TIAI January 30

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  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Besides that, she lost her credibility when she went after that YouTube fake and showed everyone a fake wooden door and made an elephant out of a mosquito over it.

    Thank you
    Souza

    I've been thinking about that particular Vid a lot lately....I did read or watch on the tube Pear's take on it...wasn't it her theory that could not be him because it was not at his condo...or something like that...WHY would he even BE in the country?
    If I am mistaken you will have to forgive me...as the rest of you I've seen a LOT of Vid's and read a ton on the MJ subject.

    Back to that particular Vid....JMO.
    Personally I am not so sure it is fake.
    My thoughts on it are it could be MJ in rehab.
    I know for a fact that withdrawal from ling term Benzo's can and does.....
    cause you to have seizures and that guy in that vidio looks like he is trying to
    dance but is having trouble doing so.
    That was not MJ and I really don't think he could have pulled this all off while being addicted to any kind of drugs. He is NOT a druggie. He hates it and has made that known many many times. Medications for illnesses and treatments for whatever? Yes. Drugs just to be out of it or to sleep? No, I don't believe that for a second. Never have, never will. I must say that I was surprised to hear on June 25 that he might had died because of a drug overdose, because as far as I knew he didn't do drugs. I think they drugged him enough back in the days against his will, to make him hate everything about it.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • Wow That was quick...hahahah

    Okay this is JMO once again.

    I think he did take some zanax or a form of benzo's because he suffered from
    anxiety problems....which would not be an abnormal thing to do considering his life and what went on from a very young age.

    However, they are verra addicting and I can understand him taking more than prescribed because of the tolerance buildup and he was in SO MANY situations like that it can be overwhelming.
    If you have ever had an anxiety or panic attack...you would know what I mean.
    It is the scariest most frustrating thing in the world.

    You can tell from observing him some vid's which involve
    crowds...especially the paparazzi.....and fans when he is trying to shop.

    I watched one one night of him that made ME anxiec just watching it! I went laterally in his place and shaking like it was me.

    He was in a book store and it was a small one he finally went and tried to hide from all of the fans and the paparazzi behind a shelf of books and you could see him talking on a cell phone and he was shaking.
    while his security was trying to get rid of the crowd and get him out of there.

    This would be nothing to be ashamed of millions of people suffer from this world wide...more than ever in these trying times.

    Hell I would have to be on something like that just to LIVE his life. I put a Vid on here somewhere the other night titled beat boxing that shows just a few of the times he was sued in court. UUhhhhhh. Poor Guy!

    As far all of the other drugs they found at his house....not sure so I am buying into that.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Wow That was quick...hahahah

    Okay this is JMO once again.

    I think he did take some zanax or a form of benzo's because he suffered from
    anxiety problems....which would not be an abnormal thing to do considering his life and what went on from a very young age.

    However, they are verra addicting and I can understand him taking more than prescribed because of the tolerance buildup and he was in SO MANY situations like that it can be overwhelming.
    If you have ever had an anxiety or panic attack...you would know what I mean.
    It is the scariest most frustrating thing in the world.

    You can tell from observing him some vid's which involve
    crowds...especially the paparazzi.....and fans when he is trying to shop.

    I watched one one night of him that made ME anxiec just watching it! I went laterally in his place and shaking like it was me.

    He was in a book store and it was a small one he finally went and tried to hide from all of the fans and the paparazzi behind a shelf of books and you could see him talking on a cell phone and he was shaking.
    while his security was trying to get rid of the crowd and get him out of there.

    This would be nothing to be ashamed of millions of people suffer from this world wide...more than ever in these trying times.

    Hell I would have to be on something like that just to LIVE his life. I put a Vid on here somewhere the other night titled beat boxing that shows just a few of the times he was sued in court. UUhhhhhh. Poor Guy!

    As far all of the other drugs they found at his house....not sure so I am buying into that.

    Again, I do not think he could have pulled this off and be a druggie at once. Taking meds for treatment (like I said) is different from being a drug addict. Anyone pulling off something like this is in total control. That is my opinion. And I never said anyone should be ashamed for taking anti-anxiety medication because I really can understand that. But you were claiming MJ was in some kind of rehab house near the street to get rid of his drug addiction, letting people film him while he was having withdrawel signs. That and someone being in total control of his hoax do not match in my world, sorry.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • Okay if that was him...how do we know for a fact that he knew he was being filmed?

    Another thing to consider is this...perhaps he did not plan a hoax...someone who cared about him did.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Okay if that was him...how do we know for a fact that he knew he was being filmed?

    Another thing to consider is this...perhaps he did not plan a hoax...someone who cared about him did.

