<!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> MAYBE I AM CONFUSED YET AGAIN BUT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHO STUDY IS THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR ENOUGH IS THAT NOT THE POINT OR DO I NEED TO RETURN TO MY CELL AND NEVER BE SEEN AGAIN <!-- s --><!-- s --> HI STUDY I KIND OF GET YOU <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
....because thats all that everyone is worried about. Michael is telling his story and yet most people dont want to hear it because all they want is an exact date and location where is going to be and not care why he did this. here are some comments i have seen:
"...why do i did to show my love online? can't he feel my love already"
umm maybe he cant feel the love because he is telling us something very important and damn near life threating and yet a majority is not listening.When someone you love wants to tell you something dont you listen?He has actually beening telling us all of this for a long time and now that he is using the internet and other userful sources and/or people everone wants to dismiss that and jump beyond the most important part of this whole hoax. I wouldnt feel loved in no1 cared what i indured for 40 year or i wouldnt feel loved if no1 cared that i have almost lost my life to make a better one for them, to entertain them....i actually want to cry for him because i know that would hurt my feeling if i have to live the way he lived and when i go to tell my story people dont give 2 fucks about it.
"..if you cant tell us how you know this info or who you are then dont say anything..."
so you want micheal to sign on as himself and tell us everything <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> and your going to believe that its actually him <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> why does the person who is telling us this information have to give us a name? THE EVIDENCE SPEAKS FOR ITS SELF...use logic and you can see what adds up and what does not example: mike nor his family has said that he is alive YET we used logic to realize he was! so why not do the same with the information that is given and not worry about who it is? and by the way LOGIC will tell you who S.T.U.D.Y is if you think which brings me to....
1) who is to say that we are not listening? we have our own ways of paying attention, but in the end, we all HEAR, SEE, FEEL Michael's message. but it does not mean we have to agree with the whole TIAI situation. Yes, Michael can use the internet to get his message across. BUT I doubt he would agree to a website 3589752 redirections of someone's theory. we need to hear from Michael HIMSELF when he returns, if he does.
2) none of us mentioned that Michael should sign on. why do we praise the internet so much? that is why we hope Michael will come out himself, some way more effective than the internet because not everyone has internet connection, nor computer access. Michael is much smarter. he will know how & what to make it effective for the WHOLE WORLD to be aware of.
AMEN AMEN and AMEN, you said exactly what was on my mind!
Everyone needs to watch their language...there are children on this board!! If you feel the need to curse, you don't have to write out the whole word, you can use things like this *** and it still gets your point across. Please go back and edit your posts.
I agree-where is all the hostility and appalling language coming from? Apart from the fact that I find this language offensive I have an 11 year old Niece who looks at this forum every day and we do have young members. If your points you need to get across are in your mind very strong you should not need to emphasise them with bad language. Language and words can be used so very effectively to spread word and get messages across to masses but not if used so appallingly.
:? MAYBE I AM CONFUSED YET AGAIN BUT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHO STUDY IS THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR ENOUGH IS THAT NOT THE POINT OR DO I NEED TO RETURN TO MY CELL AND NEVER BE SEEN AGAIN <!-- s --><!-- s --> HI STUDY I KIND OF GET YOU <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
I agree...I don't think it matters either...but I did point that out since people were questioning it. Just like study said let the evidence speak for its self....
Hell, he is probably rotting in a coffin at this very moment. .
im going to ignore everything that you stated except for this..why the fuck are you here? your hella negative and you think he is dead? seriously why do you sign up for every jackson site just to say shit like this and call people retards?
I also agree, Misha. That was way out of line, Bcorn. You need to chill. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
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I agree with Misha & Stranger In Chi- Town!! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
BCorn was once a believer that Michael is or could be alive, just like we are. All of a sudden, BCorn decides that Michael's dead and now their being down right nasty, rude, disrespectful & calling people names! <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> There's no need for any of that behavior. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> We're here for Michael and to find the truth to what happened to him, not to fight and be nasty with one another. Yes, he could be dead, yes, he could be alive. We'll know the answer to our question when and if the truth prevails.
