The DVD from Pearl jr. Alive...have you seen...the old gate

underthemoonunderthemoon Posts: 418
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
Hello,
i watched the DVD " Alive " and i <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> what i have seen...

Around 3:00 there are coming pics from the entrace ot the 100th Carolwood Drive. The gate from Michaels last residence in Holmby Hills.
This residence has in the past a different gate, this one :

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When Michael lives there ( if he does), there was a close gate ...you can't see through...i miss the word.

At the 25. June 2009 we all see this gate with the christmas wreath's :
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Pearl jr. has the same christmas wreath's, but they are hanging at the older gate.

How odd is that ????

Please if anyone has the DVD, please watch it too !

In January 2009 there was the new gate with the wreath's....when does Pearl make her pics ????
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  • angranityangranity Posts: 339
    Thank you for posting this, I find it very interesting. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
  • mattiemattie Posts: 296
    I am not good in English..But i try.
    Doesnt the gate is in two parts?
    The back is a seperate part..and can be removed?
    Or the back is open and the rest of the gate stil closed.
    I hope you know what i mean <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    Mattie
  • I am not good in English..But i try.
    Doesnt the gate is in two parts?
    The back is a seperate part..and can be removed?
    Or the back is open and the rest of the gate stil closed.
    I hope you know what i mean <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    Mattie

    Hello Mattie,
    i don't think so and you don't put so big wreath's on both gates.

    When i make a pic from the TV where you see it....how i get in here in ??????????????

    When you look at the gates...the metall construction is the same, but they put metall behind it to make it impossible to look in the garden, at the house.
  • Thank you for sharing this with us. There were two entrances to the residence. Could this be the other entrance? I'll check out the video. Blessings <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • I am not good in English..But i try.
    Doesnt the gate is in two parts?
    The back is a seperate part..and can be removed?
    Or the back is open and the rest of the gate stil closed.
    I hope you know what i mean <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    Mattie


    This is what I think also. The scroll design on both gates look the same on both pics, so I tend to think it is a double door. It's almost like how doors on houses sometimes have a screen door....you can either close both for privacy or only close the screen.
  • DancerDancer Posts: 1,225
    When i make a pic from the TV where you see it....how i get in here in ??????????????
    Since underthemoon is a user from Germany, I'll answer that question in german. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Ist ganz einfach: Lade das Bild bei einer entsprechenden Seite wie imageshack.us hoch. (Du kannst dort optional bei "Größe verändern" die Option "Message boards" wählen, dann wird es nicht zu riesig.)
    Mache dann einen Rechtsklick auf das Bild und wähle "Graphik anzeigen", dann wirst Du das Bild ohne das imageshack-Drumherum sehen. Nun mache wieder einen Rechtsklick und wähle "Graphikadresse kopieren".
    Hier im Anwortfeld klickst Du auf den Button "Img" da oben und fügst den zuvor kopierten Link (die Graphikadresse also) zwischen den Klammern ein.
    In der Vorschau ("Preview") kannst Du sehen, ob es geklappt hat, bevor Du dann auf "Submit" klickst und somit den Beitrag einstellst.
    Ich hoffe, ich habe nichts vergessen. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • I have heard that there were 2 entrances in Michael's house. Thank you for posting this. This is something that we should look in to.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    Hello,

    Yes dear, we knew that Carolwood has 2 entrances, 2 gates and perhaps they are different.
    Is there anything on Pearl's video related to that 2nd gate?
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    I have heard that there were 2 entrances in Michael's house. Thank you for posting this. This is something that we should look in to.

    Agreed.
  • <!-- m -->http://img857.imageshack.us/i/004et.jpg/<!-- m -->

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    Hello,
    i am so sorry that i need time....i can't handle the DVD player and had to ask a friend... <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->

    So i have made some pics and THANKS DANCER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i could put it in the forum.

    So far as i see ...this is the same gate where the ambulance came out, but the gate had not the green gate behind to make it private.
    There is only the gate, not the green behind or next. No guide rail to see where the untransparent gate could get behind the gate.

    So it looks like this pic was made before January 2009 when the untransparent green gate wasn't there.

    I hope the link works....i am so exited, because it's the first time i do something like that....yeah.... <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    http://img857.imageshack.us/i/004et.jpg/

    <!-- m -->http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/1695/005bv.jpg<!-- m -->

    There is only the gate, not the green behind or next. No guide rail to see where the untransparent gate could get behind the gate.
    So it looks like this pic was made before January 2009 when the untransparent green gate wasn't there.

