Dieter Weisner: Batshit went through Mike's luggage

SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
Just posted on CT's YouTube:

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In October 2010 Charles Thomson interviewed Dieter Wiesner, who served as Michael Jackson's manager from 1997 until 2003.

During the interview Wiesner made the shocking claim that on a trip to Berlin in 2002, he had caught Martin Bashir sneaking into Michael Jackson's suite and going through the superstar's luggage.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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  • mjssoulmatemjssoulmate Posts: 820
    Does that surprise anyone? He isn't called Batshit for nothing.
  • voiceforthesilentvoiceforthesilent Posts: 5,485
    I'm appalled that Mr Bashir stooped so low as to go through Michael's personal belongings. I will need to see that interview before commenting more but if this is true it further shows the character of the man.
  • willddoMJwillddoMJ Posts: 699
    Make posters, called Martin Bashit, with his image on there, people ,will know who he is better.
  • onemoretimeonemoretime Posts: 114
    Uri Geller was negotiating to have the contact with Bashir and it's been said, another offer had been turned down.
    Why was there such an interest in B. to get the deal? I wonder what he wanted to find (out) by going through his luggage. Spies tend to do that. Seems Michael sometimes trusted the wrong people, because he was trustworthy himself and others had another agenda, but didn't show their true colors. B. had perfect inside knowledge after such a long time of contact with him. Does Uri G. play an important role here? If yes, why?
    He was a "good friend" after all.
    Dieter Wiesner was convinced it broke Michael and was the beginning of his suffering. He felt betrayed.
  • suspicious mindsuspicious mind Posts: 5,984
    i don't feel to warm and fuzzy about weisner either though.
  • onemoretimeonemoretime Posts: 114
    Neither do I.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    i don't feel to warm and fuzzy about weisner either though.
    Same here.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • voiceforthesilentvoiceforthesilent Posts: 5,485
    i don't feel to warm and fuzzy about weisner either though.
    Same here.

    I think it's unanimous. Something about him doesn't make you want to put your trust in him...
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    I was just watching this very interesting clip about Dieter and Michael, and then accidently found this thread. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
    Dieter Wiesner interview for "life and style" a german fanboard magazine on July 13 2009
    [youtube:2mld5kx7]
  • voiceforthesilentvoiceforthesilent Posts: 5,485
    This is what BACK had to say about Dieter Weisner...
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    From the blog V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
    About Mike’s team; Konitzer, Schaffel & Weisner:

    Q. by Tom Mesereau – A. by Deborah Rowe
    Q. During the period of the interview — I say “during the period.” That’s a little bit vague. Let me withdraw that. Around the time of the interview, did you talk to Konitzer at all?

    A. I spoke with him when I spoke with Mr. Jackson to arrange it. And he and Dieter and Marc had been on the phone. They had been on the phone to tell me about problems that were going on, yes.

    Q. And you’ve also made statements to the sheriffs that you thought Dieter and Konitzer were manipulating Michael Jackson, correct?

    A. Yes.

    Q. You thought Dieter and Konitzer were taking advantage of Michael Jackson, true?

    A. Yes.

    Q. And you thought they were trying to manipulate Michael Jackson to make a lot of money, right?

    A. Yes.

    Q. Was it your perception, based upon what you observed of Schaffel, Dieter and Konitzer, that those three were working together?

    A. Oh, yeah.

    Q. You definitely got that impression?

    A. Oh, yeah.

    Q. Okay. And was it your impression that those three were working together to find ways to use Michael Jackson’s name so they could profit?

    A. Yes.

    Q. And at one point you told the sheriffs that you thought Michael Jackson was, in some ways, very removed from what those guys were doing, right?

    A. In my past knowledge, he’s removed from the handlers, the people who are taking care of business, and they make all the decisions. There’s a number of times they don’t consult him.

    Q. And you thought these three guys, Schaffel, Dieter and Konitzer, were doing just that, didn’t you?

    A. Very strongly.

    ———-

    Q. Did Schaffel, in your mind, ever ask you to help him in his business dealings with Mr. Jackson?

    A. No. He just bragged about either how he took advantage of an opportunity that I’m sure he knew nothing about or how he was going to do this, that or the other thing to make sure that Michael’s career was saved, and things of that nature.

