"I was in the court room"

mjjammmjjamm Posts: 143
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
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  • thank you very much for this,it is an illusion...but well planned and it makes us feel scared,
  • Thankyou.

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  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    Thanks for sharing this...........
  • Wow - very interesting. Thank you for sharing! It's very interesting hearing this from someone who was there and it appears that she's a beLIEver.

    What she says is:
    According to Kenny Ortega an illusion was planned for June 25th.
    The personal assistant was behind the curtain at the hospital and
    Dr Murray was asked if he got a Diet Coke?

    Geez....today maybe they'll talk about sunflowers and Snickers.
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    what I understand is that Murray asked for the help with CPR, NOT that he didn't know how to do it. Again TMZ shit. I can't believe how we are lied. I almost cannot believe it's a hoax anymore, it's horrifying.
  • Reminder to watch this later.
  • HeartbreakerHeartbreaker Posts: 8,644
    Thank you for Sharing!!!
  • So we are lied by TMZ now. TMZ is trying to give a ridiculous look on this trial, when in fact things are not that "funny" inside. Murray asking for help and Murray having no idea about a simple procedure are totally different things. Last one makes us think Murray is not even a doctor so why would TMZ twist things in such manner? Now new questions arise and make me think that yes, we might be the audience, but a fooled audience with different actors than the one we expected to see and the scenario is the illusion of a hoax for financial reasons. All the mess with album Michael comes as an argument for it , too. The Jackson family had each one different opinions on it , but If Michael is still with us why haven't they all shared Michael's opinion and just agree all and be his ambasador, they couldn't be against him in his own project . Wasn't Michael in control of his album? Isn't Michael in control of the trial? Isn't Michael in control of the hoax anymore? Where is Michael? Because if this is a movie then it's a pretty bad one. Actors forgot their parts and don't make sense anymore, including the trial scene! And no, i can't buy that "it's all part of his plan" anymore. Maybe for the death theory things don't add up but for the hoax theory they don't add up even more.
  • angelshadowangelshadow Posts: 8,257
    Thanks for Sharing!
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    I am too emotionally loaded, I am a person guided by feelings and not by ration, I'm too overloaded right now with fear, grief gathered in all this time, that... I just can't use the ration in this and only my heart, which is scared to death.
    I probably need to think with my mind somehow, but I don't know how. Too much to deal with right now..
  • Ana, obviously you are stressed as we all are, each one for different reasons. Just try not to let yourself overwhelmed by that, it's not good for your health. I know it's hard but i don't know, maybe watching a comedy, going out for a walk i don't know, things like this can help you detach a little. I really don't like to see everyone going in depression, we have to understand now before it's too late and before we are too damaged that Michael will be forever with us and this, even if it turns out to be a hoax or not, does not change. Of course, we want him alive. Buf we must be prepared for whatever the truth is and i am afraid that in case things are not as expected we might take this even harder that the first time because all of this hope, energy and time spent around this hoax. Illusion or not, we must be prepared to accept whatever comes without depression and pain.
  • Red_RoseRed_Rose Posts: 223
    ok...Depressing...pain... sadeness...all of this is in my heart and I don't know why... Usually I'm a strong person... but now I'm scared <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
    I know that Michael is alive.... we have all that proofs ..but I really don't now what's all about with this trial, really.
    Anyway I saw that what Kenny Ortega said in the court yesterday it doesn't really matches with what he wrote on his twitter page back in June 2009, regarding Michael's rehearsals <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • "They were going to introduce a new illusion on June 25th".... ya think?! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • So we are lied by TMZ now. TMZ is trying to give a ridiculous look on this trial, when in fact things are not that "funny" inside. Murray asking for help and Murray having no idea about a simple procedure are totally different things. Last one makes us think Murray is not even a doctor so why would TMZ twist things in such manner? Now new questions arise and make me think that yes, we might be the audience, but a fooled audience with different actors than the one we expected to see and the scenario is the illusion of a hoax for financial reasons. All the mess with album Michael comes as an argument for it , too. The Jackson family had each one different opinions on it , but If Michael is still with us why haven't they all shared Michael's opinion and just agree all and be his ambasador, they couldn't be against him in his own project . Wasn't Michael in control of his album? Isn't Michael in control of the trial? Isn't Michael in control of the hoax anymore? Where is Michael? Because if this is a movie then it's a pretty bad one. Actors forgot their parts and don't make sense anymore, including the trial scene! And no, i can't buy that "it's all part of his plan" anymore. Maybe for the death theory things don't add up but for the hoax theory they don't add up even more.


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  • m8ightym8ighty Posts: 99
    Is it normal for a court of law to draw from a lottery so that fans can sit in on the performance, uhh... i mean court hearing. Idk that just seems out of the ordinary to me... it all just seems so set up to me. Like when they where doing a lottery for tickets for the memorial....?....
  • lovemjlovemj Posts: 129
    computer playing up hopefully i can look at this later
  • She said it was an illusion on June 25. Meaning that it was not Michael who died but someone who looks like him. Or he pretended to be dead so he could have done his escape. Guys do not give up hope, I am reading some of you are losing hope. Michael is alive. Please BELIEVE... Do not give up on him, please.
    Blessings to all.
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    She says: 'On June 25th they were going to introduce a new illusion'. Ok, an interesting statement, especially to us hoaxers!

    But without my hoax glasses on, and my 'general public' ones on, I have to acknowledge that this could simply indicate that in the rehearsals on 25th they were planning to try a new concert 'illusion' (I think to do with Dirty Diana/Beat It).
  • If the illusion had to do with the concert, then why wasn't it mentioned in TII? I thought they said they were all done and ready to load up and go to London.
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    If the illusion had to do with the concert, then why wasn't it mentioned in TII? I thought they said they were all done and ready to load up and go to London.

    Well, there lie more inconsistencies! Some accounts say they'd done a couple of full run-throughs, others that Dirty Diana wasn't complete, costumes were not finished (according to TII). That's before you even begin to talk about if MJ was fit or not! There was no way IMO they were ready for London, but then, also IMO, the concerts were never going to happen anyway - it was all for the film. So it's actually all pretty irrelevant!
  • Beyond the "Illusion" revelation, I also heard two other key Hoax phrases mentioned here:

    Behind the Curtain
    Coke

    Just sayin'!
  • I love this lady. Anyway, there was one thing that stood out to me and that was when she said something about them switching security teams so I guess they switched from the Nation of Islam security to another company? I wasn't totally clear on it but that is interesting that they (assuming the estate) switched security teams when MJ is supposedly dead. Why would you need a security team for a dead guy?
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    She says: 'On June 25th they were going to introduce a new illusion'. Ok, an interesting statement, especially to us hoaxers!

    But without my hoax glasses on, and my 'general public' ones on, I have to acknowledge that this could simply indicate that in the rehearsals on 25th they were planning to try a new concert 'illusion' (I think to do with Dirty Diana/Beat It).
    This makes me picture a great magician putting the girl in a box, it appears as if he is cutting them in half with a saw, stabbing them with swords etc. but somehow with false bottoms, mirrors and who know how she emerges from the box unscathed.
    So everything about his death is supposed to look so real in gory detail, but somehow he's employing some tricks we don't understand yet, or perhaps will never know because magicians never like to tell their secrets. Just looking at the lyrics of both songs, there's plenty of possible clues.
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  • i am having some trouble figuring out why this part about an illusion has even come up in the testimony though <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
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