can anyone tell me how did he get his hands like that?
Fake hands ? <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I guess the same way they disguised his face. I am a little skeptical.. why would Michael disguise himself like dave dave, what purpose did he have?
To go to the burial at FL and to let us who beLIEve to know that he's out there, we just have to keep watching...
You are not answering my question, I know that MJ is alive, I am saying what purpose did he have to disguise himself and go to LKL show... What did he want to acheive? This is my question..
It seems to me your question has already been answered, but since you still are asking, maybe this will help: 1) he did this because whatever he said in this interview had some kind of significance and is something he wanted us all to know. Maybe a hidden message, such as "the visit to encino was impromtu and kept secret by my mother." Idk if thats really a hidden message but whatever Michael is saying is important for us to know. 2) Its just another step in the whole ordeal. Nothing is as it seems. Michael loves disguises and acting as a new character. Maybe he just did this for himself, to challenge the public and see if people would notice?
When people where talking about Dave's Suit being to big for him, I remembered this scene... "Am I Not turtley (Dave Dave/MJ) enuff for you?" LOL
I do believe this was MJ in disguise as Dave Dave on LKL 100%, I have posted my thoughts on this in another thread but, I just wanted to add this little fun tid bit.
Peace
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Something else that caught my attention after Grace posted the actual text of the words spoken, and then reviewing the video again.
LOOK at the HOUSE in the background, connect the dots to what Miko says about "He has a very nice Compound" LOL
LOOK at the gate and the top of the gate, Do we know for a fact this is Forest Lawn, or is that what we are supposed to believe because Larry said so and then we are shown a clip of a HOUSE but it looks like the ENCINO COMPOUND IMO... LOL
Trickery at it's finest.
KING: I believe that's the hearse carrying the body into Forest Lawn. He will be interred -- it looks like a beautiful place they have for him, Miko.
BRANDO: It's very nice. He has a very nice compound.
Ok,
I am just adding more on to my original post of clues from DaveDave/MJ "not turtely enuff for us", lol
There was alot of statements made by Dave and clues given in this interview that kicked off the actual hint that THIS is a "hoax".
One was referencing to Paul Mc Cartney.
After the tweeter came online named thisisalmostit he or she gave a clue tweet about
Did Paul die at 09-11-'66 ?
1:21 PM May 3rd via web
Isn't it odd though how Seth seems to splice both accusation stories into one? Saying the kid accused Michael, then it went to trial and after he was found innocent, the kid confessed his dad told him to do it, then the father committed suicide? If he mixed up the facts here maybe he mixed up the DD hospital meeting.
So much contradiction. But what is new?
Yes, I also wondered about the contradiction, but I had never heard this "version" of the "how MJ met the burned boy" story and thought it was interesting that we are hearing someone talk about it now. You are right, these facts may be mixed up - I guess that can happen when you are remembering something from years ago... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
This also makes me wonder - we know there are pictures of Dave with Michael as a child, we know he is credited on the "Invincible" album as "Dave Dave" a member of MJJ Productions, Inc. Staff, DD as "David Rothenberg" in the Leeza interview that mysteriously appeared on youtube on July 2, 2009 ( <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CkETwJY1u<!-- m -->), MJ as DD in the September, 2009 interview on Larry King, then in this interview Marlon mentions DD not by name, but as the burned child that MJ helped (at 3:29) and then this mention of DD again as the burned child in the Seth Riggs video.
Were we just not aware of DD's life-long involvement with MJ before his "death"? Did we just not notice?
And Where are the pics of DD with MJ as an adult? or even as a teenager. DD has a bunch of pics on his myspace, but none of hime with MJ. I mean if he really wanted to put to rest the DD was MJ thing, then show the pics of him with MJ to show the differences.
can anyone tell me how did he get his hands like that?
Fake hands ? <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I guess the same way they disguised his face. I am a little skeptical.. why would Michael disguise himself like dave dave, what purpose did he have?
To go to the burial at FL and to let us who beLIEve to know that he's out there, we just have to keep watching...
You are not answering my question, I know that MJ is alive, I am saying what purpose did he have to disguise himself and go to LKL show... What did he want to acheive? This is my question..
It seems to me your question has already been answered, but since you still are asking, maybe this will help: 1) he did this because whatever he said in this interview had some kind of significance and is something he wanted us all to know. Maybe a hidden message, such as "the visit to encino was impromtu and kept secret by my mother." Idk if thats really a hidden message but whatever Michael is saying is important for us to know. 2) Its just another step in the whole ordeal. Nothing is as it seems. Michael loves disguises and acting as a new character. Maybe he just did this for himself, to challenge the public and see if people would notice?
