My summary of THIS IS IT

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  • JMseesMJJMseesMJ Posts: 48
    Tell me, what possible reason could he have for coming back ? 
    To pick up his life from where he left it, even perform on stage again ? 
    Or do you think he would come back just for explaining to the world in detail why he did this and how he pulled it all off ? The public would think that he finally went insane. No way Jose.
    I don't know how old you are (is 93 your y.o.b ?), but when you get older your emphasis shift, other things become more important to you. I would say even more so if you've had it all as a superstar and have given your all to others for such a long time. I think he also wanted to avoid that the world would see an ageing popstar, who 'needs' to perform until he literally can't move anymore.  
    Admittedly he could have just declared that he wants to become a filmmaker, songwriter, father or what ever from now on. As Kenny Ortega put it aptly when he said: "...death was unnecessary..." But hey, it's Michael Jackson, he is different than other guys, right !

    His message is clear. Incorporate more love into your daily life and become aware of the evil things that are going on in the world. We all became or are in the middle of becoming more alert to these things, the forums helped a great deal. 
    I don't think that a BAM would wake up more people and turn them into independent, critical thinkers. The majority likes to doze and swallow what's being presented, they follow the path of least resistance, instead of the yellow brick road, lol. ! Sad but fact.
    And should exposing criminal activity be one of the reasons he went into hiding, I am sure the FBI can handle the completion of any operation without him returning in the end.

    Aahhh, it must be wonderful to be finally able to do what you always wanted..... <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->     
       
  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    I've thought about the previous comment all along too. If he comes back to the public, what does he say, "Oh I hoaxed my death for such and such reasons (and used a dead mans body to do it??). I don't want you media/paps to hound me for reasons and I don't want to live in a glass house anymore. Just leave me alone so I can be a daddy and make may music and do movie."
    I think he'll be dogged even more than before this and need even MORE protection. He'll really be hounded like Princess Di. Plus, the wacko will turn into "liar"...I can't even think of the words they'll all say.
    I know there are clues, so either we are twisting things to fit a hoax or they are there...but, I can't see how he'll go on after doing this.
    It has become so mind boggling that I can't barely follow the topics and comments anymore.
    I just trust my gut feeling, without ANY clues from day one, that he's alive. I don't really NOW worry about they how and why's because that is messing up my joy in my present life. I still jump in topics, but...tend to brush them off now. Michael's plan will show itself in his time. All the speculating will not make any of us right or wrong or make it all happen any faster.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Aahhh, it must be wonderful to be finally able to do what you always wanted..... <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->     
       

    What is it that he always wanted? I don't get what you mean.
    Or maybe you mean that he's enjoying being dead and alive at the same time?
    This is somehow like being invisible with all the advantages that comes with it (when I was a child I wanted so much to be invisible! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> ) .

    This might be a world of fun for him, the ultimate prank that he could have ever played to the world. But what about the kids? Even if they might not be his biological ones - he must love them very much...what kind of a life is that when he can't be with them openly?

    On the other hand I admit you are right. He has nothing to come back for
    The public would think that he finally went insane.
    <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    yeah you are right....
    But this bothered him so much before? He was perceived as weird by a part of the public because of his unusual behaviour that narrow people can't understand but he did it willingly, to shock the world every time cause it's his nature of performer.

    You think he wants to be seen as sane now? Well, Michael, can't you see it ain't working?
    Who thought before you were insane still believes it, who saw your true nature didn't believe it before and won't start believe it now if you come back.
  • @Gina
    Peoples minds still work like 2000 years ago, don't you think ? The general public still thinks Michael is guilty, even if he was acquitted of all charges. Now they think CM must be guilty of killing Michael.
    I think we should trust in Michael, if he wants us to see the trial, it must be for a reason. Try to push away your sad and negative feelings and let's watch, maybe it is supposed to be an eye-opener and we can learn something from it....
    The truth shall prevail.

    JMseesMJ - thank you for your thorough, well thought out posts. Very interesting indeed.

    I agree with a poster above - you do sound very confident in your words, like one who has inside knowledge. I'm wondering how you know the deal with CM was for $150,000? If he is a real doctor that is not much compensation is it? Think about how long he's been on this adventure with the rest of us...and the tarnish to his own name (if it's a real name that is).

