Beverly Hills Hotel Meeting May 2009

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I came across this video of the Beverly Hills Hotel meeting in May 2009 and it reminded me of various things that don't add up. I noticed that Joe was looking very grim in the video - in contrast to the 26th June 2009


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This post on TMZ the day after the meeting was also strange

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Michael Jackson Will Be Sued Over Jackson 5
5/16/2009 10:19 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
We've learned there was a secret meeting yesterday at the Beverly Hills Hotel, where Michael Jackson made it clear -- he will not perform with Janet and the Jackson 5; and the dude who organized the concert tour tells us he will sue them.

As we first reported, Jacko's manager signed a deal on behalf of M.J. to perform with his sis and bros at Cowboy Stadium in Arlington, Texas in 2010. Part of the deal -- that he not sign any other concert deal for 18 months. But then Jacko went and signed up for his London concerts which are scheduled to begin in July.

The company that organized the family concert --- AllGood Entertainment -- got Michael, daddy Joe Jackson and several others in a room yesterday at the Bev Hills Hotel. Joe tried to convince Michael that the family tour should go on, but Michael wouldn't budge because it would have aired on pay-per-view and M.J. said he doesn't like pay-per-view! The meeting was heated and no one agreed to anything.

Patrick Allocco of AllGood Entertainment tells us he's going to sue Jackson and his family next week.

Stay tuned.

UPDATE: Patrick Allocco has resubmitted his offer for MJ to perform with the Jackson 5 and Janet without the pay-per-view. For this one night event, MJ would be paid $3million, Janet $1mil, and the brothers would get $500,000 to split.

Allocco is making this his last and final offer. If Jacko refuses, AllGood Entertainment will proceed with suing him and his family.

Please also see the following threads pertaining to this meeting - warning a lot of info.

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fordtocarr

It's incredible that the Beverly Hills hotel is just 1.7 mile from Carolwood! Just takes 4 min to get there. Probably even walk faster if go through neighborhoods and not through traffic.

Lovely One

Thanks for your research on this fin...
I have always believed that that meeting was to get together and go over the details of the hoax. Good catch about Joe's worried face that day....I guess worried that the whole thing wouldn't work. He sure looks more
relieved after June 25th when he is laughing and smiling with Jesse Jackson!

all4loveandbelieve

How ironic, he supposedly died June 2009. Would you think he faked his death so he wouldn't get sued for the concert he was suppose to sing with his sister and jackson 5? Just trying to figure out so many things.

Lovely One

Would it be safe to say then that if this meeting was about the hoax, then EVERYONE you see walking inside
with Michael, knows about the hoax. Anyone recognise any of these people besides the bodyquards and
Michael's mom and dad?? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->

Lovely One

How ironic, he supposedly died June 2009. Would you think he faked his death so he wouldn't get sued for the concert he was suppose to sing with his sister and jackson 5? Just trying to figure out so many things.

I remember this idea was brought up before and it is a good one. Yes, could be possible!

Heartbreaker

Thank you for your research <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> . This is very interesting. The 911 call on 25 June is also come from a telephone / cell phone from the Beverly Hills Hotel. Was it the day that they were planning <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

all4loveandbelieve

Look at Michael, does he look like a frail sick man? This was one month before the supposedly death. How is it in a month you look sick and frail? An old man you cannot recognize according to the paramedics. We know otherwise..

suspicious mind

Would it be safe to say then that if this meeting was about the hoax, then EVERYONE you see walking inside
with Michael, knows about the hoax. Anyone recognise any of these people besides the bodyquards and
Michael's mom and dad?? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->

i am pretty sure one of those people was randy phillips. anyone else see him or is that someone else?

VeryLittleSusie

Lip-reading Joe Jackson is such a damn difficult thing.... I wonder what is he talking about over that cell-phone... <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->

angelshadow

Would it be safe to say then that if this meeting was about the hoax, then EVERYONE you see walking inside
with Michael, knows about the hoax. Anyone recognise any of these people besides the bodyquards and
Michael's mom and dad?? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->

i am pretty sure one of those people was randy phillips. anyone else see him or is that someone else?

You're right, it's Randy Phillips.

@ finfin : Thanks for the interesting information about it, very good.Many Thanks!

fordtocarr

It's incredible that the Beverly Hills hotel is just 1.7 mile from Carolwood! Just takes 4 min to get there. Probably even walk faster if go through neighborhoods and not through traffic.

And Hayvenhurst is just 10 miles and 22 min from Michael. Both homes were big enough for all those people, why drive just minutes further..and have the paps follow (unless you WANT documentation of it)?
Plus, why'd the KIDS .. OR, his parents be at a business meeting? Neither are in business with him.