Yes, I also think he probably wanted to tell us something during that interview. But I guess his main message was said to those people who misunderstood him: "Well, I believe what -- what people fail to realize is that Michael was a human being. Throughout the years, I think he was kind of stigma -- stigmatized by the media. And I believe that was -- that wasn't really helpful to him or to anybody around him.
I believe that Michael was a great person. He has never hurt a soul. And I am happy to have been his friend for all these years and been a dedicated friend."
But IMO the main answer to the question "what purpose did he have to disguise himself and go to LKL show... What did he want to acheive?" is that he wanted us to know that he is alive. At least for me seeing him there is the most convincing evidence for him being alive.
And Where are the pics of DD with MJ as an adult? or even as a teenager. DD has a bunch of pics on his myspace, but none of hime with MJ. I mean if he really wanted to put to rest the DD was MJ thing, then show the pics of him with MJ to show the differences.
If Dave Dave told the world that it was not him but Michael on LKL it would end the hoax, or at least too many people would question that Michael is dead. As Michael hasn't come back yet, he wants to continue the hoax - and I guess DD is helping him to do this.
Isn't it odd though how Seth seems to splice both accusation stories into one? Saying the kid accused Michael, then it went to trial and after he was found innocent, the kid confessed his dad told him to do it, then the father committed suicide? If he mixed up the facts here maybe he mixed up the DD hospital meeting.
So much contradiction. But what is new?
Yes, I also wondered about the contradiction, but I had never heard this "version" of the "how MJ met the burned boy" story and thought it was interesting that we are hearing someone talk about it now. You are right, these facts may be mixed up - I guess that can happen when you are remembering something from years ago... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
This also makes me wonder - we know there are pictures of Dave with Michael as a child, we know he is credited on the "Invincible" album as "Dave Dave" a member of MJJ Productions, Inc. Staff, DD as "David Rothenberg" in the Leeza interview that mysteriously appeared on youtube on July 2, 2009 ( <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CkETwJY1u<!-- m -->), MJ as DD in the September, 2009 interview on Larry King, then in this interview Marlon mentions DD not by name, but as the burned child that MJ helped (at 3:29) and then this mention of DD again as the burned child in the Seth Riggs video.
Were we just not aware of DD's life-long involvement with MJ before his "death"? Did we just not notice?
I think it was also Michael on The Leeza Show. At least that was surely not the real DD.
On the first two comparisons you can see DD from the B&B which was made only one year later (in 1997) than the Leeza interview (in 1996). He looks quite different... His teeth, his lips, his ear, his eyes...
Then I compared three photos of DD from the same year, 1996. The persons on the left and in the middle look the same, but the one on the right...?
Dave Dave on The Leeza Show rather looks similar to Michael IMO.
hi DREAMSandTRUTH,
I really like your comparison work, good job!
But the comparison between DaveDave on Leeza's with other pictures has to bear in mind that DaveDAves's face is distorted, as you can see when comparing Leeza's face to other pictures of her. I don't know why, but the video material from the show is pulling the people's faces apart, it is not how they really look like.
hi DREAMSandTRUTH,
I really like your comparison work, good job!
But the comparison between DaveDave on Leeza's with other pictures has to bear in mind that DaveDAves's face is distorted, as you can see when comparing Leeza's face to other pictures of her. I don't know why, but the video material from the show is pulling the people's faces apart, it is not how they really look like.
I noticed that, and thought of making the photos undistorted/normal, but I didn't want to change them as this is the video we have originally (at least on YouTube). So yes, we have to bear in mind that the photos from the Leeza video are distorted, and watch them in that way...
hi DREAMSandTRUTH,
I really like your comparison work, good job!
But the comparison between DaveDave on Leeza's with other pictures has to bear in mind that DaveDAves's face is distorted, as you can see when comparing Leeza's face to other pictures of her. I don't know why, but the video material from the show is pulling the people's faces apart, it is not how they really look like.
I noticed that, and thought of making the photos undistorted/normal, but I didn't want to change them as this is the video we have originally (at least on YouTube). So yes, we have to bear in mind that the photos from the Leeza video are distorted, and watch them in that way...