    Q. Did Schaffel tell you that he was involved in business matters with Dieter?

    A. Yes.

    Q. Did Schaffel tell you he was involved in business matters with Konitzer?

    A. Yes. In Europe.

    Q. Okay. And did you ever get the impression he was not giving Michael Jackson all the information about what he was up to?

    A. He was like everybody else around Mr. Jackson. Yeah, he wasn’t telling him everything.

    Q. Why did you think Schaffel was calling you?

    A. To placate me. To say that, “Oh, no, I’m working on it. You’ll be seeing the kids. Michael’s very excited about it. Everything’s going to be great. They’re still in Florida.” You know, “As soon as they get home you guys will be together.”

    Q. And you didn’t think he was being truthful, right?

    A. Obviously he’s full of shit. Sorry. I’m sorry, Your Honor.

    Q. You consider Marc Schaffel a liar, don’t you?

    A. Yes.

    Q. You consider Dieter a liar, don’t you?

    A. Yes.

    Q. You consider Konitzer to be a liar, don’t you?

    A. Yes.

    ———-

    Q. He told you he wanted over a million dollars from Michael Jackson, true?

    A. He said Michael owed him a million dollars.

    Q. And approximately when did Marc Schaffel tell you he was going to sue Michael Jackson?

    A. Six months ago maybe. It may have been longer than that, but I’m not really good with — if you could give me something to refer to at a time, I could say yes, it happened then. But I think it was about six months ago. And then he told me, about three months ago, that he and his lawyer were filing papers.

    Q. And did you ever learn at some point that he had actually sued Michael Jackson?

    A. He told me that they’d filed the papers.

    ———-

    Q. And correct me if I’m wrong, I think what you’re saying is that many hours of your interview don’t appear in that DVD, right?

    A. I don’t see how I could have sat there for seven hours and only had three hours on tape. I don’t remember any breaks except for when the cameras were — the film was being changed. I interrupted the interview to tell them the film was — the camera was blinking, the light. I didn’t want to be in the middle of the statement and have to start over again, to tell them that the lights were blinking, to change the film. I saw cuts in that film, in that tape, that were — had nothing with me saying, “It’s blinking, take it off,” so there’s — there is stuff missing from that video.

    Q. When Schaffel told you he’d made seven and a half million dollars off your interview, did he ever tell you who he made the money from?

    A. I think he said it was FOX Network. And someone in Europe. But I don’t remember who it was in Europe.

    Q. And was it your understanding that he kept all the footage of your interview?

    A. Yes. It was all taken upstairs to a bedroom where they did the editing that night.

    Q. Okay. How did you know they did the editing that night?

    A. I was there for about an hour when they were doing it.

    Q. Were you upstairs in the bedroom while they were doing it?

    A. Yes.

    ———-

    Q. Now, Mr. Jackson wasn’t there for any of that interview, was he?

    A. No.

    Debbie obviously didn’t trust the three men. The more you read up on the trial, the more you will get the feeling that Mike had no idea what these men were doing. This is what we found on Wiesner:

    Jacko Loses Logo; Manager Owns Sex Clubs
    By Roger Friedman
    FOX NEWS
    “Michael Jackson’s got some big problems. And that’s besides being arrested for child molestation. Jackson has no idea that his current manager, Dieter Wiesner, the man who helped hire attorney Mark Geragos and is now calling the shots in the Jackson camp, is known for operating sex clubs and brothels at home in Germany.”

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    He is using MJ´s image as well in his web.
    <!-- m -->http://www.dieterwiesner.com/michaeljackson.html<!-- m -->
  • voiceforthesilentvoiceforthesilent Posts: 5,485
    He is using MJ´s image as well in his web.
    <!-- m -->http://www.dieterwiesner.com/michaeljackson.html<!-- m -->

    I hope this is someone who will be exposed by Michael in the end. My blood is starting to boil over all of these people who weren't faithful or friends. They were only out for his money. Shameful. Now we know why we distrust Mr Weisner. It's with good reason.

