It is strange isn't it how the tabloids all report that the Jackson family are trying to get money (especially Joe) and yet the insurance hasn't been paid out...You would think if he was dead that they most probably would. Even just to give it to charity or something. I am trying to find the original thread where we discuss this and the proof of how we know it has not been paid out.
This is good news, we know that some people in the FBI are involved with the 333 pages leaked and 3rd September is a significant date. No coincidence we know that.
How the scam unraveled. Two insurance companies began looking more closely at the claims and hired an investigator to ask questions.
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Paid actors, empty casket, bogus death certificates... sounds familiar. Although they make it clear in this articlke that they have been charged for fraud, and indeed, Mike's insurance was not paid out, just cashed in. Same with Elvis, there is still an insurance policy that is still waiting to be paid out, the others were cashed in. No fraud in those cases.
English isn't my first language. What's the difference between "paid out" and "cashed in"? What does it mean that the insurance was cashed in? Where is that money?
3 September 2010, one year after the burial but also...
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It’s a morbid tale involving phony death certificates, staged funerals with paid actors, and coffins buried with no bodies, but in the end, it’s just a financial fraud scheme like thousands of others we investigate every year.
Earlier this month in Los Angeles, the fourth and final member of an insurance fraud ring was convicted in federal court. Jean Crump—a former mortuary employee—was found guilty of joining THREE other women in a scheme to defraud insurance companies by filing $1.2 million in phony life insurance policy claims.
Also victimized were several financial assignment companies, often used by funeral homes and mortuaries to advance cash for funeral expenses in exchange for a portion of the deceased’s life insurance policies.
How the scam worked: In ONE instance, Crump and/or her co-schemers purchased life insurance policies for “Jim Davis,” naming his supposed “nephew” and “niece” as beneficiaries. Mr. Davis conveniently had an untimely demise, and the conspirators created false documents, including a death certificate with a doctor’s forged signature, to collect his life insurance. They also prepared grossly inflated bills for different amounts from a mortuary to cover the man’s funeral and burial costs and wired the bills to TWO different assignment companies.
Both assignment companies paid the mortuary (one nearly $30,000 and the other just over $16,000), but of course the money went right into the hands of the criminals—the mortuary was owned and operated by Lydia Pearce, ONE of the FOUR charged in the investigation. And an insurance company paid out more than $230,000 in life insurance to Mr. Davis’ so-called nephew.
The criminals went so far as to purchase a burial plot for Mr. Davis and bury him, without a headstone. But despite the extravagant funeral described on paper for the financial assignment companies—including an ornate casket and elaborate floral arrangements—the funeral was a simple affair, attended by several phony family members recruited to play the part of mourners in case anyone was watching.
Each member of the fraud ring brought her own expertise to the table: Crump and Pearce, with their mortuary experience, knew all there was to know about funerals and death documents. Phlebotomist Faye Shilling knew the ins and outs of filing insurance claims, and notary Barbara Ann Lynn used her stamp to make the fake documents look legitimate.
How the scam unraveled. TWO insurance companies began looking more closely at the claims and hired an investigator to ask questions. The con artists were so unnerved by this that they had the coffin supposedly holding the remains of Jim Davis unearthed. They filled the casket with a mannequin and cow parts to ensure the proper weight and then sent it to a crematory. Then, they filed phony paperwork stating that he had been cremated and had his ashes scattered over the Pacific Ocean.
The FBI’s Los Angeles office eventually became involved. Upon closer inspection of the life insurance policies, death certificates, funeral bills, and financial information of the ring members, our investigators gathered the evidence needed to charge the FOUR women—whose scheme ultimately met its own demise.
Numbers given in letters: THREE, ONE, TWO, ONE, ONE, FOUR, TWO, FOUR 3+1+2+1+1+4+2+4= 18 = 9 (333)
Numbers as numbers: 1.2; 30,000; 16,000; 230,000 1+2+3+1+6+2+3= 18 = 9 (333)
It is strange isn't it how the tabloids all report that the Jackson family are trying to get money (especially Joe) and yet the insurance hasn't been paid out...You would think if he was dead that they most probably would. Even just to give it to charity or something. I am trying to find the original thread where we discuss this and the proof of how we know it has not been paid out.
haha I didn't even know the FBI had twitter but for them to tweet this is it time for them to spill the beans regarding MJ. Fake caskets, fake funeral. Come on the 3rd to post this mmm.....exactly a year after the burial. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
It is strange isn't it how the tabloids all report that the Jackson family are trying to get money (especially Joe) and yet the insurance hasn't been paid out...You would think if he was dead that they most probably would. Even just to give it to charity or something. I am trying to find the original thread where we discuss this and the proof of how we know it has not been paid out.