    I agree with you. Even if Dr Murray goes to jail it does not mean that Michael is dead. We still don't know the real reasons for any of this. The timing for everything in this hoax has been spot on - so it's no surprise that this falls around Easter. My personal hope is that regardless of the meaning, Michael find total vindication from all of the false allegations. And, I do believe we are seeing the tide turn in his favor although there is still plenty of work to do in that regard. Personally, I believe public acknowledgment from one of the accusers would be the one thing that would change the mindset in the most stubborn of people. I just don't think that will ever happen.

    I trust Michael whole heartedly and I will be here to the end. In the end I believe that truth will prevail and I believe we will find the truth. I do believe we will have an ending and I believe none of us are probably prepared for what Michael has planned. That's my personal opinion. It's an adventure, for sure, and my eyes have been opened to a whole world I never took much time to think about. I also think that Michael would not have planted all of these clues unless he intended on returning.

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It's very thought-provoking. Blessings.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    JM how you convinced me he has nothing to come back for? Of course he has and I think he will (IF he's alive).

    Now he's busy preparing the show-trial and once he will prove that Trial by the media applied to Murray just like it was applied to him in 1993 and 2005, he will come back!!
    He can't resist coming back to taste a bit of his own show <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> .

    At least i hope so
  • JMseesMJJMseesMJ Posts: 48
    I'm wondering how you know the deal with CM was for $150,000? If he is a real doctor that is not much compensation is it?

    It was $ 150,000 per month.... and I read it in a magazine <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->    









     
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    I'm wondering how you know the deal with CM was for $150,000? If he is a real doctor that is not much compensation is it?

    It was $ 150,000 per month.... and I read it in a magazine <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->    


    $ 50,000/month. I tend to think MJ won't be back otherwise his parents will not file wrongful death lawsuit against AEG.






     
  • NyukiNyuki Posts: 70
    Hello JMseesMJ

    From the beginning I always have been a firm believer that MJ hoaxed his Death because his life was in danger, but your post really hit me.

    You wrote about the life he lead up to June 2009 and that it didn’t match with what he envisioned for himself etc. Time cannot be reversed, and we all know how MJ thought about his childhood. You mentioned that the reason of the hoax might have been simply personal ones. So I started thinking, could it be that he came to the conclusion that his children can’t enjoy their childhood. As long as MJ was there, It was almost a mission impossible, they were hounded by the media, masks, no public schooling, no holidays, no slumber parties, etc. I think that this also didn’t match with what he had envisioned for his children.

    Is it for the LOVE of his children that he hoaxed his death, so they could step out of his shadow and so they get the change to make friends, to develop their own identities, go to a public school and other places and not only after closing times.
    As a devoted father he didn’t want to take away what he had missed, just a taste of some normal life at the most important time/phase of their lives (puberty). In the mean time I think MJ is making movies and is on the loose in public, maybe with a bald head, a beard, colored lenses and a pair of sneakers

    It reminds me of MJ’s own words “don’t forget the children” and the words of La Toya “family comes first”.

    So JmseesMJ when you talk about MJ maybe hoaxed his death for personal reasons, I think it is quite possible and I don’t think we can demand a bam or demand a presentation for the reason. Whatever the reason may be, who am I or we to judge? But what happens with Dr Murray without a BAM, don’t you think MJ has some explaining to do, to clear the man’s name.

    Bye bye Nyuki <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • Thank you JMseesMJ for all your posts. I must say that I agree with everything you say. If Michael doesn't come back, that is fine with me, as long as he is happy and living the life that he wants, that is enough for me.

    I agree that if Michael came back most people would still treat him badly and not believe him. Michael is too intelligent to even try and reach some of the hardened hearts out there.

    But if Michael does read this forum, I wish you so much love Michael, thank you for everything you have given your fans and I hope you can now relax, have fun and live your life with freedom; YOUR FANS WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • titaniatitania Posts: 160
    When I look at footage of some of the stuff MJ had to put up with in his everyday life I quite understand if he wants to live the life of an ordinary bloke. i mean dude couldn't show himself on a shopping spree or on a visit to the zoo without folks fainting and crying and going into emotional overdrive. How weird isn't this? I mean MJ must have wondered what on earth was going on! It is enough to send anyone round the bend, and he put up with it year in and year out since he was a tiny kid---- Think about it! Dude needs a rest...PRIVACY!

