"Gone Too Soon"

reading_on

I looked before I posted. I hope I am not doubling up.

I so enjoyed this documentary. Ian was so good to Michael. He blatantly told the world that Michael was not a child molester. Proudly and firmly he told the world that the facts said there was no truth to it. He allowed people to speak on Michael's behalf to reiterate that he was no child molester. Calmly and firmly they told the world that the truth about those accusations will come to light.

He didn't talk about relationships at all, and I know some of you thought that he would and that his book was bad because he quoted what others had told him. This documentary made me feel like Michael has somebody in his corner. Somebody that really investigated things.

He interviewed people that really cared for Michael, you can tell. However Frank Dileo said something that struck me odd. Something like this. The nurse shook her head and said he's been dead for 2 hours. He's brain dead.

karen-ishealive

I watched this last night and Ian Halperin in my honest opinion really helped MJ. I watched it with my dad and he was like OMG throughout it all, he didn't know the truth because the media only showed the world BS and kept the truth secret. Ian Halperin showed MJ in true light as a lovely man and more importantly an innocent man. This doc was excellent and I do not believe Ian Halperin is out to get MJ he is helping him and I don't see many others doing it.

reading_on

You know, I just thought of something that I found compelling and very telling that happened on that documentary. Ian did have a journalist on there that obviously didn't like Michael and I think he did that on purpose. You can see where she would say her view on things and then when all the other people were commenting her words looked like rubbish.

Loud

I have seen this documentary too (just by chance as so often when it comes to TV) and I thought it was lovely, but there was nothing what gave me the feeling that Michael is alive. For me it was interseting that Ian Halperin says when he analysed MJs situation he only could come to the conclusion that MJ has to die in six month. The first reason was not heath but that he has needs money <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> and then he continued to explain..

reading_on

I have seen this documentary too (just by chance as so often when it comes to TV) and I thought it was lovely, but there was nothing what gave me the feeling that Michael is alive. For me it was interseting that Ian Halperin says when he analysed MJs situation he only could come to the conclusion that MJ has to die in six month. The first reason was not heath but that he has needs money <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> and then he continued to explain..

I think that anyone could have come to that conclusion. Michael was riding around in wheel chairs and nobody knew why. I don't know why people got so upset when Ian said what it did about 6 months, because everybody assumed he was in poor health. He just looked unhealthy and with Michael you can never tell if it is real or imagined.

Loud

I have seen this documentary too (just by chance as so often when it comes to TV) and I thought it was lovely, but there was nothing what gave me the feeling that Michael is alive. For me it was interseting that Ian Halperin says when he analysed MJs situation he only could come to the conclusion that MJ has to die in six month. The first reason was not heath but that he has needs money <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> and then he continued to explain..

I think that anyone could have come to that conclusion. Michael was riding around in wheel chairs and nobody knew why. I don't know why people got so upset when Ian said what it did about 6 months, because everybody assumed he was in poor health. He just looked unhealthy and with Michael you can never tell if it is real or imagined.

Yes of course but I would have expected that his analyse would go like thi... he has to die because he was ill but instead he mentioned the money first and then went on with the point that Michael was shown in the media in a wheel chair and so on...to me it soundet like it was prepared. First money problems and second how to solve it. I didn´t expect him to start with the money topic but health <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

Grazzia

i am the only one here that didnt really enjoyed it?
i really think that the fact that Ian told ppl that MJ was not a pedofile helped...
i was pissed about the lady in red (the journalist)
seemed a bit strange that he said that he disguised himself and pretend to be a gay (or wathever) to obtain some interviews.
it pissed me off that he kept asking the trainer guy (sorry i forgot his name)thing about MJ + why using a camera for that...

and most of ... he said that he thinks that prince and paris are klein's kids and blanket is omer's!
WTF????? <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->

hesouttamylife

It is amazing how people automatically discredit Halperin becasue of a "few" things he said. He has a book about MJ with about a million pages <!-- s --><!-- s --> of which most of it is based on some truth. But because he said some things like Michael was taking drugs???? he was, wasn't he <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->, then the fanatics discredit his whole book because they refuse to see any flaws in Michael's character. Even Lynton Guest gives his overall approval of the book, give or take a few misleading statements. I have learned to read with a critical eye. If you close your mind to an entire work because you don't agree on some issues, you stand to miss the information that might be enlightening.

karen-ishealive

It is amazing how people automatically discredit Halperin becasue of a "few" things he said. He has a book about MJ with about a million pages <!-- s --><!-- s --> of which most of it is based on some truth. But because he said some things like Michael was taking drugs???? he was, wasn't he <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->, then the fanatics discredit his whole book because they refuse to see any flaws in Michael's character. Even Lynton Guest gives his overall approval of the book, give or take a few misleading statements. I have learned to read with a critical eye. If you close your mind to an entire work because you don't agree on some issues, you stand to miss the information that might be enlightening.

