New Hoax Videos are SOOOOO bad!
Alfie3121
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Hey Guys!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I have been following the Hoax Vids from the beginning, and even from the beginning there were some videos which would really be clutching at straws on very minor bits of information, but they were all very interesting and insightful.
However, some of the videos in the last few months have been AWFUL! This is all culminating in a video I saw this morning where the video advised "Just check out Smooth Criminal from This Is It" it then cut to a copy of the Smooth Criminal performance from This Is It back to front and in turn the rest of the video was reversed (back to front)... So I'm watching and thinking "ok what am I looking out for here?"... and then the video stops and text appeared... "DID YOU SEE THAT!? SINCE WHEN DID MICHAEL DO DANCE MOVES WITH HIS LEFT HAND!!? THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A DOUBLE!" <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
Is this what we have come to people, videos with nothing new and just really stupid mistakes. I don't know about you but everytime I see a new video with a title like 'NEW EVIDENCE' I get a lil excited; but these recent videos are making our whole belief and us as as a group, less credible!
Imagine if a non believer went on Youtube and that was the first hoax video they watched!?
I'm not trying to knock or belittle anyones opinion, but come on guys, is anyone with me here?
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I have been following the Hoax Vids from the beginning, and even from the beginning there were some videos which would really be clutching at straws on very minor bits of information, but they were all very interesting and insightful.
However, some of the videos in the last few months have been AWFUL! This is all culminating in a video I saw this morning where the video advised "Just check out Smooth Criminal from This Is It" it then cut to a copy of the Smooth Criminal performance from This Is It back to front and in turn the rest of the video was reversed (back to front)... So I'm watching and thinking "ok what am I looking out for here?"... and then the video stops and text appeared... "DID YOU SEE THAT!? SINCE WHEN DID MICHAEL DO DANCE MOVES WITH HIS LEFT HAND!!? THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A DOUBLE!" <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
Is this what we have come to people, videos with nothing new and just really stupid mistakes. I don't know about you but everytime I see a new video with a title like 'NEW EVIDENCE' I get a lil excited; but these recent videos are making our whole belief and us as as a group, less credible!
Imagine if a non believer went on Youtube and that was the first hoax video they watched!?
I'm not trying to knock or belittle anyones opinion, but come on guys, is anyone with me here?
Comments
I realize that this will probably not change, but I still wanted to mention it as it has bugged me for a long, long time.
Despite this, I do appreciate the effort made by folks to make their hoax videos....just want to suggest that more time is taken to be sure mistakes are corrected before posting.
I totally agree with you, and am so happy to see that someone else feels the same way!
LOL yup! It kinda ruins their credibility. I tried showing my friend ( a non believer ) a video, and of course we came across incorrect grammar, and immediately he said "I cant take this video seriously, they cant even spell correctly" and immediately i was deflated because this person had to complete this video and upload it in warp speed that they didn't have time to run it past a colleague or review it themselves.
Are some videos reaching? Sure but perhaps the video creator doesn't see it that way. Maybe they do think that what they are sharing is valid information, clues etc. It really is the perspective of the individual...both the viewer and the creator. Is some of the information in hoax videos incorrect? Sure, new information may have come forward after a video was created. That doesn't mean that the entire video is worthless though.
The videos I have a problem believing, are the recent ones that are appearing with their "anonymous informers". The others that bother me are the abstract ones that just don't come out and say whatever it is they are trying to convey and leave it up to the viewer to try to figure it out. Honestly, if you have discovered something or think you have then share it plainly and don't play mind games. LastSevenWords comes to mind but many people rave about how great these videos are. I disagree but again that is just my opinion.
Show it to a colleague? Whom would that be?
Most of the people creating videos aren't professionals in the film and video industry. I currently work as a nanny. I never created a video before Michael's "death" and I honestly have no one to show it to as a review, there is just me. I am also not a professional investigator.
The people making hoax videos are from all walks of life, from all age groups and from all over the world. I am personally just glad that there are individuals who are taking the time to create these videos, in an effort to show that Michael is alive and this is a hoax. It can be a tedious and time consuming process to create these hoax videos. So yes, I appreciate all their efforts.
Oh I can always let spelling mistakes slide, they can happen and can disturb the credibility slightly, and like I said I'm even cool with some of the stretching that people do to find clues, it's videos like my example, where it's just a completely useless video that is belittling what we all believe!
Example, comparing pictures of Michael's ears, to me that's stretching BUT there may be a point there, it's all good. But when people are putting up back to front videos and then claiming that "Michael wasn't left handed" isn't that just ruining the hard word that you and many others put in to great, eye opening videos!
Of course this is just a discussion and I wanted people to share opinions on videos they have seen of late, but it's just a shame as I know these videos are turning believers into non believers.
Anymore thoughts anyone?
In regards to the errors, there is a difference between a non-native English speaker's errors and blatant spelling and/or grammatical errors. At least to me there is. Video makers could type the text portion of their videos into a program that does have a spellcheck, and then copy it into the video program. I would think that if someone is going to take the time to create a video, they could take just a few extra minutes to double check the spelling.
I don't know what to make of the "insider" videos that have sprung up lately....like trolls on this forum, the anonymity factor can be used for evil or good....and if any trolls are reading this post, let me just say the following: more than any other emotion, I feel pity for you....this Forum is actually a beautiful place and it saddens me greatly...even makes me doubt mankind....when such ugliness is exposed.
That being said, I apologize if I've hurt anyone's feelings. Truly.
Totally agree with you my friend and Serenity's vids are some of my faves. Whether we like it or not and as many of us as there are, us believers are a minority and it does sadden me when I see new videos coming out that are just plain silly.
Even with typos, credibility can be intact but the theme and content sometimes is just disrespectful and unneeded.
I got caught up in an argument with a youtuber recently (be it more them arguing). They chose to make a whole video on that rumor from years ago that Michael passed many years ago and was buried at Neverland, it was originally published by the Onion - a satirical website - they put all over their video "HOW INTERESTING" and "PEOPLE MUST BE INFORMED OF THIS" and I politely posted "you do know this is an old rumor, I don't know if this needs a hoax video dedicating to it". Maybe a lil disrespectful on my part but I felt in a sea of fantastic hoax videos, here was a video that brought absolutely nothing new except old, horrible rumors. The videos author went into a violent rant about how they were Michael's number 1 fan and anymore comments from me they knew 'people' who could take me off youtube.
It's this kinda thing that really makes me sad, but of course none of us can stop what happens on Youtube. My real reason for starting this thread was to share thoughts and feelings about the most recent videos and are these poorer videos swaying your belief at all?
It's just upsetting when you watch these newer vids and think "are we running out of clues, is no more evidence?" Do you guys ever feel that way?
Thanks
Stop doling out clues like cookies-- either you know or you don't. It makes me think you're not credible, and you're playing around.
I know we are not at School here but I do agree with you. For me, anyway, it does lessen the impact of a video when the spelling and grammar are poor.