TIAI January 16

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  • Michael's mentioning of Martin Luther (without the addition King) is a reference to Martin Luther King only in my opinion. I cannot imagine he would have thought of Martin Luther, the reformer. That is why I do not believe TS is Michael or Elvis, but someone else. Michael was well-read, and Martin Luther is certainly not the best example of a role model for human rights and humanity in relation to other opinions and their acceptance. He was lacking tolerance and was preaching hate against people of other faith than his own, especially in his later years.

    To say he was a child of his time is too easy. We all are formed by the time and circumstances we live in.
    But we are given a free will to decide one way or the other. ML had this choice as well. He judged a group of people in a prejudiced way, without having had direct personal contact. They were like the pestilence for him just because they existed and had to be extinguished like vermin. Very dangerous ideas. What did the official church say to this? Has there been a cover-up? Silence can be interpretated as acceptance.

    Another reformer at that time was Calvin, who, despite having been just a little less totalitarian than ML all in all, nonetheless was for witch-hunting and torturing them or branding men as heretics.

    Michael Servetus, a humanitarian and freethinker, ahead of his time, was a victim of Calvin, who helped burn him at the stake for his belief. He is an example of how it was possible even in difficult times to think different and remain free of guilt in the name of religion, which had been misused so many times in history.
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    I have listened to many videos of TDRCAU..... the way he sings, "...if Martin Luther was livin', he wouldn't let it be..." All the lyric sites say "he wouldn't let this be"....I hear the first version let it be. Are you following me so far.....crazy, I know!
    What I am getting at is the phrase let it be.....it's a Beatles' song....is it one he owns? TMZ has an article with it:
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    Let It Be has some interesting lyrics

    When I find myself in times of trouble, mother Mary comes to me,
    speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
    And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me,
    speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
    Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be.
    Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
    And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree,
    there will be an answer, let it be.
    For though they may be parted there is still a chance that they will see,
    there will be an answer. let it be.
    Let it be, let it be, .....
    And when the night is cloudy, there is still a light, that shines on me,
    shine until tomorrow, let it be.
    I wake up to the sound of music, mother Mary comes to me,
    speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
    Let it be, let it be, .....


    Could it be that Michael was indeed referencing this song as well? I think it just adds another possible layer to all that we know already. The title fits with the song (TDRCAU), it's a Beatles song, and the lyrics are probably close to his heart.
    I know it's a stretch...but it literally woke me up! This is a really interesting thread.......thank you all so much for all the hard work and thought! You astound me!
    Blessings Always!
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    If we are villifying Martin Luther, then we in fairness should examine Martin Luther King Jr. as well. In contrast to Martin Luther he had a reputation of being a strong supporter of Jews and Israel.
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    But there was a good reason for that. His movement was being financed by Jews, who also had an agenda. Deep rabbit holes that lead you to many other places that all connect. This following article is only part of a much longer article that is well worth reading as well. It is interesting that this writer says his name was originally Michael King. Language warning.
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    Even in the areas where Jews were not the actual leaders, they provided much of the behind-the-scenes influence. Martin Luther King Jr. fell under the guidance of Stanley Levinson, who wrote many of King's speeches, including, some say, the "I Have a Dream" speech delivered at the March on Washington. John and Robert Kennedy warned King to disassociate himself from Levinson because of Levinson's Communist record. King, however, found Levinson invaluable and refused. The Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) also had key Jewish involvement in their formative periods, and most of the nominally White "Freedom Riders" that went South were Jews. The famous case of the three Freedom Riders killed in Philadelphia, Mississippi, involved Schwerner, Goodman, and Chaney - two Jews and one Black.

    The public image of the man who called himself "Martin Luther King" (his legal name was Michael King) is a textbook illustration of the power of the media to influence America. Most people still do not know of the extent of King's involvement in Communism, in part because the media continues to ignore King's long record of Communist associations. King privately declared himself to be a Marxist, and told his inner circle that his efforts were a part of the "class struggle." His personal secretary, Bayard Rustin, was a Communist. When King had to replace Rustin in 1961, he chose another Communist, Jack O'Dell. His main advisor ("handler" would probably be a more apt term), as I've mentioned, was Jewish Communist Stanley Levinson, who edited and probably wrote a good deal of King's book Stride Toward Freedom. Levinson prepared King's income tax returns, controlled King's fundraising activities, and was also in charge of funneling Soviet money to the Communist Party, USA.