Well said, I couldn't agree with you more.

taniahy

I looked before I posted. I hope I am not doubling up.

I so enjoyed this documentary. Ian was so good to Michael. He blatantly told the world that Michael was not a child molester. Proudly and firmly he told the world that the facts said there was no truth to it. He allowed people to speak on Michael's behalf to reiterate that he was no child molester. Calmly and firmly they told the world that the truth about those accusations will come to light.

He didn't talk about relationships at all, and I know some of you thought that he would and that his book was bad because he quoted what others had told him. This documentary made me feel like Michael has somebody in his corner. Somebody that really investigated things.

He interviewed people that really cared for Michael, you can tell. However Frank Dileo said something that struck me odd. Something like this. The nurse shook her head and said he's been dead for 2 hours. He's brain dead.

Hi, Can someone give me a link from the film because I am from Bulgaria and it showed! Please!

Zen

by reading_on » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:16 pm
I looked before I posted. I hope I am not doubling up.

I so enjoyed this documentary. Ian was so good to Michael. He blatantly told the world that Michael was not a child molester. Proudly and firmly he told the world that the facts said there was no truth to it. He allowed people to speak on Michael's behalf to reiterate that he was no child molester. Calmly and firmly they told the world that the truth about those accusations will come to light.

He didn't talk about relationships at all, and I know some of you thought that he would and that his book was bad because he quoted what others had told him. This documentary made me feel like Michael has somebody in his corner. Somebody that really investigated things.

He interviewed people that really cared for Michael, you can tell. However Frank Dileo said something that struck me odd. Something like this. The nurse shook her head and said he's been dead for 2 hours. He's brain dead.

Thank you for posting this.
I have written before and tried to let people KNOW that Ian was NOT
out to get Mike. At least 5 posts I say this.
Some yahoos even dispel Ian and NEVER read his book or anything else
he write, such as on Kurt Cobain. a LOT of what he says about Kurt
is/was true, and some came out years later.
He never lied, he said the book on Michael Jackson was written on
SOURCES primary.
Good or bad, there is always some truth in the middle. and by way,
I AGREE with Ian on his descriptive word "spin-masters".

AvaMarie

I had to work so I missed it. Do you guys know if it will it come back on?

reading_on

i am the only one here that didnt really enjoyed it?
i really think that the fact that Ian told ppl that MJ was not a pedofile helped...
i was pissed about the lady in red (the journalist)
seemed a bit strange that he said that he disguised himself and pretend to be a gay (or wathever) to obtain some interviews.
it pissed me off that he kept asking the trainer guy (sorry i forgot his name)thing about MJ + why using a camera for that...

and most of ... he said that he thinks that prince and paris are klein's kids and blanket is omer's!
WTF????? <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->

You may be upset about some of the things because you may have misunderstood him. The lady in red was an on purpose interview to show the world how there were mean people..lol.
If you read the book, he says he disguises himself as a gay hairdresser, to interview other hairdressers etc. I don't think there is any argument that there are many gay hairdressers in Hollywood, so he had to look authentic.
The trainer misunderstood Ian's question. Ian didn't ask what color Michael was, he ask something else but Lou stated it anyway. Lou wasn't being mean, but he could have left it out I suppose.
Who knows who the biological parents of those kids are. You simply can't. Prince does look like Arnold. That is not even the point in Michael's life. Ian tried to point out that no matter who the sperm came from, Michael was a loving, giving and wonderful father. Michael may have chose to have donors because of all of his health conditions. Perhaps he didn't want his children to suffer like him. Maybe, this too played a role in him needing his children so badly. If he found out he had genetic problems and may pass them on, he may have resigned to never having natural children. That doesn't mean he didn't want them. That doesn't make them less his children. Fathers are proven out by their actions not by their sperm.

reading_on

I hope this is a link for it, it might not be playing yet or it is a preview because I can't get it to play.
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voiceforthesilent

i am the only one here that didnt really enjoyed it?
i really think that the fact that Ian told ppl that MJ was not a pedofile helped...
i was pissed about the lady in red (the journalist)
seemed a bit strange that he said that he disguised himself and pretend to be a gay (or wathever) to obtain some interviews.
it pissed me off that he kept asking the trainer guy (sorry i forgot his name)thing about MJ + why using a camera for that...