The problem is, when we watch the video normal, we can see that DaveDave at Leeza's almost looks the same like in B&B. So either both times it is Michael or not. I spend a lot of time with investigating this, and I didn't come to a certain conclusion, respectively I sometimes doubt about the conclusion I draw.
It would be kind if you would have a look at the tread I started <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=31&t=3344<!-- l --> and tell me your thoughts.
And I really wonder why the Leeza interview was broadcasted on july 2nd 2009 including this distortion. Maybe it was done on purpose, to make DaveDAve look more like Michael?
BTW the voice is something that reminds me a lot of Michael, unfortunately the original tapes of B&B in English are not up on yt anymore.
hi DREAMSandTRUTH,
I really like your comparison work, good job!
But the comparison between DaveDave on Leeza's with other pictures has to bear in mind that DaveDAves's face is distorted, as you can see when comparing Leeza's face to other pictures of her. I don't know why, but the video material from the show is pulling the people's faces apart, it is not how they really look like.
I noticed that, and thought of making the photos undistorted/normal, but I didn't want to change them as this is the video we have originally (at least on YouTube). So yes, we have to bear in mind that the photos from the Leeza video are distorted, and watch them in that way...
The problem is, when we watch the video normal, we can see that DaveDave at Leeza's almost looks the same like in B&B. So either both times it is Michael or not. I spend a lot of time with investigating this, and I didn't come to a certain conclusion, respectively I sometimes doubt about the conclusion I draw.
It would be kind if you would have a look at the tread I started <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=31&t=3344<!-- l --> and tell me your thoughts.
And I really wonder why the Leeza interview was broadcasted on july 2nd 2009 including this distortion. Maybe it was done on purpose, to make DaveDAve look more like Michael?
BTW the voice is something that reminds me a lot of Michael, unfortunately the original tapes of B&B in English are not up on yt anymore.
friendlikeme81, first I want to thank you that you reminded me of the distorted video - I totally forgot to mention it, not only here but in my video about this topic too... (and I also forgot to thank you previously...) I guess it's distorted because it was made in a 4:3 format but was uploaded to YouTube in a 16:9 format, so the picture became wider than normally. I don't know why bimbopatrol (who uploaded it to YT) made it this way, but I guess it's not that important. I first realized that the picture is wider when I made the comparisons between Michael and DD on the Leeza Show for my video. I believed already that it's Michael there, but I saw that his face is wider in that mask/disguise. And not only because of the mask (like the mask he wore on LKL made his face wider IMO) but basically. I thought it's because of the video format. Then I read the thread you started and it helped that you mentioned there that Leeza's face looks different too. This was all before I made my video, so thanks for the help! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Honestly, when I first saw the video about DD in the B&B, I also thought that there is a chance that it's Michael - because of his upper arm and his shoulders. And then I saw you guys thought the same. But as I started to analyze his face more, I became sure that it's the real DD. In my video I made many comparisons of the real DD's face, so to be sure how he looks like - as I was also confused about his different looks, just like you. If you are interested, I suggest to watch the videos (one video actually, but long, so it has 3 parts) I made because I tried to gather everything there about Dave Dave's different looks and it would be too long to post it here. I mentioned these videos on the first page of the topic I started "Comparison photos between DD on LKL and Michael"
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There are the links to my video too.
In a few points I can say that what convinced me that it was the real DD in the B&B and Michael on the Leeza show are the followings:
1, The real DD's right earlobe is basically missing, just like the Dave's in the B&B - but the DD on the Leeza show has a right earlobe.
2, The real DD's skin on his face and his neck is less tense/more damaged, which we can see only when the light is better in the B&B (generally there is not much light, so DD's skin looks better). You can see his damaged skin on the second photo I posted above. But the DD on the Leeza show has a tense and nice skin in the whole video - and there is way more light.
3, DD's face is narrow/longish in the B&B, and as I found, his face has always looked like this. He is especially thin in the B&B but his face still looks longish now, and looked also this way when he was a teenager. The DD's face in the Leeza show is similar to Michael's (except that the video is distorted so it's a bit wider), a little square (watch the chin).
4, DD's teeth in the B&B are less ordered than the DD's on the Leeza show, which suggests that they are different persons (I doubt his teeth got less ordered in one year, as the B&B was made in 1997 and the Leeza show was in 1996).
5, DD in the B&B cannot move his lips in a healthy way, his lower lip is too loose. (you can see it on the photo above but it's more clear when you watch the video). DD in the Leeza show has no problem with his lips, they are healthy.
