[You are so quick to dismiss the fact you may have been fooled or lied to or lead on and are questioning others for seeing or feeling it.
I might be totally out of my mind: "..... I created a lie but because you believed it you found something true about yourself."
Does it really matter who is the person creating the lie?
I said before I should be mad..... but I am simply NOT. In fact I am grateful.
Gina - You have my full RESPECT for standing for yourself!
Wherever the lies are, it will come out in due time! Until then keep your integrity no matter what! It is a valuable resource in today's World... those who have not got it, cannot steal it from you... all they can do is get you to throw it away! Don't give them this Pleasure!
I think that we just have to be ourselves. In the end the truthfull is always recompensed no matter how/when and the truth is destined to prevail. Each one has his/her own conscience and if persons are playing silly games or whatever else this will be their problem and timely revealed (I have no one in mind and I am one who's been duped by trolls <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> ). If we really understand that the message is the most important and not the messenger and his/her supposed identity than it should be fine. We should not forget that we are responsible in the end for the choices we make and that there is no one to blame apart from us. I only put my unconditional trust in God. Now I realize that I may be off-topic... it went in all directions already not my fault <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> ... it's a pattern <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
About locked threads... maybe that a warning before locking the thread would be better... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> .... <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
bec your comments about a higher power than the admins being responsible for the site's survival intrigued me, I don't suppose you'd like to elaborate? Again when people hint that they know inside info the rest of us aren't privvy to it can start the whole "them and us" situation again and we're (hopefully) trying to get past that.
There are no "higher powers" than the admins. The "higher power" Bec is referring to is Badkolo. Badkolo owns the domain and pays for the hosting. SHOULD he ever decide to stop supporting this site then there's still no problem, as Souza and I both make backups of the forum on a regular base so the info will never be lost. That's ALL there is to know.
Yes, that's right. It's like a little corporate empire here so no one person holds the kill switch, which is a wonderful system, very smart, the information is very secure for as long as the internet and the electric grid exist so will this information.
I am very grateful for this and have great confidence in how things function here.
I am not trying to be mysterious, I was trying to not talk out of turn yet simultaneously ease people's concerns.
[You are so quick to dismiss the fact you may have been fooled or lied to or lead on and are questioning others for seeing or feeling it.
I might be totally out of my mind: "..... I created a lie but because you believed it you found something true about yourself."
Does it really matter who is the person creating the lie?
I said before I should be mad..... but I am simply NOT. In fact I am grateful.
Gina - You have my full RESPECT for standing for yourself!
Wherever the lies are, it will come out in due time! Until then keep your integrity no matter what! It is a valuable resource in today's World... those who have not got it, cannot steal it from you... all they can do is get you to throw it away! Don't give them this Pleasure!
With L.O.V.E
Hi TheRunningGirl. Thank you <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> .
The members of this forum have to be "entertained", right? Kept busy, right?
Right now it's funny to me now how people don't pay attention to what TS said, that he used another username around here. Is that so unimportant?! To me NOT.
... we get a free training in hoaxing <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Oh <!-- s --><!-- s --> thit whole situation I love so much <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
One person comes on the forum, makes great posts, revealeas things we were never thinking about, gets our trust and appreciation and then, out of the blue, his/hers evil twin gets "possession" of his/hers account !! Sounds like a hoax to me <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Hoax within a hoax within a hoax.
And if I am wrong so be it.... we are not here to be RIGHT all the time.....
bec your comments about a higher power than the admins being responsible for the site's survival intrigued me, I don't suppose you'd like to elaborate? Again when people hint that they know inside info the rest of us aren't privvy to it can start the whole "them and us" situation again and we're (hopefully) trying to get past that.
There are no "higher powers" than the admins. The "higher power" Bec is referring to is Badkolo. Badkolo owns the domain and pays for the hosting. SHOULD he ever decide to stop supporting this site then there's still no problem, as Souza and I both make backups of the forum on a regular base so the info will never be lost. That's ALL there is to know.
Yes, that's right. It's like a little corporate empire here so no one person holds the kill switch, which is a wonderful system, very smart, the information is very secure for as long as the internet and the electric grid exist so will this information.
As long as someone is willing to pay for hosting the info, yes.
I am very grateful for this and have great confidence in how things function here.
I am not trying to be mysterious, I was trying to not talk out of turn yet simultaneously ease people's concerns.