and most of ... he said that he thinks that prince and paris are klein's kids and blanket is omer's!
WTF????? <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->

Thank you for sharing your view. I didn't watch the documentary but these statements would have been enough for me to turn it off. Maybe I'll have the chance to view this one day but for now it doesn't sound like I missed too much that I didn't already know.
1) Michael was not a pedophile
2) Michael was not a pedophile
3) Michael was not a pedophile
4) The children...who really cares who's the biological father - Michael raised them and that is all that matters (I believe he's the real father anyway).
5) He used the media as much as the media used him as nobody can tell when he rides around in a wheelchair if that is real or made up (I thought when I first saw those pictures in the media that is was fake - the person wheeling him has a quirky smile like they are having fun with the situation). In fact, I questioned whether that was really Michael - and I wasn't even a huge follower at the time.
6) Michael was not a pedophile

That's all that matters to me - that the world understands the real MIchael - the one who was framed but fought back. Also - why are people so obsessed with who the real father is? People aren't concerned about this with other celebrities who have adopted. It's just because its Michael Jackson. They need to stop the nonsense.

techdiva

I had to work so I missed it. Do you guys know if it will it come back on?

It's on right now on preview guide. I guess they will be airing all day.

suspicious mind

i am the only one here that didnt really enjoyed it?
i really think that the fact that Ian told ppl that MJ was not a pedofile helped...
i was pissed about the lady in red (the journalist)
seemed a bit strange that he said that he disguised himself and pretend to be a gay (or wathever) to obtain some interviews.
it pissed me off that he kept asking the trainer guy (sorry i forgot his name)thing about MJ + why using a camera for that...

and most of ... he said that he thinks that prince and paris are klein's kids and blanket is omer's!
WTF????? <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->

You may be upset about some of the things because you may have misunderstood him. The lady in red was an on purpose interview to show the world how there were mean people..lol.
If you read the book, he says he disguises himself as a gay hairdresser, to interview other hairdressers etc. I don't think there is any argument that there are many gay hairdressers in Hollywood, so he had to look authentic.
The trainer misunderstood Ian's question. Ian didn't ask what color Michael was, he ask something else but Lou stated it anyway. Lou wasn't being mean, but he could have left it out I suppose.
Who knows who the biological parents of those kids are. You simply can't. Prince does look like Arnold. That is not even the point in Michael's life. Ian tried to point out that no matter who the sperm came from, Michael was a loving, giving and wonderful father. Michael may have chose to have donors because of all of his health conditions. Perhaps he didn't want his children to suffer like him. Maybe, this too played a role in him needing his children so badly. If he found out he had genetic problems and may pass them on, he may have resigned to never having natural children. That doesn't mean he didn't want them. That doesn't make them less his children. Fathers are proven out by their actions not by their sperm.

it seems like i remember from way back when that lou ferrigno is deaf or nearly deaf so that could have been an issue.

reading_on

i am the only one here that didnt really enjoyed it?
i really think that the fact that Ian told ppl that MJ was not a pedofile helped...
i was pissed about the lady in red (the journalist)
seemed a bit strange that he said that he disguised himself and pretend to be a gay (or wathever) to obtain some interviews.
it pissed me off that he kept asking the trainer guy (sorry i forgot his name)thing about MJ + why using a camera for that...

and most of ... he said that he thinks that prince and paris are klein's kids and blanket is omer's!
WTF????? <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->

You may be upset about some of the things because you may have misunderstood him. The lady in red was an on purpose interview to show the world how there were mean people..lol.
If you read the book, he says he disguises himself as a gay hairdresser, to interview other hairdressers etc. I don't think there is any argument that there are many gay hairdressers in Hollywood, so he had to look authentic.
The trainer misunderstood Ian's question. Ian didn't ask what color Michael was, he ask something else but Lou stated it anyway. Lou wasn't being mean, but he could have left it out I suppose.
Who knows who the biological parents of those kids are. You simply can't. Prince does look like Arnold. That is not even the point in Michael's life. Ian tried to point out that no matter who the sperm came from, Michael was a loving, giving and wonderful father. Michael may have chose to have donors because of all of his health conditions. Perhaps he didn't want his children to suffer like him. Maybe, this too played a role in him needing his children so badly. If he found out he had genetic problems and may pass them on, he may have resigned to never having natural children. That doesn't mean he didn't want them. That doesn't make them less his children. Fathers are proven out by their actions not by their sperm.

it seems like i remember from way back when that lou ferrigno is deaf or nearly deaf so that could have been an issue.