BCorns behavior makes me wonder if they ever believed that Michael is or could be alive & what their motive is. People who truly believed that Michael is or could be alive and change their minds would not act the way they are. Is BCorns motive to put people down for their beliefs? I think they need to take a chill pill and stop coming on the forum if our opinions are going to make them act this way towards us. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
Good point!! I have been trying to explain that to people as well. The point is not when or where or even if he does come back...the point is IT'S TIME FOR US TO WAKE UP AND SEE THINGS FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE! We need to step away from the TV, magazines, tabloids, mainstream media, and do the research. Lets say that MJ really did die and we had solid proof that he did, and someone was spreading this message in the exact same way...how many people would actually be paying attention?
I have been a HUGE fan since I was a kid, I would love to see him come back, but I also have my kids to think about and the reality is, even if he doesn't come back, the issues in our world are still going to be there. I refuse to stand here with my eyes, ears, and mouth shut and watch my kids future go down the drain!! It's time to wake up people, and we need to do it NOW!
very well said! agree with you totally!
people, it' time to wake up!
i say this because i care!
it's time to wake up NOW!!
Yes i get that but what i am actually asking is WHY CHOOSE US?this small group of people that a lot of people think are crazy
Someone later said that it was our choice, but I'm not so sure. Frankly, I don't know how I got here. I've appreciated MJ for years, but never was a big 'fan,' although I have been investigating 'conspiracies' for quite some time. And most people DO think I'm crazy, so I appreciate this safe haven. Michael is the 'WAY' for sure, but this thread speaks more to the message, now that MJ is more an 'idea' than an 'idol.' As they said in V, you can't kill an 'idea.' Which is all to say, I appreciate the comments that originated this thread. Spot on. He's given everything to us and to the world. Now it's our destiny to give back in return.
ohhh!! But of course he will come back! There's no doubt about that!
He will come back for us! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
This is a Revolution of LOVE, and he IS our LIDER!!
Bcorn why so nasty it is not needed people are here because they care and the news did not add up at all and they know that something is wrong and it is playing on their minds Michael has done so much for this world and people and they are worried about him and what has happened to him he has earn't our respect
i personally think when the kids go off the scene that will be our question's answerd.. THERE WITH THEIR DADDY!! unless he makes an apperarence to us all.. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
we are all here for a reason.. each of us has our own.. everyone felt different about Michael in some way or another!! so IMO KEEP THE FAITH.. its all for L.O.V.E!! whatever the outcome maybe.. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
It's just a thought .., and is over the name that appears in the setificado of death and other legal documents of Michael, ... and if he left is Michael Joseph Jackson, the musician, dancer, singer, artist, .. and now he lives is a common American citizen named Michael Joe Jackson, I say this because I think that maybe is not going to return as the all concocted MJ
Unfortunately everything that happens in the U.S. in economic impact on almost everybody, and I'm glad I'm not bad happens to people in the U.S., this is the time to become aware, "for me, it still means something and we can be compatriots and contemporaries for all those who search for justice and beauty, were born where they were born and have short-lived if they have experienced," for that matter, the great army of love, understanding all the corruption that surrounds us and how to combat
I think it's maybe too soon to talk about a coming back. We are not 100% sure (only 99% <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> ) that he's still alive even if there are the evidences that show us the contrary. The big evidence has not yet come (maybe the T-Shirt). So talking about the coming back is premature. With the TIAI redirects, new doors have been opened and I'm sure some people would never have put these subjects in connection with Michael's death hoax or maybe were not even aware about these facts. Now the thing is to look deeper into these redirects because they show us important things. We cannot avoid them because it does not give us direct clues on Michael still being alive or not, coming back or not, when and how. I know that for us, the fans, it's important to know the truth about Michael's "death". We all want to know what really did happened to him. We love him it's normal and if a coming back is planned we will know it for sure we just have to be patient. Meanwhile the world is getting darker, we'd better try to find a light and concentrate on the information already given surrounding the hoax. It is really becoming a great adventure.
every one is worried about the wrong things, when is he coming back, is he watching us. the thing is, all that doesn't matter.