    And of course he would think about protecting his children and not subjecting them to this kind of weirdness...

    And he would probably like to get out gracefully, before he became an aged performer who got an applause for any little move he made... Makes me think of Greta Garbo who went into seclusion after her Hollywood careerin order to avoid facing cameras and being compared to how she looked when she was at the height of her career.

    So for my part I cannot see any reason for his coming back. He is out of the cage and can walk down the street without any old hoopla! It must feel fantastic! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> And he can still write songs, and scripts and be creative in so many ways seeing that he is trailing creativity in abundance! He has become The Man-finally!

    And since he has entertained us so royally for so long now is the time for us to entertain him!

    Bearing This Is It in mind I was inspired to write a little poem. Nota bene- when I say "I want you back" I mean I want MJ to be back in the form of a human being in the world of the living, not that he needs to step out of the shadows on to a stage again!!!

    Copyright 2010 All Rights Reserved
    By Titania James


    A Pair of Magic Slippers
    Hey You!
    Yes You,
    Michael Joseph Jackson!

    Why did you have to go
    And leave my world
    So dull and dark and cold?

    I want you back!

    Was it because we put a pair of wings upon your back
    And turned you into a superhuman fascination?
    Was it the tabloids stretching you on the rack
    Year in and year out of incessant character assassination?

    Here I stand
    I feel grand
    I am the light of the world run away!

    Yes, I want you back, Michael Joseph Jackson!

    But you can forget about the stranger in the orange pants-
    The tabloid junkie creation!
    You can forget about the glittery gold pants-
    sexy gyrations making dames swoon of all nations!
    I want the master and commander in the grey suit-
    The director in control of his creation-
    So cool-so smart -so human
    A perfectionist at work, such a TRUE man!

    I promise not to go bananas
    Over a guy in red silk pyjamas!
    I promise not to swoon
    And slobber all over your chest like a demented loon!
    Just accept a pair of magic slippers-
    Some TLC from me to you-
    A gift of LOVE from this Cinderella
    To her goofy Rockin fella!

    Titania
  • titaniatitania Posts: 160
    When I look at footage of some of the stuff MJ had to put up with in his everyday life I quite understand if he wants to live the life of an ordinary bloke. i mean dude couldn't show himself on a shopping spree or on a visit to the zoo without folks fainting and crying and going into emotional overdrive. How weird isn't this? I mean MJ must have wondered what on earth was going on! It is enough to send anyone round the bend, and he put up with it year in and year out since he was a tiny kid---- Think about it! Dude needs a rest...PRIVACY!

    And of course he would think about protecting his children and not subjecting them to this kind of weirdness...

    And he would probably like to get out gracefully, before he became an aged performer who got an applause for any little move he made... Makes me think of Greta Garbo who went into seclusion after her Hollywood careerin order to avoid facing cameras and being compared to how she looked when she was at the height of her career.

    So for my part I cannot see any reason for his coming back. He is out of the cage and can walk down the street without any old hoopla! It must feel fantastic! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> And he can still write songs, and scripts and be creative in so many ways seeing that he is trailing creativity in abundance! He has become The Man-finally!

    And since he has entertained us so royally for so long now is the time for us to entertain him!

    Bearing This Is It in mind I was inspired to write a little poem. Nota bene- when I say "I want you back" I mean I want MJ to be back in the form of a human being in the world of the living, not that he needs to step out of the shadows on to a stage again!!!

    Copyright 2010 All Rights Reserved
    By Titania


    A Pair of Magic Slippers
    Hey You!
    Yes You,
    Michael Joseph Jackson!

    Why did you have to go
    And leave my world
    So dull and dark and cold?

    I want you back!

    Was it because we put a pair of wings upon your back
    And turned you into a superhuman fascination?
    Was it the tabloids stretching you on the rack
    Year in and year out of incessant character assassination?

    Here I stand
    I feel grand
    I am the light of the world run away!

    Yes, I want you back, Michael Joseph Jackson!

    But you can forget about the stranger in the orange pants-
    The tabloid junkie creation!
    You can forget about the glittery gold pants-
    sexy gyrations making dames swoon of all nations!
    I want the master and commander in the grey suit-
    The director in control of his creation-
    So cool-so smart -so human
    A perfectionist at work, such a TRUE man!