Then why refer to Badkolo as a "higher power"? Everybody here knows who Badkolo is. Please don't create mystery when there is none. That's right where wild stories start, and that's something people here clearly don't appreciate.
Hi everyone,
I think we all compeletely lost the track by accusing each other.
So I would like to ask those who are doing this all the time: are you happy with what you are doing?
We are not getting any redirects from TS just because of that kind of behaviour!!!! So we are sort of punished now!
Ithink this is terrible!!!!!!!! It's sad to admit this but i think it's just the human nature!!!!!!!!
We start to talk about love and Michael's message an so on and so on...... and we end up with no new redirects anymore....
accusations...... suspision..............What are you doing people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it's about tome to wake up and to realize that what you are doing is completely wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is reminding me of the famous novel "Lord of the Flies" . It's about some children who got lost on an Island because of an airplane crash. In order to survive they formed some kind of a group with a group leader. Then they started to have their own tribe regulations and began to punish each others just like adults do. They ended up with behaving like kaniballs and wanted to hunt the weakest childern down in order to eat them. In this novel the narrator wants to emphasize that no matter how civilized human beings nowadays are, they will reach the point where thy would return to their savage origins because it's just our human nature. When I read the forum I think he is completely right.
This is toooooo saaaaaaad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I think we all compeletely lost the track by accusing each other.
So I would like to ask those who are doing this all the time: are you happy with what you are doing?
We are not getting any redirects from TS just because of that kind of behaviour!!!! So we are sort of punished now!
So according to you the unfolding of the hoax completely depends on TS..? The hoax already existed before TS entered, and will continue with or without TS's redirects and posts. Be careful to not become dependent on ONE person.
Hi everyone,
I think we all compeletely lost the track by accusing each other.
So I would like to ask those who are doing this all the time: are you happy with what you are doing? We are not getting any redirects from TS just because of that kind of behaviour!!!! So we are sort of punished now!
Ithink this is terrible!!!!!!!! It's sad to admit this but i think it's just the human nature!!!!!!!!
We start to talk about love and Michael's message an so on and so on...... and we end up with no new redirects anymore....
accusations...... suspision..............What are you doing people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it's about tome to wake up and to realize that what you are doing is completely wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is reminding me of the famous novel "Lord of the Flies" . It's about some children who got lost on an Island because of an airplane crash. In order to survive they formed some kind of a group with a group leader. Then they started to have their own tribe regulations and began to punish each others just like adults do. They ended up with behaving like kaniballs and wanted to hunt the weakest childern down in order to eat them. In this novel the narrator wants to emphasize that no matter how civilized human beings nowadays are, they will reach the point where thy would return to their savage origins because it's just our human nature. When I read the forum I think he is completely right.
This is toooooo saaaaaaad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bec your comments about a higher power than the admins being responsible for the site's survival intrigued me, I don't suppose you'd like to elaborate? Again when people hint that they know inside info the rest of us aren't privvy to it can start the whole "them and us" situation again and we're (hopefully) trying to get past that.
There are no "higher powers" than the admins. The "higher power" Bec is referring to is Badkolo. Badkolo owns the domain and pays for the hosting. SHOULD he ever decide to stop supporting this site then there's still no problem, as Souza and I both make backups of the forum on a regular base so the info will never be lost. That's ALL there is to know.
Yes, that's right. It's like a little corporate empire here so no one person holds the kill switch, which is a wonderful system, very smart, the information is very secure for as long as the internet and the electric grid exist so will this information.
I am very grateful for this and have great confidence in how things function here.
I am not trying to be mysterious, I was trying to not talk out of turn yet simultaneously ease people's concerns.
Thanks, I guess that's the answers I was looking for!
I think someone needs to lay off the exclamation marks and dots.People will start to think your someone else as well.....
TS is not the creator,director,writer,subject or anything of this hoax/production/master piece..whatever you want to call it.
He/she is a small part of this forum who came well after June 25th 2009.
If you seriously think this hoax and forum is held together by one member using two letters as their name,you really should go back and start reading from the start,around 2005 when BACK was posting.
Oh,and some of the people being accused on here of being someone else deserve it,again if you were following more than one person would know this.It is not unjustified.
Mo wrote; So according to you the unfolding of the hoax completely depends on TS..? The hoax already existed before TS entered, and will continue with or without TS's redirects and posts. Be careful to not become dependent on ONE person.