it doesn't matter who sent the message, what matters is if you the message.
this thing is bigger then Michael bigger then you and me.
inside of asking who this person is, why are they dong this, or when is Michael coming back. why are we not asking things like: what does this mean and how can we fix this problem before it get's out of hand.
i do believe that this is Michael talking to us, but even if it isn't him there is still a big problem. this NWO is going to efficet everyone and the only way to stop it is by starting right now.
we need to start talking about what we are going to do about this, don't wait on Michael, do it right now. this is our lives not his and even though he may be a sighn of hope when he does come back, he isn't going to be able to do anything by him self. that is the the point of TIAI, to help us see what is going on so that we can rise up and do what is right.
now this is something that Michael has said for a fact
I've Been A Victim Of A Selfish
Kind Of Love
we are being Selfish b/c all we ever talk about is when is he coming back (however not all of us some are trying to see the right way)
You Gotta Get It Right, While
You Got The Time
'Cause When You Close Your
Heart
You Can't Close Your . . .Your
Mind!
we don't have that much time and if we stay so focus on michael comeing back our hart will not be in to making this world a better place and then we will close our mind to the thing that we can do prier to his return.
I've Got To Make That Change,
Today!
.............. You've Got To
You've Got To Move! Come
On! Come On!
You Got To . . .
Stand Up! Stand Up!
Stand Up!
(Yeah-Make That Change)
Stand Up And Lift
Yourself, Now!
i thank that everyone needs to listen to the whole song man in the mirror.
We should all start sending money and L.O.V.E. to Haiti.
now that's a start does any one know were i can send my money to.
they need water,food and median, and money
if you don't have mony you can always send caned food from you cabinet. i know that i have food that i don't need
I just received the following email from a dear friend re: Haiti
The devastation on the gound in Haiti is truly horrifying. I strongly recommend that the best way to help is through Paul Farmer's organization Partners in Health. He is one of the saints of this world and he has a great organization. Just google "Paul Farmer Haiti" to read up.
I did google Paul Farmer and found this in an article today about the organization:
Partners in Health is one of the leading organizations bringing emergency relief to Haiti. It is a Boston-based nonprofit founded by Paul Farmer, one of the world's leading figures in the area of public health and international aid.
For a time Obama considered Farmer for director of the U.S. Agency for International Development, the arm of the State Department responsible for foreign aid.
Farmer's work in Haiti was chronicled in a book by Tracy Kidder, "Mountains Beyond Mountains," which showed that success is possible even in impoverished places like Haiti through true partnerships with the people. One hopes that the U.S. reconstruction effort in Haiti is guided by principles pioneered by Farmer.
There is much that can go wrong with international nation-building efforts, and nation-building is exactly what will have to happen in Haiti. Corruption and self-dealing can undermine the most well-intentioned international effort. So can donor nations who fashion solutions without involving those whom they seek to help.
The immediate need in Haiti is for rescue and relief for people trapped under rubble or cast into the streets without food, water or medical care. Partners in Health was already "leveraging" the efforts of 120 doctors and 500 nurses and appealing for more medical personnel, especially with knowledge of French or Haitian Creole.
The truth is that images that are watched on television, on the devastation of Haiti are really moving, nature strikes hardest at the poorest people.
I feel a combination of rage and pain when looking at these pictures and remember the history of this poor people, who between Invacion, coups and natural disasters could never get ahead.
Once more the large island in the Caribbean, Haiti, this suffering one of the worst tragedy in its history. The earthquake that rocked our brother people placed again in the great press political headlines. Haiti pain is a cumulative pain in time as debems settle morally and materially
That island to this ravaged by an earthquake of seven degrees, was until the end of the 18th century the wealthiest Caribbean under the yoke space of French colonialism where the Parisian elite essay laws as the black code administrator Colbert to regulate forced labour, prohibition of the mixture of races, promoted racism and the more serious, the extermination of Africans and their descendants with the forced labour of Sun Sun. This situation brought in 1791, in the Bay of Bois Caiman, pòximo to Port au Prince a priestess of spirituality Vudu surrounded by extraordinary Maroons as Boukman, invoked the ancestors to start the great rebellion that would have targeted delete the pans of human hell expressed in the pans of sugar plantations where almost half million children, women and men were being exploited. Thus begins a major rebellion that ends thirteen years later with the triumph of the Haitian revolution that acabò with the slave, the colonial slave system and proposed a different model American and French independence model.
