JUST BACK FROM 100 N. CAROLWOOD DR.w/pictures

scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
Hello investigators. Just got back from Carolwood dr. I haveabout 12 pictures, will download later. YOu know takes time. YOU CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT I HAVE MISSED.... STUPID ME...71 AMBULANCE SLOWLY DRIVING THERE,THAT WAS ABOUT 7 pm. THEY DROVE RIGHT TOWARDS ME AFTER I GOT THERE, BUT BECAUSE I WAS CONCETRATED TO FIND PARKING, THEY PASSED BY ME AND DROVE AWAY.
WHAT I NOTICED THOUGH is # E 71 ON THE FRONT OF THE AMB. DO WE HAVE AMB. FRONT PHOTO WITH E 71? BACK AND SIDE OF THE AMB. HAD JUST 71.
NEXT, MY IMPRESSION/OPINION ONLY, MICHAEL COULD NOT LIVE OVER THERE. BIZZARE ROAD. CAROLWOOD DR. CROSSES WITH MONOVALE DRIVE THAT HAS A LOT OF CLOSE EACH OTHER HOUSES, A LOT OF CARS PARKED ON THE ROAD. MY IMPRESSION, MICHAEL WOULD NOT LIVE N THAT CROWDY AREA. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF IS IN ELITE AREA, CLOSE TO BEVERLY HILLS AND BEL AIR, BUT THAT ROAD CROSSES WITH ANOTHER BIZZARE ROAD FULL OF PEOPLE, NO WAY TO LIVE FOR KING OF POP WITH KIDS. UNLESS HE REALLY WAS SO BROKE, THAT HE COULD NOT AFFORD ANOTHER ELITE DRIVE AROUND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD (FOR EXAMPLE LEXINGTON DRIVE WAS AROUND, I DROVE & THAT WAS MUCH MORE PRIVATE AND ELITE AREA SUTABLE FOR MICHAEL). YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
NEXT, I SAW THE "HOLLYWOOD TOUR" TRUCK. I WAS THERE LONG ENOUGH TO TAKE THEIR PICTURE.
ABOUT TRASH CANS ON THE PICTURES & VIDEO WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR; THE CAROLWOOD DR. IS VERY CLOSE TO MAIN STREET, SUNSET BLVD, AND TOO NARROW TO PUT THAT MANY TRASH CANS ON THE ROAD, THAT WOULD BLOCK THE VEHICLES' WAY THAT DRIVE IN FROM SUNSET BLVD. NO WAY TO PUT TRASH CANS ON THAT WAY. I HAVE BEEN THERE ABOUT 20 min. TAKING PICTURES & OBSERVING AREA, SO MANY VEHICLES DROVE IN & OUT, I THOUGHT I AM ON THE BLVD, TOO BUSY TRUFFIC OVER THERE.
ABOUT GATE- THERE IS NO WAY FOR GATES TO BE TRANSPARENT IN ONE PICTURE, THEN BLOCKED IN ANOTHER ONE WE HAVE SEEN. I TOOK CLOSE PICTURE OF GATES, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I MEAN. THAT GATE IS DEASIGNED ONLY 1 WAY, TO BE BLOCKED.
NEXT VERY WEIRD FACT THAT I THINK OF IS THE AMBULANCE VIDEO WE HAVE SEEN SHOWS OTHER VEHICLES: TOUR BUS, BEN'S CAR, OTHER CARS ON THE ROAD THAT DAY, THERE IS NO WAY ON THAT NARROW ROAD COULD THOSE MANY CARS FIT ALONG W 2 AMBULANCE, BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC, WE DON'T SEE ON THE VIDEO ANY OTHER VEHICLES TRYING DRIVE IN OR OUT THE CAROLWOOD ROAD YOU CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT A HUGE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD CREATE ON SUNSET BLVD, WHICH IS VERY BUSY BLVD AND DON'T HAVE PULL OVER AREAS. YOU HAVE TO KEEP DRIVING. THAT'S ANOTHER INTERESTING THOUGHT I GOT.
So, far that's all I remember for now. check back for pictures. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATIONS, PLEASE ASK.
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  • scorpionchik thank you for your time you put into this. Wow you have guts. My friend went to Hollywood last year and she took the tour bus, she told me that the street was narrow, and she did not understand how so many people were around the house the day he died. Only the fire truck would have taken half of the street she said. Maybe he did not stay at that house. He also had a house in Vegas right? So maybe that was his residence, and carolwood drive was just a bate, I honestly thing it was not Michael on June 25/2009. I can't wait to see pictures. Thank you again for all your time and help. God bless.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    scorpionchik thank you for your time you put into this. Wow you have guts. My friend went to Hollywood last year and she took the tour bus, she told me that the street was narrow, and she did not understand how so many people were around the house the day he died. Only the fire truck would have taken half of the street she said. Maybe he did not stay at that house. He also had a house in Vegas right? So maybe that was his residence, and carolwood drive was just a bate, I honestly thing it was not Michael on June 25/2009. I can't wait to see pictures. Thank you again for all your time and help. God bless.