I'm also noticing, the VERY, VERY skinny legs at TII and the gaunt face that looked skeletal at TIMES, are NOT the Michael of this video just a month prior. His legs are normal size:)

Also, unless they were tipped off, how'd the paps KNOW to be there ?

all4loveandbelieve

It's incredible that the Beverly Hills hotel is just 1.7 mile from Carolwood! Just takes 4 min to get there. Probably even walk faster if go through neighborhoods and not through traffic.

And Hayvenhurst is just 10 miles and 22 min from Michael. Both homes were big enough for all those people, why drive just minutes further..and have the paps follow (unless you WANT documentation of it)?
Plus, why'd the KIDS .. OR, his parents be at a business meeting? Neither are in business with him.

I'm also noticing, the VERY, VERY skinny legs at TII and the gaunt face that looked skeletal at TIMES, are NOT the Michael of this video just a month prior. His legs are normal size:)

Also, unless they were tipped off, how'd the paps KNOW to be there ?

I heard once that Michael, sometimes wanted the paps there, he had ways to have them where ever he wanted them to be. He lives for controversy.. RIGHT??

fordtocarr

It's incredible that the Beverly Hills hotel is just 1.7 mile from Carolwood! Just takes 4 min to get there. Probably even walk faster if go through neighborhoods and not through traffic.

And Hayvenhurst is just 10 miles and 22 min from Michael. Both homes were big enough for all those people, why drive just minutes further..and have the paps follow (unless you WANT documentation of it)?
Plus, why'd the KIDS .. OR, his parents be at a business meeting? Neither are in business with him.

I'm also noticing, the VERY, VERY skinny legs at TII and the gaunt face that looked skeletal at TIMES, are NOT the Michael of this video just a month prior. His legs are normal size:)

Also, unless they were tipped off, how'd the paps KNOW to be there ?

I heard once that Michael, sometimes wanted the paps there, he had ways to have them where ever he wanted them to be. He lives for controversy.. RIGHT??

could be, could be Joe tipped them off. We see he keeps himself in view of them all the time!!

StrangerInCalifornia

It's incredible that the Beverly Hills hotel is just 1.7 mile from Carolwood! Just takes 4 min to get there. Probably even walk faster if go through neighborhoods and not through traffic.

And Hayvenhurst is just 10 miles and 22 min from Michael. Both homes were big enough for all those people, why drive just minutes further..and have the paps follow (unless you WANT documentation of it)?
Plus, why'd the KIDS .. OR, his parents be at a business meeting? Neither are in business with him.

I'm also noticing, the VERY, VERY skinny legs at TII and the gaunt face that looked skeletal at TIMES, are NOT the Michael of this video just a month prior. His legs are normal size:)

Also, unless they were tipped off, how'd the paps KNOW to be there ?

I heard once that Michael, sometimes wanted the paps there, he had ways to have them where ever he wanted them to be. He lives for controversy.. RIGHT??

could be, could be Joe tipped them off. We see he keeps himself in view of them all the time!!

Hahaha thats possible! Another possibilty would be that they were just hanging out in front of his house and followed him over there. Its about a 6-7 min drive including stop signs and slow driving people hogging up the two lane street.

StrangerInCalifornia

Ummm is Katherine wearing "the suit" again during this meeting?? Pause the video at 1.34

MJonmind

I'm beginning to think all the public appearance are specifically for PR and promoting the Michael Jackson image and hoax-related perception. But I believe that he had other ways of getting around that drew little attention, and was an adept at it--in disguise, just as now he can probably get around even while "dead". He's had over 40 years to perfect this. And the fans are just eating it up! He sure is healthy looking and beautiful!

nicksam

very nice information and video about michale jackson at beverly hills hotel.The guy who has captured the video must have worked very hard to captured the michael jackson images.

Vezulu

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suspicious mind

so is it possible that this body guard is preventing joe from being in the house? and who is the chick we see talking to joe at the door of the house? don't remember seeing her in the group walking up. did anyone else see her?

PeaceLoveHappiness

Michael is leaving Klein's office at the very beginning of that video, so I suspect the paps followed him to the hotel. After he left the hotel, he and the kids went to a toy store, and of course the paps were still following behind and photographed them in the store too.

I had initially thought that this meeting was about the concert with his siblings, but I don't know why Randy Philips would have been there. I had also thought that Leonard Rowe was at the meeting, but I don't see him. Of course, the video is focusing on Michael and the family, so maybe we just aren't seeing Leonard.

I also can't believe how many people (non-paps) swarm in to get a glimpse of Michael.

suspicious mind

you know i did see that one other guy that it seems like was on some of the tabloid media shows right after the 25th. big tall black man. but he is not leonerd or majestic. seems like he was at the funeral also , carrying a briefcase . ( don't know why one needs a brief case at a funeral, he pulled it out of his trunk when he was getting out of the car).