When we say that the independence of Venezuela was born in Haiti, we are reaffirming that without Haiti to Venezuela
you would have been nearly impossible to achieve independence. Venezuela was supported morale, military, material, economic and humanely by the honorable Haitian people, only a change of freedom of the enslaved to gemian under the yoke of slavery.
This gesture in this tragedy there Haiti should be remembered. Haiti was later invaded in successive opportunities by us in complicity with the Duvalier dictatorship and the subsequent coup against President elected freely Beltrand Aristide in 2004 when that country following its 200 years of independence
Everyone should organizarce in their workplace, home and work with Haiti.
At work we're organized and we are all working together, also in the building where I live, is not so hard, the poorest country in the Americas we need.
Comments
AMEN AMEN and AMEN, you said exactly what was on my mind!
Thanks souza and mo
I agree with Misha & Stranger In Chi- Town!! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
BCorn was once a believer that Michael is or could be alive, just like we are. All of a sudden, BCorn decides that Michael's dead and now their being down right nasty, rude, disrespectful & calling people names! <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> There's no need for any of that behavior. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> We're here for Michael and to find the truth to what happened to him, not to fight and be nasty with one another. Yes, he could be dead, yes, he could be alive. We'll know the answer to our question when and if the truth prevails.
BCorns behavior makes me wonder if they ever believed that Michael is or could be alive & what their motive is. People who truly believed that Michael is or could be alive and change their minds would not act the way they are. Is BCorns motive to put people down for their beliefs? I think they need to take a chill pill and stop coming on the forum if our opinions are going to make them act this way towards us. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
people, it' time to wake up!
i say this because i care!
it's time to wake up NOW!!
we think alike, as we already know <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
thank you for writing it down so well!
Someone later said that it was our choice, but I'm not so sure. Frankly, I don't know how I got here. I've appreciated MJ for years, but never was a big 'fan,' although I have been investigating 'conspiracies' for quite some time. And most people DO think I'm crazy, so I appreciate this safe haven. Michael is the 'WAY' for sure, but this thread speaks more to the message, now that MJ is more an 'idea' than an 'idol.' As they said in V, you can't kill an 'idea.' Which is all to say, I appreciate the comments that originated this thread. Spot on. He's given everything to us and to the world. Now it's our destiny to give back in return.
Merry Christmas to everyone here!!!!
He will come back for us! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
This is a Revolution of LOVE, and he IS our LIDER!!
Keep The Faith!!!
LOVE
We fixed that problem.
we are all here for a reason.. each of us has our own.. everyone felt different about Michael in some way or another!! so IMO KEEP THE FAITH.. its all for L.O.V.E!! whatever the outcome maybe.. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Spread positive energy, it's contagious.
Thank you.
God Bless You
I love MJ
it doesn't matter who sent the message, what matters is if you the message.
this thing is bigger then Michael bigger then you and me.
inside of asking who this person is, why are they dong this, or when is Michael coming back. why are we not asking things like: what does this mean and how can we fix this problem before it get's out of hand.
i do believe that this is Michael talking to us, but even if it isn't him there is still a big problem. this NWO is going to efficet everyone and the only way to stop it is by starting right now.
we need to start talking about what we are going to do about this, don't wait on Michael, do it right now. this is our lives not his and even though he may be a sighn of hope when he does come back, he isn't going to be able to do anything by him self. that is the the point of TIAI, to help us see what is going on so that we can rise up and do what is right.
now this is something that Michael has said for a fact
I've Been A Victim Of A Selfish
Kind Of Love
we are being Selfish b/c all we ever talk about is when is he coming back (however not all of us some are trying to see the right way)
You Gotta Get It Right, While
You Got The Time
'Cause When You Close Your
Heart
You Can't Close Your . . .Your
Mind!
we don't have that much time and if we stay so focus on michael comeing back our hart will not be in to making this world a better place and then we will close our mind to the thing that we can do prier to his return.