    Only recently has it been revealed that King plagiarized large sections of his doctoral thesis. Boston University formed a committee to determine the extent of King's plagiarism. It determined that 45 percent of the first part and 21 percent of the second part were taken from other authors. Schools regularly revoke degrees on discovery of far less cheating, but the importance of King to the civil-rights movement prevented the revocation of his divinity degree.

    The media have always carefully portrayed King as a good Christian family man - the epitome of a man of God. But King had dozens of liaisons with prostitutes, White and Black, used church money to pay them and commonly beat them - all documented by the FBI and admitted by King associates.

    King even spent the night before his assassination copulating with and beating White prostitutes. On the FBI surveillance tapes the "Reverend King" can be heard during intercourse to say, " I'm f---ing for God!" and "I'm not a Negro tonight!" The King records are so damning that the tapes and other FBI documents were sealed for 50 years. Despite these facts, King's Jewish handlers and their allies in the media were steadfast in their laudatory portrayal of King.

    Even in the areas where Jews were not the actual leaders, they provided much of the behind-the-scenes influence. Martin Luther King Jr. fell under the guidance of Stanley Levinson, who wrote many of King's speeches, including, some say, the "I Have a Dream" speech delivered at the March on Washington. John and Robert Kennedy warned King to disassociate himself from Levinson because of Levinson's Communist record. King, however, found Levinson invaluable and refused. The Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) also had key Jewish involvement in their formative periods, and most of the nominally White "Freedom Riders" that went South were Jews. The famous case of the three Freedom Riders killed in Philadelphia, Mississippi, involved Schwerner, Goodman, and Chaney - two Jews and one Black.

    The public image of the man who called himself "Martin Luther King" (his legal name was Michael King) is a textbook illustration of the power of the media to influence America. Most people still do not know of the extent of King's involvement in Communism, in part because the media continues to ignore King's long record of Communist associations. King privately declared himself to be a Marxist, and told his inner circle that his efforts were a part of the "class struggle." His personal secretary, Bayard Rustin, was a Communist. When King had to replace Rustin in 1961, he chose another Communist, Jack O'Dell. His main advisor ("handler" would probably be a more apt term), as I've mentioned, was Jewish Communist Stanley Levinson, who edited and probably wrote a good deal of King's book Stride Toward Freedom. Levinson prepared King's income tax returns, controlled King's fundraising activities, and was also in charge of funneling Soviet money to the Communist Party, USA.

    Only recently has it been revealed that King plagiarized large sections of his doctoral thesis. Boston University formed a committee to determine the extent of King's plagiarism. It determined that 45 percent of the first part and 21 percent of the second part were taken from other authors. Schools regularly revoke degrees on discovery of far less cheating, but the importance of King to the civil-rights movement prevented the revocation of his divinity degree.

    The media have always carefully portrayed King as a good Christian family man - the epitome of a man of God. But King had dozens of liaisons with prostitutes, White and Black, used church money to pay them and commonly beat them - all documented by the FBI and admitted by King associates.

    King even spent the night before his assassination copulating with and beating White prostitutes. On the FBI surveillance tapes the "Reverend King" can be heard during intercourse to say, " I'm f---ing for God!" and "I'm not a Negro tonight!" The King records are so damning that the tapes and other FBI documents were sealed for 50 years. Despite these facts, King's Jewish handlers and their allies in the media were steadfast in their laudatory portrayal of King.

