Doctor Charged in Michael Jackson's Death Faces Hearing Next

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Conrad Murray - charged with the involuntary manslaughter of Michael Jackson -- will have his preliminary hearing in January, RadarOnline.com is reporting.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor scheduled the hearing for January 4th.

During that court event, the judge will determine whether there is enough evidence for the cardiologist to stand trial.

Murray is accused of giving Jackson a lethal dose of sedatives, including the anesthetic propofol.

He had been hired to serves as the singer's personal physician during a series of comeback concerts.


After emerging from a 45 minute in chambers meeting with Judge Pastor and Dr. Murray's attorneys, the District Attorney, David Walgren, said he expected the hearing would last for about 10-15 days.

"This is a must go counsel on January 4th," Judge Pastor said.

Judge Pastor also asked for "counsel to submit a stipulation by November 4th, 2010 about the handling of certain forensic evidence."

It wasn't specified what the evidence was or which lawyers would be submitting the documentation.

Dr. Murray submitted to a waiver that would allow his preliminary hearing to be interrupted once it began.

Judge Pastor said, "Dr. Murray has an interest in the preliminary hearing. The Jackson family has an interest in it, as others do."

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  • Lawyers try to shorten hearing in Jackson case


    LOS ANGELES – Prosecutors and attorneys for the doctor charged in Michael Jackson's death say they are trying to work out ways to shorten a preliminary hearing scheduled in January.

    Some of the evidence against Dr. Conrad Murray will be presented during the hearing that Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor said Tuesday must begin on Jan. 4.

    After the hearing, the judge will decide if there is enough evidence for Murray to stand trial for involuntary manslaughter.

    Murray was present during the hearing Tuesday, when the judge met with attorneys for 40 minutes in closed chambers to discuss issues related to evidence.

    Deputy District Attorney David Walgren says the Jan. 4 hearing may last two to three weeks, but the witness list could be shortened if he reaches stipulations with attorneys for Murray, who has pleaded not guilty.

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  • I dont understand what any of this means.

    So they still havent decided if there is enough evidence to go to trial?

    What is going on.. i dont understand. Too much legal jargon and i dont live in the USA
  • mrbigshotmrbigshot Posts: 456
    im pretty sure...if there is a dead man supposedly, then THERE IS enough evidence to convict someone. It's just their job to find out!
  • shelby61shelby61 Posts: 305
    Some of the evidence against Dr. Conrad Murray will be presented during the hearing that Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor said Tuesday must begin on Jan. 4.

    After the hearing, the judge will decide if there is enough evidence for Murray to stand trial for involuntary manslaughter.

    ____________________________

    If they present only SOME OF THE EVIDENCE then how can the judge decide whether there is enough evidence for a trial?? Some of the evidence will have "good enough" for a trial. I just don't know how a judge can make a fair determination based on SOME OF THE EVIDENCE?? Hmmmm
  • ER911ER911 Posts: 248
    Some of the evidence against Dr. Conrad Murray will be presented during the hearing that Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor said Tuesday must begin on Jan. 4.

    After the hearing, the judge will decide if there is enough evidence for Murray to stand trial for involuntary manslaughter.

    ____________________________

    If they present only SOME OF THE EVIDENCE then how can the judge decide whether there is enough evidence for a trial?? Some of the evidence will have "good enough" for a trial. I just don't know how a judge can make a fair determination based on SOME OF THE EVIDENCE?? Hmmmm

    The Courts determine what evidence is admissable. The evidence is submitted & then it is determined what will be heard & what will not be heard. This is why some jurors may feel mislead after they have rendered a decision. They don't always realize that not all evidence will be heard if the Court decides it is not relative to that particular case, even if it is related to the case.
  • The judge will determine whether there is enough evidence for the cardiologist to stand trial ? So this is the evidence that Michael is alive, not other option on this.It's been a long time now, and nothing happened.
  • msteetee34msteetee34 Posts: 1,234
    That dude is not going on trial. How many hearings has it been now? Gee I wonder why? That's my opinion.
  • AnaMarciaAnaMarcia Posts: 860
    "Judge Pastor also asked for "counsel to submit a stipulation by November 4th, 2010 about the handling of certain forensic evidence."
    ........................................

    November 4th?

    TS said that November 5 is an important day to be considered.

    So, certainly TS knew about this decision of the judge?
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  • There will be no hearing, it is dragging too long. How can there be a hearing if Michael is alive. <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
  • roxy101roxy101 Posts: 143
    So what DID happen with the hearing yesterday?

    I tried asking in another thread, but was asked to post in another thread after using the search function as if I'm highly incompetent and hadn't done that already.

    But seeing as there are barely any answers among other threads, can someone out there fill me in if they happen to know?
  • So what DID happen with the hearing yesterday?

    I tried asking in another thread, but was asked to post in another thread after using the search function as if I'm highly incompetent and hadn't done that already.

    Don't put words in my mouth please, I didn't say you were highly incompetent nor did I suggest that. Had that been my thought, I would have said that outright.

    Since you say you already used the search function, I'm surprised that you decided to create a new thread for your question instead of posting your Q in this one right away.

    We like to keep our boards functional and organized, and we ask our members to contribute to that as well so that we don't have to keep on locking, moving and merging threads.
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Some of the evidence against Dr. Conrad Murray will be presented during the hearing that Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor said Tuesday must begin on Jan. 4.

    After the hearing, the judge will decide if there is enough evidence for Murray to stand trial for involuntary manslaughter.