I've Got To Make That Change,
Today!
..............
You've Got To
You've Got To Move! Come
On! Come On!
You Got To . . .
Stand Up! Stand Up!
Stand Up!
(Yeah-Make That Change)
Stand Up And Lift
Yourself, Now!
i thank that everyone needs to listen to the whole song man in the mirror.
now that's a start does any one know were i can send my money to.
they need water,food and median, and money
if you don't have mony you can always send caned food from you cabinet. i know that i have food that i don't need
The devastation on the gound in Haiti is truly horrifying. I strongly recommend that the best way to help is through Paul Farmer's organization Partners in Health. He is one of the saints of this world and he has a great organization. Just google "Paul Farmer Haiti" to read up.
I did google Paul Farmer and found this in an article today about the organization:
Partners in Health is one of the leading organizations bringing emergency relief to Haiti. It is a Boston-based nonprofit founded by Paul Farmer, one of the world's leading figures in the area of public health and international aid.
For a time Obama considered Farmer for director of the U.S. Agency for International Development, the arm of the State Department responsible for foreign aid.
Farmer's work in Haiti was chronicled in a book by Tracy Kidder, "Mountains Beyond Mountains," which showed that success is possible even in impoverished places like Haiti through true partnerships with the people. One hopes that the U.S. reconstruction effort in Haiti is guided by principles pioneered by Farmer.
There is much that can go wrong with international nation-building efforts, and nation-building is exactly what will have to happen in Haiti. Corruption and self-dealing can undermine the most well-intentioned international effort. So can donor nations who fashion solutions without involving those whom they seek to help.
The immediate need in Haiti is for rescue and relief for people trapped under rubble or cast into the streets without food, water or medical care. Partners in Health was already "leveraging" the efforts of 120 doctors and 500 nurses and appealing for more medical personnel, especially with knowledge of French or Haitian Creole.
Here's the link where there is a button for donations:
<!-- m -->http://www.pih.org/home.html<!-- m -->
I pledge $100. Anyone else care to pledge?
I feel a combination of rage and pain when looking at these pictures and remember the history of this poor people, who between Invacion, coups and natural disasters could never get ahead.
Once more the large island in the Caribbean, Haiti, this suffering one of the worst tragedy in its history. The earthquake that rocked our brother people placed again in the great press political headlines. Haiti pain is a cumulative pain in time as debems settle morally and materially
That island to this ravaged by an earthquake of seven degrees, was until the end of the 18th century the wealthiest Caribbean under the yoke space of French colonialism where the Parisian elite essay laws as the black code administrator Colbert to regulate forced labour, prohibition of the mixture of races, promoted racism and the more serious, the extermination of Africans and their descendants with the forced labour of Sun Sun. This situation brought in 1791, in the Bay of Bois Caiman, pòximo to Port au Prince a priestess of spirituality Vudu surrounded by extraordinary Maroons as Boukman, invoked the ancestors to start the great rebellion that would have targeted delete the pans of human hell expressed in the pans of sugar plantations where almost half million children, women and men were being exploited. Thus begins a major rebellion that ends thirteen years later with the triumph of the Haitian revolution that acabò with the slave, the colonial slave system and proposed a different model American and French independence model.
When we say that the independence of Venezuela was born in Haiti, we are reaffirming that without Haiti to Venezuela
you would have been nearly impossible to achieve independence. Venezuela was supported morale, military, material, economic and humanely by the honorable Haitian people, only a change of freedom of the enslaved to gemian under the yoke of slavery.
This gesture in this tragedy there Haiti should be remembered. Haiti was later invaded in successive opportunities by us in complicity with the Duvalier dictatorship and the subsequent coup against President elected freely Beltrand Aristide in 2004 when that country following its 200 years of independence
Everyone should organizarce in their workplace, home and work with Haiti.
At work we're organized and we are all working together, also in the building where I live, is not so hard, the poorest country in the Americas we need.