    Clues dropped, fake court, and numerology. Also the giant budget it must be taking to pull this off. Who else could foot the bill? This is a (so far) 19 month production. It's extremely intricate, complex, and elaborate, with many layers. It had to have taken years of forethought and planning to put it together and run so perfectly for so long with still the vast majority of the world being none the wiser and not one person being able to prove the contrary.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Okay if that was him...how do we know for a fact that he knew he was being filmed?

    Another thing to consider is this...perhaps he did not plan a hoax...someone who cared about him did.

    Clues dropped, fake court, and numerology. Also the giant budget it must be taking to pull this off. Who else could foot the bill? This is a (so far) 19 month production. It's extremely intricate, complex, and elaborate, with many layers. It had to have taken years of forethought and planning to put it together and run so perfectly for so long with still the vast majority of the world being none the wiser and not one person being able to prove the contrary.

    Exactly. This is Thriller2, MJ's big masterpiece. He is not some weak little dear that has lost every bit of control over his own life or 'death' for that matter. HE is in control. HE left the clues all those years, no one else. The theory that he was a drug addict that begged for meds and that he did not plan this all himself, doesn't hold ground for a minute.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • Clues dropped, fake court, and numerology

    I'm sorry but I cannot buy any of that... There is no real THERE there.

    If this thing went down like I am proposing as another theory...and
    he was whisked away...it could have been a quick plan to fix a big pickle
    he had gotten himself into.
    MJ knew a lot of people in all fields from medical to ...you name it....his name carried weight...big time.
    It is a fact his back was against the wall and he stood to lose everything.
    It would not take much to have a charted jet waiting and the airport...
    him leaving the hospital from an underground entrance or some such.
    unseen.
    And Wa'la he is out of the country and recuperating somewhere.

    It might have taken a little fudging on a few things...
    the questionable autopsy etc.
    But the majority of the "games" could have started after his death.
    There is a method to this maddness...and it has paid off big for him.
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    JMHO of course.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Clues dropped, fake court, and numerology

    I'm sorry but I cannot buy any of that... There is no real THERE there.

    Yah there is but suit yourself.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    RunFaYaLife wrote:

    Clues dropped, fake court, and numerology

    I'm sorry but I cannot buy any of that... There is no real THERE there.

    TS is offering money to the person who can demonstrate that the numerology coincidence
    TS wrote: $999 Reward!!!

    On the one year anniversary of 9-9-09, this is a very fitting time to offer this $999 reward. The reward will go to the first person who can show mathematically and statistically, that there is one chance in any number less than a million (1 chance in 999,999 or 1 chance in 500,000, etc), that all the MJ numerology listed in step 3 below happened by chance.
  • I'm sorry Paula-c but that is just a big so what to me....
    statically speaking mathematics's can be arguable anyway you look at it.

    Now I am not here to buck the traces and I look at life this way...anyone is free to do or believe what they want to...it is not my agenda to stop them. I'm leaving all of that stuff up to ya'll.

    I could be wrong but I assume people that post here are free to offer other theories or thoughts on the matter on this forum?
    If they are not just let me know and I will go away.
  • There is a HUGE difference in reporting the hoax in a ebook and being humble about it. There is a difference in what Geraldine did back when she wrote the book about Michael and the setup from Evan Chandler and what she is doing now in front of the court house screaming and holding court on the steps of the court house...

    I see this as a huge circus of people who think they are Michael's best buddies and high sighting. The people who were in TII with Michael helped him pull off the Greatest illusion of all time. They worked for their money. Attitude is everything. People's true colors are showing through now after his death. As far as I know there are very few of his friends who are NOT trying to profit. Knowledge of the NWO and all the other messages Michael has taught us should be free. Free knowledge and free minds. Doing God's work.

    Peace


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    this is probably off topic but isn't geraldeen hughes also usually somewhat involved with the jacksons. as i understand she is quite upset at having been told by someone , one of the brothers i think that they didn't want her reporting on the preliminary hearings. anyone have any info or insite into that? how is she different than pearl jr. in all of this? not being argumentative just wondering if anyone has more details to the difference between the two as far as the jacksons go.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I'm sorry Paula-c but that is just a big so what to me....
    statically speaking mathematics's can be arguable anyway you look at it.

    Now I am not here to buck the traces and I look at life this way...anyone is free to do or believe what they want to...it is not my agenda to stop them. I'm leaving all of that stuff up to ya'll.

    I could be wrong but I assume people that post here are free to offer other theories or thoughts on the matter on this forum?
    If they are not just let me know and I will go away.
    You can stay, no one said you had to leave, but if your comments don't make sense, you can expect critisism. And I am sorry to say but none of your theories make sense in any way.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • "The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
    in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
    'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes
    went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the
    other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out
    over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

    Looking at the above quote, I think it is interesting that the illusion has MJ disappear and then "suddenly appeared"!! Sounds like a planned BAM to me!
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    "The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
    in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
    'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes
    went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the
    other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out
    over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

    Looking at the above quote, I think it is interesting that the illusion has MJ disappear and then "suddenly appeared"!! Sounds like a planned BAM to me!