    But you know, the long and the short of it is, much of our history in the books, is lies that have been embellished and fortified by Hollywood and news makers, etc. I don't believe that the Catholic church is the anti-christ because there is a larger entity than even her and includes her, the International Jews or Illuminati or 13 bloodlines are part of this larger entity of counterfeit truth to the Bible. This entity goes back before Christ, back to Babylon and before that to Nimrod and before that. Like God used Judas Iscariot to betray and bring on the crucifixion of Jesus, so God is using this strain of evil through generations to fulfill the beautiful plan of history with it's twists and unexpected turns. I don't want to go into here, the true identity of the Jews and the true Israelites. See <!-- m -->http://www.hebrewisraelites.org<!-- m --> Again, God loves all people groups, and I believe will save ALL people in their own allotted times. This is what I read in the Bible. I don't believe that the catholic church is the beast or anti-christ, but may be a part of it. Rather:
    Revelation 17:17
    17For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
    18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
    Revelation 18:16-24 (King James Version)

    16And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

    17For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

    18And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

    19And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

    20Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

    21And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

    22And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

    23And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

    24And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.[/quote]
    Revelation 16:19
    19And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
    Revelation 11:8-9
    8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
    9And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
    Here are the words of Jesus Himself of that identity.
    Matthew 23:31-39

    31Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

    32Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

    33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

    34Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

    35That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
    36Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

    37O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

    38Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

    39For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
    Apostle John adds to Jesus' words as he talks about the Synogogue of Satan and their lies.
    I believe the Beast or anti-christ is possibly an individual or group, but it is this entity of whatever name it is called Illuminati/International Jews/false bloodlines whose symbolic headquarters is Jerusalem, that Great City. But God is love and always has a greater purpose which benefit all people. JMO
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    With my above post I would guess that the reason MJ put their names plus Roosevelt into his song TDRCAU, and TS into his post, is what they represent--which is revolutionaries who fought against the status quo--be that racism, the stronghold power of the church. Freedom to believe, freedom to pursue a happy life without servitude.

    Michael was 50 when he "died" and in the Bible, 50 was the year of jubilee when in Old Testament law, all slaves/servants were allowed to go free. And there were 50 concerts that MJ "died" so that he did not have to undergo that "hell" as he claimed he felt on tour. There may be more 50's in the hoax but I can't think of them right now. Read the whole chapter in Leviticus 25 but specifically 25:50-55.
    50And he shall reckon with him that bought him from the year that he was sold to him unto the year of jubile: and the price of his sale shall be according unto the number of years, according to the time of an hired servant shall it be with him.

    51If there be yet many years behind, according unto them he shall give again the price of his redemption out of the money that he was bought for.

    52And if there remain but few years unto the year of jubile, then he shall count with him, and according unto his years shall he give him again the price of his redemption.

    53And as a yearly hired servant shall he be with him: and the other shall not rule with rigour over him in thy sight.

    54And if he be not redeemed in these years, then he shall go out in the year of jubile, both he, and his children with him.

    55For unto me the children of Israel are servants; they are my servants whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
    Here's an article that explains the Jubilee and other related Bible number stuff.
    The Jubilee System:

    The bible says that the jubilee cycles began from the time that Israel (Jacob's descendents) entered the land of Canaan in 1406 BC, (Lev. 25:2). However, God intended that the seventh-year Sabbath cycles begin 40 years earlier, that is, just after the exodus from Egypt in 1446 BC. (Note: Israel kept both seventh-day Sabbaths and seventh-year Sabbaths.) But Israel rebelled and instead wandered in the wilderness 40 years. When studying the jubilee system, it is imperative to study it both from when God desired Israel to enter the land and from when they actually did 40 years later. The reason is that God will ultimately hold Israel to account for all its missing Sabbaths including those of the wilderness wandering. God will reckon the missing Sabbath-years from when they rebelled shortly after the exodus and not merely from when they finally entered entered the promised land. This will become increasingly evident as we study the numeric revealed in the Bible about the missing Sabbaths. Therefore, although Israel kept track of its Sabbaths and jubilees from the time of the conquest in 1406 BC (as commanded), yet God kept track of them according to the plan that He originally intended, because when it came time to judge Israel for its ongoing rebellion He also included the 40 years of rebellion in the wilderness. And so "the land enjoyed its missing Sabbath rests" as calculated from the very day that God intended it to rest. For the land did not rest during those 40 years of rebellion between 1446 and 1406 BC because the Canaanites still ruled the land. (See endnote 1 for more on why the 40-year desert wandering is to be included in the time that the land should have had its rest.)