I think I read that somewhere myself, and that very well could have played a part in why he answered that way.

teine21

It was nice that he researched & told the world that he was not a child molester. But he only was able to say that because he was researching it TO PROVE he was. He said it himself. He set out to prove he was just another guilty man with a high paid legal team to get him off. That shows his opinion of him. He admitted that he was wrong because he was & everyone is already finding that out. But Ian also makes very outlandish claims with no facts to back them up. I've looked at his book before & to me, he's just as bad as the rest of the greedy people who make up lies for money. I also don't find any proof behind his claims that the kids are not MJ's. Blanket looks just like MJ & Prince has vitiligo, how do you explain that? Omer is close to them either because he is MJ's son or because he lived with MJ & was close to him. There's even videos of Omer during Christmas playing with Prince & Paris. There's photos of him holding Blanket as a baby. So he's been in their lives. Just because you see him holding Omer's hand & he has long black hair does NOT mean he is Omer's. It's a ridiculous claim. Michael said once that if he wasn't married or something, he would adopt children. So if the kids weren't his, I don't think he'd have a problem saying I adopted them or something. He firmly says, they are mine. I used my sperm. I'd believe anything he says before someone like Ian who's job is to write books about people, with little to no truth & making money off of them.

mjboogie

i am the only one here that didnt really enjoyed it?
i really think that the fact that Ian told ppl that MJ was not a pedofile helped...
i was pissed about the lady in red (the journalist)
seemed a bit strange that he said that he disguised himself and pretend to be a gay (or wathever) to obtain some interviews.
it pissed me off that he kept asking the trainer guy (sorry i forgot his name)thing about MJ + why using a camera for that...

and most of ... he said that he thinks that prince and paris are klein's kids and blanket is omer's!
WTF????? <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->

Yep!!! Exactly when he got on MJ's kids I was like WTF??? BLANKET do not look anything like no dam Omer!!!! People need to leave his kids alone, hell he raised them!!!! They are his! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->

techdiva

i am the only one here that didnt really enjoyed it?
i really think that the fact that Ian told ppl that MJ was not a pedofile helped...
i was pissed about the lady in red (the journalist)
seemed a bit strange that he said that he disguised himself and pretend to be a gay (or wathever) to obtain some interviews.
it pissed me off that he kept asking the trainer guy (sorry i forgot his name)thing about MJ + why using a camera for that...

and most of ... he said that he thinks that prince and paris are klein's kids and blanket is omer's!
WTF????? <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->

Yep!!! Exactly when he got on MJ's kids I was like WTF??? BLANKET do not look anything like no dam Omer!!!! People need to leave his kids alone, hell he raised them!!!! They are his! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->

You got that right!!! Blanket doesn't look a thing like Omer. Leave the kids alone. MJ is the father of those kids.

Grazzia

ok,i didnt say that i dont like all off it
it pissed me off especially the fact that he said that the kids are not his!

PLEAAASEEE tell me that MJ was so stupid and ignorant and heartless to chose a sperm donor from a guy who has VITILIGO!!!
this pissed me off!that ppl still think that if mj was(is) different and exatravagant on some things he would pick someone else to father his kids!
is this i dont like!
when ppl will understand that ALL of his kids ARE really HIS?!

blanket is the clon of him!
paris LOOKS like latoya when she was youg.she looks like her mother.is debbie's clon
and PRINE!well here is everyone's problem.prince is not his huh?
well with prince is so simple
when you look at prince you must say he is mj's kid
why?

because of this:



and this



and freaking THIS



prince has jaafar's smile









and..



im already offtopic...

on: i read ian's book about mj and i likeed it at first but the last half was like " i dont really think he is innocent" or " why he loves so much kids?there must be another reason for his interest for them"
WTF??

about this documentary i didnt like hes accent and the way he talked in some parts of it.i dont know i felt like he was amuzed ..i dunno how to explain.i didnt like.
i didnt like all of it,i told you.
i dont like ian as a person or the person he shows in this documentary.
he took advantaje off the fact that he knew those things about mike but this doesnt mean that he really believes in what he says in the documentary.maybe he did it,maybe he realised it just because is michael jackson and because michael jackson is dead.