    There is 1 gate and it is not blocked? Could Pearl possibly confuse Michael's house? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    What if Michael rented next house right before June 25 and hocpise patient was taken from that house that has different gate type? There are houses in CA that built by the same landlord and have the same address as the main house does with addition of A or/1, or without change at all. For example with 100 Carolwood Dr., next house (or smaller guest house) built later and is listed as 100/1 or A Carolwood or just 100 Carolwood and paramedics were taken to the that house and did not even realize that
    .
  • http://img857.imageshack.us/i/004et.jpg/

    <!-- m -->http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/1695/005bv.jpg<!-- m -->

    There is only the gate, not the green behind or next. No guide rail to see where the untransparent gate could get behind the gate.
    So it looks like this pic was made before January 2009 when the untransparent green gate wasn't there.

    There is 1 gate and it is not blocked? Could Pearl possibly confuse Michael's house? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    What if Michael rented next house right before June 25 and hocpise patient was taken from that house that has different gate type? There are houses in CA that built by the same landlord and have the same address as the main house does with addition of A or/1, or without change at all. For example with 100 Carolwood Dr., next house (or smaller guest house) built later and is listed as 100/1 or A Carolwood or just 100 Carolwood and paramedics were taken to the that house and did not even realize that
    .

    Great thought Scorpionchik - is there any way for you to go in person and investigate that or do you know someone close by that can? It's an interesting and plausible explanation.
  • When i make a pic from the TV where you see it....how i get in here in ??????????????
    Since underthemoon is a user from Germany, I'll answer that question in german. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Ist ganz einfach: Lade das Bild bei einer entsprechenden Seite wie imageshack.us hoch. (Du kannst dort optional bei "Größe verändern" die Option "Message boards" wählen, dann wird es nicht zu riesig.)
    Mache dann einen Rechtsklick auf das Bild und wähle "Graphik anzeigen", dann wirst Du das Bild ohne das imageshack-Drumherum sehen. Nun mache wieder einen Rechtsklick und wähle "Graphikadresse kopieren".
    Hier im Anwortfeld klickst Du auf den Button "Img" da oben und fügst den zuvor kopierten Link (die Graphikadresse also) zwischen den Klammern ein.
    In der Vorschau ("Preview") kannst Du sehen, ob es geklappt hat, bevor Du dann auf "Submit" klickst und somit den Beitrag einstellst.
    Ich hoffe, ich habe nichts vergessen. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Thank you, Dancer <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Maybe you could communicate my comment to underthemoon if she doesn't understand? Blessings!

    underthemoon - no worries. I wouldn't be able to communicate to you in German but the fact that you are trying to communicate (and doing very well) in English is quite amazing. Keep up the good work. It's great to have you with us. Blessings <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • Thank you !!! <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    http://img857.imageshack.us/i/004et.jpg/

    <!-- m -->http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/1695/005bv.jpg<!-- m -->

    There is only the gate, not the green behind or next. No guide rail to see where the untransparent gate could get behind the gate.
    So it looks like this pic was made before January 2009 when the untransparent green gate wasn't there.

    There is 1 gate and it is not blocked? Could Pearl possibly confuse Michael's house? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    What if Michael rented next house right before June 25 and hocpise patient was taken from that house that has different gate type? There are houses in CA that built by the same landlord and have the same address as the main house does with addition of A or/1, or without change at all. For example with 100 Carolwood Dr., next house (or smaller guest house) built later and is listed as 100/1 or A Carolwood or just 100 Carolwood and paramedics were taken to the that house and did not even realize that
    .

    Great thought Scorpionchik - is there any way for you to go in person and investigate that or do you know someone close by that can? It's an interesting and plausible explanation.

    thanks voiceforthesilent. I definitely can go there and investigate. It is not that long drive from Glendale, but for Michael and members it is worth; I have no one around that area to ask. Once I go, I will post photos. What else should I check? Ambulance wheels' mark perhaps. Imagine if I come across Michael, I will get heart attack. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • http://img857.imageshack.us/i/004et.jpg/

    <!-- m -->http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/1695/005bv.jpg<!-- m -->

    There is only the gate, not the green behind or next. No guide rail to see where the untransparent gate could get behind the gate.
    So it looks like this pic was made before January 2009 when the untransparent green gate wasn't there.

    There is 1 gate and it is not blocked? Could Pearl possibly confuse Michael's house? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    What if Michael rented next house right before June 25 and hocpise patient was taken from that house that has different gate type? There are houses in CA that built by the same landlord and have the same address as the main house does with addition of A or/1, or without change at all. For example with 100 Carolwood Dr., next house (or smaller guest house) built later and is listed as 100/1 or A Carolwood or just 100 Carolwood and paramedics were taken to the that house and did not even realize that
    .