    I promise not to go bananas
    Over a guy in red silk pyjamas!
    I promise not to swoon
    And slobber all over your chest like a demented loon!
    Just accept a pair of magic slippers-
    Some TLC from me to you-
    A gift of LOVE from this Cinderella
    To her goofy Rockin fella!

    Titania
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Playing dead to give the children a chance to a "normal" life?

    This turns upside down everything I thought I knew about the greatest entertainer of all times.

    Dear Michael, will you surround yourself in mystery forever <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> ?
  • Playing dead to give the children a chance to a "normal" life?

    This turns upside down everything I thought I knew about the greatest entertainer of all times.

    Dear Michael, will you surround yourself in mystery forever <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> ?

    In time we will know...we just have to be patient <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
  • titaniatitania Posts: 160
    When I look at footage of some of the stuff MJ had to put up with in his everyday life I quite understand if he wants to live the life of an ordinary bloke. i mean dude couldn't show himself on a shopping spree or on a visit to the zoo without folks fainting and crying and going into emotional overdrive. How weird isn't this? I mean MJ must have wondered what on earth was going on! It is enough to send anyone round the bend, and he put up with it year in and year out since he was a tiny kid---- Think about it! Dude needs a rest...PRIVACY!

    And of course he would think about protecting his children and not subjecting them to this kind of weirdness...

    And he would probably like to get out gracefully, before he became an aged performer who got an applause for any little move he made... Makes me think of Greta Garbo who went into seclusion after her Hollywood careerin order to avoid facing cameras and being compared to how she looked when she was at the height of her career.

    So for my part I cannot see any reason for his coming back. He is out of the cage and can walk down the street without any old hoopla! It must feel fantastic! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> And he can still write songs, and scripts and be creative in so many ways seeing that he is trailing creativity in abundance! He has become The Man-finally!

    And since he has entertained us so royally for so long now is the time for us to entertain him!

    Bearing This Is It in mind I was inspired to write a little poem. Nota bene- when I say "I want you back" I mean I want MJ to be back in the form of a human being in the world of the living, not that he needs to step out of the shadows on to a stage again!!!

    Copyright 2010 All Rights Reserved
    By Titania


    A Pair of Magic Slippers
    Hey You!
    Yes You,
    Michael Joseph Jackson!

    Why did you have to go
    And leave my world
    So dull and dark and cold?

    I want you back!

    Was it because we put a pair of wings upon your back
    And turned you into a superhuman fascination?
    Was it the tabloids stretching you on the rack
    Year in and year out of incessant character assassination?

    Here I stand
    I feel grand
    I am the light of the world run away!

    Yes, I want you back, Michael Joseph Jackson!

    But you can forget about the stranger in the orange pants-
    The tabloid junkie creation!
    You can forget about the glittery gold pants-
    sexy gyrations making dames swoon of all nations!
    I want the master and commander in the grey suit-
    The director in control of his creation-
    So cool-so smart -so human
    A perfectionist at work, such a TRUE man!

    I promise not to go bananas
    Over a guy in red silk pyjamas!
    I promise not to swoon
    And slobber all over your chest like a demented loon!
    Just accept a pair of magic slippers-
    Some TLC from me to you-
    A gift of LOVE from this Cinderella
    To her goofy Rockin fella!

    Titania
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Hi Titania

    What a strange poem.....I wish i could write poems in English but it's just too difficult for me.

    Anyway, Cinderella, I'm not sure I understand the message of your poem to Michael.
    What I think I understand is that you are over the goldpants disorder (good for you <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> ).

    Sorry for being so superficial sometimes, I can't constantly keep myself up to this hoax standards .
  • JMseesMJJMseesMJ Posts: 48
    @ Wannabe-Shakespeare aka Titania 

    Did you drink that magical flower juice ? It's supposed to bedew your eyelids, didn't you know that ?
    So when the effect has faded you can paste your poem for the fourth time, but please do it at the 'messages for Michael' section.
    On your way over beware of the creatures out there, you might meet Oberon.... <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    ....and work on your rhythm and rhyme scheme before you hit 'submit'. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->





     
  • titaniatitania Posts: 160
    Hi Titania

    What a strange poem.....I wish i could write poems in English but it's just too difficult for me.