hope i didnt upset anyone and i hope u'll look carrefully at those pics and think about it
i really wish ppl stop saying "i doesnt matter who the father of those kids is.MJ raised them so he is the fathe,even he is not the biological father" thing...

msteetee34

I personally didn't care for this documentary as well. I find Ian Halperin to be a bit creepy. It just seem odd the way he sitting in a dark room and typing things while talking about the things he discovered about MJ. It reminded me of Alfred Hitchcock or something. His undercover disguises were so cheesy. It's obvious he was a journalist trying to get info. The only thing I did appreciate about the documentary is the facts he presented about MJ being innocent. He had those tapes of MJ speaking and he also had evidence of Evan Chandlers father saying he was out to set MJ up. I just find it odd that he always talking about he know MJ had 6 months to live. Oh really how he know that exactly? Sometimes it kinda make you wonder if he had any contact with MJ. How the heck did he obtain those tapes of MJ speaking?

reading_on

I personally didn't care for this documentary as well. I find Ian Halperin to be a bit creepy. It just seem odd the way he sitting in a dark room and typing things while talking about the things he discovered about MJ. It reminded me of Alfred Hitchcock or something. His undercover disguises were so cheesy. It's obvious he was a journalist trying to get info. The only thing I did appreciate about the documentary is the facts he presented about MJ being innocent. He had those tapes of MJ speaking and he also had evidence of Evan Chandlers father saying he was out to set MJ up. I just find it odd that he always talking about he know MJ had 6 months to live. Oh really how he know that exactly? Sometimes it kinda make you wonder if he had any contact with MJ. How the heck did he obtain those tapes of MJ speaking?

His undercover outfits WERE cheesy..lol. I think you might call those tapes an AHA moment. I think he talked to MJ. I think people just want to bash anybody that talks about MJ when half of them were Michael's plants <!-- s:-) -->:-)<!-- s:-) -->

reading_on

ok,i didnt say that i dont like all off it
it pissed me off especially the fact that he said that the kids are not his!

PLEAAASEEE tell me that MJ was so stupid and ignorant and heartless to chose a sperm donor from a guy who has VITILIGO!!!
this pissed me off!that ppl still think that if mj was(is) different and exatravagant on some things he would pick someone else to father his kids!
is this i dont like!
when ppl will understand that ALL of his kids ARE really HIS?!

blanket is the clon of him!
paris LOOKS like latoya when she was youg.she looks like her mother.is debbie's clon
and PRINE!well here is everyone's problem.prince is not his huh?
well with prince is so simple
when you look at prince you must say he is mj's kid
why?

because of this:



and this



and freaking THIS



prince has jaafar's smile









and..



im already offtopic...

on: i read ian's book about mj and i likeed it at first but the last half was like " i dont really think he is innocent" or " why he loves so much kids?there must be another reason for his interest for them"
WTF??

about this documentary i didnt like hes accent and the way he talked in some parts of it.i dont know i felt like he was amuzed ..i dunno how to explain.i didnt like.
i didnt like all of it,i told you.
i dont like ian as a person or the person he shows in this documentary.
he took advantaje off the fact that he knew those things about mike but this doesnt mean that he really believes in what he says in the documentary.maybe he did it,maybe he realised it just because is michael jackson and because michael jackson is dead.

hope i didnt upset anyone and i hope u'll look carrefully at those pics and think about it
i really wish ppl stop saying "i doesnt matter who the father of those kids is.MJ raised them so he is the fathe,even he is not the biological father" thing...

That place under Prince's arm could be a birthmark or something else. It could be vitiligo. The people I know with vitiligo it started on their hands.

Edited to say I hate seeing pictures of the kids because we know that Michael would not have wanted that, and God forbid, if that is really vitiligo Michael would be mortified that people keep posting this picture of Prince.

Grazzia

That place under Prince's arm could be a birthmark or something else. It could be vitiligo. The people I know with vitiligo it started on their hands.

Edited to say I hate seeing pictures of the kids because we know that Michael would not have wanted that, and God forbid, if that is really vitiligo Michael would be mortified that people keep posting this picture of Prince.

those pics are all over the internet and if i post it here is not gonna be a murder.
i believe that if michael is alive he knows about the pics...

there are pics of his hand

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im sorry to say this but some ppl really believe trush then mj himself...

so yeah...is a birthmark...right?
im not gonna say what i already said in my previous post
wake up and see what in front of your eyes...if this is one of the reason we arguing about how are we going to change the world?
IF michael would see this he would be dissapointed.and because we are posting pictures that are all over the intervet with his kids,but because we still doubt about him being the real father...