TMZ LIVE

mjbusterdionmjbusterdion Posts: 98
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
TMZ LIVE is great today, the way they explained some things make sense to me...
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  • TarjaTarja Posts: 645
    what did Harvey say about the song?
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    He said he will talk about the song. Did he say something?

    mjbusterdion, can you please elaborate? Didn't see it...I am watching Oprah
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    He still thinks the song is Michael. He thinks that the family have a problem with it because of the jacksonvault company. He says the song is produced different and MJs kids listen to his old albums all the time and they aren't used to the new sound so thats possibly why they think it's not him. I'm not buying it. Interesting though!

    EDIT: Harvey wont even entertain the idea of breaking news being fake. Someone asked "What would it mean for Sony if breaking news was fake?" and he said "It's NOT fake"
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Nice try Harve... I bet my question ended up on the ground again.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    Mike just added: "Michael Jackson fans are crazy like that - anything off and they KNOW" <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • mjbusterdionmjbusterdion Posts: 98
    He basically explained about the prince symbol and they are wondering how it was spotted.. of course the great fans here did..

    Said that the reason they think the family are kicking up is because the brothers aren't involved in this project

    Explained who the guy casio was and how they were long time family friends of Michael.

    Why Sony dont have to prove if its MJ or not on the track and they also said that MJ fans are crazy like that because they notice the smallest thing

    And also how they feel on Joe beating MJ, they said that it wasnt unusual in the early times for it to happen..
  • lilwendylilwendy Posts: 788
    *smacking my head* ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

    Mike is right... we, "the crazy MJ fans" can TOTALLY hear its not him. It has NOTHING to do with the style of music... it has NOTHING to do with the pitch... it is the VOICE ITSELF!!!

    Sorry, this is bugging me.... it's like when I first heard Jason Malachi I was like, yeah kind of sound like MJ but the speed of the wobbling of the voice is off... (I didn't know it was called vibrato at the time hahahaha)

    Same thing here and I think one of the nephews mentioned it as well on Twitter, the vibrato is not MJs.

    But how do you convince someone that a lie is truth? You mix in a little truth with the lie and then people will accept it easier. And that is what I believe has been done.

    I would really like to know how Harve is so sure that it's MJ.

    @Souza what was your question?
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    But how do you convince someone that a lie is truth?

    If you tell someone lies repeatedly, they will end up believing it. It's true, even some people on here this morning who were saying ti wasn't MJ are now reconsidering..

    I agree with everything you said. I am trusting my instinct, when I first heard it I thought "there is NO WAY that's Michael" and thats what I'm sticking with no matter how they try and explain it and how many 'voice experts' tell me so.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Well Michael is right, fans are so crazy that they will listen and never has done, not saying they are all
  • cin_pytcin_pyt Posts: 632
    UNCLE HARVEY HE JUST KNOWS WE KNOW WHEN HE MESSES UP NOTHING GOES PAST US NOTHING WE ARE SCRUTINIZING TMZ, OPRAH U NAME IT WE'VE BECOME DETECTIVES WITHOUT INTENDING TO, THANKS TO THE MAN
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    *smacking my head* ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

    Mike is right... we, "the crazy MJ fans" can TOTALLY hear its not him. It has NOTHING to do with the style of music... it has NOTHING to do with the pitch... it is the VOICE ITSELF!!!

    Sorry, this is bugging me.... it's like when I first heard Jason Malachi I was like, yeah kind of sound like MJ but the speed of the wobbling of the voice is off... (I didn't know it was called vibrato at the time hahahaha)

    Same thing here and I think one of the nephews mentioned it as well on Twitter, the vibrato is not MJs.

    But how do you convince someone that a lie is truth? You mix in a little truth with the lie and then people will accept it easier. And that is what I believe has been done.

    I would really like to know how Harve is so sure that it's MJ.

    @Souza what was your question?

    I asked him if he heard that there were two voices, which could explain the confusion. Also that IF it was all MJ, that he changed his voice on purpose, because we know his voice didn't change because we hear his own voice in TII as well, so why would he do that. It ended up on the ground I think...

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    He also ignored my questions, I asked if they had rigged the poll on who thinks it's Michael Jackson singing, but then I'm not surprised they ignored it <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    I really find it suspicious how Harvey can be that SURE that it's Michael singing...
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    Ok so I'm watching TMZ live now and Harvey has changed from "It's NOT fake" to "I believe it's Michael but you can never be sure"...

    *Sings* "What a difference day day makes..."
  • TarjaTarja Posts: 645
    I didn't watch it. What else did he say about the song?
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    I didn't watch it. What else did he say about the song?

    Not much at all he didn't seem like he wanted to discuss it...
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    I'm going to change my username and use my real name, see if Harvey has answered my question <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    Ok so Harvey just said he doesn't believe Michael owns 50% of Sony.

    Can someone tell me what the deal is here?
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    Michael owns 50% of SONY/ATV which is a company owned by SONY as far as I know.
    What did Harvey say about this?
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    Ok so Harvey just said he doesn't believe Michael owns 50% of Sony.

    Can someone tell me what the deal is here?

    The question was just about Sony, not Sony publishing. So I think Harvey answered the question correctly. He probably could've specified but he didn't for some reason.
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    Michael owns 50% of SONY/ATV which is a company owned by SONY as far as I know.
    What did Harvey say about this?

    Someone asked, "What do you think of the rumors that Michael Jackson owns 50% of Sony" and his response was "I don't think that's true, I don't think he owned 50% of Sony".

    I didn't realise they were just rumors?
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    Ok so Harvey just said he doesn't believe Michael owns 50% of Sony.

    Can someone tell me what the deal is here?

    The question was just about Sony, not Sony publishing. So I think Harvey answered the question correctly. He probably could've specified but he didn't for some reason.

    Oh ok so Michael definitely owns 50% of Sony publishing?
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    yes, as far as i know.

    wikipedia:

    Sony/ATV Music Publishing is a music publishing company co-owned by The Michael Jackson Family Trust and Sony.

    Type Limited liability company
    Industry Music
    Founder(s) Lew Grade
    Headquarters London, United Kingdom
    Key people: Michael Jackson
    Services Music publishing
    Owner(s): The Michael Jackson Family Trust (50%), Sony (50%)
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    yes, as far as i know.

    wikipedia:

    Sony/ATV Music Publishing is a music publishing company co-owned by The Michael Jackson Family Trust and Sony.

    Type Limited liability company
    Industry Music
    Founder(s) Lew Grade
    Headquarters London, United Kingdom
    Key people: Michael Jackson
    Services Music publishing
    Owner(s): The Michael Jackson Family Trust (50%), Sony (50%)

    Thanks Anna I was starting to get worried. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Harvey should have cleared this up when the question was asked.
  • trublutrublu Posts: 1,011
    lol someone just asked if the Michael Jackson estate will benefit from the relase of the beatles catalogue on itunes and Mike said something like "I would think Michael will benefit seeing as he owns a large part of it".

    First, they asked about the Michael Jackson estate not Michael Jackson! And second, check out the use of the present tense!

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  • TarjaTarja Posts: 645
    lol someone just asked if the Michael Jackson estate will benefit from the relase of the beatles catalogue on itunes and Mike said something like "I would think Michael will benefit seeing as he owns a large part of it".

    First, they asked about the Michael Jackson estate not Michael Jackson! And second, check out the use of the present tense!

    <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    was it today? I don't know but I never catch them live. Is the video up already?
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