    Anyway, Cinderella, I'm not sure I understand the message of your poem to Michael.
    What I think I understand is that you are over the goldpants disorder (good for you <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> ).

    Sorry for being so superficial sometimes, I can't constantly keep myself up to this hoax standards .


    My message in this poem is really that I am trying to make sense of tHIS iS IT! And that I see three different MJ's in it. That he was caught up in being sexy gold pants on stage and the strange media creation off stage. The MJ in the grey suit is the real one who wants to direct and make beautiful music and is an excellent business man. And then i combined that with seeling myself as Cinderella beacuse feel like that a lot of the time.

    Superficial? Oh, we all need to get off the Neverland hoax carousel fron time to time in order to maintain equilibrium. My poem is pretty superficial...But it takes a lot of hard work to appear as superficial as me... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    Thank you for the feedback- much appreciated!

    Titania
  • titaniatitania Posts: 160
    @ Wannabe-Shakespeare aka Titania 

    Did you drink that magical flower juice ? It's supposed to bedew your eyelids, didn't you know that ?
    So when the effect has faded you can paste your poem for the fourth time, but please do it at the 'messages for Michael' section.
    On your way over beware of the creatures out there, you might meet Oberon.... <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    ....and work on your rhythm and rhyme scheme before you hit 'submit'. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->





     


    Beware of mocking me, Sir Oberon! You know I am a temperamental fairy queen!

    And it is a shame that the magic potion ran down from my eyelids on to my lips! Puck the mischievous imp needs must improve his aim so as not to cause confusion in hoax land. Here i am Iforever searching for the delete button but alas, I try to edit and erase content and instead I end up with three times post instead! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->

    HELP ! i am indeed most sorry for the inconveniece, <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
    And I posted here since this poem is an effort to make head or tails of ThIS IIs It....But I will most humbly move to other section if this is thy desire...

    BTW DIid you know that Shakespeare was in fact not Shakeseare but Kit Marlowe in disguise? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    Titania
  • starchildstarchild Posts: 374
    So I started thinking, could it be that he came to the conclusion that his children can’t enjoy their childhood. As long as MJ was there, It was almost a mission impossible, they were hounded by the media, masks, no public schooling, no holidays, no slumber parties, etc. I think that this also didn’t match with what he had envisioned for his children.

    Is it for the LOVE of his children that he hoaxed his death, so they could step out of his shadow and so they get the change to make friends, to develop their own identities, go to a public school and other places and not only after closing times.
    As a devoted father he didn’t want to take away what he had missed, just a taste of some normal life at the most important time/phase of their lives (puberty).
    I'd thought of this too. It's something that often seems overlooked, but it is a very logical and justifiable reason for MJ to hoax his death. Still, and in light of everything discussed on this forum, consideration of his children is presumably only part of the reason for the hoax.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    @ Wannabe-Shakespeare aka Titania 

    Did you drink that magical flower juice ? It's supposed to bedew your eyelids, didn't you know that ?
    So when the effect has faded you can paste your poem for the fourth time, but please do it at the 'messages for Michael' section.
    On your way over beware of the creatures out there, you might meet Oberon.... <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    ....and work on your rhythm and rhyme scheme before you hit 'submit'. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->


    Beware of mocking me, Sir Oberon! You know I am a temperamental fairy queen!

    And it is a shame that the magic potion ran down from my eyelids on to my lips! Puck the mischievous imp needs must improve his aim so as not to cause confusion in hoax land. Here i am Iforever searching for the delete button but alas, I try to edit and erase content and instead I end up with three times post instead! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->

    HELP ! i am indeed most sorry for the inconveniece, <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
    And I posted here since this poem is an effort to make head or tails of ThIS IIs It....But I will most humbly move to other section if this is thy desire...

    BTW DIid you know that Shakespeare was in fact not Shakeseare but Kit Marlowe in disguise? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    Titania

    You guys are funny funny funny <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->

    OK, and I really mean it, which one of you is Puck <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> ?
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    As there's no way of learning the truth about who's who, I will just make sure to say hello to Cinderella, Oberon, the fairy queen, Shakespeare and last but not least - to the puppet master Puck <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
    Did I miss someone?

    Oh, Michael, to you too <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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