    When you think of it, it's not much different than what he always did on a show. Thriller, disappearing in a casket, reappearing to 'beat it'. It's just that it is taking a little longer this time before he reappears, lol.

    What is with that cherry picker by the way? I remember I found it odd that Kenny was so concerned in TII when MJ was on it. I mean look at the concerts, he was hanging over the edge and all so it was nothing new to him and just standing on it doesn't seem that dangerous to me.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Also odd:

    He was really looking forward to it. The night before,
    he had said to me he was very happy.

    He saw the dream coming to light on the stage.
    The only thing he wanted me to say to anybody creatively,
    dancers, creative team was, 'I love them.

    Everybody’s doing a great job.
    I love you, Kenny. I’ll see you tomorrow. Thank you.'"

    This was posted on TMZ: <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/jackson-d ... ast-night/<!-- m -->

    So if he showed up at 10PM, they went home late and they would see each other the next day. Why ask Kenny to tell the team he loved them? He could have done that himself. Unless of course he knew he wouldn't show up the next day.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    Also odd:

    He was really looking forward to it. The night before,
    he had said to me he was very happy.

    He saw the dream coming to light on the stage.
    The only thing he wanted me to say to anybody creatively,
    dancers, creative team was, 'I love them.

    Everybody’s doing a great job.
    I love you, Kenny. I’ll see you tomorrow. Thank you.'"

    This was posted on TMZ: <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/jackson-d ... ast-night/<!-- m -->

    So if he showed up at 10PM, they went home late and they would see each other the next day. Why ask Kenny to tell the team he loved them? He could have done that himself. Unless of course he knew he wouldn't show up the next day.

    He knew he wouldn't show up the next day and he wanted his "last" message to be of love. To remind everyone of what it's all about and who he really is.
  • You can stay, no one said you had to leave, but if your comments don't make sense, you can expect critisism. And I am sorry to say but none of your theories make sense in any way.

    Alrighty then....
    I can handle criticism ...they may not make sense to you and some others
    here who prefer to look at things from only one perspective.
    Which is fine.
    Clues dropped, fake court, and numerology

    From my perspective they do to me...
    and that is the only person I have to satisfy.
    Agree with me or not....I'm not selling anything.
    You did say you like debating Souza.

    The way I feel about it is why take something so simple and make it so overly complex?

    I do like to read everyone's take on the events....like I have said before..I'm open.
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  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    You can stay, no one said you had to leave, but if your comments don't make sense, you can expect critisism. And I am sorry to say but none of your theories make sense in any way.

    Alrighty then....
    I can handle criticism ...they may not make sense to you and some others
    here who prefer to look at things from only one perspective.
    Which is fine.
    Clues dropped, fake court, and numerology

    From my perspective they do to me...
    and that is the only person I have to satisfy.
    Agree with me or not....I'm not selling anything.
    You did say you like debating Souza.

    The way I feel about it is why take something so simple and make it so overly complex?

    I do like to read everyone's take on the events....like I have said before..I'm open.
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    I do like debating, but it takes 2 to tango and the opponent needs to come up with arguments that are worth discussing, otherwise it's just a waste of time and I am sorry to say that I don't see any use in debating with you because you seem to know it all so well.

    I'm not selling anything either and you don't have to agree with me for that matter. But you are wrong when you say we only see everything from one perspective. Some of us have been here since the start and have seen it from ALL perspectives, but we are 19 months ahead now and debunked a lot of things, so keep comments like that to yourself in the future.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • "The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
    in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
    'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes
    went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the
    other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out
    over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

    Looking at the above quote, I think it is interesting that the illusion has MJ disappear and then "suddenly appeared"!! Sounds like a planned BAM to me!

    When you think of it, it's not much different than what he always did on a show. Thriller, disappearing in a casket, reappearing to 'beat it'. It's just that it is taking a little longer this time before he reappears, lol.

    What is with that cherry picker by the way? I remember I found it odd that Kenny was so concerned in TII when MJ was on it. I mean look at the concerts, he was hanging over the edge and all so it was nothing new to him and just standing on it doesn't seem that dangerous to me.
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    after only watching it i need something to calm my nerves . can you imagine living it
  • I remember I found it odd that Kenny was so concerned in TII when MJ was on it. I mean look at the concerts, he was hanging over the edge and all so it was nothing new to him and just standing on it doesn't seem that dangerous to me.

    MY guess would be
    1] Kenny knew he had not been feeling well?
    2] The issue of that little 60 foot plunge he took in one
    during the Earth Song in 1999?