    A jubilee was simply seven cycles of seven years, with the 50th year being the jubilee year, but not so as to break the on-going seven-year Sabbaths. Ten jubilee amount to 490 years, not 500. Leviticus 25 makes this absolutely certain when it talks about the "9th year". The text makes it clear that both the seventh" and "eighth" year are to be Sabbath years during a jubilee year. This would not be so if the regular seven-year Sabbath cycles did not stay in synchronization with the jubilee cycles of 49 years. The 49th year would not always be a Sabbath year in that case, only the 50th year would then be a Sabbath during a jubilee cycle. But God promised to bless the "sixth year" with enough of a harvest to last "three years" so that there would be no need to reap in the "seventh year" (that is the regular Sabbath year of the ongoing seven-year Sabbaths), and in the "eight year" too. But in the "ninth year" they would reap again as normal. Thus it is crystal clear that a jubilees are in 49-year cycles in synchronization with the regular Sabbath years. On a practical note, God is not the author of confusion, and if jubilee cycles and regular Sabbath-year cycles were kept out of synchronization then the whole system would be confusing for common farmers to keep track of.
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    So in my opinion it all relates to freedom from oppression, freedom to love God and pursue happiness.
  • No matter who chooses these redirects. They are educational or controversial or otherwise interesting, and even if we don't agree with the person or their character flaws described, we can come to new ideas and conclusions.
    It was Michael again, who warned us of how history can be twisted in books, they can be as manipulative as persons.
    Many -isms, ideologies are man-made and partial. It is never wrong to ask for the motives behind them.

    With many of the ones on a pedestral, when taken to the ground, their earthly colors show. They didn't always live up to their public image and to what they preached. We don't know all the abyss of their lives and the evil or less evil connections they had. Our life is too short to study it all.
    Some of their achievements in life are not to be denied, character is another side of their personalities.
    Wherever you look there is a dark spot in many a biography, be it Martin Luther with or without King, the Kennedys, Billy Clinton and others. We have been deceived and lied to many times.
    The problems start, when humans are powerful in society by their words and they fight against one oppression as they perceive it, but don't see themselves as oppressors in other fields of life, where they do more or less the same, without realizing their responsibility and impact on generations to come.

    Jesus had to be sent into this world to present us a humble human being to take the sin of the world on his shoulders symbolically, he had to die and be resurrected again. His example has endured over the centuries. The Magdalene theme (the female sinner under the cruzifix) is interesting in this context and the Holy Gral with all its conspiracy involved.
    But that is a completely new chapter.
  • Its herIts her Posts: 1,137
    Well, well, well! On the subject of all the crap in print about Dr. MLK Jr., this cements it fast in my mind why Almighty God decided to write His son, Jesus' HIStory HIMSELF: because NO man can be trusted to tell only the truth about another man.

    Even then, men have attempted to moon God, and alter the meanings of the Word of God with their newly copyrighted heretic translations, still under His name, mocking His curse upon ANY who corrupt His Word. Apparently they don't know about His "Ace", His Holy Spirit, who is still here, to find and REVEAL the Truth for us, in any translation we happen to find ourselves studying.

    It is only because of God's loving attribute of longsuffering, that such slanderers don't instantly self-combust during their treachery.

    We CAN'T believe hardly anything we read, about anybody. All men lie. Especially about pure souls, attempting to right the wrong in the world. TPTB make up juicy, interesting fiction, if one is into mental pollution, to ruin a righteous man's power of influence. There is nothing new under the sun. Evil loves only its own. <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> If Martin Luther King Jr. were even, as was stated, closet evil, he'd still be alive.

    Consider the Source. If the source is not God's word, and doesn't edify, as God's Word does, the chances of it being true, are slim and none. Read everything, especially history, which there is no one living to substantiate, with a big block of salt nearby. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
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