    you are welcome all4loveandbelieve. She is right. That's what I too have observed today.
  • scorpionchik thank you for your time you put into this. Wow you have guts. My friend went to Hollywood last year and she took the tour bus, she told me that the street was narrow, and she did not understand how so many people were around the house the day he died. Only the fire truck would have taken half of the street she said. Maybe he did not stay at that house. He also had a house in Vegas right? So maybe that was his residence, and carolwood drive was just a bate, I honestly thing it was not Michael on June 25/2009. I can't wait to see pictures. Thank you again for all your time and help. God bless.

    you are welcome all4loveandbelieve. She is right. That's what I too have observed today.


    So I am wondering, how did the fire truck, the ambulances, the red car the tour bus fitted in that narrow street? Too bad I don't live in hollywood, I would love to see it for myself. I commend you for the good job you have done scorpionchik can't wait to see the pictures so we can get an idea.
  • Lovely OneLovely One Posts: 430
    Can't wait to see your pictures! Thanks for taking the time to check this out! We may learn something
    new today!!! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    wow this is very interesting. The pics please, when you have time.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    YOU CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT I HAVE MISSED.... STUPID ME...71 AMBULANCE SLOWLY DRIVING THERE,THAT WAS ABOUT 7 pm. THEY DROVE RIGHT TOWARDS ME AFTER I GOT THERE, BUT BECAUSE I WAS CONCETRATED TO FIND PARKING, THEY PASSED BY ME AND DROVE AWAY.

    this is crazy...they passed by you and you missed them ahhhhhhh, what a bad-luck.....but did it look like in the pics THAT day...or the other day?
  • Was there any car parked in the garage?
    How many gates were there, only 2 or more?

    Because I remember when I went there about a month and a half ago there was a car parked in the garage (side gate)...I went at like 9pm and it was so pitch black I couldn't see anything but there was a light on in the Carolwood house. Then I came back the next day and saw the ambulance #71 with the sirens on and then 20 min later it was parked back at the firehouse.

    Like you said the roads are narrow and it is very open...it crosses between two roads...compared to Elvis' house which is more private.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    I could download only 3, I have to resize the rest.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    YOU CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT I HAVE MISSED.... STUPID ME...71 AMBULANCE SLOWLY DRIVING THERE,THAT WAS ABOUT 7 pm. THEY DROVE RIGHT TOWARDS ME AFTER I GOT THERE, BUT BECAUSE I WAS CONCETRATED TO FIND PARKING, THEY PASSED BY ME AND DROVE AWAY.

    this is crazy...they passed by you and you missed them ahhhhhhh, what a bad-luck.....but did it look like in the pics THAT day...or the other day?

    yes Gina, it looked the same amb. but with E71 on the front. Do we have a front picture of ambulance at all?
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    Close picture of the gate for design comparison
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    Back side of the house and lot's vehicles around, BTW, the # 100 is the first and last house at the beginning of Carolwood,as I said close to Sunset, then Carolwood continues but that house has no adjacent houses on the left, nor right, nor in the front.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    I took picture of the road, so you can see how narrow it is. Anyone can get explanation how 7-8- large trash cans, those many vehicles and people could fit on this narrow road. The house is on the left side.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    On the one pic. you can see vehicle turns to carolwood dr. how close the house to the Sunset Blv., the house is in the left. Anothe pic. showes that Carolwood dr. ends along with house and crosses to Monovale and you can see residents' vehicles. Very crowdy road. I mean, hard to believe Michael would rent house over there.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    Monovale st that crosses w/Carolwood, see how many vehicles there. Pic. # 103, do you recognize the edge where trash cans were put? NO WAY they can be there and ambulances or other vehicles could drove to Carolwood dr., especially approach to the house. TRASH CANS WOULD DEFINITELY BLOCK THE WAY.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    Again down road of the Monovale rd. See vehicles, all those are residents'. On the right side, the back of the house. Right there I met ambulance 71, there were no place to park. Finally I found one place, but missed amb. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
    It's ok, guys, I am gonna go there again. So, the tour, I guess is a common routine of that area. I don't know why tour brings guests to residential area though. It is weird. Maybe Michael knew that too. There is no way, MJ would live in the area where tours usually come and go. I really got better idea of this whole thing.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    FInal pic. again house. Do you see the crack on asphalt, so that the size of the one way to go up by Carolwood dr., the other same size of the foad is for opposit traffic. Really narrow. After Neverland, that is NOT the place for Michael to live.
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  • MashMikeMashMike Posts: 1,312
    Scorpionchik, thank u so much for the pics and for the info, agree,the road is too narrow, there is no way so many cars could be there at the same time the day MJ "died"
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    Was there any car parked in the garage?
    How many gates were there, only 2 or more?