    Great thought Scorpionchik - is there any way for you to go in person and investigate that or do you know someone close by that can? It's an interesting and plausible explanation.

    thanks voiceforthesilent. I definitely can go there and investigate. It is not that long drive from Glendale, but for Michael and members it is worth; I have no one around that area to ask. Once I go, I will post photos. What else should I check? Ambulance wheels' mark perhaps. Imagine if I come across Michael, I will get heart attack. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->


    Imagine you will see Michael in the house? That would be nice. Actually I hope you do. Maybe he is hiding in that house who knows. Blessings
  • http://img857.imageshack.us/i/004et.jpg/

    <!-- m -->http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/1695/005bv.jpg<!-- m -->

    There is only the gate, not the green behind or next. No guide rail to see where the untransparent gate could get behind the gate.
    So it looks like this pic was made before January 2009 when the untransparent green gate wasn't there.

    There is 1 gate and it is not blocked? Could Pearl possibly confuse Michael's house? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    What if Michael rented next house right before June 25 and hocpise patient was taken from that house that has different gate type? There are houses in CA that built by the same landlord and have the same address as the main house does with addition of A or/1, or without change at all. For example with 100 Carolwood Dr., next house (or smaller guest house) built later and is listed as 100/1 or A Carolwood or just 100 Carolwood and paramedics were taken to the that house and did not even realize that
    .

    Great thought Scorpionchik - is there any way for you to go in person and investigate that or do you know someone close by that can? It's an interesting and plausible explanation.

    thanks voiceforthesilent. I definitely can go there and investigate. It is not that long drive from Glendale, but for Michael and members it is worth; I have no one around that area to ask. Once I go, I will post photos. What else should I check? Ambulance wheels' mark perhaps. Imagine if I come across Michael, I will get heart attack. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    LOL - if you see Michael drag him home and put him on chat with us. Tell him you have a few thousand of his supporters who would like a word with him <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> lovingly, of course.

    Back to reality - can you show up on a Thursday to see if that is really trash day? If it's really trash day on Thursday's see how the garbage cans are lined up.

    That's all I have. Thank you for the offer to go there. Oh - do you know where LaToya lived? She had said that on June 25th Joe called her to get to the house because she lived close by. I'd like to know just how close together they really lived. Maybe he hid out at her house...?
  • I have heard that there were 2 entrances in Michael's house. Thank you for posting this. This is something that we should look in to.

    So one is the front gate and is the other the side gate (garage)?
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    Looks like there was black metal sheets added to the original gate for privacy. This is very common when celebreties move into a house, anywhere in the world. I found it interesting that a small fire was reported in Carolwood Dve that morning, and that's why there was a firetruck there already.

    Also, there has been talk about a smaller apartment on the premises....where the bodyguards lived. There must be 2 entrances for safety reasons.........also, someone has added 100 1/2 Carolwood Dve to the footpath....and spray painted MJs pictures there...
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    I think this is the other entrance, from behind N Carolwood dve...the external decor looks similar...you can search it via google maps......

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  • thanks voiceforthesilent. I definitely can go there and investigate. It is not that long drive from Glendale, but for Michael and members it is worth; I have no one around that area to ask. Once I go, I will post photos. What else should I check? Ambulance wheels' mark perhaps. Imagine if I come across Michael, I will get heart attack. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    Wow scorpionschik, you can go there ?????? I wish i could see all that places.....
    I look forward to see your pics ! Mostly we knwe the gate with the green sheets. If there are the sheets, please have a look if you can see if they are separated and if it's possible to close only the one gate.
    Thank you so so much for your help !!!
    Blessings !
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    I think this is the other entrance, from behind N Carolwood dve...the external decor looks similar...you can search it via google maps......

    <!-- m -->http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sugex ... a=N&tab=wl<!-- m -->

    If that is really the other side entrance of the house, then ambulance could not drive out from that gate, it is too short. Therefore ambulance was backing up instead.
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    That is so cool that you could see that famous place!
    In that video that was posted, the OV guy said Michael had put up black canvas behind the gate for privacy. Also I noticed that the camera panned across the street and there were 2 red cars, one parked. Is that the same type of car as was on JUne 25?
    Maybe when you go there you could check if that red car is still there. And I wonder who lives in the house now, and in Elvis' old house down the road. I guess that's not important. This video pic was from Jan. 30, 2009.
    Jan3009.jpg?t=1302681564
  • When the men in the video say that the canvas behind the gate was made for Michael's privacy, means that this was made long before June....we see the video from January, March....only with that dark background, not one time without, like it was in the past.
    Importend is if the dark gate was fixed at the gate or are both seperate and you can use only the first and if nesessary both for privacy ?
    Fact is that it is the same entrance like we knew from the ambulance video.
    If there are the wreath's, but not the dark background / canvas... can only mean that the pics where taken in 2008 <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    This is an aerial shot taken after the 25th June 2009. You can see both entrances, and a seperate long driveway with an entrance.......and a black SUV....hmmm. Easy get away.
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