This is true, but I'd like to see that TS has to say at this moment there are so many questions about it.
However, i "left" a while ago due to this TS thing.
I was told to read TS and post less!
I dont believe in TS. I never have done and for me, to read all those long winded posts seems like a waste of my time that could be spent investigating and reading and trying to find out the truth of my beloved Michael.
Now that the TS issue seems to be breaking out and i see i have other members here who are now feeling what i have felt since the beginning of this issue, i may start to come back more often and choose to share the information i have gathered in my investigations.
However, i "left" a while ago due to this TS thing.
I was told to read TS and post less!
I dont believe in TS. I never have done and for me, to read all those long winded posts seems like a waste of my time that could be spent investigating and reading and trying to find out the truth of my beloved Michael.
Now that the TS issue seems to be breaking out and i see i have other members here who are now feeling what i have felt since the beginning of this issue, i may start to come back more often and choose to share the information i have gathered in my investigations.
Welcome back <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
TS is not the be all and end all as I said before.Don't let it put you off...just avoid those topics.Lots going on with the album,TR,the dodo..lol!
Get back involved and don't read anything you don't want to.
Welcome back <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
TS is not the be all and end all as I said before.Don't let it put you off...just avoid those topics.Lots going on with the album,TR,the dodo..lol!
Get back involved and don't read anything you don't want to.
Thankyou. I will see how it goes. xxxx
I got very offended when i was told to post less and read TS... like i was being TOLD what to do and what to believe.. when in my heart, this TS person is a waste of my time.
It went against my investigation ethics.. i never believe anonymous sources who demand i believe in them. Nor do i think "clues" come heavily laden in mathematical puzzles, etc.
No one tells me what to believe. I decide that myself. x
What upset me is that i was demanded to read TS and stop posting on the forum - and this was told to me on a thread that had nothing to do with TS. It all got too much for me and wasnt how i expected a hoax forum to behave.
It should be about TRUTH. Without the truth we are lost. No lies, no secrets, we should all be on the same page and share what we know without discrimination.
I dont know if Michael is dead or alive.. all i want is the truth and that is what i am searching and working for.
I hope people can now realise that instead of leaning and relying on these shadowy internet characters like "TS" - we should be investigating, learning and sharing together as one. We can do it on our own.
I'm asking this politely and not out of malice, because I honestly feel I'm just misinformed. TS has made several posts, yes I understand, explaining the numerology, and Biblical references, telling us things that will happen before the actual do. Proving to be right every time. (Has he been wrong yet?) I'm not understanding why he continues to do this. This just seems like manuveurs to prove to US that he's legit, which most people have already made up there mind about. So why keep posting? He's not offering us much (except maybe things that will happen in a few days/weeks time) which we'll obviously figure out when it happens. He must also know that there is controversy surrounding the whole account, and if I were him I would just leave. Not because I'm fed up with people disagreeing with me, but because I would feel its the moral thing to do so I wouldn't upset anyone else. He doesn't seem to have much feeling, which sways me away from thinking he's Michael or a Jackson for that matter.
My stand point is I couldn't care less about who TS is. I don't read his/her posts anymore so it doesn't affect me. But if it's affecting the forum as a whole, upsetting (almost) everyone, why stay?
TS has proved his/her information is correct. He/She predicted specific event's over the course of this that have materialized.
I'm not part of some blind faith brigade. If TS couldn't back up his/her info then I wouldn't waste my time on him/her, either.
And you have every right to read and investigate which ever area you choose to.. and if you choose to read TS and belief in this person that that is no problem whatsoever.
The problem i had with it all is that I was being told by admins on this forum that i MUST believe in TS. Thats TS was telling the truth and that i MUST read all his posts and trust and believe in this person. That i MUST stop posting on the forum and use my time to read TS instead.
Thats not investigation to me. Thats PR.
Yes, you can point people in a direction and say "hey, you might want to look at this link or see what this person has to say" - but never demand and tell people that they MUST read it and they MUST trust this person.
Read what you want to read. Believe what you want to believe. Just as long as its your own decision than that is fine.
As an investigation i dont believe anyone should be shut down (and that includes TS) - and no one should be forced into going down a particular avenue in their investigations.
Ok... Im out the argument now. This was the reason i left the forum in the first place. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Im not into making waves and causing arguments.
SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH!!! NOT TO PROVE A THEORY... JUST TO UNCOVER THE TRUTH!!!
This is true, but I'd like to see that TS has to say at this moment there are so many questions about it.
Yes, I am waiting as well.
I read again the last post TS made and it is a mix of everything.
At times I read i understand that is a "MJ producer", another time I believe i read it is someone "cooperating with tmz" , other times that is just a member with theories.....
I should be getting lost in the translation because nothing is said clearly, all the info about "who am I and how do i get my info" from TS looks ambiguous.
TS explained that is not murder, that i get, but i want to know how he could predict the events regarding MJ. The only way is knowing in advance and i want to know how come.
Who is TS to punish anyone? ... would be something like, if you believe in me all goes well, if you do not believe in me and start asking questions and has topics about punishment you
Who is TS to punish anyone? ... would be something like, if you believe in me all goes well, if you do not believe in me and start asking questions and has topics about punishment you
GOD, TS is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Hi everyone,
I think we all compeletely lost the track by accusing each other.
So I would like to ask those who are doing this all the time: are you happy with what you are doing?
We are not getting any redirects from TS just because of that kind of behaviour!!!! So we are sort of punished now!
So according to you the unfolding of the hoax completely depends on TS..? The hoax already existed before TS entered, and will continue with or without TS's redirects and posts. Be careful to not become dependent on ONE person.
So why did you allow TS's posts in the first place???!!!! To confuse us?????
What about that numerology thing??? I think it makes sense and I believe in him.
Aren't we suppose to believe in him if we want to? Or don't you want us to even if we make up our minds and think he is telling the truth? And yes, several members said that he is giving us valuable information. Well, I'm missing these pieces information. Do you have something against this????
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Gina - You have my full RESPECT for standing for yourself!
Wherever the lies are, it will come out in due time! Until then keep your integrity no matter what! It is a valuable resource in today's World... those who have not got it, cannot steal it from you... all they can do is get you to throw it away! Don't give them this Pleasure!
With L.O.V.E
About locked threads... maybe that a warning before locking the thread would be better... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> .... <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
Yes, that's right. It's like a little corporate empire here so no one person holds the kill switch, which is a wonderful system, very smart, the information is very secure for as long as the internet and the electric grid exist so will this information.
I am very grateful for this and have great confidence in how things function here.
I am not trying to be mysterious, I was trying to not talk out of turn yet simultaneously ease people's concerns.
The members of this forum have to be "entertained", right? Kept busy, right?
Right now it's funny to me now how people don't pay attention to what TS said, that he used another username around here. Is that so unimportant?! To me NOT.
... we get a free training in hoaxing <!-- s
I love this !!
One person comes on the forum, makes great posts, revealeas things we were never thinking about, gets our trust and appreciation and then, out of the blue, his/hers evil twin gets "possession" of his/hers account !! Sounds like a hoax to me <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Hoax within a hoax within a hoax.
And if I am wrong so be it.... we are not here to be RIGHT all the time.....
Then why refer to Badkolo as a "higher power"? Everybody here knows who Badkolo is. Please don't create mystery when there is none. That's right where wild stories start, and that's something people here clearly don't appreciate.
I think we all compeletely lost the track by accusing each other.
So I would like to ask those who are doing this all the time: are you happy with what you are doing?
We are not getting any redirects from TS just because of that kind of behaviour!!!! So we are sort of punished now!
Ithink this is terrible!!!!!!!! It's sad to admit this but i think it's just the human nature!!!!!!!!
We start to talk about love and Michael's message an so on and so on...... and we end up with no new redirects anymore....
accusations...... suspision..............What are you doing people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it's about tome to wake up and to realize that what you are doing is completely wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is reminding me of the famous novel "Lord of the Flies" . It's about some children who got lost on an Island because of an airplane crash. In order to survive they formed some kind of a group with a group leader. Then they started to have their own tribe regulations and began to punish each others just like adults do. They ended up with behaving like kaniballs and wanted to hunt the weakest childern down in order to eat them. In this novel the narrator wants to emphasize that no matter how civilized human beings nowadays are, they will reach the point where thy would return to their savage origins because it's just our human nature. When I read the forum I think he is completely right.
This is toooooo saaaaaaad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So according to you the unfolding of the hoax completely depends on TS..? The hoax already existed before TS entered, and will continue with or without TS's redirects and posts. Be careful to not become dependent on ONE person.