    Jan 4 date gives a winning 9 and judge Michael Pastor is experienced in sexual abuse cases, too (see William French Anderson case in 2007), so it will be an interesting development to follow.
  • umm can i ask is the judge for the trial name michael pastor and is it supposed to be the same as the judge in the pic. with the yellow taxi?
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Yep. Most likely. Except if the storybook changes.
  • Yep. Most likely. Except if the storybook changes.
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  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    I found it: on Feb 8, 2010 the judge was Keith Schwartz (with the rag doll).
    Sorry for any inconvenience.
  • finfinfinfin Posts: 648
    Just found this about the evidence
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    APNewsBreak: Jackson doctor's defence team express concerns about deteriorating evidence
    By Anthony McCartney (CP) – 28 minutes ago

    LOS ANGELES, Calif. — Defence lawyers for the doctor charged in Michael Jackson's death are urgently seeking testing of two syringes and an IV bag found in the singer's mansion.

    The lawyers are claiming some evidence has already deteriorated after the June 2009 death of Jackson.

    Attorneys for Dr. Conrad Murray detailed the state of the items Tuesday in a 40-minute closed session with a judge.

    A transcript of the meeting obtained by The Associated Press includes assertions by the cardiologist's attorneys that the liquid in one of the syringes has turned to salt.

    The attorneys were seeking an order allowing a specialist to try to determine the quantities of substances in two syringes and the IV bag.

    Judge Michael Pastor refused after prosecutors said they weren't made aware of the request for evidence testing until immediately before Tuesday's hearing.

    The testing requested by the defence will destroy the substances and can only be done once.

    Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the pop superstar's drug overdose death.
  • finfinfinfin Posts: 648
    Further information about the evidence:
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    By ANTHONY McCARTNEY, AP Entertainment Writer Anthony Mccartney, Ap Entertainment Writer – 24 mins ago
    APNewsBreak: Urgent plea for testing Jackson items

    LOS ANGELES – Arguing that evidence is deteriorating, defense lawyers for the doctor charged in Michael Jackson's death are seeking urgent testing of two syringes and an IV bag found in the singer's mansion after his death.

    Attorneys for Dr. Conrad Murray said during a 40-minute closed session with a judge that liquids in one of the syringes had already dried up and was now "salt," according to a transcript of the proceeding obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press.

    Quantities of substances in the syringes and IV bag could be crucial to explaining how the singer died, the lawyers said at the Tuesday hearing.

    Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. Authorities contend he administered a lethal dose of sedatives, including the anesthetic propofol, to Jackson in the bedroom of his rented mansion in June 2009.

    Officials tested what was in the items and found traces of propofol and lidocaine, according to the transcript. But the amounts of the substances were not determined, and defense attorneys contend that may be significant in the case expected to hinge on technical and scientific data.

    Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor declined to order testing on the substances Tuesday because he wanted defense attorneys to confer further with prosecutors.

    The judge might order the testing late next week if the two sides can agree on how it will be conducted.

    "I want to act as quickly as we can," Pastor told the attorneys.

    Still, defense attorney Ed Chernoff struck an urgent tone, telling the judge, "We are doing it because the house is on fire. We need a hose."

    Chernoff said substances in one broken syringe found at the mansion had dried up since June 2009, when Pastor ordered the evidence preserved. The tests sought by Murray's attorneys will destroy the samples and can only be performed once.

    Prosecutor David Walgren questioned why defense attorneys had not raised the issue sooner.


    There are very technical, complex issues," he told the judge, adding he thought an agreement on the testing could eventually be reached.

    Defense attorney J. Michael Flanagan told the judge his efforts to get the substances tested has been delayed because an expert in the Los Angeles County coroner's office had been on a lengthy vacation. He argued the tests should have been done after Jackson's death.

    "It hasn't been done yet," Flanagan said. "It should have been done a year ago."

    Tissue samples in Jackson's body were tested for levels of various substances and led to the coroner's determination that the pop singer died in part from acute propofol intoxication.

    The anesthetic is supposed to be administered in hospital settings, but Murray told investigators he had been providing it to Jackson as a sleep aide and had been trying to wean him off the drug.

    Chernoff has said the doctor did not give Jackson anything that should have killed him.

    The tests are likely to be conducted by the coroner's office. A phone message left for coroner's Assistant Chief Ed Winter was not immediately returned.

    Flanagan said the agency told him the makeup of the liquids in the syringes and IV bag were not tested because the values were not necessary to establish the cause of Jackson's death.

    Flanagan said in the closed session that the results of the tests "would be very helpful information perhaps for both sides."

    Chernoff told the judge results of the testing, which could take a month or more to complete, would not be used during a preliminary hearing scheduled to begin Jan. 4.

    Prosecutors will lay out some of their evidence during the hearing, and Pastor will then decide whether there is enough evidence to order Murray to stand trial.

    Loyola Law School professor Stan Goldman said it was too early to know how the issue might impact Murray's case, but it probably gives his defense team an issue to try to create doubt in jurors' minds.

    "It depends on the jury," he said. "You've suddenly gleaned a point that cannot be underestimated."

    He said there didn't immediately appear to be any indication of impropriety with the evidence or testing.

    But a jury possibly leaning toward acquitting Murray might be swayed by a defense argument that the evidence was either damaged or unavailable.

    "It's gives them some arguments they didn't have before," Goldman said, adding he made similar arguments when he was a public defender. "Sometimes that's all you need."
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    aayyy, we have seen, the lawyer urgently seeking two syringes and IV bags, "are drying up", this is crucial and that this can be explained as "died" Michael. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    ! I want to act as fast as possible!, "Judge Michael Pastor (after 16 months). <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
    The syringes were dried and made into "salt." <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    I think I read somewhere that the syringes wanted "auction" <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    This liquid can serve as proof of death, but is no longer the case that became "salt." <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
    The defense attorney told the judge he could not obtain evidence that the charge of this guy was on vacation for a long time. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    In summary there is no evidence to convict Murray. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
    That Harvey has not reported all this. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
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