6, DD in the B&B is a little cross-eyed, like on every photo about the real DD. The DD in the Leeza show has very similar eyes to Michael's eyes - not crossed and the distance between them is bigger.
By the way the picture we have about DD from the Leeza show (when he is sitting in a chair) is I think about the real DD. (the middle photo from the 3 photos above) Watch his missing earlobe - the same as DD's in the B&B (The angles are not the same but his ear looks way more similar to the B&B DD than to the "sofa" DD). And his skin is more damaged and his face is more longish (I don't think the video is that distorted that it made the "sofa" DD's face that much wider). He looks very similar to the picture on the left (from that 3 photos) which was taken the same year.
I guess there is a chance that the video we can see on YT about the Leeza show was re-made just before the hoax. Everything was kept the same, just instead of the real DD they show us Michael as DD. That's why he sits in a sofa in the video and in a chair on the photo. Just a thought...
What I wrote down above is more clear in my video as I used a lot of photo comparisons there.
I've never seen the English version of the B&B unfortunately - but DD's voice on the Leeza show sounds like Michael's voice to me.
IMO the DD in the B&B looks very similar to this photo of him (which is real I guess). He is a little thinner in the B&B, and his skin looks better (probably he had much make-up on, and as I said the light was very low), but his ear, his mouth and chin, and his nose looks the same. His eyes became more open though - I mentioned it in my video that IMO his eyes were operated many times throughout the years (her mother said they were burnt severely).
Dear DREAMSandTRUTH, thank you very much for your thoughts about the B&B. The ear comparison is pretty much convincing. I think it would be hard to fake it.
I have just had a close look at the new pictures DaveDave posted on his Myspace (city pictures), and they make clear that also the hands, arms and the body shape of DD in B&B are most likely those of the real DD. The differences between the pictures that were taken by the press around the same time are still big (DD leaning at the wall), but this may be a result of lightning and makeup.
For comparing the pictures of DD at Leeza's (sitting in armchair and sitting on the sofa) we could take the structure of the black&white cap as a criteria. I tried to make the cap look the same and it shows that the broadness of the face also becomes almost the same.
We wont have a certain proof without analyzing the voice features with special software, which I am not capable of, but to me it definately sounds the same. Being a musician from early childhood I am acoustically trained and the voice similarities between Michael and DD on LKL and on Leeza's are more convincing to me than anything else. (Which doesn't mean that I don't like a good picture comparison <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
Dear DREAMSandTRUTH, thank you very much for your thoughts about the B&B. The ear comparison is pretty much convincing. I think it would be hard to fake it.
I have just had a close look at the new pictures DaveDave posted on his Myspace (city pictures), and they make clear that also the hands, arms and the body shape of DD in B&B are most likely those of the real DD. The differences between the pictures that were taken by the press around the same time are still big (DD leaning at the wall), but this may be a result of lightning and makeup.
For comparing the pictures of DD at Leeza's (sitting in armchair and sitting on the sofa) we could take the structure of the black&white cap as a criteria. I tried to make the cap look the same and it shows that the broadness of the face also becomes almost the same.
We wont have a certain proof without analyzing the voice features with special software, which I am not capable of, but to me it definately sounds the same. Being a musician from early childhood I am acoustically trained and the voice similarities between Michael and DD on LKL and on Leeza's are more convincing to me than anything else. (Which doesn't mean that I don't like a good picture comparison <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
Dear friendlikeme81, thank you for the comparisons you made about DD sitting in the armchair and sitting on the sofa. Yes, ther chins, their jaw lines and there noses look different to me too. And their eyes are very different IMO as well. So even when their caps have the same width, and so the DD's face, who is sitting on the sofa, became much narrower (so you made the unnaturally wide original video narrower) their faces still look quite different.
For me what is the most convincing difference though, is the difference between their teeth and the way they move their lips. If you watch the video from 4:02 you can see a short video of DD from the B&B and then the Leeza video.
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About the voices, which words/sentences do you refer to? I hear that DD on the Leeza show has a very similar voice to Michael's, but what is strange is that both Leeza's and DD's voices are distorted during the whole video - just like the picture we talked about...
DREAMSandTRUTH, I will watch your video later and tell you what I think, also about the voice distortion. I am quite tired at the moment, so I will do that tomorrow.
But before I go for today, there is one thing I wanted to add to the turtle disguise.
DREAMSandTRUTH, I will watch your video later and tell you what I think, also about the voice distortion. I am quite tired at the moment, so I will do that tomorrow.
