intended or supposed to represent or indicate another thing or an event; a sign; a symbol; as, the rainbow is a token of God's covenant established with Noah."

    These messages are a token of our commitment "established" with Michael to be part of the Army of Love. Maybe he needs or wants more messages of support ?

    Can also be a token coin, makes me think of Smooth Criminal when Michael throws a coin into the jukebox. Michael will soon set something new in motion from a distance and with precision ?

    Chest:
    Can also mean: "The chest is a part of the anatomy of humans and various other animals. It is sometimes referred to as the thorax."
    Makes me think of Randy's alleged chest pains. The kitchen is often said to be the heart of the house. Randy's kitchen ? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    Black, white and red are said to be Michael's favorite colours and on the two photos he is wearing a red shirt. Always old photos of Michael. There are 2 photos, "GiveIt2MJ", two MJs ?
    But also "4MJ" + "4MJ" + "2MJ" = 10 = 1+0= 1MJ, the child and the adult (hence the photos).
    Is it a reference to the numerous topics on doubles ? In the end there is only one Michael.

    Ok I think I'm gonna stop here because I feel like I'm misinterpreting <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> . Just seems that there's more to the story. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • VERY INTERESTING RESPOND THAT WE GOT FROM THE JUSTICE 4 MJ GROUP ABOUT THE BOX!!!

    We asked Justice group if this box issue is real or not and here's their answers:

    Justice4MJ : "TMZ creates those stories. They are all over our pages. We have nothing to do with what TMZ does."

    I'm sure that there's another Liberian Girl pictures inside that box too <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    I Love You TMZ! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
    i am starting to like tmz also. but sometimes they do piss me off


    So did one of them send the picture to TMZ?? They have nothing to do with what TMZ does?? WOW - another tidbit by TMZ if that's the case.
  • melodymelody Posts: 196
    So did one of them send the picture to TMZ??

    Most likely scenario, TMZ went onto their website and snatched the picture. (<!-- m -->http://www.mjfsc.org/<!-- m -->)

    This picture-chest project has been ongoing for a long time; I received a message on facebook a while ago (weeks, if not months ago) from one of their FB groups asking international fans to send photos if they couldn't make the trip to forest lawn on the 25th.

    @Nefari: Naturally. They believe the man is dead afterall. They don't wanna hear anything but "RIP" or "Justice4MJ". As for the leader of the "Chest" project, check the admins of their FB page for the event (<!-- m -->http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=1 ... 241&ref=ts<!-- m -->). I presume they're also the leaders of the group.

    Main FB page: <!-- m -->http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=1 ... ref=search<!-- m -->

    Their twitter accounts:
    <!-- m -->http://twitter.com/MJFSC_<!-- m -->
    <!-- m -->http://twitter.com/ejacobs29<!-- m -->
    <!-- m -->http://twitter.com/ksst<!-- m -->
    <!-- m -->http://twitter.com/cowboymjj<!-- m -->

    I'm not sure about them having an active part in the hoax - knowingly anyway. They seem like regular fans to me, mourning ones to be exact.
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    They have some association with the family and a lot of people in MJ's life, i.e. Rev Gatlin, Aphrodite Jones, and others. They are friends on twitter with all the Jackson family and they follow each other.
  • melodymelody Posts: 196
    They have some association with the family and a lot of people in MJ's life, i.e. Rev Gatlin, Aphrodite Jones, and others. They are friends on twitter with all the Jackson family and they follow each other.

    Neither Randy (@randyjackson8), Jermaine (@ALLJACK5ONS), Janet (@JanetJackson), Tito (@titojackson5), Marlon (doesn't have twitter), or Jackie(@JackieJackson5) follow "Michael Jackson Fans of South California" (@MJFSC_) or any of the group's leaders on twitter. I follow the Jacksons too, it doesn't make me their friend.

    At the very least, the family may follow back MJ fans/clubs which have the most followers for the purpose of dispersing information to as many people as possible, but I doubt it extends farther than that. And looking at the Jacksons' "following" list, they're not using MJFSC to do that.

    I know Hulya Tipi & mj4justice (not the same as MJFSC btw) has interviewed Rev. Gatlin, Aphrodite Jones, Brian Oxman, and Julien's Auction, but what they say to the fans does not make them doubt Michael's death, quite the opposite actually. I've listened in before. Mention the word "beLIEver" in their Ustream interviews/events and the chatroom gets hostile.

    Please tell me if you meant some other type of association that MJFSC has w/the family b/c what I mentioned above is all I know =P
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    Not as a "group" I know a couple of them personally and their twitter names. The Jacksons DO follow them.
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