    Because I remember when I went there about a month and a half ago there was a car parked in the garage (side gate)...I went at like 9pm and it was so pitch black I couldn't see anything but there was a light on in the Carolwood house. Then I came back the next day and saw the ambulance #71 with the sirens on and then 20 min later it was parked back at the firehouse.

    Like you said the roads are narrow and it is very open...it crosses between two roads...compared to Elvis' house which is more private.

    Only 2 gates, those we have seen. Yes, that car still there, you ca see on the photo. Oh, I forgot about Elvis house. Where is his house , on Carolwood as well? What I recall from the LMP interview w/Oprah, when they show Elvis house, then Michael's, was pretty close. But if it was on Carolwood dr., there is no way that house close to MJ's because there is no house next to house # 100, only back side has if you remember.
    It is weird that you also saw ambulance 71. Is that ambulance has nothing to do but drive around that area? THEN WHY THEY NEEDED TO CALL 911, THEY COULD JUST GET OUT OF HOUSE AND WAIVE AMBULANCE & IT WOULD BE RIGHT THERE . IT SHOULD NOT TAKE EVEN 1 MIN. AND THEY COULD SAVE MICHAEL, OF COURSE IF HE WAS DYING. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    Scorpionchik, thank u so much for the pics and for the info, agree,the road is too narrow, there is no way so many cars could be there at the same time the day MJ "died"

    Your are welcome, my dear.
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    Thanks for that information.....Elvis Presley's old home is at 144 Monovale Dve...

    I too have many pictures from google saved to my computer...these are it:
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    At least the light on the right is working now....It wasn't working on the 25th June.
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    This is from a google search and others have added some other photos to it....
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    you are welcome 2good2btrue. I will go one more time and see where the Elvis' house is.
    I don't understand how the gate can get transparent. YOu see the close picture of the gate, it looks impossible to remove that blocking sheet or whatever it is. At least from outside it looks impossible to detach.
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    you are welcome 2good2btrue. I will go one more time and see where the Elvis' house is.
    I don't understand how the gate can get transparent. YOu see the close picture of the gate, it looks impossible to remove that blocking sheet or whatever it is. At least from outside it looks impossible to detach.

    It was added when Mj (supposedly moved in) and it's just temporary black PVC backing material...that adds as a blackout to allow for more privacy.

    What gets me is the monovale dve entrance, that is an underground carpark. It takes you to the other side of the house, where the foyer is. And yes, it looks so much smaller than the original video........

    Scorpianchik, thanks for your hard work..I have to rely on Dr Google <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    I will post a video of a person in the Starline tour bus....for comparison...

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  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    Thank you scorpionchik! These pics are really great, and much appreciated!
    A couple of things that I have to question:
    I totally see your point about the trash cans. After seeing the streets and comparing them, I would think the other gate entrance is more of the utility/day-to-day gate. It does not lead to the front door. I would think that gate is the gate (Monovale) used for trash. Anyone been there on trash day? It seems as though folks are there...caretakers or whatever. Also, time of day is still a big factor for me. I have always felt the shadows were off throughout everything. What time of day were some of these pics taken? One more thought....the other thing I always thought odd, there were no police that day. Surely, they (911 and crew) know that area and know the streets are small. An emergency of this sort would surely need police to help guide/stop traffic. The Hollywood tour companies knew that was MJ's house. If I worked at the 911 call center, I'd keep a list of celebrity addresses. I'd be prepared to know that area very well. I don't buy that they didn't know it was MJ's house....really?
    OK....back to my somewhat cold coffee.....might go for tea instead! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    Thanks again for the pictures....very sweet of you!
    Blessings Always!
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