It is strange isn't it how the tabloids all report that the Jackson family are trying to get money (especially Joe) and yet the insurance hasn't been paid out...You would think if he was dead that they most probably would. Even just to give it to charity or something. I am trying to find the original thread where we discuss this and the proof of how we know it has not been paid out.
It is part of the deception to believe that Michael is in financial trouble, many people have overlooked the issue of insurance is not paid and that's not called the attention, come to Joe and Katherine demanding money selling his book and do not ask, do not call insurance.
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3 September 2010, one year after the burial but also...
3/09/2010--> 3/9=3+3+3(3x3)/2010=3
> 3/333/3
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It’s a morbid tale involving phony death certificates, staged funerals with paid actors, and coffins buried with no bodies, but in the end, it’s just a financial fraud scheme like thousands of others we investigate every year.
Earlier this month in Los Angeles, the fourth and final member of an insurance fraud ring was convicted in federal court. Jean Crump—a former mortuary employee—was found guilty of joining THREE other women in a scheme to defraud insurance companies by filing $1.2 million in phony life insurance policy claims.
Also victimized were several financial assignment companies, often used by funeral homes and mortuaries to advance cash for funeral expenses in exchange for a portion of the deceased’s life insurance policies.
How the scam worked: In ONE instance, Crump and/or her co-schemers purchased life insurance policies for “Jim Davis,” naming his supposed “nephew” and “niece” as beneficiaries. Mr. Davis conveniently had an untimely demise, and the conspirators created false documents, including a death certificate with a doctor’s forged signature, to collect his life insurance. They also prepared grossly inflated bills for different amounts from a mortuary to cover the man’s funeral and burial costs and wired the bills to TWO different assignment companies.
Both assignment companies paid the mortuary (ONE nearly $30,000 and the other just over $16,000), but of course the money went right into the hands of the criminals—the mortuary was owned and operated by Lydia Pearce, ONE of the FOUR charged in the investigation. And an insurance company paid out more than $230,000 in life insurance to Mr. Davis’ so-called nephew.
The criminals went so far as to purchase a burial plot for Mr. Davis and bury him, without a headstone. But despite the extravagant funeral described on paper for the financial assignment companies—including an ornate casket and elaborate floral arrangements—the funeral was a simple affair, attended by several phony family members recruited to play the part of mourners in case anyone was watching.
Each member of the fraud ring brought her own expertise to the table: Crump and Pearce, with their mortuary experience, knew all there was to know about funerals and death documents. Phlebotomist Faye Shilling knew the ins and outs of filing insurance claims, and notary Barbara Ann Lynn used her stamp to make the fake documents look legitimate.
How the scam unraveled. TWO insurance companies began looking more closely at the claims and hired an investigator to ask questions. The con artists were so unnerved by this that they had the coffin supposedly holding the remains of Jim Davis unearthed. They filled the casket with a mannequin and cow parts to ensure the proper weight and then sent it to a crematory. Then, they filed phony paperwork stating that he had been cremated and had his ashes scattered over the Pacific Ocean.
The FBI’s Los Angeles office eventually became involved. Upon closer inspection of the life insurance policies, death certificates, funeral bills, and financial information of the ring members, our investigators gathered the evidence needed to charge the FOUR women—whose scheme ultimately met its own demise.
Numbers given in letters: THREE, ONE, TWO, ONE, ONE, FOUR, TWO, FOUR 3+1+2+1+1+4+2+4= 18 = 9 (333)
Numbers as numbers: 1.2; 30,000; 16,000; 230,000 1+2+3+1+6+2+3= 18 = 9 (333)
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Yes I'm absolutely convinced that this isn't a coincidence.. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I found this one ... <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=45&t=10022&p=170275&hilit=death+was+not+paid+out+cashed+in#p170275<!-- l -->
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English isn't my first language. What's the difference between "paid out" and "cashed in"? What does it mean that the insurance was cashed in? Where is that money?
Numbers as numbers: 1.2; 30,000; 16,000; 230,000 1+2+3+1+6+2+3= 18 = 9 (333)
Thanks ROLF!
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The case of the FBI is very interesting. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->