But before I go for today, there is one thing I wanted to add to the turtle disguise.
DREAMSandTRUTH, I will watch your video later and tell you what I think, also about the voice distortion. I am quite tired at the moment, so I will do that tomorrow.
But before I go for today, there is one thing I wanted to add to the turtle disguise.
Ninja Turtle is related to the hoax investigation?
No, she's just having a little sense of humor. Sometimes you gotta be a little funny on these forums, times get tough on us occasionally, unfortunately. I don't mind the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comment on my thread though. I loved that show like 10 years ago. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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Thank you .. .
Chappie
Ok,
I am just adding more on to my original post of clues from DaveDave/MJ "not turtely enuff for us", lol
There was alot of statements made by Dave and clues given in this interview that kicked off the actual hint that THIS is a "hoax".
One was referencing to Paul Mc Cartney.
After the tweeter came online named thisisalmostit he or she gave a clue tweet about
Did Paul die at 09-11-'66 ?
1:21 PM May 3rd via web
I found this on May 4th, my bad I am late to reveal. OOPS sorry. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
<!-- m -->http://www.beatle.net/articles/paulhoax.html<!-- m -->
Have fun reading.
Peace
Yes, I also wondered about the contradiction, but I had never heard this "version" of the "how MJ met the burned boy" story and thought it was interesting that we are hearing someone talk about it now. You are right, these facts may be mixed up - I guess that can happen when you are remembering something from years ago... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
This also makes me wonder - we know there are pictures of Dave with Michael as a child, we know he is credited on the "Invincible" album as "Dave Dave" a member of MJJ Productions, Inc. Staff, DD as "David Rothenberg" in the Leeza interview that mysteriously appeared on youtube on July 2, 2009 ( <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CkETwJY1u<!-- m -->), MJ as DD in the September, 2009 interview on Larry King, then in this interview Marlon mentions DD not by name, but as the burned child that MJ helped (at 3:29) and then this mention of DD again as the burned child in the Seth Riggs video.
Were we just not aware of DD's life-long involvement with MJ before his "death"? Did we just not notice?
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<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qXu8VFx9I<!-- m -->
"Well, I believe what -- what people fail to realize is that Michael was a human being. Throughout the years, I think he was kind of stigma -- stigmatized by the media. And I believe that was -- that wasn't really helpful to him or to anybody around him.
I believe that Michael was a great person. He has never hurt a soul. And I am happy to have been his friend for all these years and been a dedicated friend."
But IMO the main answer to the question "what purpose did he have to disguise himself and go to LKL show... What did he want to acheive?" is that he wanted us to know that he is alive. At least for me seeing him there is the most convincing evidence for him being alive.
On the first two comparisons you can see DD from the B&B which was made only one year later (in 1997) than the Leeza interview (in 1996). He looks quite different... His teeth, his lips, his ear, his eyes...
Then I compared three photos of DD from the same year, 1996. The persons on the left and in the middle look the same, but the one on the right...?
Dave Dave on The Leeza Show rather looks similar to Michael IMO.
I really like your comparison work, good job!
But the comparison between DaveDave on Leeza's with other pictures has to bear in mind that DaveDAves's face is distorted, as you can see when comparing Leeza's face to other pictures of her. I don't know why, but the video material from the show is pulling the people's faces apart, it is not how they really look like.
The problem is, when we watch the video normal, we can see that DaveDave at Leeza's almost looks the same like in B&B. So either both times it is Michael or not. I spend a lot of time with investigating this, and I didn't come to a certain conclusion, respectively I sometimes doubt about the conclusion I draw.
It would be kind if you would have a look at the tread I started <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=31&t=3344<!-- l --> and tell me your thoughts.
And I really wonder why the Leeza interview was broadcasted on july 2nd 2009 including this distortion. Maybe it was done on purpose, to make DaveDAve look more like Michael?
BTW the voice is something that reminds me a lot of Michael, unfortunately the original tapes of B&B in English are not up on yt anymore.
Yes, I remember when the English version of those episodes of B&B were on youtube. I wondered who removed them and why?