    This is how it was supposed to happen
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    This is what happened in Munich
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  • Some of us have been here since the start and have seen it from ALL perspectives, but we are 19 months ahead now and debunked a lot of

    I may not have been on THIS board but I have been on it for just as long.
  • GodhaschosenMJ wrote:
    "The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
    in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
    'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes
    went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the
    other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out
    over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

    Looking at the above quote, I think it is interesting that the illusion has MJ disappear and then "suddenly appeared"!! Sounds like a planned BAM to me!

    Absolutely! If you think about it- the Dirty Diana Illusion is very parallel to the Illusion we are seeing now:
    Michael disappeared "on a bed." - if you so will - on June 25th. As a matter of fact- he was supposedly moved to the ground during the 911 call and then, stubbornly, was STILL on the bed when the EMTs got there. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
    So, maybe we will see him appear on a different kind of stage... Which could of course mean any number of things: a real stage (Immortal), or a stage such as...hm..lets say a court hearing or something like that...
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    GodhaschosenMJ wrote:
    "The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
    in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
    'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes
    went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the
    other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out
    over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

    Looking at the above quote, I think it is interesting that the illusion has MJ disappear and then "suddenly appeared"!! Sounds like a planned BAM to me!

    Absolutely! If you think about it- the Dirty Diana Illusion is very parallel to the Illusion we are seeing now:
    Michael disappeared "on a bed." - if you so will - on June 25th. As a matter of fact- he was supposedly moved to the ground during the 911 call and then, stubbornly, was STILL on the bed when the EMTs got there. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
    So, maybe we will see him appear on a different kind of stage... Which could of course mean any number of things: a real stage (Immortal), or a stage such as...hm..lets say a court hearing or something like that...
    That 'stage' could be anywhere. 'All the world's a stage' remember?

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • SoldierofLOVE wrote:
    2. Why do you think TS is reminding us again about an illusion on the 25th? Don't we know that already?

    I meant to address this question yesterday. I feel the reason TS redirected to the video was to REMIND us that it is ALL an illusion. Over the last couple of weeks since the news of Eliza's case and the fact that Murray is actually going to court; reading the forum I have read people's confusion and fear (doubts).

    I see this redirect going hand in hand with the other encouragement redirects TS has been giving us. He is saying it is all ok. Keep the Faith. It is all an illusion including this court case, Michael is not dead don't forget that, <<<not now we are so close to the reappearance.


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    @Marlon_Jackson Marlon Jackson of J5
    its been a great year. thank you all for unconditional love and support for my entire family. 2011 will be peaceful & bring joy to us all
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    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 18:27&amp;version=NLT

    Luke 18:27 (New Living Translation)

    27 He replied, “What is impossible for people is possible with God.”
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    ~Souza~ wrote:
    PureLove wrote:
    Hmm Marlon wrote 2011 will be a peaceful year, so I think that means we are not going to have Michael back in 2011. Coz when he gets back, the world is going to be shaked up, everyone will be shocked. And we will begin with his command. So I don't think that it would be very peaceful when he gets back. 2012 can be the year for a comeback. But who knows...
    I disagree. There is more and more fighting in de world, which will get worse even more. If this year is gonna be peaceful, something needs to change first and the world needs a wake-up call. A call for revolution can be peaceful too. No joy without a change of tides. People will be shocked by his return, but that doesn't mean they get violent. They will be baffled and it needs to settle down and people will need some time to accept and take it in. I think a lot depends on the way he bams and what he will say or do. I have the feeling that he will return somewhere this year. I don't know why, it's just a gut feeling. 2012 is surely still a possibility, most likely if the trial needs to be played out, but somehow this year seems to be destined to be an interesting year.

    Besides that I think that 2012 will be too late, for the reason that I think TPTB will use the fear for the end of the world that year that people have, to take over complete control. We already see it starting with the birds falling out of the sky, the dead fish and what else, plus all the strange climate changes and natural disasters that follow each other up too quick lately. I think there is an evil agenda for 2012 and I think Mike knows more about it than some would have wanted him to know. Pretty much why I think he had to be taken down. So to make the people aware of what is happening, he should return this year. Just see how long it took most people on here to accept the reasons, it will take time for the general public to accept and digest as well. That is why I think 2012 is too late. But time will tell I guess. I'm sure he knows what he's doing.
    Encouragement...

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    ignisaeternus wrote:
    GodhaschosenMJ wrote:
    So did anyone notice that TS re-directed (Marlon's tweet about Peace and Joy in 2011) the day before we found out that the trial is actually going to be this year, not January 2012?
    I did. And when I read the tweet (at work; in a meeting, mind you) that the trail date was March 28. 2011, I let out a little, YES!
    I was stared at, but it was SO worth it!

    Reminding us of the trial date and Peace is on it's way soon. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • Yes, i'm_convinced, I agree. I wrote about my clarity and sense of peace and undying faith this morning, once I read today's redirect. It was a 'holy ghost' moment for me <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
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