I hope you are joking....
TS is not the creator,director,writer,subject or anything of this hoax/production/master piece..whatever you want to call it.
He/she is a small part of this forum who came well after June 25th 2009.
If you seriously think this hoax and forum is held together by one member using two letters as their name,you really should go back and start reading from the start,around 2005 when BACK was posting.
Oh,and some of the people being accused on here of being someone else deserve it,again if you were following more than one person would know this.It is not unjustified.
This is true, but I'd like to see that TS has to say at this moment there are so many questions about it.
However, i "left" a while ago due to this TS thing.
I was told to read TS and post less!
I dont believe in TS. I never have done and for me, to read all those long winded posts seems like a waste of my time that could be spent investigating and reading and trying to find out the truth of my beloved Michael.
Now that the TS issue seems to be breaking out and i see i have other members here who are now feeling what i have felt since the beginning of this issue, i may start to come back more often and choose to share the information i have gathered in my investigations.
Welcome back <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
TS is not the be all and end all as I said before.Don't let it put you off...just avoid those topics.Lots going on with the album,TR,the dodo..lol!
Get back involved and don't read anything you don't want to.
Thankyou. I will see how it goes. xxxx
I got very offended when i was told to post less and read TS... like i was being TOLD what to do and what to believe.. when in my heart, this TS person is a waste of my time.
It went against my investigation ethics.. i never believe anonymous sources who demand i believe in them. Nor do i think "clues" come heavily laden in mathematical puzzles, etc.
No one tells me what to believe. I decide that myself. x
What upset me is that i was demanded to read TS and stop posting on the forum - and this was told to me on a thread that had nothing to do with TS. It all got too much for me and wasnt how i expected a hoax forum to behave.
It should be about TRUTH. Without the truth we are lost. No lies, no secrets, we should all be on the same page and share what we know without discrimination.
I dont know if Michael is dead or alive.. all i want is the truth and that is what i am searching and working for.
I hope people can now realise that instead of leaning and relying on these shadowy internet characters like "TS" - we should be investigating, learning and sharing together as one. We can do it on our own.
I'm not part of some blind faith brigade. If TS couldn't back up his/her info then I wouldn't waste my time on him/her, either.
My stand point is I couldn't care less about who TS is. I don't read his/her posts anymore so it doesn't affect me. But if it's affecting the forum as a whole, upsetting (almost) everyone, why stay?
And you have every right to read and investigate which ever area you choose to.. and if you choose to read TS and belief in this person that that is no problem whatsoever.
The problem i had with it all is that I was being told by admins on this forum that i MUST believe in TS. Thats TS was telling the truth and that i MUST read all his posts and trust and believe in this person. That i MUST stop posting on the forum and use my time to read TS instead.
Thats not investigation to me. Thats PR.
Yes, you can point people in a direction and say "hey, you might want to look at this link or see what this person has to say" - but never demand and tell people that they MUST read it and they MUST trust this person.
Read what you want to read. Believe what you want to believe. Just as long as its your own decision than that is fine.
As an investigation i dont believe anyone should be shut down (and that includes TS) - and no one should be forced into going down a particular avenue in their investigations.
Ok... Im out the argument now. This was the reason i left the forum in the first place. <!-- s
Im not into making waves and causing arguments.
SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH!!! NOT TO PROVE A THEORY... JUST TO UNCOVER THE TRUTH!!!
My jaw just dropped on the floor. I am surprised to see that anyone could give to another member the power of "punishment". *Shaking my head*
Yes, I am waiting as well.
I read again the last post TS made and it is a mix of everything.
At times I read i understand that is a "MJ producer", another time I believe i read it is someone "cooperating with tmz" , other times that is just a member with theories.....
I should be getting lost in the translation because nothing is said clearly, all the info about "who am I and how do i get my info" from TS looks ambiguous.
TS explained that is not murder, that i get, but i want to know how he could predict the events regarding MJ. The only way is knowing in advance and i want to know how come.
GOD, TS is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD <!-- s
What about that numerology thing??? I think it makes sense and I believe in him.
Aren't we suppose to believe in him if we want to? Or don't you want us to even if we make up our minds and think he is telling the truth? And yes, several members said that he is giving us valuable information. Well, I'm missing these pieces information. Do you have something against this????