Honestly, when I first saw the video about DD in the B&B, I also thought that there is a chance that it's Michael - because of his upper arm and his shoulders. And then I saw you guys thought the same. But as I started to analyze his face more, I became sure that it's the real DD. In my video I made many comparisons of the real DD's face, so to be sure how he looks like - as I was also confused about his different looks, just like you. If you are interested, I suggest to watch the videos (one video actually, but long, so it has 3 parts) I made because I tried to gather everything there about Dave Dave's different looks and it would be too long to post it here. I mentioned these videos on the first page of the topic I started "Comparison photos between DD on LKL and Michael"
<!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12010<!-- l -->
There are the links to my video too.
In a few points I can say that what convinced me that it was the real DD in the B&B and Michael on the Leeza show are the followings:
1, The real DD's right earlobe is basically missing, just like the Dave's in the B&B - but the DD on the Leeza show has a right earlobe.
2, The real DD's skin on his face and his neck is less tense/more damaged, which we can see only when the light is better in the B&B (generally there is not much light, so DD's skin looks better). You can see his damaged skin on the second photo I posted above. But the DD on the Leeza show has a tense and nice skin in the whole video - and there is way more light.
3, DD's face is narrow/longish in the B&B, and as I found, his face has always looked like this. He is especially thin in the B&B but his face still looks longish now, and looked also this way when he was a teenager. The DD's face in the Leeza show is similar to Michael's (except that the video is distorted so it's a bit wider), a little square (watch the chin).
4, DD's teeth in the B&B are less ordered than the DD's on the Leeza show, which suggests that they are different persons (I doubt his teeth got less ordered in one year, as the B&B was made in 1997 and the Leeza show was in 1996).
5, DD in the B&B cannot move his lips in a healthy way, his lower lip is too loose. (you can see it on the photo above but it's more clear when you watch the video). DD in the Leeza show has no problem with his lips, they are healthy.
6, DD in the B&B is a little cross-eyed, like on every photo about the real DD. The DD in the Leeza show has very similar eyes to Michael's eyes - not crossed and the distance between them is bigger.
By the way the picture we have about DD from the Leeza show (when he is sitting in a chair) is I think about the real DD. (the middle photo from the 3 photos above) Watch his missing earlobe - the same as DD's in the B&B (The angles are not the same but his ear looks way more similar to the B&B DD than to the "sofa" DD). And his skin is more damaged and his face is more longish (I don't think the video is that distorted that it made the "sofa" DD's face that much wider). He looks very similar to the picture on the left (from that 3 photos) which was taken the same year.
I guess there is a chance that the video we can see on YT about the Leeza show was re-made just before the hoax. Everything was kept the same, just instead of the real DD they show us Michael as DD. That's why he sits in a sofa in the video and in a chair on the photo. Just a thought...
What I wrote down above is more clear in my video as I used a lot of photo comparisons there.
I've never seen the English version of the B&B unfortunately - but DD's voice on the Leeza show sounds like Michael's voice to me.
I have just had a close look at the new pictures DaveDave posted on his Myspace (city pictures), and they make clear that also the hands, arms and the body shape of DD in B&B are most likely those of the real DD. The differences between the pictures that were taken by the press around the same time are still big (DD leaning at the wall), but this may be a result of lightning and makeup.
For comparing the pictures of DD at Leeza's (sitting in armchair and sitting on the sofa) we could take the structure of the black&white cap as a criteria. I tried to make the cap look the same and it shows that the broadness of the face also becomes almost the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CkETwJY1U<!-- m --> from 0:37 to the Michael Jackson "interview" <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZKnI-np ... re=related<!-- m --> from 1:26.
We wont have a certain proof without analyzing the voice features with special software, which I am not capable of, but to me it definately sounds the same. Being a musician from early childhood I am acoustically trained and the voice similarities between Michael and DD on LKL and on Leeza's are more convincing to me than anything else. (Which doesn't mean that I don't like a good picture comparison <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
For me what is the most convincing difference though, is the difference between their teeth and the way they move their lips. If you watch the video from 4:02 you can see a short video of DD from the B&B and then the Leeza video.
<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6u1jL0LgGs<!-- m -->
About the voices, which words/sentences do you refer to? I hear that DD on the Leeza show has a very similar voice to Michael's, but what is strange is that both Leeza's and DD's voices are distorted during the whole video - just like the picture we talked about...
But before I go for today, there is one thing I wanted to add to the turtle disguise.
See one pic from DaveDave's mayspacehttp://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... mId=549161<!-- m -->
Coincidence again?
No, she's just having a little sense of humor. Sometimes you gotta be a little funny on these forums, times get tough on us occasionally, unfortunately. I don't mind the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comment on my thread though. I loved that show like 10 years ago. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->