    Also - if Debbie distrusts the three of them so much, why didn't she approach Michael with this? Also, didn't she just go to Japan with one of them - or am I mistaken?
  • suspicious mindsuspicious mind Posts: 5,984
    He is using MJ´s image as well in his web.
    <!-- m -->http://www.dieterwiesner.com/michaeljackson.html<!-- m -->

    I hope this is someone who will be exposed by Michael in the end. My blood is starting to boil over all of these people who weren't faithful or friends. They were only out for his money. Shameful. Now we know why we distrust Mr Weisner. It's with good reason.

    Also - if Debbie distrusts the three of them so much, why didn't she approach Michael with this? Also, didn't she just go to Japan with one of them - or am I mistaken?


    schaffle
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    He is using MJ´s image as well in his web.
    <!-- m -->http://www.dieterwiesner.com/michaeljackson.html<!-- m -->

    I hope this is someone who will be exposed by Michael in the end. My blood is starting to boil over all of these people who weren't faithful or friends. They were only out for his money. Shameful. Now we know why we distrust Mr Weisner. It's with good reason.

    Also - if Debbie distrusts the three of them so much, why didn't she approach Michael with this? Also, didn't she just go to Japan with one of them - or am I mistaken?


    schaffle
    Yep, that's what baffled me as well...

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • StyloprincessStyloprincess Posts: 544
    well that isn't suprising...and can I just also mention that this guy has a really strong German accent? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Not that that's bad or anything...just kinda funny^^
  • voiceforthesilentvoiceforthesilent Posts: 5,485
    He is using MJ´s image as well in his web.
    <!-- m -->http://www.dieterwiesner.com/michaeljackson.html<!-- m -->

    I hope this is someone who will be exposed by Michael in the end. My blood is starting to boil over all of these people who weren't faithful or friends. They were only out for his money. Shameful. Now we know why we distrust Mr Weisner. It's with good reason.

    Also - if Debbie distrusts the three of them so much, why didn't she approach Michael with this? Also, didn't she just go to Japan with one of them - or am I mistaken?


    schaffle
    Yep, that's what baffled me as well...


    Okay - so, Debbie admitted that these guys were using Michael and that they were not trustworthy. Then, 5 years later she's jet-setting to Japan with one of them. Either she has memory loss or she's given in to greed herself. I'm highly disappointed if that's the case because that would mean she doesn't have Michael's best interests at heart either.
  • suspicious mindsuspicious mind Posts: 5,984
    He is using MJ´s image as well in his web.
    <!-- m -->http://www.dieterwiesner.com/michaeljackson.html<!-- m -->

    I hope this is someone who will be exposed by Michael in the end. My blood is starting to boil over all of these people who weren't faithful or friends. They were only out for his money. Shameful. Now we know why we distrust Mr Weisner. It's with good reason.

    Also - if Debbie distrusts the three of them so much, why didn't she approach Michael with this? Also, didn't she just go to Japan with one of them - or am I mistaken?


    schaffle
    Yep, that's what baffled me as well...

    Okay - so, Debbie admitted that these guys were using Michael and that they were not trustworthy. Then, 5 years later she's jet-setting to Japan with one of them. Either she has memory loss or she's given in to greed herself. I'm highly disappointed if that's the case because that would mean she doesn't have Michael's best interests at heart either.


    that tape with them discussing the issue of the power of attorney always makes me wonder what went on there.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    He is using MJ´s image as well in his web.
    <!-- m -->http://www.dieterwiesner.com/michaeljackson.html<!-- m -->

    I hope this is someone who will be exposed by Michael in the end. My blood is starting to boil over all of these people who weren't faithful or friends. They were only out for his money. Shameful. Now we know why we distrust Mr Weisner. It's with good reason.

    Also - if Debbie distrusts the three of them so much, why didn't she approach Michael with this? Also, didn't she just go to Japan with one of them - or am I mistaken?


    schaffle
    Yep, that's what baffled me as well...


    Okay - so, Debbie admitted that these guys were using Michael and that they were not trustworthy. Then, 5 years later she's jet-setting to Japan with one of them. Either she has memory loss or she's given in to greed herself. I'm highly disappointed if that's the case because that would mean she doesn't have Michael's best interests at heart either.

    Agree and yeah she went to Japan with him. Probably that is the reason why Michael didn't involve her in the hoax and doesn't allow her to see the kids.
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